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*1. He cites academic authority using a bogus Ph.D.
*1. He cites academic authority using a bogus Ph.D.
*2. His work parrots [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism Neo Conservative] US foreign policy. [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2013-08-31-New_Era_Conversations_7 NEC 7][http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2013-09-13-New_Era_Conversations_8 NEC 8]
*2. His work parrots [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism Neo Conservative] US foreign policy. [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2013-08-31-New_Era_Conversations_7 NEC 7][https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2013-09-13-New_Era_Conversations_8 NEC 8]
*3. He cites the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family Rothschild family] as a model of social sustainability. [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2013-10-18-New_Era_Conversations_9#Lesson NEC 9]
*3. He cites the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family Rothschild family] as a model of social sustainability. [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2013-10-18-New_Era_Conversations_9#Lesson NEC 9]
*4. He has spiritual beings citing the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorality amorality] of their protocols.[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2014-04-25-New_Era_Conversations_20#Dialogue NEC 20]
*4. He has spiritual beings citing the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorality amorality] of their protocols.[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2014-04-25-New_Era_Conversations_20#Dialogue NEC 20]
*5. He cites the virtue of commercial [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence AI] to guide moral decisions.[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2018-12-18-New_Era_Transition_53 NET 53]
*5. He cites the virtue of commercial [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence AI] to guide moral decisions.[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2018-12-18-New_Era_Transition_53 NET 53]
==Content==
==Content==
This is a time of great hope; this is a time of great achieving. The events around you move so slowly that you have not seen them; they are just as visible as those values in you that are so self-evident once you begin to look for them. As your Planetary Manager, it is only because of you and through you and by you and with you that we will overcome the challenges with the hope that we have in our hearts and you have in your hearts. Good day.
This is a time of great hope; this is a time of great achieving. The events around you move so slowly that you have not seen them; they are just as visible as those values in you that are so self-evident once you begin to look for them. As your Planetary Manager, it is only because of you and through you and by you and with you that we will overcome the challenges with the hope that we have in our hearts and you have in your hearts. Good day.
==Comments==
==Comments 5/22/19==
1. "Politics is the expression of separation."
1. "Politics is the expression of separation."
Comment: It is amusing to think of mortals starting the Teaching Mission and Magisterial Mission. Nevertheless, these programs have been a global phenomenon since their inception and operate well outside the range of human control.
Comment: It is amusing to think of mortals starting the Teaching Mission and Magisterial Mission. Nevertheless, these programs have been a global phenomenon since their inception and operate well outside the range of human control.
3. ...that is the necessity of our thinking for bringing the Correcting Time forward to the whole planet; it is something that will be necessary for the world to survive.
3. ...that is the necessity of our thinking for bringing the Correcting Time forward to the whole planet; it is something that will be necessary for the world to survive.
Comment: The Correcting Time covers the entirety of this and a number of other planets. It operates well outside the range of any human control. Risk of survival is only for any who choose not to grow in the truth of Father’s love.
Comment: The Correcting Time covers the entirety of this and a number of other planets. It operates well outside the range of any human control. Risk of survival is only for any who choose not to grow in the truth of Father’s love.The apocalyptic thinking of "This One" is no different from all who have preceded him. Consider the following instruction form Malvantra.
You as mortals of the realm are inherently shortsighted and fear ridden. As a species, as a race, your tendencies are to look for the outside forces you yearn for to show themselves, to make themselves known, to make their presences undeniable and overwhelming to all. This is your double edged sword, for, while it would remove all doubt as to the significance of the unseen principles, it also carries with it great disharmony, dysfunction in its implementation.
I would challenge everyone, each of you, to not place any significant amount of your life energies in the arenas of cataclysmic changes or undeniable intervention from higher forces. You, indeed, have intervention from higher forces in your lives this very hour. This is your circumstance, these are your parameters of reality. I would encourage you to embrace these that are at your feet, that surround you, that are sent to uplift you. Refrain from the temptation to even inwardly seek such overt signs of outward domination.
The desire of your race to have all things either put right or destroyed has been with your race since the beginning. All of your ancestors have had a similar thought pattern run through their existence, the desire to be shown overwhelmingly and with force the right way and the fear that this force brings with it, the destruction of all that we have come to know. It is true that, if you truly live with God in your hearts, you will learn to loosen your expectations to allow for the reality to be embraced. This goes as well for this phenomenon of seeking outside intervention, of, indeed, hoping for outside intervention. - [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1997-11-02-Acting_With_The_Father%27s_Will#Intervention.2C_Catastrophism Malvantra]
4. We can understand why many people have become disenchanted and have come away from the Teaching Mission from reading these transcripts.
4. We can understand why many people have become disenchanted and have come away from the Teaching Mission from reading these transcripts.
Comment: Many have no use for the flattery so prevalent in this document as it is unbecoming given its association with insincerity and self-deception. --rdavis 03:00, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Comment: Many have no use for the flattery so prevalent in this document as it is unbecoming given its association with insincerity and self-deception. --rdavis 03:00, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
*'''Roxanne Andrews replied 11:10amMT'''
Dear Rob,
I have no quarrel with what your have said, nor with the quotations you used. Monjoronson and Machiventa have both expressed the same many times in their own words.
Your last comment, however shows your lack of understanding of why those comments about their mortal partners was said. They have every right to show their appreciation for the co-creative work that is going on and their wish that it continue. I assure you that none of us is getting a "big head" over the comments, but it is an incentive to "stay the course" as they often ask us to do.
Nor are any of us obsessed or fearful over the calamities, only if there is anything we might do to alleviate fear in others, as has been expressed in conversations between the students and [[Machiventa]] or [[Monjoronson]]. As they warned us several years ago, the calamities have already begun, as noted in the tsunami in Java in 2004 and in Japan, floods from increased hurricanes and cyclones, increase in weather phenomena in the US, more tornadoes, droughts, etc. These are all recognized by the scientists as an increase of global warming, so why not make it known to the readers of our transcripts? Truth and knowledge decreases fear in those who are thinkers, which is what most of our readers are. We speak to an audience well grounded in faith and each has a trusty TA and the Spirit of Truth that we know will guide them.
Peace and joy,
Roxanne
*'''Rob replied May 23, 8:27pm'''
Hello Roxanne!
It is good to hear from you, and thank you for sharing your thoughts.
IF you have no quarrel with my first three points, it would seem you might have some questions about the source of the expressions I commented upon. The recognition of "co-creative" endeavors does not seem to justify statements contradicting known facts. However, expression of appreciation for work undertaken is a sign of a healthy relationship, but the use of capital letters as in "This One" for the reference to Daniel suggests disproportionate regard for any TR either by the transcriptionist or the group itself. Yes, calamities are well underway, something scientists have warned of for decades. It is exciting to be alive knowing these are but harbingers of a new world being born from within us.
Gratefully,
Rob
*'''Roxanne replied 8/24 1:23pm'''
Hi Robert,
The capitalization of "This One" is at Monjoronson's request, not Daniel's or mine. In the beginning transcripts I didn't use capital letters. I don't remember the date when it was requested of me, but both [[Monjoronson]] and [[Machiventa]] often give me instructions on when they want quotation marks, periods, paragraphs or other specific punctuation used. Those can be found in the audio tapes which are saved, but not published.
The use of PhD after Daniel's name is also not of his request. I know that a very few of you do not like Daniel and do not respect his PhD, but I have checked into it and at the time Daniel was working on his advanced degrees, that school was licensed and registered. He did a doctoral thesis that was published and I have a copy of it. Now that he is publishing more books and papers directed by the celestial Melchizedeks that are directed to High schools and universities, they want his credentials documented.
After Warren's recent rant about Daniel's past history, I imagine you have other questions. If I can be of help in alleviating those misconceptions that Warren was trying to discredit Daniel with, I will be happy to answer them for you.
Peace and unity,
Roxanne
*'''Rob replied 5/26 10:05amMT'''
Thank you Roxanne for this explanation as it clarifies the situation! Daniel's pattern of reliance upon extrinsic authority underscores the need for correction in this world. The craven need for outward association with human authority is the best indicator of a paucity of awareness of the value persons hold deep within them.
The time is long past on this planet when religion can be promulgated by asserting the authority of the teacher...it must be the teachings themselves and the effect they have on the students' lives, and not the claimed authority of their source that must be the final determinant in evaluating any religious teachings.-[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1992-01-00-Will#Session_23 Will]
*'''Roxanne replied 6/4 11:25am'''
Daniel is doing as he is directed by Christ Michael, Monjoronson and Machiventa as he is in constant contact with them as well as other Melchizedeks concerning his TRing, writing and publications. I know he has a well developed ego, but when he is working for the Triumvert, that ego is left in the corner. This is not an ego trip for Daniel, I can assure you and I know him a lot better than you do. Rather than criticizing and talking against other Light Workers in the Correcting Time, I suggest that you either support them or ignore them, but don't try to undermine their work as you and Warren often have done. It only shows your own inadequacies and need to work on introspection. Your use of flowery, obtuse language does not impress me (or others), nor does it make your head higher than anyone else's. Your work with Daynal serves a particular niche; our work serves a different one, as does each other group. Remember, we are all equal in the eyes of God.
What Will was saying in your quotation was very true, but does not apply to the work that Daniel is doing in the Magisterial portion of the Correcting Time. It is now time for the wisdom of the Melchizedeks to be available to the public, to be taught in the schools and universities, available for corporations, institutions, governments and economists. Though it will not be appreciated by many now, future generations will need this information to survive. Perhaps if you read our transcripts with an open mind and heart and turn off your super critical eye, you will understand what our group is being guided to do and why. It's all there in plain English, easy for all to understand.
I'm sorry if you feel that we are going in the wrong direction, but we are not in this life to please only you.
Onward toward Light and Life,
Roxanne
*'''Rob replied 6/4 6:57pmMT'''
Dear Roxanne,
I have no doubt you and Daniel are doing as you believe you are being directed by those you consider worthy of your devotion. As one that simply documents materials produced under the rubrics of the [[Correcting Time]], I am unconcerned with personalities. Should material present content I consider to be problematic, I will say so and welcome others to say what they think while documenting the same. Otherwise, that you consider “what Will was saying..was very true, but does not apply to..Daniel” is most telling given that you made the same argument of exceptionalism in the case of Ron Besser.
Gratefully,
Rob
*'''Chris Carmichael replied 1:38 AM'''
Hi Rob,
Thank you kindly for your invitation to comment. As a NOCO team
participant, who also makes a backup recording, I have for some time
wished I could add a comment or two under some of the transcripts.
The way your are doing it seems ideal - that it is clear they are not
part of the transcript or the session itself, but are "footnotes" to
it.
Daniel has been having allergies/hay fever and he himself thinks his
transmissions are not as clear as usual. Machiventa himself warned of
it as we started the last session yesterday (#64) and alluded also to
the previous session (#63), and reminded us that we should always use
our own discernment. And of course these long sessions are in general
tiring to Daniel.
And a couple of times on political questions I've asked I've thought
that Daniel's American bias/preconceptions probably badly distorted
the response. (I could of course be wrong.)
I have 2 notes on NET #63.
NET #63: While "North America" was what was said, of course it was
Asia that the Japanese wanted to conquer. That's what they were busily
doing. (I think Daniel, suffering hay fever, absently used the wrong
word. While celestial messages are obviously coming through the best
channellers relatively clearly, they are still concepts being phrased
into sentences by a conscious human, co-creatively.)
NET#63: A passage placed in italics in the transcript "This is
irrational to us." - was not emphasized by Machiventa. Indeed there
was a slight hesitation before the word "irrational" was used (as if
'for lack of a better word').
And here's another note... if the database is now easy to search...
because I can't remember the session number (NET#59,60,61?)... the
subject was microwave exposure. We were talking about the new "5G" and
it was (I believe) suggested we were approaching unsafe limits that
might come in "5.5G, 6G or 7G". This was edited to "5G, 6G or 7G" in
the transcript, but that is confusing because we already have "5G".
I know there are other notes I would like to have made, but they are
from farther back in the past and are not coming to mind at the
moment.
Again thanks,
Best,
Craig
*'''Rob replied 5/23 8:10pm'''
Hello Craig!
You're welcome as it is always helpful to discuss these materials. I am glad you approve of using the discussion pages (also called talk pages) for any comments. I can't help but think anyone reading either of these would more likely appreciate the fact that real human beings do think about these.
I am sorry to hear of Daniiel's physical difficulties. No doubt, the functionality of our bodies definitely influences the capacity of the mind to operate on any level, let alone on the higher levels of spirit interface. However, I am assured that when the real need is there to receive, spirit can break through any barriers.
Thanks for sharing your notes on a few lessons. Given your thoughts on the value of the discussion pages, am I correct that you might like to have your notes included in the respective pages? Regardless, it is good to hear from you, as sharing thoughts, often from different perspectives, only enhances understanding.
Gratefully,
Rob
==Comments 5/23/19==
'''Marty Greenhut replied 7:20amET'''
Rob, When I read this transcript I felt it was fraudulent and did not want to publish it in "The Harp of God Bulletins" but did so...wanting to talk to you about [[Daniel Raphael|Daniel]]'s transcripts. They will either be published without denial or unpublished as fraudulent. What is your thinking?
'''Rob replied 3:33pmMT'''
Hello Marty!
Thanks for asking! For quite a a while now, it seems that Daniel's transmissions have gone off the rails of self indulgent thinking. What is most telling to me is his use of "This One" in reference to him in the record. This typography suggests deity as referenced. It would seem then that he has followed [[Ron Besser]] who followed [https://gabrielofurantia.net Gabriel of Sedona] in offering the spiritual government is good example of what happens when contact and communication is attempted. I feel the value of an archive is to document the ebb and flow (rise and fall?) of any who would accept sincerely or not the offer to learn the lessons normally reserved for higher worlds in order to lift the world to a place where we could receive an [[Avonal Son]] without resentment and with some gratitude.
Gratefully,
Rob
==Comments 5/24/19==
*'''Craig replied 12:09amPT'''
Hi Rob,
Yes by all means please post my comments wherever you think well. That
hearing more perspectives broadens everyone's perspective is my view
as well, and it has been dawning on me that being on the NOCO sessions
has given me a rather unique one worth sharing.
Hay fever season will end.
I have occasionally noted recurrence by Machiventa to a subject for
clarification or subtle correction in a later session when the
previous answer seemed unclear or not quite in tune with something.
And in [[Michel Levasseur]]'s "Atmospheric Management" document I noted a
list of a bunch of polluting fossil fuels to stop burning, and wood
was in the list. Since we have burned wood since Andon and Fonta (and
I have burned wood most of my adult life for heat), I asked about
burning wood in a NET session without reference to Michel's document,
and was reassured that there was no objection to it being used for
heating homes and cooking. Michel probably just threw "wood" into his
list of "things we burn" without noticing it wasn't part of the
transmitted list. He also said something to the effect that stresses
on the atmosphere will lessen with the population drop, which sounded
less "apocalyptic" than in Michel's transmission.
What all that was about was to say that misconceptions and puzzles
created by the receiver, by ambiguity of language, or even by the
editor, can and do seem to get corrected or answered eventually, in a
quiet manner, if it's important.
After what I wrote to you yesterday, I've just now written to [[George
Barnard]] pointing out the same badly translated passage, and
volunteered to check over Michel's machine translated English in
future if there's no one who speaks more French than me available to
do it. He sent me so much material when we first connected I thought
I'd be overwhelmed if I volunteered to do so, but it's slowed to a
trickle.
Regards,
Craig
*'''Craig replied 3:20amPT'''
Hi Rob,
I suddenly remembered one of the sessions I especially wanted to make
notes on was for was [[2018-11-19-New Era Transition 51|NET #51]]. Roxie seemed to have misheard an unusual
number of things. I sent her a number of significant edits, but too
late for them to be included.
I typed out a number of notes of the most significant ones...
...but I started thinking it might just be better to send you an
entire revised transcript, as there are so many minor changes - words
missed or misheard - along with the more important ones. What do you
think? In fact, I'll attach it and you can look it over and do what
you like with it.
I can also send you a draft transcript showing areas for change with
colored background text by Roxie and by me, if that is of interest to
see what most of the changes are.
My notes are also below.
Cheers,
Craig
''Notes on [[2018-11-19-New Era Transition 51|NET #51]] by Craig''
Owing to circumstances this transcript had a few glitches - things
misheard. In the interests of clearing up any potential confusion, I
make these notes:
1. Under the heading "Self-sustainability of cities", "food" was in
the sentence.
...provision for its material FOOD source, energy, water treatment, and so on...
2. Under the heading "Not having power to control situations", the
recording was misheard.
Do you have highly influential people WHO HAVE THE EAR of those people
who are making those decisions... ?
3. Under the heading "Mental, spiritual and physical health and life span"
The second sentence of Stephane's question read: "Do we have with all
the recent discoveries, and the knowledge we have on many aspects of
our physical health, do we have enough to live much longer than we do
now?"
5. Under the heading "Can we be infused with more violet blood?", the
first sentence was:
My question is can the gaps from the less than perfect infusion of the
violet blood physically, can that be remedied or can that be filled
through genetic engineering?
==Comments 5/26/19==
*'''Rob replied 9:40amMT'''
Craig, thank you for your willingness to be part of discussion page. When I upload it, I will send you the link for review and/or revision if you feel it is needed, although all edits are recorded as part of the history as well.
Celestial beings can only transmit through TR’s what is already in their mind though they use the best that is available for augmentation. As such, I see the transmissions as no different from any literature except for their use of direct attribution to a discarnate source. The work remains to be read for its own merits without regard to attribution.
I am reminded of Abraham’s statement that “the time is long past on this planet when religion can be promulgated by asserting the authority of the teacher.” Not that Daniel is promulgating religion given his near exclusive focus on the outer world of material mechanics instead of the inner life of spiritual dynamics. (tardy note: it was [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1992-01-00-Will#Session_23 Will not Abraham])
*'''Craig replied 1:52 amPT'''
Thanks Rob!
I'll have a look when you send the link.
*'''Rob replied 3:18pmMT'''
Here you go Craig. This is the link to the talk page for NET63. If the contents are not showing when you go to the talk page, then click on show where the Contents (show) appears near the top.
