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*1. He cites academic authority using a bogus Ph.D.
*1. He cites academic authority using a bogus Ph.D.
*2. His work parrots [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism Neo Conservative] US foreign policy. [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2013-08-31-New_Era_Conversations_7 NEC 7][http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2013-09-13-New_Era_Conversations_8 NEC 8]
*2. His work parrots [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism Neo Conservative] US foreign policy. [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2013-08-31-New_Era_Conversations_7 NEC 7][https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2013-09-13-New_Era_Conversations_8 NEC 8]
*3. He cites the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family Rothschild family] as a model of social sustainability. [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2013-10-18-New_Era_Conversations_9#Lesson NEC 9]
*3. He cites the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family Rothschild family] as a model of social sustainability. [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2013-10-18-New_Era_Conversations_9#Lesson NEC 9]
*4. He has spiritual beings citing the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorality amorality] of their protocols.[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2014-04-25-New_Era_Conversations_20#Dialogue NEC 20]
*4. He has spiritual beings citing the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorality amorality] of their protocols.[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2014-04-25-New_Era_Conversations_20#Dialogue NEC 20]
*5. He cites the virtue of commercial [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence AI] to guide moral decisions.[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2018-12-18-New_Era_Transition_53 NET 53]
*5. He cites the virtue of commercial [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence AI] to guide moral decisions.[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2018-12-18-New_Era_Transition_53 NET 53]
==Content==
==Content==
I would challenge everyone, each of you, to not place any significant amount of your life energies in the arenas of cataclysmic changes or undeniable intervention from higher forces. You, indeed, have intervention from higher forces in your lives this very hour. This is your circumstance, these are your parameters of reality. I would encourage you to embrace these that are at your feet, that surround you, that are sent to uplift you. Refrain from the temptation to even inwardly seek such overt signs of outward domination.
I would challenge everyone, each of you, to not place any significant amount of your life energies in the arenas of cataclysmic changes or undeniable intervention from higher forces. You, indeed, have intervention from higher forces in your lives this very hour. This is your circumstance, these are your parameters of reality. I would encourage you to embrace these that are at your feet, that surround you, that are sent to uplift you. Refrain from the temptation to even inwardly seek such overt signs of outward domination.
The desire of your race to have all things either put right or destroyed has been with your race since the beginning. All of your ancestors have had a similar thought pattern run through their existence, the desire to be shown overwhelmingly and with force the right way and the fear that this force brings with it, the destruction of all that we have come to know. It is true that, if you truly live with God in your hearts, you will learn to loosen your expectations to allow for the reality to be embraced. This goes as well for this phenomenon of seeking outside intervention, of, indeed, hoping for outside intervention. - [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1997-11-02-Acting_With_The_Father%27s_Will#Intervention.2C_Catastrophism Malvantra]
The desire of your race to have all things either put right or destroyed has been with your race since the beginning. All of your ancestors have had a similar thought pattern run through their existence, the desire to be shown overwhelmingly and with force the right way and the fear that this force brings with it, the destruction of all that we have come to know. It is true that, if you truly live with God in your hearts, you will learn to loosen your expectations to allow for the reality to be embraced. This goes as well for this phenomenon of seeking outside intervention, of, indeed, hoping for outside intervention. - [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1997-11-02-Acting_With_The_Father%27s_Will#Intervention.2C_Catastrophism Malvantra]
4. We can understand why many people have become disenchanted and have come away from the Teaching Mission from reading these transcripts.
4. We can understand why many people have become disenchanted and have come away from the Teaching Mission from reading these transcripts.
IF you have no quarrel with my first three points, it would seem you might have some questions about the source of the expressions I commented upon. The recognition of "co-creative" endeavors does not seem to justify statements contradicting known facts. However, expression of appreciation for work undertaken is a sign of a healthy relationship, but the use of capital letters as in "This One" for the reference to Daniel suggests disproportionate regard for any TR either by the transcriptionist or the group itself. Yes, calamities are well underway, something scientists have warned of for decades. It is exciting to be alive knowing these are but harbingers of a new world being born from within us.
IF you have no quarrel with my first three points, it would seem you might have some questions about the source of the expressions I commented upon. The recognition of "co-creative" endeavors does not seem to justify statements contradicting known facts. However, expression of appreciation for work undertaken is a sign of a healthy relationship, but the use of capital letters as in "This One" for the reference to Daniel suggests disproportionate regard for any TR either by the transcriptionist or the group itself. Yes, calamities are well underway, something scientists have warned of for decades. It is exciting to be alive knowing these are but harbingers of a new world being born from within us.
Gratefully,
Rob
*'''Roxanne replied 8/24 1:23pm'''
Hi Robert,
The capitalization of "This One" is at Monjoronson's request, not Daniel's or mine. In the beginning transcripts I didn't use capital letters. I don't remember the date when it was requested of me, but both [[Monjoronson]] and [[Machiventa]] often give me instructions on when they want quotation marks, periods, paragraphs or other specific punctuation used. Those can be found in the audio tapes which are saved, but not published.
The use of PhD after Daniel's name is also not of his request. I know that a very few of you do not like Daniel and do not respect his PhD, but I have checked into it and at the time Daniel was working on his advanced degrees, that school was licensed and registered. He did a doctoral thesis that was published and I have a copy of it. Now that he is publishing more books and papers directed by the celestial Melchizedeks that are directed to High schools and universities, they want his credentials documented.
After Warren's recent rant about Daniel's past history, I imagine you have other questions. If I can be of help in alleviating those misconceptions that Warren was trying to discredit Daniel with, I will be happy to answer them for you.
Peace and unity,
Roxanne
*'''Rob replied 5/26 10:05amMT'''
Thank you Roxanne for this explanation as it clarifies the situation! Daniel's pattern of reliance upon extrinsic authority underscores the need for correction in this world. The craven need for outward association with human authority is the best indicator of a paucity of awareness of the value persons hold deep within them.
The time is long past on this planet when religion can be promulgated by asserting the authority of the teacher...it must be the teachings themselves and the effect they have on the students' lives, and not the claimed authority of their source that must be the final determinant in evaluating any religious teachings.-[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1992-01-00-Will#Session_23 Will]
*'''Roxanne replied 6/4 11:25am'''
Daniel is doing as he is directed by Christ Michael, Monjoronson and Machiventa as he is in constant contact with them as well as other Melchizedeks concerning his TRing, writing and publications. I know he has a well developed ego, but when he is working for the Triumvert, that ego is left in the corner. This is not an ego trip for Daniel, I can assure you and I know him a lot better than you do. Rather than criticizing and talking against other Light Workers in the Correcting Time, I suggest that you either support them or ignore them, but don't try to undermine their work as you and Warren often have done. It only shows your own inadequacies and need to work on introspection. Your use of flowery, obtuse language does not impress me (or others), nor does it make your head higher than anyone else's. Your work with Daynal serves a particular niche; our work serves a different one, as does each other group. Remember, we are all equal in the eyes of God.
What Will was saying in your quotation was very true, but does not apply to the work that Daniel is doing in the Magisterial portion of the Correcting Time. It is now time for the wisdom of the Melchizedeks to be available to the public, to be taught in the schools and universities, available for corporations, institutions, governments and economists. Though it will not be appreciated by many now, future generations will need this information to survive. Perhaps if you read our transcripts with an open mind and heart and turn off your super critical eye, you will understand what our group is being guided to do and why. It's all there in plain English, easy for all to understand.
I'm sorry if you feel that we are going in the wrong direction, but we are not in this life to please only you.
Onward toward Light and Life,
Roxanne
*'''Rob replied 6/4 6:57pmMT'''
Dear Roxanne,
I have no doubt you and Daniel are doing as you believe you are being directed by those you consider worthy of your devotion. As one that simply documents materials produced under the rubrics of the [[Correcting Time]], I am unconcerned with personalities. Should material present content I consider to be problematic, I will say so and welcome others to say what they think while documenting the same. Otherwise, that you consider “what Will was saying..was very true, but does not apply to..Daniel” is most telling given that you made the same argument of exceptionalism in the case of Ron Besser.
Gratefully,
Gratefully,
Craig
Craig
*'''Rob replied 5/23 8:10pm'''
Hello Craig!
You're welcome as it is always helpful to discuss these materials. I am glad you approve of using the discussion pages (also called talk pages) for any comments. I can't help but think anyone reading either of these would more likely appreciate the fact that real human beings do think about these.
'''Rob replied 3:33pmMT'''
I am sorry to hear of Daniiel's physical difficulties. No doubt, the functionality of our bodies definitely influences the capacity of the mind to operate on any level, let alone on the higher levels of spirit interface. However, I am assured that when the real need is there to receive, spirit can break through any barriers.
Thanks for sharing your notes on a few lessons. Given your thoughts on the value of the discussion pages, am I correct that you might like to have your notes included in the respective pages? Regardless, it is good to hear from you, as sharing thoughts, often from different perspectives, only enhances understanding.
Thanks for asking! For quite a a while now, it seems that Daniel's transmissions have gone off the rails of self indulgent thinking. What is most telling to me is his use of "This One" in reference to him in the record. This typography suggests deity as referenced. It would seem then that he has followed [[Ron Besser]] who followed [http://gabrielofurantia.net Gabriel of Sedona] in offering the spiritual government is good example of what happens when contact and communication is attempted. I feel the value of an archive is to document the ebb and flow (rise and fall?) of any who would accept sincerely or not the offer to learn the lessons normally reserved for higher worlds in order to lift the world to a place where we could receive an [[Avonal Son]] without resentment and with some gratitude.
Gratefully,
Gratefully,
Rob
Rob
==Comments 5/23/19==
'''Marty Greenhut replied 7:20amET'''
Rob, When I read this transcript I felt it was fraudulent and did not want to publish it in "The Harp of God Bulletins" but did so...wanting to talk to you about [[Daniel Raphael|Daniel]]'s transcripts. They will either be published without denial or unpublished as fraudulent. What is your thinking?
'''Rob replied 3:33pmMT'''
Hello Marty!
Thanks for sharing your notes on a few lessons. Given your thoughts on the value of the discussion pages, am I correct that you might like to have your notes included in the respective pages? Regardless, it is good to hear from you, as sharing thoughts, often from different perspectives, only enhances understanding.
Thanks for asking! For quite a a while now, it seems that Daniel's transmissions have gone off the rails of self indulgent thinking. What is most telling to me is his use of "This One" in reference to him in the record. This typography suggests deity as referenced. It would seem then that he has followed [[Ron Besser]] who followed [https://gabrielofurantia.net Gabriel of Sedona] in offering the spiritual government is good example of what happens when contact and communication is attempted. I feel the value of an archive is to document the ebb and flow (rise and fall?) of any who would accept sincerely or not the offer to learn the lessons normally reserved for higher worlds in order to lift the world to a place where we could receive an [[Avonal Son]] without resentment and with some gratitude.
Gratefully,
Gratefully,
Celestial beings can only transmit through TR’s what is already in their mind though they use the best that is available for augmentation. As such, I see the transmissions as no different from any literature except for their use of direct attribution to a discarnate source. The work remains to be read for its own merits without regard to attribution.
Celestial beings can only transmit through TR’s what is already in their mind though they use the best that is available for augmentation. As such, I see the transmissions as no different from any literature except for their use of direct attribution to a discarnate source. The work remains to be read for its own merits without regard to attribution.
I am reminded of Abraham’s statement that “the time is long past on this planet when religion can be promulgated by asserting the authority of the teacher.” Not that Daniel is promulgating religion given his near exclusive focus on the outer world of material mechanics instead of the inner life of spiritual dynamics. (tardy note: it was [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1992-01-00-Will#Session_23 Will not Abraham])
I am reminded of Abraham’s statement that “the time is long past on this planet when religion can be promulgated by asserting the authority of the teacher.” Not that Daniel is promulgating religion given his near exclusive focus on the outer world of material mechanics instead of the inner life of spiritual dynamics. (tardy note: it was [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1992-01-00-Will#Session_23 Will not Abraham])
*'''Craig replied 1:52 amPT'''
*'''Craig replied 1:52 amPT'''
