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'''Rob wrote: Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:34 PM'''

Does anyone have a thought about the reference to "Guardians of Wisdom on Paradise" in this lesson? For now, I have tagged it to [[27:5|Paper 27, Section 5]] on the ''Custodians of Knowledge''. Regardless,  I appreciate the emphasis in this lesson as well as the [[2014-09-14-N. Idaho TeaM|recent N. Idaho lesson]] upon how "revelation" depends upon human discovery, e.g.  a willingness to walk in the wilderness where there is no path.

'''Marty Greenhut wrote: Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:59 PM'''

The relationship between wisdom and knowledge is like that of husband and wife. A husband is not a husband without a wife
nor is knowledge living outside of wisdom.

'''Rob wrote: Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:12 PM'''

Thank you Marty! That's one way of putting it. However, I am more interested at the moment in whether anyone has an idea of what "Guardians of Wisdom on Paradise" refers to. For the moment, I have tagged it to ''Custodians of Knowledge'' given the lesson itself refers to scientific knowledge. Otherwise, your thought is much as mine that might lead me to tag it to ''[[Masters of Philosophy]]'', but I did not as the content of the lesson is focused more on "knowledge" than "wisdom". Regardless, the idea of "guarding" e.g. defending wisdom seems misplaced given what truly is needs no defenses and offers none as only illusions need them because of their intrinsic weakness. ([https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Chapter_22/acim#Weakness_and_Defensiveness 1]) Just another way of saying, the argumentative defense of any proposition is inversely proportional to the truth therein. ([https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=48:7_Morontia_Mota 2])

'''Marty wrote: Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 5:23 PM'''

Well Rob, These are my thoughts about your very interesting and challenging question. They are founded only in my gross ignorance and mortal limitations:

All realities are actually living (beings) as I understand creation. The Custodians of Knowledge are living libraries and most likely have their guardians just as do we here on Urantia. Wisdom certainly lives on Paradise as well and must also be accompanied by guardians.

The question of guardianship of realities on Paradise certainly exceeds our mortal understanding since we regard guardianship as needed in our imperfect setting. Yet, we are told that our destiny is that of infinite and eternal growth which indicates to me that perfection is an ongoing process even among those on Paradise.

Experiential life and freewill choice are the spiritual infrastructure of growth and creation. Even the guardians require Father's ultimate guidance.

'''Rob wrote:  Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 5:35 PM'''

Thanks again Marty! I am inclined to think the term "Guardians of Wisdom on Paradise" is used rather loosely in the lesson, but it does suggest the ''[[Primary Supernaphim]]'', who being perfect, need no guard.