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After discovering Wikipedia featured only a sentence on [[Landon Garland]], I did some initial research and composed the article as it exists at the moment. As I am not that familiar with all the technical requirements for an ideal Wikipedia article, I wanted to register my interest in eliciting any input that others might have.

Daynal (talk) 02:57, 22 January 2008 (UTC) Thanks for uploading Image:Barnard telescope.jpg. You don't seem to have indicated the license status of the image. Wikipedia uses a set of image copyright tags to indicate this information; to add a tag to the image, select the appropriate tag from this list, click on this link, then click "Edit this page" and add the tag to the image's description. If there doesn't seem to be a suitable tag, the image is probably not appropriate for use on Wikipedia. For help in choosing the correct tag, or for any other questions, leave a message on Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. Thank you for your cooperation. --ImageTaggingBot (talk) 12:05, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

It would appear that it no longer is but a 'stub', however, I would like to see the article feature pertinent references and sections, but will wait until I conclude further research. Additionally, the categories under which the article is labelled seem to need adjustment if not supplementation. After studying the subject further, I will check back.

After discovering Wikipedia featured only a sentence on Landon Garland, I did some initial research and composed the article as it exists at the moment. As I am not that familiar with all the technical requirements for an ideal Wikipedia article, I wanted to register my interest in eliciting any input that others might have.

===License tagging for Image:Barnard telescope.jpg===

It would appear that it no longer is but a 'stub', however, I would like to see the article feature pertinent references and sections, but will wait until I conclude further research. Additionally, the categories under which the article is labelled seem to need adjustment if not supplementation. After studying the subject further, I will check back.

Daynal (talk) 02:57, 22 January 2008 (UTC) Thanks for uploading Image:Barnard telescope.jpg. You don't seem to have indicated the license status of the image. Wikipedia uses a set of image copyright tags to indicate this information; to add a tag to the image, select the appropriate tag from this list, click on this link, then click "Edit this page" and add the tag to the image's description. If there doesn't seem to be a suitable tag, the image is probably not appropriate for use on Wikipedia. For help in choosing the correct tag, or for any other questions, leave a message on Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. Thank you for your cooperation. --ImageTaggingBot (talk) 12:05, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

 

Daynal (talk) 20:09, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

===rue-the-Bots===

===rue-the-Bots===

--Daynal (talk) 22:32, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

--Daynal (talk) 22:32, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

What an honor to be 'banned' from Wikipedia for contributing the articles Landon Garland, Timothy Wyllie, and Daynal Institute Press. The first article was greeted with automated accusations of "vandalism", the second was judged as having an inappropriate 'tone", and the third was "deleted" without discussion due to "blatant advertising". As such, Wikipedia represents well a mechanistic culture by the sustained exhibition of a precipitous disinclination to dialogue where

What an honor to be 'banned' from Wikipedia for contributing the articles [[Landon Garland]], [[Timothy Wyllie]], and [[Daynal Institute Press]]. The first article was greeted with automated accusations of "vandalism", the second was judged as having an inappropriate 'tone", and the third was "deleted" without discussion due to "blatant advertising". As such, Wikipedia represents well a mechanistic culture by the sustained exhibition of a precipitous disinclination to dialogue where

--Rldavisiv (talk) 23:21, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

--Rldavisiv (talk) 23:21, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

After consultating with Wikipedia editors, I am compiling a list of third party citations to address the first objections posted against the merits of the article. As to 'tone', given no one has answered how such is defined, I will address that when it becomes more evident there is an policy statement making more vivid the intent of the reference to an "inappropriate tone".

After consulting with Wikipedia editors, I am compiling a list of third party citations to address the first objections posted against the merits of the article. As to 'tone', given no one has answered how such is defined, I will address that when it becomes more evident there is an policy statement making more vivid the intent of the reference to an "inappropriate tone".

Looking foward

Looking foward

Further comments are welcome.

Further comments are welcome.

It appears the only comments ensuing are those of pastordavid whose user page identifies his username representating the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America on Wikipedia. His comments on this article consist of accusations against it as Sockpuppetry. His talk page also cites that while "Wikipedia is not censored, his talk page is", and that any writing he considers to be 'obscene' i.e. 'vandalism', etc. "will be deleted". This together with the automated deletion of articles on Wikpedia, it seems best to provide a link to the original {uncensored?} article here.

It appears the only comments ensuing are those of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pastordavid pastordavid] whose user page identifies his username representating the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelical_Lutheran_Church_in_America Evangelical Lutheran Church in America] on Wikipedia. His comments on this article consist of accusations against it as Sockpuppetry. His talk page also cites that while "Wikipedia is not censored, his talk page is", and that any writing he considers to be 'obscene' i.e. 'vandalism', etc. "will be deleted". This together with the automated deletion of articles on Wikpedia, it seems best to provide a link to the original {uncensored?} article here.

Rob Davis (usernames Rldavisiv and Daynal)

Rob Davis (usernames Rldavisiv and Daynal)

===Policy Review===

===Policy Review===

Hello Anthony:

Hello Anthony:

Hello Andrew:

Hello Andrew:

After some consideration, I think it will be best for me to retain the username Daynal given that under such circumstances it will be blocked indefinitely accomplishing the purpose outlined above with Anthony. Otherwise, I will continue corresponding in venues appreciative of the constructive role writers' interests bring to bear upon the advancement of knowledge.

<u>After some consideration, I think it will be best for me to retain the username Daynal given that under such circumstances it will be blocked indefinitely accomplishing the purpose outlined above</u> with Anthony. Otherwise, I will continue corresponding in venues appreciative of the constructive role writers' interests bring to bear upon the advancement of knowledge.

Gratefully,

Gratefully,

After examining forty or so of the 'publishing company stubs' in a somewhat random sampling, it was clear that the exception(s) are those citing anything other than their own internal production. While conflict of interest is of concern in any undertaking at anytime, for 'conflict' to exist, there must be present two or more interests in opposition to at least one of the others that is commonplace in competitive settings of any kind, be they academic, commercial, ecclesiastical, or otherwise. Where all such interests share a common goal there can be no 'conflict of interest'. The only 'conflict' then is one always present in human evaluation(s) based as these are upon the 'perceived' merits of any given work.

After examining forty or so of the 'publishing company stubs' in a somewhat random sampling, it was clear that the exception(s) are those citing anything other than their own internal production. While conflict of interest is of concern in any undertaking at anytime, for 'conflict' to exist, there must be present two or more interests in opposition to at least one of the others that is commonplace in competitive settings of any kind, be they academic, commercial, ecclesiastical, or otherwise. Where all such interests share a common goal there can be no 'conflict of interest'. The only 'conflict' then is one always present in human evaluation(s) based as these are upon the 'perceived' merits of any given work.

For this reason, in view of the perceptions of questionable 'intent' behind this article, it appears best to withdraw interest in seeing any such stub or article on the Daynal Institute or its Press unless such may arise naturally from the general recognition of its work. It is just such work that is understood to be an organic process unfolding without the more familiar coercive pressures animating so much trade and academic writing that I know is the shared objective of Wikipedia and countless other initiatives that are germinating throughout this world all too hungry for the "genuine article".

For this reason, in view of the perceptions of questionable 'intent' behind this article, it appears best to withdraw interest in seeing any such stub or article on the [[Daynal Institute]] or its [[Daynal Institute Press|Press]] unless such may arise naturally from the general recognition of its work. It is just such work that is understood to be an organic process unfolding without the more familiar coercive pressures animating so much trade and academic writing that I know is the shared objective of Wikipedia and countless other initiatives that are germinating throughout this world all too hungry for the "genuine article".

Gratefully,

Gratefully,

(copies of this exchange will be archived for future reference) [here] --72.250.232.242 (talk) 18:38, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

(copies of this exchange will be archived for future reference) [here] --72.250.232.242 (talk) 18:38, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Daynal"

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Daynal"

Categories: Proposed deletion as of 30 April 2008 | All articles proposed for deletion | Wikipedian usernames editors have expressed concern over | Temporary Wikipedian userpages

Categories: Proposed deletion as of 30 April 2008 | All articles proposed for deletion | Wikipedian usernames editors have expressed concern over | Temporary Wikipedian userpages

==Moving forward==

==Moving forward==

It appears that the original editor of the article is no longer active here.  I'm going to try and salvage the article, or determine if it meets the deletion criteria. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paulbrock User:Paulbrock|Paulbrock] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Paulbrock User talk:Paulbrock|talk] 17:35, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

It appears that the original editor of the article is no longer active here.  I'm going to try and salvage the article, or determine if it meets the deletion criteria. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paulbrock User:Paulbrock|Paulbrock] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Paulbrock User talk:Paulbrock|talk] 17:35, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

The writer is watching with interest how Wikipedia 'salvages' articles given the Evangelical Lutheran Church's displeasure with the thought of this on Wikipedia.

The writer is watching with interest how Wikipedia 'salvages' articles given the Evangelical Lutheran Church's displeasure with the thought of this on Wikipedia.

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==Sockpuppetry Case==

==Sockpuppetry Case==

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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pastordavid User:Pastordavid|Pastordavid] ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pastordavid User talk:Pastordavid|talk]) 20:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pastordavid User:Pastordavid|Pastordavid] ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pastordavid/Archive_5#Daynal User talk:Pastordavid|talk]) 20:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

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Evidence

Evidence

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rldavisiv User:Rldavisiv] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rldavisiv&diff=207296558&oldid=207296170 responded] to a cluebot warning for blanking two articles by stating that he/she had started these articles.  Article histories ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Timothy_Wyllie&action=history here] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Landon_Garland&action=history here] show that both articles were begun by indef-blocked user Daynal, who is using his/her talkpage for a [[WP:SOAPBOX]] of one sort or another. [[User:Pastordavid|Pastordavid]] ([[User talk:Pastordavid|talk]]) 20:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rldavisiv User:Rldavisiv] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rldavisiv&diff=207296558&oldid=207296170 responded] to a cluebot warning for blanking two articles by stating that he/she had started these articles.  Article histories ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Timothy_Wyllie&action=history here] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Landon_Garland&action=history here] show that both articles were begun by indef-blocked user Daynal, who is using his/her talkpage for a [[WP:SOAPBOX]] of one sort or another. [[User:Pastordavid|Pastordavid]] ([[User talk:Pastordavid|talk]]) 20:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Comments

It is recommended that he or she provide links between the accounts.

It is recommended that he or she provide links between the accounts.

<center>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rldavisiv Sockpuppet]</center>

<center>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rldavisiv Sockpuppet]</center>

<center>This is a '[[sockpuppet]] account', however, the '[[hand]]' can easily be found [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Daynal here]</center>

<center>This is a '[[sockpuppet]] account', however, the '[[hand]]' can easily be found [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Daynal here]</center>

Blocked accordingly. _{[[User:Gb|GB]]}^{[[User talk:Gb|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Gb|C]]} 15:51, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Blocked accordingly. _{[[User:Gb|GB]]}^{[[User talk:Gb|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Gb|C]]} 15:51, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

<center>The [[justice]] that governs genuine [[public]] space is never administered by persons using fictitious 'usernames'.  [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Rob_Davis Rob Davis]</center>

<center>The [[justice]] that governs genuine [[public]] space is never administered by persons using fictitious 'usernames'.  [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Rob_Davis Rob Davis]</center>

==Pastordavid's dialogue==

 

==Pastordavid/ Daynal dialogue==

===Daynal===

===Daynal===

Dear Pastordavid,

Dear Pastordavid,

Would you find it more comfortable discussing here the public display of what is described as an 'archived' page where your charge of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Daynal Sockpuppetry] was sustained against [[user:Daynal]]? If the page should be really archived as was the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Timothy_Wyllie/Archive_1 'discussion'] of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Wyllie article] that apparently offended your personal beliefs, we can agree to let this 'lie'. Gratefully, Rob Davis --[[Special:Contributions/72.250.232.242|72.250.232.242]] ([[User talk:72.250.232.242|talk]]) 19:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Would you find it more comfortable discussing here the public display of what is described as an 'archived' page where your charge of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Daynal Sockpuppetry] was sustained against [[user:Daynal]]? If the page should be really archived as was the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Timothy_Wyllie/Archive_1 'discussion'] of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Wyllie article] that apparently offended your personal beliefs, we can agree to let this 'lie'. Gratefully, Rob Davis --[[Special:Contributions/72.250.232.242|72.250.232.242]] ([[User talk:72.250.232.242|talk]]) 19:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:Ah, you ascribe to me sensitivities that I am afraid I do not posses.  I am not offended in the least.  In fact, the SSP page is indeed archived just the same as the talk page in question - both are still viewable by the general public, as shown by your ability to view both of them.  Neither of them, however, has been [[WP:DELETE|deleted]].  You are welcome to persue deletion for them ... I would guess that asking at [[WP:MFD|misc. for deletion]] would be the right place.  I would not, however, expect the deletion of either to be likely.  And if you feel, as you continue to insinuate, my particular background produces an undue bias or conflict of interest in either my editing or my use of the administrative tools, you are encouraged to file a report either at [[WP:RFC|requests for comment on user behavior]] or at [[WP:ANI|the administrators' incident noticeboard]].  Thanks. [[User:Pastordavid|Pastordavid]] ([[User talk:Pastordavid#top|talk]]) 21:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:Ah, you ascribe to me sensitivities that I am afraid I do not posses.  I am not offended in the least.  In fact, the SSP page is indeed archived just the same as the talk page in question - both are still viewable by the general public, as shown by your ability to view both of them.  Neither of them, however, has been [[WP:DELETE|deleted]].  You are welcome to persue deletion for them ... I would guess that asking at [[WP:MFD|misc. for deletion]] would be the right place.  I would not, however, expect the deletion of either to be likely.  And if you feel, as you continue to insinuate, my particular background produces an undue bias or conflict of interest in either my editing or my use of the administrative tools, you are encouraged to file a report either at [[WP:RFC|requests for comment on user behavior]] or at [[WP:ANI|the administrators' incident noticeboard]].  Thanks. [[User:Pastordavid|Pastordavid]] ([[User talk:Pastordavid#top|talk]]) 21:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:::::Gladly! Genuine dialogue is well worth the wait and work.--[[Special:Contributions/74.223.63.66|74.223.63.66]] ([[User talk:74.223.63.66|talk]]) 21:31, 8 June 2008 (UTC) Rob

:::::Gladly! Genuine dialogue is well worth the wait and work.--[[Special:Contributions/74.223.63.66|74.223.63.66]] ([[User talk:74.223.63.66|talk]]) 21:31, 8 June 2008 (UTC) Rob

Rob, please have a look at [[User:Pastordavid/Daynal|this unblock proposal]].  Let me know if you are interested. [[User:Pastordavid|Pastordavid]] ([[User talk:Pastordavid#top|talk]]) 19:09, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Rob, please have a look at this [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Wikipedia_Daynal_talkpage#Unblock.3F unblock proposal].  Let me know if you are interested. [[User:Pastordavid|Pastordavid]] ([[User talk:Pastordavid#top|talk]]) 19:09, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

:Hello Pastordavid, Looks like a reasonable solution, but before we proceed, I would like to know a few things about Wikipedia that have been brought to mind by your original accusations using the term 'sockpuppet', once was a delightful term of endearing innocence, but now synonymous with deceptive practices of virtual sabotage on Wikipedia.

:Hello Pastordavid, Looks like a reasonable solution, but before we proceed, I would like to know a few things about Wikipedia that have been brought to mind by your original accusations using the term 'sockpuppet', once was a delightful term of endearing innocence, but now synonymous with deceptive practices of virtual sabotage on Wikipedia.

Greetings! How good it is to see opportunities to discuss issues of concern for all those concerned-virtually present together.

Greetings! How good it is to see opportunities to discuss issues of concern for all those concerned-virtually present together.

Until the charge of sockpuppetry was made against account [[user:Daynal]], I was content to use but this name only, and then only to prevent others from using it as I have a responsibility to and for the public use of this name by virtue of serving as admin to most domains operating with this name.  

Until the charge of sockpuppetry was made against account [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Daynal user:Daynal], I was content to use but this name only, and then only to prevent others from using it as I have a responsibility to and for the public use of this name by virtue of serving as admin to most domains operating with this name.  

My contributions (read by bots as vandalism) prior to sustaining the sockpuppetry charge stand on record for continued examination and revision. After consultation with CobaltBlueTony, the unblock procedure was implemented as per his instructions, but just before the sockpuppetry charge, it appeared to him "for some reason" the change was not processed as expected. Another editor, AndrewHowse, had suggested that I address the conflict of interest raised by the [[Timothy Wyllie]] article by editing the article under his oversight. By this point, such required an alternate account [[user:Rldavisiv]] to do so without working anonymously. To avoid misunderstanding, these were linked as per suggestions of Wikipedia policy. This apparently triggered the accusation of sockpuppetry by [[user:Pastordavid]] (quickly sustained) bringing to an immediate halt the implementation of any suggestions of these two editors.  

The articles I wrote, [[Landon Garland]] and [[Timothy Wyllie]] (read by bots as vandalism) prior to sustaining the sockpuppetry charge stand on record for continued examination and revision. After consultation with CobaltBlueTony, the unblock procedure was implemented as per his instructions, but just before the sockpuppetry charge, it appeared to him "for some reason" the change was not processed as expected. Another editor, AndrewHowse, had suggested that I address the conflict of interest raised by the [[Timothy Wyllie]] article by editing the article under his oversight. By this point, such required an alternate account [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rldavisiv user:Rldavisiv] to do so without working anonymously. To avoid misunderstanding, these were linked as per suggestions of Wikipedia policy. This apparently triggered the accusation of sockpuppetry by [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pastordavid user:Pastordavid] (quickly sustained) bringing to an immediate halt the implementation of any suggestions of these two editors.  

Further dialogue to address the situation has required the utilization of anonymous IP addresses, and traveling extensively finds the number of IP addresses uncountable for most tracking purposes.   

Further dialogue to address the situation has required the utilization of anonymous IP addresses, and traveling extensively finds the number of IP addresses uncountable for most tracking purposes.   

<u>'''replies''' to ''conditions'' and ''expectations'' above</u>:

 

 

 

<u>'''replies'''</u>:

#The process of mentoring was previously initiated, even if informally, but stopped by the sockpuppetry case.

#The process of mentoring was previously initiated, even if informally, but stopped by the sockpuppetry case.

#This editor desired but one account linked directly to his personal contact page to demonstrate transparency. Wikipedia, unwittingly, has required many anonymous accounts to begin any discussion e.g. "exchange of ideas".  

#This editor desired but one account linked directly to his personal contact page to demonstrate transparency.  

#This editor 'copied comments' to the personal talkpage to "centralize discussion" as per Wikipedia policy addressing confusion of a fragmented dialogue.

#This editor 'copied comments' to the personal talkpage to "centralize discussion" as per Wikipedia policy addressing confusion of a fragmented dialogue.

#The two articles written by this editor show discussion pages where requests were made to Wikipedia editors for their comments on the 'content'. The reply to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Landon_Garland first] was an automated accusation of vandalism, and the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Timothy_Wyllie/Archive_1 second] elicited only the Sockpuppetry charge from Pastordavid.

#After writing two articles, requests were made to Wikipedia editors for their comments on the 'content'. The reply to the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Landon_Garland first] was an automated accusation of vandalism, and the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Timothy_Wyllie/Archive_1 second] elicited only the Sockpuppetry charge from Pastordavid.

#This editor had [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Wikipedia_Daynal_talkpage#Policy_Review elected], after consulting with CobaltBlueTony, to retain username [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Daynal Daynal] to block it indefinitely.

#This editor had [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Wikipedia_Daynal_talkpage#Policy_Review elected], after consulting with CobaltBlueTony, to retain username [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Daynal Daynal] to block it indefinitely.

#This editor will no longer edit any articles unless requested given that all subjects of human inquiry are 'directly connected to his publishing company'.

#This editor will not edit Wikipedia articles unless requested given [https://www.press.daynal.org/about.html all subjects] of human inquiry are 'directly connected to his publishing company'.

#Further, given Wikipedia's preponderant interest in copy editing relative to writing , [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Rob_Davis Rob Davis] will not initiate  articles on Wikipedia.  

Gratefully,

Gratefully,

Hello Merzul, and thank you for your willingness to work with us through this process!

Hello Merzul, and thank you for your willingness to work with us through this process!

The last two points causing misunderstanding are replies to the expectations of CobaltBlueTony stipulating that I agree not to edit subjects directly connected to Daynal Institute Press that as per our [http://www.press.daynal.org/about.html purpose] necessarily includes all subject areas that would then seem to preclude my direct contributions to this particular wiki project. I am confident however, other methods may be found to avoid the appearance of any conflict of interest.

The last two points causing misunderstanding are replies to the expectations of CobaltBlueTony stipulating that I agree not to edit subjects directly connected to Daynal Institute Press that as per our [https://www.press.daynal.org/about.html purpose] necessarily includes all subject areas that preclude then my direct contributions to this particular wiki project.  

As for referencing 'myself'in the third person, it is my understanding Wikipedia prefers to limit first person pronouns to foster neutrality. Generally, the use of third person references seem appropriate usage when pointing to the 'account' at issue, while first person usage might be best reserved solely for the 'person' I am.

As for referencing myself' in the third person, it is my understanding Wikipedia prefers to limit first person pronouns to foster neutrality. However, the use of third person references seem appropriate when pointing to the 'account' at issue, while first person usage might be best reserved solely for the 'person' I am.

Gratefully,

Gratefully,

Rob--[[Special:Contributions/74.223.63.66|74.223.63.66]] ([[User talk:74.223.63.66|talk]]) 00:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Rob--[[Special:Contributions/12.172.30.9|12.172.30.9]] ([[User talk:12.172.30.9|talk]]) 22:56, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Gentlemen:

Gentlemen:

It appears I have come to an understanding of how 'special contributions' can be appropriate to my interest in blocking indefinitely any use of Daynal on Wikipedia and avoiding any further edits related to any "subject connected with Daynal Institute Press" i.e. all subjects of human inquiry.

It appears I have come to an understanding of how 'special contributions' can be appropriate to my interest in blocking indefinitely any use of Daynal on Wikipedia and avoiding any further edits related to any "subject connected with Daynal Institute Press" i.e. all subjects of human inquiry.

I will not initiate any articles on Wikipedia, and any future  'edits' will be done under my name [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Rob_Davis Rob Davis] using the 'special contributions allowance' and then only in response to a request for such by an editor working on an article in need of citations or other such evidence. Otherwise, my support for Wikipedia and its 'sister' sites will be by direct contributions to [[MediaWiki]], its use and ongoing development.  

I will not initiate any articles on Wikipedia, and any future  'edits' will be done under my name [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Rob_Davis Rob Davis] using the 'special contributions allowance' and then only in response to a request for such by an editor working on an article in need of citations or other such evidence. Otherwise, my support for Wikipedia and its 'sister' sites will be by direct contributions to [[MediaWiki]], its use and ongoing development.  

Gratefully,

Gratefully,

*[[Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Daynal]]

*[[Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Daynal]]

==Background material==

*[[Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Daynal]]

 

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