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==130:7. AT CARTHAGE—DISCOURSE ON TIME AND SPACE==
 
==130:7. AT CARTHAGE—DISCOURSE ON TIME AND SPACE==
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130:7.1 Most of the time en route to Carthage Jesus talked with his fellow travelers about things social, political, and commercial; hardly a word was said about religion. For the first time Gonod and Ganid discovered that Jesus was a good storyteller, and they kept him busy telling tales about his early life in Galilee. They also learned that he was reared in Galilee and not in either Jerusalem or Damascus.
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130:7.1 Most of the time en route to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthage Carthage] [[Jesus]] talked with his fellow travelers about things [[social]], [[political]], and [[commercial]]; hardly a [[word]] was said about [[religion]]. For the first time Gonod and Ganid [[discovered]] that Jesus was a good [[storyteller]], and they kept him busy telling tales about his early life in [[Galilee]]. They also learned that he was reared in [[Galilee]] and not in either [[Jerusalem]] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus Damascus].
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130:7.2 When Ganid inquired what one could do to make friends, having noticed that the majority of persons whom they chanced to meet were attracted to Jesus, his teacher said: " Become interested in your fellows; learn how to love them and watch for the opportunity to do something for them which you are sure they want done, " and then he quoted the olden Jewish proverb—" A man who would have friends must show himself friendly. "
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130:7.2 When Ganid [[inquired]] what one could do to make [[friends]], having noticed that the [[majority]] of [[persons]] whom they chanced to meet were [[attracted]] to Jesus, his teacher said: " Become interested in your fellows; [[learn]] how to [[love]] them and watch for the [[opportunity]] to do something for them which you are sure they want done, " and then he quoted the olden [http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/ajp/index.htm Jewish proverb]—" A man who would have [[friends]] must show himself friendly. "[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Book_of_Proverbs#Proverb_.18]
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130:7.3 At Carthage Jesus had a long and memorable talk with a Mithraic priest about immortality, about time and eternity. This Persian had been educated at Alexandria, and he really desired to learn from Jesus. Put into the words of today, in substance Jesus said in answer to his many questions:
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130:7.3 At [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthage Carthage] [[Jesus]] had a long and memorable talk with a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraism Mithraic priest] about [[immortality]], about [[time]] and [[eternity]]. This [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persia Persian] had been educated at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria Alexandria], and he really [[desired]] to learn from [[Jesus]]. Put into the [[words]] of today, in substance [[Jesus]] said in answer to his many questions:
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130:7.4 Time is the stream of flowing temporal events perceived by creature consciousness. Time is a name given to the succession-arrangement whereby events are recognized and segregated. The universe of space is a time-related phenomenon as it is viewed from any interior position outside of the fixed abode of Paradise. The motion of time is only revealed in relation to something which does not move in space as a time phenomenon. In the universe of universes Paradise and its Deities transcend both time and space. On the inhabited worlds, human personality (indwelt and oriented by the Paradise Father's spirit) is the only physically related reality which can transcend the material sequence of temporal events.
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130:7.4 [[Time]] is the [[stream]] of [[flowing]] [[temporal]] [[events]] [[perceived]] by [[creature]] [[consciousness]]. Time is a [[name]] given to the [[succession]]-arrangement whereby [[events]] are [[recognized]] and [[segregated]]. The [[universe]] of [[space]] is a time-related [[phenomenon]] as it is viewed from any interior position outside of the fixed abode of [[Paradise]]. The [[motion]] of [[time]] is only [[revealed]] in [[relation]] to something which does not move in [[space]] as a [[time]] [[phenomenon]]. In the [[universe of universes]] [[Paradise]] and its [[Deities]] [[transcend]] both [[time and space]]. On the [[inhabited worlds]], [[human]] [[personality]] (indwelt and [[oriented]] by the [[Paradise Father]]'s [[Thought Adjuster|spirit]]) is the only [[physically]] related [[reality]] which can [[transcend]] the [[material]] [[sequence]] of [[temporal]] [[events]].
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130:7.5 Animals do not sense time as does man, and even to man, because of his sectional and circumscribed view, time appears as a succession of events; but as man ascends, as he progresses inward, the enlarging view of this event procession is such that it is discerned more and more in its wholeness. That which formerly appeared as a succession of events then will be viewed as a whole and perfectly related cycle; in this way will circular simultaneity increasingly displace the onetime consciousness of the linear sequence of events.
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130:7.5 [[Animals]] do not [[sense]] time as does man, and even to man, because of his sectional and [[circumscribed]] view, time appears as a [[succession]] of [[events]]; but as man [[ascends]], as he [[progresses]] inward, the enlarging view of this [[event]] [[procession]] is such that it is discerned more and more in its [[wholeness]]. That which formerly appeared as a [[succession]] of events then will be viewed as a [[whole]] and perfectly related [[cycle]]; in this way will [[circular]] [[simultaneity]] increasingly displace the onetime [[consciousness]] of the [[linear]] [[sequence]] of [[events]].
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130:7.6 There are seven different conceptions of space as it is conditioned by time. Space is measured by time, not time by space. The confusion of the scientist grows out of failure to recognize the reality of space. Space is not merely an intellectual concept of the variation in relatedness of universe objects. Space is not empty, and the only thing man knows which can even partially transcend space is mind. Mind can function independently of the concept of the space-relatedness of material objects. Space is relatively and comparatively finite to all beings of creature status. The nearer consciousness approaches the awareness of seven cosmic dimensions, the more does the concept of potential space approach ultimacy. But the space potential is truly ultimate only on the absolute level.
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130:7.6 There are [[seven]] different [[conceptions]] of [[space]] as it is conditioned by [[time]]. Space is [[measured]] by time, not time by [[space]]. The [[confusion]] of the [[scientist]] grows out of failure to [[recognize]] the [[reality]] of space. Space is not merely an [[intellectual]] [[concept]] of the variation in [[relatedness]] of universe objects. [[Space]] is not empty, and the only thing man knows which can even partially [[transcend]] space is [[mind]]. Mind can [[function]] independently of the [[concept]] of the space-relatedness of [[material]] objects. Space is [[relatively]] and comparatively [[finite]] to all [[beings]] of [[creature]] [[status]]. The nearer [[consciousness]] approaches the awareness of [[seven]] [[cosmic]] [[dimensions]], the more does the [[concept]] of [[potential]] space approach [[ultimacy]]. But the space [[potential]] is truly ultimate only on the [[absolute]] level.
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130:7.7 It must be apparent that universal reality has an expanding and always relative meaning on the ascending and perfecting levels of the cosmos. Ultimately, surviving mortals achieve identity in a seven-dimensional universe.
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130:7.7 It must be apparent that [[universal]] [[reality]] has an expanding and always [[relative]] [[meaning]] on the [[ascending]] and perfecting levels of the [[cosmos]]. Ultimately, [[surviving]] [[mortals]] achieve [[identity]] in a [[Seven Superuniverses|seven-dimensional universe]].
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130:7.8 The time-space concept of a mind of material origin is destined to undergo successive enlargements as the conscious and conceiving personality ascends the levels of the universes. When man attains the mind intervening between the material and the spiritual planes of existence, his ideas of time-space will be enormously expanded both as to quality of perception and quantity of experience. The enlarging cosmic conceptions of an advancing spirit personality are due to augmentations of both depth of insight and scope of consciousness. And as personality passes on, upward and inward, to the transcendental levels of Deity-likeness, the time-space concept will increasingly approximate the timeless and spaceless concepts of the Absolutes. Relatively, and in accordance with transcendental attainment, these concepts of the absolute level are to be envisioned by the children of ultimate destiny.
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130:7.8 The [[time-space]] [[concept]] of a [[mind]] of [[material]] [[origin]] is destined to undergo [[successive]] enlargements as the [[conscious]] and conceiving [[personality]] ascends the levels of [[the universes]]. When man [[attains]] the [[mind]] intervening between the [[material]] and the [[spiritual]] [[planes]] of [[existence]], his ideas of [[time-space]] will be enormously expanded both as to [[quality]] of [[perception]] and [[quantity]] of [[experience]]. The enlarging [[cosmic]] [[conceptions]] of an advancing [[spirit]] [[personality]] are due to augmentations of both [[depth]] of [[insight]] and scope of [[consciousness]]. And as [[personality]] passes on, [[Ascension Career|upward and inward]], to the [[transcendental]] levels of [[Deity]]-likeness, the [[time-space]] concept will increasingly approximate the timeless and spaceless concepts of [[the Absolutes]]. Relatively, and in [[accordance]] with [[transcendental]] [[attainment]], these concepts of the [[absolute]] level are to be envisioned by the [[children]] of [[ultimate]] [[destiny]].
    
==130:8. ON THE WAY TO NAPLES AND ROME==
 
==130:8. ON THE WAY TO NAPLES AND ROME==

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