1987-10-22-Noting Positive Changes
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Topic: Noting Positive Changes
Group: New Zealand TeaM
Teacher: I am Abraham, I am your Teacher.
All Good evening; Abraham
Teacher: Greetings, Tommas, you may commence.
Tms. I am Tommas. You asked us to take note of any changes that we noticed. I've noticed that I have been more tolerant of people, situations at work this week. I've been quite calm and relaxed while others have been running round in circles,
Tms. It's very easy when several things have gone wrong, you can feel it starting to build up, so push it back and stay on top of it, I'm finding it quite easy.
Teacher: And you are remaining calm.
Teacher: Good, Filip?
Flp Yes, I er
Teacher: Introduce yourself.
"I am Filip.
Teacher: Thank you.
"I thought of that during the week, then come the time, I forgot, I think that I am going more back to how I felt quite a few lessons ago, where to be of calm, that's all I can think of at this stage.
Teacher: And it is of benefit for you
Teacher: Yes. You are of comfort?
"Yes, I am of comfort. Sometimes I'm not but then I think maybe I should be.
Yes, that's right.
Krd.I am Korde. On the Monday before I went to work, I scrubbed my hair, because I always feel, from the song, I'm gonna wash that man right outta my hair, and I went off to work with a more positive attitude and was very friendly towards the boss and have remained so all week and I've noticed a change in him, it might have been me that was the bear with the sore head. I feel though, as though I haven’t settled back from my trip, I still feel very cut in half.
Mid. I am Melda. I feel that I am coping with irritations better, something happened one day. I opened the door and found that there were two people there of a very definite religion, and the lady must have had her talk al! prepared, she was determined that I would make a decision as to whether I believed in the big bang creation or Darwin's theory of evolution and I was able to talk quite calmly and lovingly to her, which surprised me, because usually I've sort of thought, oh how can I get rid of this person, but it just did not matter, and I was able to say that I didn’t think it really mattered which theory you believed in, it was what was going on now, how you were living now that was important. Then she tried to get me to acknowledge that God was way up there!!! and I was a very lowly creature right down underneath everything, and I told her, that I thought God was within us, and I used the analogy of the rainbow and explained how the, physically the rainbow works, and God as the sun, who shone through us and that we were all the drops of the rainbow, and I found it was rather remarkable, there was a young man with her, who was very non-committal, in fact he didn’t say anything the whole time, and I noticed he just seemed to light up, and he seemed to sort of glow with interest as I began to speak, and I was able to thank her for loving me enough, to want to share her views about God, with me, and able to express to her that I was able to love her enough to express my views of God, with her. And I felt really good, and that's the first time that these people have come to the door and I have felt really good about it. I didn’t feel superior or anything like that.
Teacher: Yes. Understanding, yes Melda, yes, yes. Dominica.
Dom I am Dominica. I think I have been thinking more positively this last week and even on one occasion, using anger in a positive way and I felt a sense of achievement because there was somebody new at my Karate class, and I helped her quite a lot, and it was good to be able to pass on the knowledge.
Sin I am Selina. I'm quite pleased with my self this week because I have found a small amount of will power, something that I have always said I have nothing of, that I lacked it,, and this week, sweet biscuits, cake etc are my downfall, and I seem to get through quite a lot of biscuits a week, and with Ruby's advice, I have tried to cut them out this week, and from eating quite a few the week before (34 in 9 days) I've only had 2 this week, and I'm really pleased with my self for managing to do that.
Bjm - I am Benjamin. recently there was an incident with my son, his mother and myself, which could have been a very unpleasant one, but we all sat down and with tolerance & understanding really worked through something that could have been very difficult and we all ended up quite happy and respecting each others view points.
Mrt.I am Martinus. I think I have been rather fortunate that the people I have been mixing with over the weeks, the atmosphere is very good, very friendly, very loving, and I have been finding that I can sit down quietly more so through the week now and I seem to be reaching my higher self, I just say to my self, I am Martinus, and this seems to help quite a lot.
Mnd.I am Mondaa. I have been thinking of your words to delve within-side myself to find another good point and I feel that I'm glad that I have a friendly attitude and a happy disposition within my self, as I feel there is an awful lot of people that do not share this these days.
PtaI am Petta, and my work situation in the last week has been very good. My employer has been of a much kinder nature which has spread to the rest of us and I find that I am so much more calm in my self. When I have not very much work, I don't get up tight like I used to, I used to get so uptight that I'd get a headache and just about screaming, but now l find that I can almost go into the silence and let that time just ride by, so though he might be paying me for not doing something for a while, I'm more content and also in a family situation where I want to do my best for the members of the family that need help, and I find that I can do this quite well without tearing myself in half which it would be very easy to do and I believe that without getting; myself upset I am able to support each member and this gives me great satisfaction.
Teacher: Yes. Acceptance, Yes, Charlemont,
ChrI am Charlemont. I have had rather a bad week, with things, with pressure building up but I was very conscious last night when it peaked, of lying in bed & thinking of the finite & infinite and today it's washed away & I'm feeling on top of things again.
Teacher: Yes, Martinus, Mondaa, Petta, Charlemont, you have spoken of acceptance, of a part of your self. Another important lesson to be learned. Yes, Selina has spoken of commitment to self, another important lesson to be learned, so tolerance, acceptance, commitment. Yes, of importance. Then, you have queries.
"Well I had a dream recently where I seem to be in a long building, I believe it a stationary train, and the train seems to be packed with very many people, coloured people, I don't know if I am in India or Africa, and I want to do something about the toilet situation. I want to build three sided screens out on the flat lands, away from the train, so the people can go behind some kind of shelter for privacy, and because of the flies and the disease, but I don't know if anybody will take any notice of me, because I am a woman, and it's like one of my real dreams,
Teacher: One moment, This is not of significance,
Teacher: If it is indeed astral travel you would know, soul memory is not opened of necessity by dreams. The opening of soul memory is far greater than this. It is, I find words to describe for you, one moment. It is as the unfurling petals of a flower, so beautiful and unique. These are words to describe the opening of soul memory. It is a symbolic description.
"Yes, thank you Abraham.
‘Yes, I am.
Teacher: You have more queries
"I'm a grain of sand like every body else, and perhaps taller than I first thought, l come to these meetings feeling terribly humble, and I never used to think of myself as humble, before I came to these meetings, I used to think of myself as equal, if I ever thought about it at all., so I've decided to go back to my old way of thinking, and not to be so humble, and not to put my self down so much.
"The only other thing ]'d like to mention at this stage, when you said back in March, that when we said our soul names, that you "knew" something, and it's bothered me for 7 months, and I kept saying to Tommas, when we say our soul names, Abraham "knows" something, and I've been like a dog chasing my tail, I couldn’t find the answer, I couldn’t see what it was you knew, because I was happy being Selina, and you must have known that, so it was something more, and I was cross with myself for not seeing what it was you were trying to point out to us, and then I remembered that when I was very young, I asked my Mother why we has a belly button, and she told me it was where God poked me with his finger to see if I was ready to be born, and seeing I was ready, said, you are now called Wilma, and it was just a story to keep a child happy, but she was almost right, because now I realize that God has left his mark on my soul and called me Selina, and that's given me a lot of comfort. It's just another story, for me,
Teacher: For your understanding, yes.
Teacher: Correct. You have more queries
Tms I have a query on prayer. I have added to my prayers to cover different people that we have discussed before. People I normally wouldn’t bother with because I felt they didn’t deserve my prayers but now I realize that they probably need them more than others and I sometimes have trouble putting things into words, but I feel that the thought is there and is this cover O.K. and the fact that I haven’t really got the words right, but I know what I mean, I'm thinking what I mean.
"But the thoughts are there.
Teacher: Correct. It is serving it's purpose Tommas.
"I'm finding it a lot easier, I've been doing now for a couple of weeks to include these people and I just do it naturally now.
Chm I would like to bring up a subject which I know has been covered before. It is strange that Tommas should bring up the subject of power of thought, That is, I was reading some of the lessons again that we have been told by your self as well, thinking of a bad way of someone, is as bad as committing the act, and I've always found this rather hard, as I feel being on the physical plane, if you can stop at the thought level, and not carry on, into the physical level, I always thought that was reasonable understanding of the physical you, and I still find it hard to, understand the power of thought, and how thinking in a bad way of someone, is bad, and shouldn’t ever reach that point, and I've always had difficulty with that.
Teacher: Then this may assist. What is thought, but wavelength, carried in a physical manner, in the physical world, yes, electricity is physical yes, and a thought, although less harmful than a bodily attack, is still harmful if in negative, yes.
Chm Yes, I think why I thought of this was during feeling rather negative, I realized that these thoughts are of one's self, the inner self, the thought of anger was concentrating inwards, not outwards and this was the pain then, the physical meaning is alright.
Teacher: Yes. Thoughts retained within the mind cause jamming of the air waves, of the frequencies, causing your physical body to become taut, your aura to close it's self to your body, the only emanations from your body are stressed electric negative thought vibrations in confusion. You would agree therefore, repelling others, yes. This is clear for you?
Teacher: But of course, you see, confusion is of a strength yes, speak of confusion, what occurs when there is confusion? There is much noise, there is much movement, yes, and this is of a "strength" to overwhelm the calm,
Teacher: Correct. Perhaps that was part of Tuesday nights' lesson. Yes
Teacher: But of course, and this you may do, in a more concentrated, positive manner, because as you realize, when in confusion, you are not in control of your thoughts and your body, correct, yes, it is at random thought, yes, and you not only help your self in the calm, you help others also. This is clear for you
There are those sensitives who pick from the air waves thoughts, feelings, vibrations, and are as a sponge, and can draw these to them self. These persons I term sensitive should be on guard for their sake of this.
Chm When you are close to someone you love, we have talked of having; a similar vibration as with our name structure and that is when you tend to know the thoughts of the other person, we pick up the good or bad vibrations from the other person very easily.
Teacher: Intuition, correct. At times such as these, it is good to confer with your guidance, yes. You observe a young child, all they learn is through their senses, they touch, taste, everything they come into contact with, yes, they listen, they watch, yes, when speech arrives and is mastered, communication is through the mind and the voice box, yes. And young persons are often dis-encouraged for touching, tasting, yes.
Chm At this stage could you explain perhaps again, how you manage to through higher mind of Ruby & use her voice box, how you get to that point, where you are there is no speech as we know it of course, so you generate.....
Teacher: It is, Ruben's vibrations must raise it's self. It is joined with higher consciousness. The thought of Abraham over rides the thought of Reuben. Through this she is compelled to speak my thought. I am, as it were, in control, although she calls me at will, I do not intrude. This is clear for you? She has thoughts of her own, during our communication, they do not intrude. At times she, her consciousness is removed, often it is not, and she is aware of our communication, When consciousness is removed she is aware of communication in a much, differing manner. We converse, Reuben & I. Usually prior to my announcement of my presence, and at the conclusion of our appointment.
Teacher: I am understanding, hence my comment.
I would guard against such. There is little opportunity for such to occur. Do not have concern for Reuben If she should ever decide to discontinue communication with Abraham it would be her will, I should not intervene. This is clear for you? Then you have more queries, or you wish your refreshment?
Then enjoy, I shall return.
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Teacher: You have queries?,
Teacher: Higher consciousness.
"but still thought is part of your realm?
Teacher: On a much higher consciousness, yes.
"And our thought would be on a one level and yours would be on a multi dimensional levels?
"And would God, on an even higher plane still be God as thought on the highest level?
Teacher: You could say this. After all, we have established thought is electric energy wave lengths, God also is wavelengths vibrations, yes, of a higher frequency. Think of this may assist, you are in the material world, and matter, yes, God is not of this substance, yes it is perhaps clearer than physical and non-physical. This is clear for you? There are more queries
Tms Is there anyway, or any words that we can give to people that we work with who we see are getting flustered and maybe in a stressful situation at work because of the work load? I can say to my self, Be Calm, and I am Calm.
Chm Jesus said something about being an example is enough
Teacher: You see, I have said, explain the calm for them, in doing this, you shall speak perhaps of your experience of the calm, rather than telling them they should find the calm within them self and by your example, they may learn.
Sln I have a comment to make. I was talking to a stranger on the phone in the week, but he knows somebody that I know, and the lady had told him that I've been unwell recently, so the stranger asked after my health, and I told him that I have been a little bit better these last fey days, and he said he was glad to hear that, but that he would pray for me, and I was just so surprised by his statement. Partly he has never met me, we have never seen each other, and he was going to pray for me, and partly he was telling me, who is a stranger to him, that he believes in God, and I was just quite taken aback by this man just announcing over the telephone that he believed in God and that he would pray for me, and it's the sort of thing that I would have thought, that people that knew each other well, would tell each other about, but I hadn’t expected it from a stranger, and it pleased me that he said that, and I thought, well if he could confess to me that he believed in God, and knew God, perhaps it was time that I started telling others that I believe the same. Is it too soon for me to do that? What I mean by that is, I may not believe in God yet the way this man obviously did.
Teacher: Your belief is your belief, why take some other belief. Be confident in your own, you see a small word of caution, he at least advised you of his intention. You had the choice to refuse his prayers or to accept. Always be aware of this, I say this to all. You are understanding? You see, a person who is showered unexpectedly with prayer may have an adverse effect because of un-preparedness. Always remember to request YOUR GUIDANCE TO PREPARE THE PERSON YOU WISH TO PRAY FOR. It can be as harmful, I use this word advisedly, as negative thought. You are understanding? Because of the magnitude of the force of prayer when delivered to an un-prepared person may cause an over balance effect. This is clear for YOU? Do not be surprised when persons make known to you their belief, accept and all shall be well.
Krd Would it be the same if you were sending healing
Tms Why would there be rejection.
Teacher: Some persons do not wish for assistance. Maybe un-prepared to accept assistance. There is nothing guidance can do to alter this, but when transmitted guidance shall accept and transmit in a diffused manner perhaps. This is clear for you?
Mld .Is it sometimes people do not really want to be well, that they are using their illness for their own ends?
Teacher: Not as you would perceive it to be.
FlpYes. I think the physical is tired, Filip's not, but the physical is.
Teacher: Yes. You are foraging?
"I'm always foraging,
"I'm waiting for the time to come; it's obviously not the right time for me.
FIp I will thank you.
Sln Do you mean in the Urantia book?
Teacher: If it is your desire,
"Tommas would like to buy it. I have been reading your first black book again, because there is things in it that take on a different meaning for me a third time around, or things that perhaps did not make sense to me, or perhaps I did not take much notice of in the beginning, So I’ve been reading that this week, but I don't know if I am ready for the Urantia book.
Do not concern.
Flp It will come when the time is right. I have had it on order for 5-6 weeks and it's obviously not my time yet.
Sln I just about freaked out when Tony said he wanted to buy it.
Tms You wouldn’t sit & read the whole thing right through. I'd pick out bits. You wouldn’t read it from cover to cover.
Sln You gave me the choice, you said to me, shall we buy the book, so I said no. But then you said you thought you'd go ahead & buy it anyway, and just have it in the home for when you were ready to look things up, well I was more comfortable with that idea, having it sitting on a shelf somewhere.
Teacher: Do not be a feared, Selina, any of you, fear, as Martinus shall say perhaps, fear of a book, do not be so. Fear of anything, do not be so. Silence I am not content with. I do not give for you to receive if you have not given to receive. I cannot expand your mind, your perception, you are understanding? Without some little effort from each. You do this for your self, at your desire, I am unable to do this for you. Fear not.
Teacher: Fear of not understanding is a fear you should not keep to your self. In this fear of not understanding is a barrier so large, you shall inhibit your growth. I say this to all. Fear of making query, fear you may be repeating a query, fear you may be of embarrass, fear you may be ridiculed, inhibiting your growth. It is not good, but I cannot remove this for you. You do this for your self if you desire.
Bjm I found that I began to read the section on the life of Jesus and I found that to be really excellent because it went right through and as he became older it began to set out in words of our language the accurate things that he was saying and thinking, to people at that time and each one of those sayings is something, a real life help, and it covers every subject you could think about.
Teacher: You see that is your beginning of the book.
There may be another beginning for Tommas, and yet another for Filip etc etc where-ever it is of comfort for your beginning. I shall not speak of this at length, at this appointment, but I would say this, there is not enough comment, not enough querying, from any, your minds are not expanding as they should, for your desiring of growth. You have set foot on the path, you are hesitant yet. It is for you all to find the courage to place your footsteps firmly, knowing you walk with your Teacher. Chastisement, castigation, you may believe are my words, there is not anger in my words, a gentle or perhaps not so gentle nudge, for you to release your fears and speak your thought, yes. Speak our feelings and then you shall have understanding. Do not forget thoughtful, feeling, action leads to understanding, you may speak.
Chm I had an experience that has happened several times with our discussions, I found myself saying words, that either I didn’t want to say, or they were coming from my mouth and they seemed like they weren’t my words, and I'm now wondering; if that wasn’t a sort of a higher consciousness It's like listening to somebody else speak, and it's not always the things you want to say, we discussed it after you had left. I just felt by saying that someone in this room might just let go and just let thoughts and feelings just flow out of their mouth because we are working with verbal things at the moment and we have talked earlier of the vibration of the voice, arid I have often sat here with nothing to say whatsoever, no queries. We tend to think of queries as classroom questions, I think we have got to get over the barrier of the query, and put it perhaps into a thought, speaking the action of a thought, might make it easier for all of us. Sometimes a thought seems to be a minute speck of nothing, but once verbalised can be extremely important especially when the answer comes from you.
ChmYes I have also noticed on several occasions in the past that I have held back for those few moments, and Tommas has come out with a very similar query or question on that particular subject and I've often thought that's strange that it's happened. I'm sure there must be others in the room that must be having similar thoughts, but are not saying the thoughts; they are sitting on the thought for one reason or another.
Teacher: You see, I desire our communication to be of a discussion, with the thoughts spoken and freely given and received. This is for you to consider if you disagree, you may speak, do not be afraid to disagree.
Fip I don't disagree. I found that when we do have discussions, a few appointments ago, someone came up with a little question and it developed into a really good lesson, and it's good like that, but I don't know, tonight I'm not really awake.
"I will just say that things that Charlemont & Tommas have spoken about tonight have been of use to me, and the same again, I don't come to an appointment with a query written out. I wait until it's my turn and I say whatever comes through to me at the time, which is sometimes different to what I think.
Ohm I've tried both ways, and I use both methods, if I have a thought during; the week that I consider a useful thought from something I've read, I’ll scribble it down, and I also come to the table without, but I also have a flash thought that I just come out with, and I was explaining before, when it almost feels like a set-up when I am saying something, and I don't even agree with what I am saying, and wondering why I am saying it.
Teacher: But it is still of value.
Chm But it ends up as value for me.
Teacher: And for others.
Chm It's what we are
Flp I've sort of been into that for 10-15 years. You know, there are books on it that, I've used for years.
Chm This is a time when we should all be discussing things amongst ourselves like this. I foresee the future to be that this is how the lessons will be, we will be discussing, things, with Abraham eavesdropping, and checking us when perhaps we are going up the wrong way, wrong train of thought, rather than us coming to Abraham, to tell us what to think, and we've got it round the wrong way.
FlpYes I've felt this for a long time that some of the queries that people have come out with, we could answer amongst ourselves.
Chm I think that's what Abraham is wishing that we just sit around here discuss amongst ourselves, we haven’t come to church, for a minister to tell us how to behave tomorrow, we have come here to expand our thoughts and we have a guidance with us who will tell us if we are thinking wrong or right, and we are not doing this, any of us, really.
Sln Well I sort of feel that when you are with us, and we talk to you, I tend to join in more freely, if you are sitting back & listening, then I tend to sit back & listen to the others as well, I don't think I join in as much, if all the guys are talking amongst themselves.
SIn Well probably some body nearer your end of the room would disagree, and I'd just tend to let it go.
Teacher: Then is it something you would wish to attempt
"Well we have tried 3 different variations of getting these lessons going. We have had taking it in turns...
Teacher: Ah yes, I do not direct.
"There must be wisdom in this room from every one of us. Every one of us has a gift and wisdom and we are not sharing and that's sad, if someone is not allowing me their wisdom, then I am losing on this as much as anybody.
Fip Well what I was going to say was, how about any queries are not directed at Abraham, but directed to the group, and then we'll see what sort of answers we come up with, and then no doubt Abraham will correct us,
Tms To the floor,
Mld I think that is a good way. I've always felt that our queries should be directed to Abraham and that's inhibited me.
Chm It may stem from the fact that it may stem from our upbringing. School teachers and other teachers are to be looked on with awe, and you are told things, and it's almost wrong to challenge at times. Being told is enough. And this is subtlety different, vie are not just being told, we have to ask....
Sln Sometimes I am unsure of my feelings, sometimes I seem to feel one way, but other time the points of view have gone backwards forwards, I could have changed my mind several times, and in the end I'm uncertain all over again, I'm not sure who was right.
Then, I shall leave you with this;