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Among the many objections to Daniel Raphael's work are:

*1. He cites academic authority using a bogus Ph.D.
*2. His work parrots Neo Conservative US foreign policy. [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2013-08-31-New_Era_Conversations_7 NEC 7][http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2013-09-13-New_Era_Conversations_8 NEC 8] 
*3. He cites the Rothschild family as a model of social sustainability. [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2013-10-18-New_Era_Conversations_9#Lesson NEC 9]
*4. He has spiritual beings citing the amorality of their protocols.[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2014-04-25-New_Era_Conversations_20#Dialogue NEC 20]
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New Era Transition #47 – Social Evolution; Morality; Population Management; Mass Migrations – Sept. 10, 2018

 

Machiventa Melchizedek, Planetary Manager and Planetary Prince

 

Topics:

Main concern is social evolution

Teaching Mission was on personal spiritual growth and social responsibilities

Magisterial Mission – The Monjoronson Era

Implementation of Correcting Time programs

Progress being made

Disconnect from the media!

Associate with positive groups and individuals

Global access to technologies

Others are starting to ask questions and seeking answers

Is social morality now too soft?

Need for definition of personal versus societal morality and ethics

Is there a cycle between personal and social morality?

Reader’s questions on economy

Religion must evolve to form a functional religion

Implementation of the Transition Era

Has the Magisterial Mission started yet?

What criteria will trigger Monjoronson’s physical arrival?

Population management

Mass migrations

Closing

 

TR:  Daniel Raphael, PhD

 

Team members present:  Roxanne Andrews, Craig Carmichael, Stéphane Labonteé and Michael McCray

 

Invocation:  Roxie

 

September 10, 2018

 

Main concern is social evolution

 

MACHIVENTA:  Good morning, this is Machiventa Melchizedek, your Planetary Manager.  This is the Father’s great day; this is Christ Michael’s Era of awakening on Urantia.  We are so grateful for your presence to help make that announcement and to bring forth the elements that will help your world evolve.  Social evolution of every planet is a major concern; the first few stages of that are very slow to come about.  The learning curve of social evolution is almost a flat line for many thousands and sometimes hundreds of thousands of years.  It then begins to make its transition to the more evolved social maturity for personal responsibility and also societal responsibility and the further understanding of the division between personal and societal responsibilities.  That is an elemental factor in what develops after that. 

 

That means for the next stage to occur, there must become a consciousness of Planetary Management that “everybody is in this together,” that you individually have an effect on the whole, as much as the whole has an effect on you because you are one of the collective whole.  You have a tremendous power to change the collective whole into an evolved, more mature consciousness of the social responsibilities that you have.  When this is coupled with the spiritual evolution and consciousness of a planet where individuals realize that their own spiritual growth and maturity and evolution is involved in that of the planet and that this becomes a joint effort of the social evolution and the spiritual evolution working together to bring the planet into a wholeness of oneness that eventually leads to the Days of Light and Life.

 

Teaching Mission was on personal spiritual growth and social responsibilities

 

We have been with you for approximately 30 years.  We began with the awakening of the Presence in one who began to channel or TR and this was very startling to many hundreds of people in the Urantia community.  Soon there was an acceptance of this by some and it began to develop and then groups began to receive teachers.  Teachers brought you through the 2 year curriculum of classes for personal spiritual and social responsibilities and into the ethics and morality of spiritual and social living.  We have taken you through the evolution of groups on your planet and the sorting and sifting that each individual has done on their own.  We have not made or forced anyone to accept the decision to integrate with the larger functions of Planetary Management and to the Planetary Correcting program that Christ Michael has initiated.  This is an individual decision. 

 

Magisterial Mission – The Monjoronson Era

 

This time now in our conversations with this team and our audience is the acknowledgment that as another part of the Transition Era, that we mentioned some time ago with Monjoronson, when as I mentioned 2 weeks ago that we have entered into the Implementation Phase or program or mission of the work that has been done in the last 30 years.  In that regard I will continue to be with you every 2 weeks and bring you a short statement of conditions and situations around you and with us, and the progress that we are making.  This will be a brief statement usually, unless there is something significant to offer to you for your growth and for the awareness of your participation in the larger programs and projects that we have presented.  As always, you are welcome to ask questions—any and all questions.  We ask you, however, not to formulate questions to keep us busy, or you busy, or the TR busy. 

 

Implementation of Correcting Time programs

 

We have work that we must deal with that needs substantial time on our part.  It is one thing to prepare for implementation, but it is quite another to actually implement those programs, those ideas and concepts and actual procedures into projects that have that vision and intention, operating philosophy, mission and objectives.  That means that we—the collective “we,” the billions of us on this planet now who are working with you personally and collectively—will be very busy coordinating and bringing you individually into groups, and groups into your awareness.  This is how we will proceed; this is how we will implement the Correcting Time programs that have developed and evolved and which you will become more and more aware of in objective measurable terms.

 

It is not that these are presented to encourage your faith or your belief, or your hope that Christ Michael will come one day, or Monjoronson will come one day and save your planet from the grief that you have.  No, not at all!  It is simply the awareness and the acknowledgment that as in any corporation or organization that has a function to perform, that there is evidence that it is performing.  And so the implementation stage is that one stage where the evidence of our work will become much more evident to you who believe and who trust, and furthermore KNOW by your own personal experience that Christ Michael is here and that his work is here, and that spirit is afoot and working hard on your behalf and on the planet’s behalf.

 

If you have questions you are most welcome to bring them forward.

 

MMc:  Is there a way that you would like us to identify ourselves as being part of Christ Michael’s plan and part of the plan for the Planetary Management?

 

MACHIVENTA:  No, absolutely not; there is no need on our part for you to identify yourself as we know you already.  We already know of those individuals who do not even acknowledge us within themselves.  These are the people that we are urging forward to participate more actively in our work.

 

MMc:  My question has to do with identifying myself with the Planetary Management to another human being?

 

MACHIVENTA:  You are most welcome to do that if you wish.

 

Progress being made

 

Stéphane:  Thank you for your introduction.  My questions today are around the progress you mentioned that we have made progress, personal progress, and societal progress.  In the last sessions you have mentioned that the voltage has increased with Nebadonia, there is less crime to be noted in the cities, that these are being noticed at some level.  Can you expand on the progress we are making?  It is hard for us watching the media to see any progress as we seem to be completely fixated with politics, at least in the US and Canada at this point, and to monitor progress seems very hard for us to acknowledge.  Can you tell us more about progress being made?

 

Disconnect from the media!

 

MACHIVENTA:  Most certainly, and thank you for your question.  First of all, disconnect from the media!  The media is a report of other people’s opinions and other people’s observations and their comments and their conclusions and summations from other people’s actions, behaviors and words.  The more you retreat from the mass media, the more you will be able to recognize what is happening around you and you will also be able to recognize our work that is around you. 

 

Your own personal experience is the fundamental indicator or receiver for your input, that you can begin to discern in your contacts, both personal and business and in those associations that are not connected with your personal life, but that you become aware of in the world around you from personal conversations that you have with others, and from more reliable sources.  You have a way of knowing this from your own family, from the associates and associations of your spouse, children and grandchildren, neighbors and so on, you then can become an observer and observe developments and then ask questions of those people who are near and dear to you, and those whom you meet in the coffee houses, as you stand in line waiting for your drink, that you can comment on these things that are perhaps speculative; they may seem to be speculations on your part and shared with others so that you might have an input from them.  Rather than talking about the politics in the United States and Canada and elsewhere, you will be talking about the other things of those lives, those social connections which make or break the world around you. 

 

Associate with positive groups and individuals

 

Politics is something that the media likes to aggrandize because there are no immediate wars that affect them personally, or in their business of media publishing.  The emphasis that we have is upon the personal lives of individuals and as those individuals work with others in associations and in a network of groups.  We are observing the clustering of individuals into more concisely defined groups that have a defined purpose, and maybe not a mission yet, but they have a commonality which is friendly to them, and as you know we do not associate or support negative groups, those individuals who want to retard the social progress and evolution and maturity of a society, nation, community or family. 

 

We are interested in only the positive, the growth, and the progress of the maturity in social evolution.  You as an observer of your life around you then have begun to spread your consciousness to broader areas immediately around you as you extend them around your province, state, nation and to other nations.  You are in a particularly advantageous position because your connections are multi-national and you have associations with many.  You cannot necessarily be the initiator of conversations, but perhaps the commentator to provide an alternative perspective that others may comment on.  You have an astute intelligence about you to weigh and discern what is being said, to answer your own question.

 

Stéphane:  Thank you.  I think I can witness the progress personally.  I would view the experience I’ve had in my corporation that we promote behaviors to improve our effectiveness, and every 2 years these behavior models change and the staff is weary that these things keep changing all the time.  But what I proposed recently, and what I am proposing to discuss for a whole day session in 2 weeks time is that everything comes down to basic values and I brought up the 3 values of equality, growth and life of equality with someone, where I had not discussed this before and he was tremendously impressed by these, and the suggestion that we should follow through with this topic on the one day session that we have coming up in a couple of weeks.  So I think we are seeing a person grasping these as they are being discussed for the first time and to me that was very surprising.

 

MACHIVENTA:  Excellent!  That is an excellent example that you are seeing around you.  This is what we have asked you, and now we are asking others to see around themselves and that by presenting these points, these values it piques people’s curiosity and when you are able to tell them that these are fundamental to the human organism universally, that even piques their curiosity even more, and so you have begun a dialog that will expand and one which we have supported, are supporting and will continue to support for you personally and for those around you.  Thank you!

 

Global access to technologies

 

Stéphane:  Thank you.  My other question is around the collective whole.  With the advent of global technologies and communication today, I would think now, more than ever, we are able to impact the collective whole with much more effectiveness than ever in the earth’s history.  If you look back at the times of ancient Greece, etc., there were pockets of civilization but the collective whole could not be changed because of the lack of global communication.  Am I correct in this line of thinking?

 

MACHIVENTA:  Yes you are.  You must realize, however, that this technology is very new, global accessibility is less than 10 years old.  Now that this accessibility has now expanded to billions of individuals who have cell phones that consciousness is now coming into being.  Now, what is happening is if you look at this in the very large scale, macro-scale, you would be seeing that individuals are now once they begin to use the tech messages and it becomes staid and standard and boring that individuals will say, “Now what?  What’s out there?  Who’s like me?  Am I like other people and do we have a group?” and questions like that.  This is our opportunity to bring this together.  These technologies are very useful for us; it is not that we have initiated them, but they are a natural development of the human penchant for communication, for sharing ideas and so forth.  As you become aware and are aware, that people like to find commonality.  So after the newness of this technology wears off, and that its usefulness in organizations is obvious, those individuals in their personal lives will want to know who is out there. What is out there? And they become curious and that is when we step into place and have stepped into place, where we bring those commonalities together into the groupings and the clustering that we have mentioned before.

 

Stéphane:  Examples of that are the #MeToo movement and the 1% movements which would not have been in the millions without this global communication in play.  Correct?

 

 

 

 

Others are starting to ask questions and seeking answers

 

MACHIVENTA:  Exactly.  So, my friends, if you extend this further to us personally, us and you co-creatively, then there must be others out there asking, “Well, are there answers?  It is obvious that things are not going well—things in general terms are not going well in the world —and that there are groups of people who are going to bash each other and are bashing each other, and so what will happen when one gets a bigger club than the other, and they both begin to swing these very large clubs?  What can we do as peaceful people to help the world refrain from that?” 

 

And so, this kind of consciousness that I am suggesting is one that will come forward literally in the days and weeks ahead, and that this is a primary effort in our work in this year, 2018, and particularly as we move forward to 2020, and the latter part of that year.  This is a time of culmination; this is a time of bringing people together, and as I told This One within the last hour that the hour of opportunity is advancing to the point where this is most propitious, most opportune for us to take advantage of to spread the word of ethics, morality and particularly the values that sustain social groups.  We have been working almost feverishly, even for us, with This One to produce a new work which has a rather audacious title.  We will be sharing that with you within the next 2 weeks as our own form of publication.

 

Is social morality now too soft?

 

Stéphane:  Thank you.  I wait with baited breath!  I have another question:  You mentioned in the past, social evolution versus personal evolution, and social morality versus personal morality and ethics, and it seems to me that 100 years ago the social morality was more bold, was more willing to make bold moves to control or to sustain society versus its morality.  I don’t want to bring these apples here, but I think it’s a fair statement, it seems that in the 1960’s the human rights movement, the personal morality increased and forced social morality to bend over to the point where now I think social morality is now too soft; it allows too many things to happen in society that are not acceptable for its social development.  Would you agree with this trend?

 

MACHIVENTA:  Yes, I would, and I would like to comment if you will allow me.  The comment is this:  That what you saw during the 1800’s was the violent suppression of minorities, the destruction of indigenous people and their social structures.  The societal morality at that time was stronger and it continued its bad reputation into the early 1900’s and eventually with the violent suppression of minorities—black minorities, indigenous minorities and labor minorities.  When I speak of labor minorities, I mean labor unions, that there was abhorrent violence inflicted upon workers who had joined together.  That was a moral effort at moderating and ameliorating the violence of the overt and highly masculine societal morality that was used during those times.  It became evident as global consciousness in developed nations all around the world and in all nations, that this type of violent colonialism is abhorrent and that other forms of it as neo-colonialism through extraction of minerals in other countries, to that country’s disadvantages were also immoral and unethical. 

 

In that, you are right, that during the 50’s there was a time of repose for many people in Western civilization and elsewhere.  Then the 60’s developed with the Viet Nam War and the abhorrent violence of that conflict using advanced technologies for the destruction of many people.  As you know that was a very large club that was used almost indiscriminately against a nation, where there was very little direct interest in it for those aggressor nations.  Yes, there was the possibility of China moving out into the other regions to expand itself, which it now has a wonderful opportunity through economics and through trade, which it has exploited very competently.  You are correct in this trend, that now what has happened is that the power of the individual and of the excessive individualism of many Western democratic societies has exceeded its value as well. 

 

Need for definition of personal versus societal morality and ethics

 

There must come an acknowledgment, which we are supporting and promoting of the clear identification and definition of personal morality and ethics and societal morality and ethics and the differences, that societies, i.e. your governments, which are the acting agents of your societies, to become the supporters or the defenders of individual rights of freedom, and that through the moral assertiveness that it has the authority to suppress those elements which destroy the potential of individuals, families, communities and societies to mature and evolve.  We have spoken of social predators before; those social predators also entail individuals, groups of individuals, corporations and so on, that there is a predation upon the welfare of humankind by these larger groups, which is egregious and immoral.  It then takes an authority of a societal nature, meaning a national government, to then come forward with moral authority to suppress and in some cases destroy those organizations, and in some cases those individuals, who are egregiously predating upon the welfare of humankind.  I have taken your question to a large extreme, but the message is this: That there must be a clear identification and definition of personal morality and how that operates, and societal morality and how that operates, and what are the boundaries of both?

 

Is there a cycle between personal and social morality?

 

Stéphane:  And is there a cycle?  Are there times when personal morality is stronger than the social morality and back and forth?  Is that a cycle that occurs, or is it just something that has happened in the last 100 years that we are witnessing now?

 

MACHIVENTA:  It has a speck of it; it is a cycle, but it is a very large cycle.  It is a cycle of perhaps at least 50 years, if not larger.  This has been noted by some demographic historians who have seen these cycles.

 

[This is Daniel:  I’ve read a book on that:  Crash Course or something like that, but there is evidence of 70 year cycles.  I’ll just leave it at that.]

 

Yes, there are cycles, but it is necessary that these cycles cease, that in order to have these cycles stop there must come an absolute truth, an absolute set of values from which all people can rely upon for their moral and ethical decisions.  Those values also will serve the same purpose, but on a societal basis for governmental agencies and organizations.  There has never existed a permanent and enduring universal set of values for that.  Values have always been relevant to each cultural and ethnic and national group.  You will see and already know that these are interpreted values of the 7 fundamental values that are innate to people.  Interpreted values then cause a skewing where the interpretations can change and thus the beliefs that act out from those interpreted beliefs become changed as well.

 

If I may regress a bit to your group that every 2 years there are changes or the points that are important to the organization.  This is social change and this will be constant.  The staidness of historic organizations and governments in a word is historic, and that change will continue.  What you and others, and we hope for is that there is a maturing evolutionary progress in those changes.  This defines societies, cultures, nations that are growing and maturing in themselves, and they know how to govern themselves, both on a personal level and on a societal level.

 

MMc:  Machiventa, can you give us an example of the 2 year changes that we might see?

 

MACHIVENTA:  I am referring to the 2 year reviews that Stéphane’s organization uses to review their progress and the points that they need to work on.  This is not something that we are involved in directly.

 

MMc:  I see.

 

Reader’s questions on economy

 

Roxie:  If there are no more questions from the group, I have a few from our readers.

 

“What is the essence of a sustainable economy for a society that seeks social material sustainability?”

 

MACHIVENTA:  I would be glad to answer your question.  The essences of that attainment are moral and ethical population management policies among all the nations.

 

Roxie:  “How do the 7 core values work in creating a sustainable economy for an advanced society?”

 

MACHIVENTA:  The values themselves are not adequate to sustain an economically sustainable society.  There must be also a priority schema for decision making and there must be a morality and ethic in place that makes those decisions morally acceptable and ethically acceptable.  The primary values are sufficient to sustain a nation and society materially, but they are not sufficient to sustain social context of that nation or that society or communities.

 

Roxie:  “What are the principles and philosophy of remuneration in an advanced society?”

 

MACHIVENTA:  It is not that we are dismissing your question; we want you to be aware that the future evolves from the decisions you make, both you in this generation and future generations, and that the form of remuneration will change as the needs of exchange change in an evolved and maturing economy and nation, and the generations that fill those ranks.  Your question will have to be answered if you perhaps return here as a celestial teacher to one day learn the answers to your questions.  In the meantime, while you are in the morontial realm, we advise you to take notice of the “newspaper” that comes from Urantia.

 

Roxie:  Thank you from our reader in Russia.

 

MMc:  One of the requirements of the Revelatory Commission is the development of a religion centered on the teachings of the Urantia Book. To my knowledge, this is not happening. I wonder if you would comment on whether we will see a separate religion based on the Urantia Book and the problems that will be encountered by anyone attempting to form such a religion?

 

Religion must evolve to form a functional religion

 

MACHIVENTA:  Thank you for your question.  First of all, to form a functional religion you need to have functional followers who believe in the tenets of that religion and in the sources of the authority of that religion and those tenets.  It is something that has not evolved yet.  You should not so much fear the religion as the individuals who come forward to think that they are the founders of that religion, that you have the beginnings of another David Koresh and those individuals who bring about those apocalyptic and utopian forms of survival and evolution according to some personality.  Those are the most dangerous elements of an evolving beginning religion.  You have many of these individuals who you see that have that potential and many of them have come forward with guns and so on, spraying public crowds with their ammunition, killing them in the name of some idea that they have within their head they have not shared with other people, and so they are expressing their own “religion” of their own personality.  This is a most dangerous element of every young, evolving society, of which Western civilization has many examples.  This is one of the reasons why the Correcting Time has come forward and this is why we are anxiously “drumming our fingers on the table” watching the slow movement of our progressive individuals work through the projects we have given them.  We are not impatient, but we sure are worrisome about your situation.

 

Stéphane:  Machiventa, if you look at the analogy of Jesus, it took several decades, if not 100+ years for religion to spring from that event.  I think today we would hopefully, with the communications in place, that we would be looking at a shorter cycle but definitely this is not something that happens overnight.  Right?

 

Implementation of the Transition Era

 

MACHIVENTA:  That is correct and let me add a comment.  The comment is this:  That you will see through the implementation phase of this Transition Era, that there will be more and more groupings, amalgamations, clustering of individuals and groups with similar aims.  The ones that we support, of course, are peaceful; those that seek to assist social maturity and social evolution.  As these develop there will be individuals who participate in those groups who are evolved and spiritually centered individuals who will someday be asked about the origins of their spirituality and how they came about it, and so on.  The Urantia Book of course is one of those stable elements much like the 7 values that are innate to humans that will not go away, that will not disappear and that it will be most difficult to be contested.  Yes, there are elements within The Urantia Book which have changed and will continue to change, but the foundation upon it is that Christ Michael is alive and well and that there is somebody who is in charge of this planet and they care for you.

 

Has the Magisterial Mission started yet?

 

Stéphane:  If we take this forward, then I ask you if the Magisterial Mission has started, yet, even though Monjoronson has not materialized?

 

MACHIVENTA:  Oh, most certainly!  The Magisterial Era has begun and it began with his revelation that he is here.  It is not necessary for him to be physically manifest on this planet for the Monjoronson Era to be noted and to be effective.  What you are seeing is the joint plans of Christ Michael and Monjoronson for the spiritual evolution of this planet.  The spiritual evolution does not begin until there is peace in the minds of the individuals where they feel safe—literally safe in their environment, socially, politically, economically—to be at peace with spiritual entities being around them, and that these spiritual entities are guiding the events, even though individuals have the personal liberty not to follow it.  Yes, the Era of Monjoronson, the Avonal Son, has begun and it is healthy and well and it has made good progress in the brief time that it has been in existence.

 

What criteria will trigger Monjoronson’s physical arrival?

 

Stéphane:  And for those who look for material signs, we await his coming.  What are the criteria that you can share with us that are used that would trigger his coming physically?  You mentioned the creation of several groups of peaceful common interest; you mentioned the ability to create a society where people are free to live peacefully and to accept spiritual presence peacefully.  Can you expand on what other criteria would have to be triggered before his material presence is made?

 

MACHIVENTA:  Most gladly.  Let me put it this way, and we have said this many times before, if Monjoronson would appear today is though a shepherd would appear in a pasture without any sheep.  That would be ridiculous, would it not?  And so, a leader must be able to have a group to lead, people who are willing to accept the fact that there is a leader, that there is some purpose in being led and that it affects them personally.  As you can see if you use that as a criteria to evaluate the progress of your civilization, your nations, your societies and communities and of the churches and in individuals, you see it is a long way away from happening, where he is more manifest.

 

There must in fact develop a broad potential following of Monjoronson to be existent in the world before his first appearance occurs.  This is many decades away.  In the meantime, my work, my job and the teams who work with me is to make the preparations for those groups of people to show up and to be receptive of this work and of Monjoronson’s presence and his leadership.  The Urantia Book is a primary element of that.  Second to that, there is the Teaching Mission, the transmissions and the continued sharing of these messages to individuals around the world.  There must be media of some form to help people come to awareness of what is happening around them, and so this is not a media event, this is a continuing presence that will go on well into the future for many, many centuries. 

 

The presence cannot come about in these groups until there is a message to be received, wisdom to be shared, and commonality among individuals who are willing to come together in groups and a seeking and yearning for something better in their lives that a leader could bring.  Many millions of people will be disappointed until he arrives.  That is unfortunate, but that is the evolutionary process that a planet must go through socially, politically, economically and otherwise, and spiritually.  The religions too must then come along to become more mature, they must evolve to accept this premier guidance, this primary guidance as the evidence of the source of the First Source and Center, that this is an authentic presentation, even though unseen of what is to come.

 

Stéphane:  Thank you.

 

MACHIVENTA:  In the good faith keeping of my opening statements, I would like to bring this session to a close unless there is some burning question that you wish to bring forward.  I will give you a moment to think about that.

 

Population management

 

Roxie:  I have one that I have held for a couple of sessions.  I really liked your statement about “population management,” rather than “population control,” which is perhaps more palatable to our people.  However, this is still a steep hill to climb for our present generation and possibly for several more generations.  Since overpopulation is the root of all our problems, is there any point in tackling this situation now in our schools and families, or should it wait until after the decimation?

 

MACHIVENTA:  Thank you for your question and your points are well made.  There must be the awareness made of the necessity of population management made to the broad masses of humankind.  We would not suggest that these be introduced to your social institutions as churches and schools.  This would be highly counterproductive; it would be invasive; it would be inappropriate ethically and morally.  This must be something that must dawn upon the minds of individuals as human consciousness becomes aware of this problem.  This problem will become increasingly evident with more and more mass human migrations. 

 

Mass migrations

 

The migrations that you have seen from Africa and the Middle East into Europe is just a small example of what is to come; there will be masses of people who will continue to move literally around the world as they access the means of transportation to do so.  There will be always those at the present who will be marauders who will take advantage of those who are migrating.  In the migrations to come, many thousands and tens-of-thousands will die in the process.  The world will slowly awaken to the fact that there are simply just too many people in the world for the world to support, or for social organizations to attend to.  The number of people that exist right now far exceeds the capability of all humanitarian organizations to sufficiently provide for.  It is another issue that has not been brought forward, but it is immoral for individuals who migrate and expect that their host nations, individuals and groups to support them.   This is an expectation which is unwanted and unexpected and immoral as it brings forward the same deploring, death-bringing difficulties that the migrants have escaped, that they will bring the same problems to their host nations and to those organized nations. 

 

There are many aspects of population management that are not in place now.  Among it there is no conscious moral responsibility of the individual as a participant in the egregious overpopulation of your world.  And further, there are no proactive measures by nations to offer population management, education, training and materials to individuals to maintain their population.  There must exist a consciousness of this symbiotic relationship between people as individuals and the social responsibilities and societal morality of governments and large organizations to assist individuals to participate actively in planetary management at the personal population management level.

 

This is abhorrent to many conservative people.  We say “people” because there are religions and individuals who hold the view that the sex you have with someone else is “none of my business; it’s your business,” yet on the other hand, the children that are begotten in ill-formed families or couplings becomes the moral responsibility of that government, of that society and you as an individual as a taxpayer. 

 

Another question that arises and has not been asked or answered yet, it is an aspect of humanitarianism that is involved between personal and societal morality, and we ask someone to bring that question forward in the next session.

 

Closing

 

In Closing, I wish you well.  Thank you for your astute, intuitive, competent and cogent questions.  These are complemental to the authority and to the resources of knowledge and wisdom that we have to share with you.  They are not superficial or superfluous; the questions have been an important part of our educational program to advise the masses of humankind around the world.  Even in the small numbers of readership and those that are here, our shared responsibilities include that you and we have to make a better world for your children, grandchildren and all future generations.  I wish you good day and please have a smile on your face to greet the sunshine.  Good day.

 

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