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==Session==
 
==Session==
 
===Opening===
 
===Opening===
Iruka: The light of God enfolds you, the power of God encompasses you, wherever you are He is. Good evening I am Iruka, I am your teacher and your friend. I am happy to be here this evening. I am excited about this group coming together and learning and growing, and wanting to be like the Father, the First Source and Center. I am here to help you, to be a guide so that you may grow and become like the Father. I am also your friend. I know that this is a new phenomena, I am aware of your fear and that is OK. It is good to be cautious. It is good to seek the truth. So do not be afraid; we will take it one step at a time. Now I am aware of many questions, and I will be happy to try and answer them. Some questions if they are difficult, Pam may have trouble with. She is new at this, but she has trouble some times. However, both of us will do our best.
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Iruka: The [[light]] of [[God]] enfolds you, the [[power]] of God [[encompasses]] you, wherever you are He is. Good evening I am Iruka, I am your [[teacher]] and your [[friend]]. I am [[happy]] to be here this evening. I am [[excited]] about this group coming together and [[learning]] and [[growing]], and wanting to be like [[the Father]], the [[First Source and Center]]. I am here to help you, to be a [[guide]] so that you may [[grow]] and become like the Father. I am also your friend. I know that this is a new [[phenomena]], I am aware of your [[fear]] and that is OK. It is good to be [[cautious]]. It is good to seek the [[truth]]. So do not be afraid; we will take it one step at a time.  
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Now I am [[aware]] of many [[questions]], and I will be [[happy]] to try and answer them. Some questions if they are [[difficult]], Pam may have trouble with. She is new at this, but she has trouble some times. However, both of us will do our best.
 
===Dialogue===
 
===Dialogue===
E1: First of all I would like to welcome you and I am curious as to the two letters O and M is there any spiritual significance to "OM"?
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E1: First of all I would like to [[welcome]] you and I am [[curious]] as to the two letters O and M is there any spiritual significance to "OM"?
  
Iruka: Thank you for your welcome. OM or "OM" is used by certain middle-Eastern religions to help them clear out their mind when they meditate. If they believe it will clear their thoughts, then it does. You see the power of your mind is very strong, and it is a way to clear the thoughts, to slow them down and to quiet the mind. But your question is: does this have some magic or spiritual meaning -- not in that way, NO. Does this answer?
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Iruka: Thank you for your [[welcome]]. OM or "OM" is used by certain middle-Eastern [[religions]] to help them clear out their [[mind]] when they [[meditate]]. If they believe it will clear their thoughts, then it does. You see the [[power]] of your [[mind]] is very strong, and it is a way to clear the [[thoughts]], to slow them down and to quiet the mind. But your question is: does this have some [[magic]] or spiritual [[meaning]] -- not in that way, NO. Does this answer?
  
E1: I am not really sure, I was informed that it was referred to as a spiritual vibration, and I guess that is what I am trying to verify.
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E1: I am not really sure, I was informed that it was referred to as a spiritual [[vibration]], and I guess that is what I am trying to verify.
  
Iruka: Spiritual vibration, yes, somewhat, however its true power is that the mind believes it. Does this help?
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Iruka: Spiritual [[vibration]], yes, somewhat, however its true [[power]] is that the [[mind]] believes it. Does this help?
  
E1: Somewhat, let me put another question. Is there a spiritual or is there a vibration in the cosmos that can be heard and does it have a sound of "OM"
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E1: Somewhat, let me put another question. Is there a [[spiritual]] or is there a [[vibration]] in [[the cosmos]] that can be heard and does it have a [[sound]] of "OM"
  
Iruka: There are vibrations in the cosmos as you say, and they have certain power. OM is one of many, and this is what you refer to, and there are others. Is this better understood?
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Iruka: There are vibrations in [[the cosmos]] as you say, and they have certain [[power]]. OM is one of many, and this is what you refer to, and there are others. Is this better [[understood]]?
  
E1: Yes it is, but now it brings up another question. What are the other sounds and are they significant to a human spiritual growth in terms of repeating them successively or help in meditation or in whatever way it would make a human a better being, a spiritual being.
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E1: Yes it is, but now it brings up another [[question]]. What are the other [[sounds]] and are they significant to a human [[spiritual growth]] in terms of repeating them successively or help in [[meditation]] or in whatever way it would make a human a better being, a spiritual [[being]].
  
Iruka: Whatever way you can calm the thoughts, calm the brain, to get closer to the Father. This can be listening to calming music, it can be rubbing a small polished rock. But to repeat a word or words after a while doesn't help. The goal is to think of nothing. Not even a word. To imagine being in the presence of the First Source and Center, of you in the presence. Repeating a word would then soon interfere with this process. Does this help?
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Iruka: Whatever way you can [[calm]] the [[thoughts]], calm the [[brain]], to get closer to [[the Father]]. This can be [[listening]] to calming [[music]], it can be rubbing a small polished rock. But to [[repeat]] a word or words after a while doesn't help. The [[goal]] is to think of nothing. Not even a [[word]]. To [[imagine]] being in the [[presence]] of the [[First Source and Center]], of you in the presence. Repeating a word would then soon [[interfere]] with this [[process]]. Does this help?
  
 
E1: Yes, thank you.
 
E1: Yes, thank you.
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A2: Iruka, this is Art. I need to know... first of all thank you for being with us.
 
A2: Iruka, this is Art. I need to know... first of all thank you for being with us.
  
Iruka: Your welcome, I am happy to be here.
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Iruka: Your welcome, I am [[happy]] to be here.
  
A2: I need to know how I can help, if there is anything I can do for little Caitlan, who has a birthmark, that has gone astray, or has grown, and threatens her life.
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A2: I need to know how I can help, if there is anything I can do for little Caitlan, who has a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthmark birthmark], that has gone astray, or has [[grown]], and threatens her life.
  
Iruka: Part of the question was interfered with by the clock, but I think that I got the idea. There is a child, you were talking about her earlier. I am not aware of her, but I heard your conversation. I have no direct instructions, however, laying of hands and praying to the First Source and Center might help. There are certain people who have the gift of healing. You contacted one of them and he tried, but he was a long ways away. Just by putting your hand and praying to the First Source and Center, acting as a connection might help. The healing touch on someone who is ill always helps even if only to make them feel better. Make them feel loved. But I have no specific instructions. I am sorry.
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Iruka: Part of the [[question]] was interfered with by the clock, but I think that I got the [[idea]]. There is a child, you were talking about her earlier. I am not [[aware]] of her, but I heard your [[conversation]]. I have no direct instructions, however, laying of hands and [[praying]] to the [[First Source and Center]] might help. There are certain people who have the gift of [[healing]]. You contacted one of them and he tried, but he was a long ways away. Just by putting your hand and praying to the [[First Source and Center]], acting as a [[connection]] might help. The [[healing]] touch on someone who is ill always helps even if only to make them [[feel]] better. Make them feel loved. But I have no specific instructions. I am sorry.
  
G1: Hello Iruka, my name is Gale. I wanted to ask two questions, the first one is concerning my father who is in the hospital right now and is very ill. I wanted to know if you can see or have any insight into what is causing him not to come out of his coma, and if he will ever regain consciousness fully.
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G1: Hello Iruka, my name is Gale. I wanted to ask two questions, the first one is concerning my [[father]] who is in the [[hospital]] right now and is very ill. I wanted to know if you can see or have any [[insight]] into what is causing him not to come out of his [[coma]], and if he will ever regain [[consciousness]] fully.
  
Iruka: I am sorry to hear about your father. I have no first hand knowledge of him, and I do not know what will happen. I know that in this world humans have been told things that will happen in the future, but this is not our job and we don't know. I am sorry I can't tell you if he will be well or not. Again, you might just take his hand and hold it and pray. Does this help?
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Iruka: I am sorry to hear about your [[father]]. I have no first hand [[knowledge]] of him, and I do not know what will happen. I know that in this world [[humans]] have been told things that will happen in the [[future]], but this is not our job and we don't know. I am sorry I can't tell you if he will be well or not. Again, you might just take his hand and hold it and [[pray]]. Does this help?
  
G1: Yes, thank you. My second question is concerning numerology. Is there any scientific or spiritual significance to the way numbers are or appear in the Bible, and how numbers can affect us in our everyday lives. Is there any type of spiritual
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G1: Yes, thank you. My second question is concerning [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numerology numerology]. Is there any [[scientific]] or spiritual significance to the way [[numbers]] are or appear in the [[Bible]], and how numbers can affect us in our everyday lives. Is there any type of spiritual significance or [[scientific]] significance to the way numbers appear in life?
  
significance or scientific significance to the way numbers appear in life?
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Iruka: This has been a [[belief]] on [[this planet]] for thousands of years in many [[different]] [[cultures]]. But, again are you referring to [[predicting]] the [[future]]? with numbers? is that what you are referring to?
  
Iruka: This has been a belief on this planet for thousands of years in many different cultures. But, again are you referring to predicting the future? with numbers? is that what you are referring to?
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G1: That is part of it, [[predicting]] the future, but also just numbers as [[meaning]], anything specific, I think like One is a number supposedly [[symbolizing]] [[God]]. Two is supposed to symbolize man and various numbers have symbolic [[meanings]]. That is really what I think I am referring to. Is there any [[truth]] or significance to numbers having a [[spiritual]] or symbolical [[meaning]] to each number.
  
G1: That is part of it, predicting the future, but also just numbers as meaning, anything specific, I think like One is a number supposedly symbolizing God. Two is supposed to symbolize man and various numbers have symbolic meanings. That is really what I think I am referring to. Is there any truth or significance to numbers having a spiritual or symbolical meaning to each number.
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Iruka: The [[problem]] of course with [[predicting]] any [[future]] happening is that humans have [[free will]]. You may be able to guess that this person will choose this then something will happen. But still the [[person]] is free to choose his [[action]]. So for predicting happenings, it is very [[difficult]]. Sometimes, when your spiritual beings are trying to make you [[aware]] of certain things they might play with the [[numbers]]. This is to get [[attention]], to make you aware. Even your best [[forecasters]] cannot always know what is going to happen. But if certain numbers are catching your eye ask yourself what is going on, what can I learn? The [[emphasis]] has been in the wrong place it is not [[forecasting]] the [[future]]. It is making you stop and [[think]]. Is this helping?
 
 
Iruka: The problem of course with predicting any future happening is that humans have free will. You may be able to guess that this person will choose this then something will happen. But still the person is free to chose his action. So for predicting happenings, it is very difficult. Sometimes, when your spiritual beings are trying to make you aware of certain things they might play with the numbers. This is to get attention, to make you aware. Even your best forecasters cannot always know what is going to happen. But if certain numbers are catching your eye ask yourself what is going on, what can I learn? The emphasis has been in the wrong place it is not forecasting the future. It is making you stop and think. Is this helping?
 
  
 
G1: Yes, thank you.
 
G1: Yes, thank you.
  
G2: Hello, my name is Guy and I was wondering, do we each have a task that you want us to perform once we attain a certain level?
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G2: Hello, my name is Guy and I was [[wondering]], do we each have a task that you want us to [[perform]] once we attain a certain level?
  
 
Iruka: A task?
 
Iruka: A task?
  
G2: Do we have a spiritual task to in order to obtain....
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G2: Do we have a [[spiritual]] task to in order to obtain....
  
Iruka: To spend time with the First Source and Center, to continually to grow and learn, to become aligned with the Father, to make His will your will. This is the goal, this is a big task. Is this what you mean?
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Iruka: To spend time with the [[First Source and Center]], to continually to [[grow]] and learn, to become [[aligned]] with [[the Father]], to make His will your will. This is the [[goal]], this is a big task. Is this what you mean?
  
G2: Yes. Do I have a spiritual name?
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G2: Yes. Do I have a spiritual [[name]]?
  
 
Iruka: Yes
 
Iruka: Yes
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G2: Would it be possible to find out my spiritual name?
 
G2: Would it be possible to find out my spiritual name?
  
Iruka: Not at this time, perhaps later. Pam has a hard time with names. Could you ask this question later?
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Iruka: Not at this time, perhaps later. Pam has a hard time with [[names]]. Could you ask this question later?
  
G2: Yes, I understand. Are you here by yourself or are others watching us also.
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G2: Yes, I [[understand]]. Are you here by yourself or are others watching us also.
  
Iruka: There are many in this room, watching. There are other beings on various levels, and there are potential teachers who are watching and learning. This room is fairly crowded.
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Iruka: There are many in this room, watching. There are other [[beings]] on various levels, and there are potential [[teachers]] who are watching and [[learning]]. This room is fairly crowded.
  
 
G2: Thank you.
 
G2: Thank you.
  
Iruka: You are welcome
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Iruka: You are [[welcome]]
  
 
W1: Good evening Iruka this is Willis again.
 
W1: Good evening Iruka this is Willis again.
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Iruka: Hello Willis.
 
Iruka: Hello Willis.
  
W1: I have a question about astrology and mainly is there any significance there. A lot of people depend on what the newspaper says in the morning and what an astrologist has to say about their birth sign and I would like to hear what you would have to say about that.
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W1: I have a question about [[astrology]] and mainly is there any significance there. A lot of people depend on what the newspaper says in the [[morning]] and what an astrologist has to say about their birth sign and I would like to hear what you would have to say about that.
 
 
Iruka: Of course there sometimes appears truth in what they say. because it may apply to you. And how many times does it not apply to you. If you read it, and follow it, then you are limiting yourself. You are not allowing for trying to change. If it says you are stubborn for instance, you would never look to the Father and try and change your stubbornness. So it is not creative to follow this. With God anything is possible. You can grow and become like Him. There are various types of categories that every personality fits into. But do you see how you would limit your own growth if you took them to heart? And never tried to change.
 
  
W1: Yes I can see that. I guess I would be the wrong person to really talk about it because I don't follow it. I just watch other people use it as a guide and if I do anything at all I look it up after the day is over to see if it has been accurate. But I agree 100% in not following that and with today`s mind set a lot of people are just looking for something to hang on to because they haven`t felt the Father yet.
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Iruka: Of course there sometimes appears [[truth]] in what they say. because it may apply to you. And how many times does it not apply to you. If you [[read]] it, and follow it, then you are [[limiting]] yourself. You are not allowing for trying to [[change]]. If it says you are stubborn for instance, you would never look to [[the Father]] and try and change your stubbornness. So it is not [[creative]] to follow this. With [[God]] anything is possible. You can [[grow]] and become like Him. There are various types of categories that every [[personality]] fits into. But do you see how you would limit your own [[growth]] if you took them to [[heart]]? And never tried to [[change]].
  
Iruka: That is true. They are looking, there is a need in every person to find the Father. And so, they try different things. Your thought adjuster creates this hunger inside. But you see how limiting this ends up being. Because of course there are things that are truth, but it doesn't allow for growth. Thank you Willis.
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W1: Yes I can see that. I guess I would be the wrong person to really talk about it because I don't follow it. I just watch other people use it as a [[guide]] and if I do anything at all I look it up after the day is over to see if it has been [[accurate]]. But I agree 100% in not following that and with today`s mind set a lot of people are just looking for something to hang on to because they haven`t felt [[the Father]] yet.
  
W1: Thank you. On that same note, is it true that some people do have a knack of giving you your astrological future better than others? Because I do know that we do have people that you probably recognize over the airwaves that sell their talents for telling people about their lives. Is it fact that some of them can actually be more accurate than another person?
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Iruka: That is true. They are looking, there is a need in every [[person]] to find [[the Father]]. And so, they try [[different]] things. Your [[Thought Adjuster]] creates this [[hunger]] inside. But you see how limiting this ends up being. Because of course there are things that are [[truth]], but it doesn't allow for [[growth]]. Thank you Willis.
  
Iruka: We are getting very close to a topic that I am not allowed to speak on and I am sorry. I may have said a little too much. Please forgive me.
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W1: Thank you. On that same note, is it true that some people do have a knack of giving you your [[astrological]] [[future]] better than others? Because I do know that we do have people that you probably [[recognize]] over the airwaves that sell their [[talents]] for telling people about their lives. Is it [[fact]] that some of them can actually be more accurate than another [[person]]?
  
W1: Iruka, I am sorry if I got you into any trouble. So I'll move on to my next question. Thanks for the info. With reference to the transcripts that I was reading, the Wilmec transcripts, they mentioned that sometime early this year a Melchizedek was going to materialize at one of the meetings. Can you give me any
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Iruka: We are getting very close to a [[topic]] that I am not allowed to speak on and I am sorry. I may have said a little too much. Please [[forgive]] me.
  
information on that?
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W1: Iruka, I am sorry if I got you into any trouble. So I'll move on to my next [[question]]. Thanks for the info. With [[reference]] to the [[transcripts]] that I was [[reading]], the [[Welmek]] transcripts, they mentioned that sometime early this year a [[Melchizedek]] was going to [[materialize]] at one of the meetings. Can you give me any information on that?
  
Iruka: There are plans for Melchizedek to re-personalize, appear, in a body when certain things have occurred. There is no time frame as such. I do not wish to comment on this further.
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Iruka: There are plans for [[Melchizedek]] to [[re-personalize]], appear, in a [[body]] when certain things have occurred. There is no time frame as such. I do not [[wish]] to comment on this further.
  
W1: Thank you. Also, in the transcripts there were times when other levels of beings attended meetings, will that happen here? Where we will get a chance to converse with say a Melchizedek?
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W1: Thank you. Also, in the [[transcripts]] there were times when other levels of [[beings]] attended meetings, will that happen here? Where we will get a [[chance]] to converse with say a [[Melchizedek]]?
  
 
Iruka: I am sorry is this a question?
 
Iruka: I am sorry is this a question?
  
W1: The question is: I noticed in the transcripts there were times when a Melchizedek attended some of the meetings, and I was just curious if that just happens randomly and the chance of it happening here.
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W1: The question is: I noticed in the [[transcripts]] there were times when a [[Melchizedek]] attended some of the [[meetings]], and I was just [[curious]] if that just happens [[randomly]] and the [[chance]] of it happening here.
  
Iruka: Oh yes, they are free to visit any time at any meeting and frequently they do. That is not unusual. They are very involved in this teaching mission, so yes that happens. Does this answer?
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Iruka: Oh yes, they are free to visit any time at any meeting and frequently they do. That is not unusual. They are very involved in this [[Teaching Mission]], so yes that happens. Does this answer?
  
 
W1: Yes, thank you.
 
W1: Yes, thank you.
  
E1: I'd like to know, Iruka, is there..is the crop circles that have occurred maybe some years back a hoax or a fact? Are you familiar with that?
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E1: I'd like to know, Iruka, is there..is the [[crop circles]] that have occurred maybe some years back a hoax or a [[fact]]? Are you familiar with that?
  
Iruka: Again this is a topic that I am not allowed to talk about. I am sorry. Certain phenomena we are forbidden to talk about.
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Iruka: Again this is a [[topic]] that I am not allowed to talk about. I am sorry. Certain [[phenomena]] we are forbidden to talk about.
  
E1: At some point in time will there be...would you be allowed to discuss it, I mean that it is happening?
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E1: At some point in time will there be...would you be allowed to [[discuss]] it, I mean that it is happening?
  
Iruka: Of course anything is possible, but I do not have any knowledge that at a future date this would happen. But if it does, then certainly we can talk about it.
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Iruka: Of course anything is possible, but I do not have any [[knowledge]] that at a [[future]] date this would happen. But if it does, then certainly we can talk about it.
  
E1: Just curious, being that you are a teacher, can you expound on what it is you would be teaching us, at some point would you say for example this is how you could meditate, or this is a way you can (This not necessarily what you would teach us), do an out-of- body experience, or something to that affect. I mean at what point will we have lessons?
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E1: Just [[curious]], being that you are a [[teacher]], can you expound on what it is you would be teaching us, at some point would you say for example this is how you could [[meditate]], or this is a way you can (This not necessarily what you would teach us), do an [[Out of Body Experience|out-of- body experience]], or something to that affect. I mean at what point will we have lessons?
  
Iruka: Yes, very definitely. Tonight we are getting to know each other, and I am trying to answer a lot of questions and determine needs. Of course we will have topics such as love, forgiveness, general topics that we could have lessons on for a long time. Also, as I get to know each one in the group, I can target lessons in a general way that will help individuals specifically. So there are two ways; the general topics and specific needs. And yes, we will start having those lessons.
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Iruka: Yes, very definitely. Tonight we are getting to know each other, and I am trying to answer a lot of [[questions]] and determine needs. Of course we will have [[topics]] such as [[love]], [[forgiveness]], general topics that we could have lessons on for a long time. Also, as I get to know each one in the group, I can target lessons in a general way that will help [[individuals]] specifically. So there are two ways; the general [[topics]] and specific needs. And yes, we will start having those lessons.
  
E1: In terms of determining someone's needs. Could you discuss that with one's thought adjuster?
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E1: In terms of determining someone's needs. Could you [[discuss]] that with one's [[Thought Adjuster]]?
  
Iruka: What I would do is make rounds so to speak and visit each person in our group during the week and get to know you. You may be aware of my presence and sometimes you may not depending on how caught up you are in what your doing. In this way I can be more help, more of a guide to the needs of the group. Does this help?
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Iruka: What I would do is make rounds so to speak and [[visit]] each person in our [[group]] during the week and get to know you. You may be [[aware]] of my presence and sometimes you may not depending on how caught up you are in what your doing. In this way I can be more help, more of a [[guide]] to the needs of the group. Does this help?
  
E1: Yes. A while back when Art had mentioned about his niece, you mentioned about laying on of hands, what if someone was to pray from afar and there would be a secondary person to do the laying on of hands. I mean isn't it simply the faith that does the healing?
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E1: Yes. A while back when Art had mentioned about his niece, you mentioned about laying on of hands, what if someone was to [[pray]] from afar and there would be a secondary person to do the laying on of hands. I mean isn't it simply the [[faith]] that does the healing?
  
Iruka: Of course, absolutely, and with God anything is possible. So certainly try it. Does this help?
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Iruka: Of course, absolutely, and with [[God]] anything is possible. So certainly try it. Does this help?
  
 
E1: Yes, thank you.
 
E1: Yes, thank you.
  
A2: Iruka this is Art again. You said that there are many personalities in this room, many beings. Before you leave this evening, would it be possible for them to pray for two loved ones here, little three-month old Caitland, and Gale's father? I almost know that something good will happen if they do this.
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A2: Iruka this is Art again. You said that there are many [[personalities]] in this room, many [[beings]]. Before you leave this evening, would it be possible for them to [[pray]] for two loved ones here, little three-month old Caitland, and Gale's [[father]]? I almost know that something [[good]] will happen if they do this.
  
Iruka: Yes that is possible. It is also important that you do it, the whole group here does it.
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Iruka: Yes that is possible. It is also important that you do it, the whole [[group]] here does it.
  
 
A2: Can you lead us, Iruka.
 
A2: Can you lead us, Iruka.
  
Iruka: In prayer?
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Iruka: In [[prayer]]?
  
 
A2: Yes, please.
 
A2: Yes, please.
  
Iruka: OK and we will end after the prayer.
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Iruka: OK and we will end after the [[prayer]].
  
 
A2: Thank you very much.
 
A2: Thank you very much.
  
A2: Question, a while back, several years back or more, I was meditating and during my meditation I would experience out-of-body travel and I would experience, it was quite frightening, and I would also experience nothingness, very frightening, and then I experienced a light, the light had a "OM" sound to it. And it was very very bright as I approached it and I felt very very loved in that light. And could you help me, is there any significance to that? And why should I have seen that, and in my mind I can always see that light.
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A2: Question, a while back, several years back or more, I was [[meditating]] and during my [[meditation]] I would [[experience]] [[Out of Body Experience|out-of-body]] travel and I would [[experience]], it was quite frightening, and I would also experience nothingness, very frightening, and then I experienced a [[light]], the light had a "OM" sound to it. And it was very very bright as I approached it and I felt very very loved in that light. And could you help me, is there any significance to that? And why should I have seen that, and in my [[mind]] I can always see that light.
  
Iruka: I am sorry Art, I cannot discuss out of body experiences. This is another topic I am forbidden to talk about. However, if you felt this total love, unconditional love, that is your experience, that can be used in a positive way.
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Iruka: I am sorry Art, I cannot discuss [[Out of Body Experience|out of body experiences]]. This is another [[topic]] I am forbidden to talk about. However, if you felt this total [[love]], unconditional love, that is your [[experience]], that can be used in a [[positive]] way.
  
A2: Thank you. One more question, there was a guide that came to my uncle I believe early in the 1900's. Her name was Lucinda, the same name that appeared in the Welmec papers as a visiting guide. Are they one and the same? And does she now contact that group in the Dresden area?
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A2: Thank you. One more question, there was a guide that came to my uncle I believe early in the 1900's. Her name was Lucinda, the same name that appeared in the [[Welmek]] papers as a visiting [[guide]]. Are they one and the same? And does she now contact that group in the Dresden area?
  
Iruka: Lucinda is a name of a guide, I am not aware, I do not know if she was here during the early 1900's. And if I knew I don't think I could tell you. That it would be not allowed. I understand you want to relate this to your family member but I cannot confirm the link, I'm sorry.
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Iruka: Lucinda is a name of a [[guide]], I am not [[aware]], I do not know if she was here during the early 1900's. And if I knew I don't think I could tell you. That it would be not allowed. I [[understand]] you want to relate this to your family member but I cannot [[confirm]] the link, I'm sorry.
  
 
A2: Thank you.
 
A2: Thank you.
  
G1: Iruka, this is Gale and I have two more questions and then I won't disturb you anymore tonight. One, I'd like to know if you could tell us or myself personally or the group is there a proper way to meditate and if so what is the proper way to meditate.
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G1: Iruka, this is Gale and I have two more questions and then I won't disturb you anymore tonight. One, I'd like to know if you could tell us or myself [[personally]] or the [[group]] is there a proper way to [[meditate]] and if so what is the proper way to meditate.
  
Iruka: In seeking the stillness with the Father there are ways that help different people, first relax the body and then relax the mind. Seek the stillness think of nothing, imagine the Father, however you interpret the Father, however the First Source and Center, whatever has meaning for you and it is different for everyone. And just be in his presence. It is easy to say, and it is most difficult to achieve. It must be worked on and practiced, but the rewards are so great even a few seconds of a still mind has benefits. Does this help?
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Iruka: In seeking the [[stillness]] with [[the Father]] there are ways that help [[different]] people, first [[relax]] the [[body]] and then relax the [[mind]]. Seek the stillness think of nothing, imagine [[the Father]], however you [[interpret]] the Father, however the [[First Source and Center]], whatever has [[meaning]] for you and it is [[different]] for everyone. And just be in his [[presence]]. It is easy to say, and it is most [[difficult]] to achieve. It must be worked on and [[practiced]], but the rewards are so great even a few seconds of a still mind has benefits. Does this help?
  
G1: Yes, thank you and finally I wanted to know; my husband and I would like to start a family soon. Is there any thing that you could , are there any things that we should be doing to prepare for that.
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G1: Yes, thank you and finally I wanted to know; my [[husband]] and I would like to start a [[family]] soon. Is there any thing that you could , are there any things that we should be doing to [[prepare]] for that.
  
Iruka: When you and your husband seek the stillness and feel the love then you in turn can fill your home with it, to be felt by anyone who enters. The love is the most important. That is the best there is, that I can tell you. Does this help?
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Iruka: When you and your [[husband]] seek the [[stillness]] and feel the [[love]] then you in turn can fill your [[home]] with it, to be felt by anyone who enters. The [[love]] is the most important. That is the best there is, that I can tell you. Does this help?
  
 
G1: Yes thank you very much you have been very helpful.
 
G1: Yes thank you very much you have been very helpful.
  
W1: Iruka, this is Willis. Will we reach a point with the teachings where we will be able to get some of our more curious questions answered?
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W1: Iruka, this is Willis. Will we reach a [[point]] with the teachings where we will be able to get some of our more [[curious]] questions answered?
  
Iruka: You said will there be a point? Yes I think so however some times new questions arise. I am a guide to help you get close to the Father. There are sometimes questions that the main purpose doesn't really help you with the relationship with the Father. I am a being who is a little ahead of you and certainly have limitations on my knowledge. Certain questions I cannot answer I do not know or I cannot answer. I know that this is frustrating to you as a group, but once you begin to understand my work then you will understand what questions I can help you with in your walk with the Father. Does this help?
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Iruka: You said will there be a [[point]]? Yes, I think so, however some times new questions arise. I am a guide to help you get close to [[the Father]]. There are sometimes questions that the main [[purpose]] doesn't really help you with the [[relationship]] with [[the Father]]. I am a being who is a little ahead of you and certainly have [[limitations]] on my [[knowledge]]. Certain questions I cannot answer I do not know or I cannot answer. I know that this is [[frustrating]] to you as a group, but once you begin to understand my [[work]] then you will understand what questions I can help you with in your walk with [[the Father]]. Does this help?
  
W1: Yes, I believe I have a good idea what you will answer and will not , but I will still throw in a few every so often to check and see you are going to slip.
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W1: Yes, I believe I have a [[good]] idea what you will answer and will not , but I will still throw in a few every so often to check and see (if) you are going to slip.
  
 
Iruka: Understood, yes.
 
Iruka: Understood, yes.
  
A2: Iruka, this is Art again, can you tell us more about your existence, your life, where you come from where you hail from so that we can get better acquainted with a true friend.
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A2: Iruka, this is Art again, can you tell us more about your [[existence]], your life, where you come from where you hail from so that we can get better acquainted with a true [[friend]].
  
Iruka: Of course, thank you for asking. I was very ill on my planet. I was healed, then I became a minister. So my experience is of preaching, mostly the truth as I understood it and some of course was not. Does this help?
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Iruka: Of course, thank you for asking. I was very ill on my [[planet]]. I was [[healed]], then I became a minister. So my [[experience]] is of [[preaching]], mostly the [[truth]] as I understood it and some of course was not. Does this help?
  
A2: Thanks, can you tell us the stage of development your planet was in?
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A2: Thanks, can you tell us the stage of [[development]] your [[planet]] was in?
  
Iruka: It was not in life and light. But it certainly did not have the problems that Urantia has. There have been no defaults, no rebellion. So in many ways we were moving towards light and life, farther along than this planet. Does this help?
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Iruka: It was not in [[Light and Life|life and light]]. But it certainly did not have the [[problems]] that [[Urantia]] has. There have been no defaults, no [[rebellion]]. So in many ways we were moving towards [[light and life]], farther along than [[this planet]]. Does this help?
  
A2: Thank you. What is humor like at your level now?
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A2: Thank you. What is [[humor]] like at your level now?
  
Iruka: We enjoy humor, we enjoy your humor, and there is humor amongst us. There are less incongruities here to laugh about. See humor has to do with paradoxes and we have fewer of them so there is less humor, which does not mean we are humor less. There is just more things that are understandable which means fewer things to laugh about. Does this help?
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Iruka: We enjoy [[humor]], we enjoy your humor, and there is humor amongst us. There are less incongruities here to laugh about. See humor has to do with [[paradoxes]] and we have fewer of them so there is less humor, which does not mean we are humor less. There is just more things that are understandable which means fewer things to laugh about. Does this help?
  
A2: Thank you. Maybe someday we can laugh together.
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A2: Thank you. Maybe someday we can [[laugh]] together.
  
 
Iruka: Oh, I think we will.
 
Iruka: Oh, I think we will.
  
G1: Iruka this is Gale again I know I said I was finished, but I have one more question. Based upon what Art was saying it was interesting about your life on your planet and I was just wondering could you tell us the name of your planet and in reference to our planet how far away is your planet, based on where our planet is, and the name of your planet.
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G1: Iruka this is Gale again I know I said I was finished, but I have one more question. Based upon what Art was saying it was interesting about your life on your [[planet]] and I was just wondering could you tell us the name of your planet and in [[reference]] to our planet how far away is your planet, based on where [[Urantia|our planet]] is, and the [[name]] of your planet.
  
Iruka: The name is not important, it would not mean anything to you and other than saying it is far far away there is no way for me to explain where it is. This does not help, but do you understand?
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Iruka: The name is not important, it would not mean anything to you and other than saying it is far far away there is no way for me to [[explain]] where it is. This does not help, but do you [[understand]]?
  
 
G1: Yes I understand, I do.
 
G1: Yes I understand, I do.
  
G2: Iruka, this is Guy again. I have a personal question I notice in myself, when you go around visiting, could you spend a little extra time with me because I know I am kind of short patient and I have a quick temper. And I was wondering if when you come evaluate me and how I relate could you point out a reading in the Urantia book that would help me slow my temper down, and any other problems that you are going to find.
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G2: Iruka, this is Guy again. I have a [[personal]] [[question]] I notice in myself, when you go around [[visiting]], could you spend a little extra time with me because I know I am kind of short patient and I have a quick temper. And I was [[wondering]] if when you come [[evaluate]] me and how I relate could you point out a reading in the [[Urantia book]] that would help me slow my temper down, and any other problems that you are going to find.
  
Iruka: First of all I am not coming to judge. I am not coming to criticize I am here to help you find the Father. So do not consider me a critical judgmental being.
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Iruka: First of all I am not coming to [[judge]]. I am not coming to criticize I am here to help you find [[the Father]]. So do not consider me a critical judgmental being.
  
G2: I apologize, it is the Catholic in me.
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G2: I apologize, it is the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_catholicism Catholic] in me.
  
Iruka: Understood. I am here in love, as a guide, and the more time you spend with the Father, back to that again, the more things smooth out. But thank you for sharing that with me. Does this help?
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Iruka: [[Understood]]. I am here in [[love]], as a guide, and the more time you spend with [[the Father]], back to that again, the more things smooth out. But thank you for [[sharing]] that with me. Does this help?
  
W1: Iruka, Willis again. Will anyone who seeks a teacher eventually get one?
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W1: Iruka, Willis again. Will anyone who seeks a [[teacher]] [[eventually]] get one?
  
Iruka: Yes, originally the call was for 100 teachers. But things are happening faster than we expected to our joy and anyone who is willing to work at finding the stillness and who wants one may have a teacher.
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Iruka: Yes, originally the call was for 100 teachers. But things are happening faster than we [[expected]] to our [[joy]] and anyone who is willing to work at finding the [[stillness]] and who wants one may have a teacher.
  
W1: Teachers are not limiting themselves only to Urantia book readers are they?
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W1: [[Teachers]] are not limiting themselves only to [[Urantia book]] readers are they?
  
Iruka: In this mission...I can discuss this mission, the teachers of this mission are coming to students of the Urantia book. I have said just as much with my words as I have said with my silence. Do you understand?
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Iruka: In [[this mission]]...I can discuss this mission, [[the teachers]] of this mission are coming to [[students]] of the [[Urantia book]]. I have said just as much with my [[words]] as I have said with my [[silence]]. Do you understand?
 
===Closing===
 
===Closing===
It is getting late, and Pam is tiring. We were going to close with a prayer for two individuals. Father, Creator, First Source and Center, we come before you with open arms with love, we have two people that we love and are ill. We ask for your help, they are dear to us, we ask that you make them whole, free of pain and we ask that you help us get closer to you. We have fear, we have doubts help us take these away. so we can see more clearly. Be with us this week help us to show Your love through us to our co- workers, our families. Help us be the light that they can see. Help us be open to the hurt and the pain and show our love in teachings. Thank you.
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It is getting late, and Pam is tiring. We were going to close with a [[prayer]] for two individuals. Father, Creator, [[First Source and Center]], we come before you with open arms with [[love]], we have two people that we love and are ill. We ask for your help, they are dear to us, we ask that you make them whole, [[free]] of [[pain]] and we ask that you help us get closer to you. We have [[fear]], we have [[doubts]] help us take these away. so we can see more clearly. Be with us this week help us to show Your [[love]] through us to our co- workers, our [[families]]. Help us be the [[light]] that they can see. Help us be open to the hurt and the [[pain]] and show our love in teachings. Thank you.
  
 
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Topic: Vibrations & Healing

Group: Pocatello TeaM

Facilitators

Teacher: Iruka

TR: Pam

Session

Opening

Iruka: The light of God enfolds you, the power of God encompasses you, wherever you are He is. Good evening I am Iruka, I am your teacher and your friend. I am happy to be here this evening. I am excited about this group coming together and learning and growing, and wanting to be like the Father, the First Source and Center. I am here to help you, to be a guide so that you may grow and become like the Father. I am also your friend. I know that this is a new phenomena, I am aware of your fear and that is OK. It is good to be cautious. It is good to seek the truth. So do not be afraid; we will take it one step at a time.

Now I am aware of many questions, and I will be happy to try and answer them. Some questions if they are difficult, Pam may have trouble with. She is new at this, but she has trouble some times. However, both of us will do our best.

Dialogue

E1: First of all I would like to welcome you and I am curious as to the two letters O and M is there any spiritual significance to "OM"?

Iruka: Thank you for your welcome. OM or "OM" is used by certain middle-Eastern religions to help them clear out their mind when they meditate. If they believe it will clear their thoughts, then it does. You see the power of your mind is very strong, and it is a way to clear the thoughts, to slow them down and to quiet the mind. But your question is: does this have some magic or spiritual meaning -- not in that way, NO. Does this answer?

E1: I am not really sure, I was informed that it was referred to as a spiritual vibration, and I guess that is what I am trying to verify.

Iruka: Spiritual vibration, yes, somewhat, however its true power is that the mind believes it. Does this help?

E1: Somewhat, let me put another question. Is there a spiritual or is there a vibration in the cosmos that can be heard and does it have a sound of "OM"

Iruka: There are vibrations in the cosmos as you say, and they have certain power. OM is one of many, and this is what you refer to, and there are others. Is this better understood?

E1: Yes it is, but now it brings up another question. What are the other sounds and are they significant to a human spiritual growth in terms of repeating them successively or help in meditation or in whatever way it would make a human a better being, a spiritual being.

Iruka: Whatever way you can calm the thoughts, calm the brain, to get closer to the Father. This can be listening to calming music, it can be rubbing a small polished rock. But to repeat a word or words after a while doesn't help. The goal is to think of nothing. Not even a word. To imagine being in the presence of the First Source and Center, of you in the presence. Repeating a word would then soon interfere with this process. Does this help?

E1: Yes, thank you.

Iruka: Your welcome.

A2: Iruka, this is Art. I need to know... first of all thank you for being with us.

Iruka: Your welcome, I am happy to be here.

A2: I need to know how I can help, if there is anything I can do for little Caitlan, who has a birthmark, that has gone astray, or has grown, and threatens her life.

Iruka: Part of the question was interfered with by the clock, but I think that I got the idea. There is a child, you were talking about her earlier. I am not aware of her, but I heard your conversation. I have no direct instructions, however, laying of hands and praying to the First Source and Center might help. There are certain people who have the gift of healing. You contacted one of them and he tried, but he was a long ways away. Just by putting your hand and praying to the First Source and Center, acting as a connection might help. The healing touch on someone who is ill always helps even if only to make them feel better. Make them feel loved. But I have no specific instructions. I am sorry.

G1: Hello Iruka, my name is Gale. I wanted to ask two questions, the first one is concerning my father who is in the hospital right now and is very ill. I wanted to know if you can see or have any insight into what is causing him not to come out of his coma, and if he will ever regain consciousness fully.

Iruka: I am sorry to hear about your father. I have no first hand knowledge of him, and I do not know what will happen. I know that in this world humans have been told things that will happen in the future, but this is not our job and we don't know. I am sorry I can't tell you if he will be well or not. Again, you might just take his hand and hold it and pray. Does this help?

G1: Yes, thank you. My second question is concerning numerology. Is there any scientific or spiritual significance to the way numbers are or appear in the Bible, and how numbers can affect us in our everyday lives. Is there any type of spiritual significance or scientific significance to the way numbers appear in life?

Iruka: This has been a belief on this planet for thousands of years in many different cultures. But, again are you referring to predicting the future? with numbers? is that what you are referring to?

G1: That is part of it, predicting the future, but also just numbers as meaning, anything specific, I think like One is a number supposedly symbolizing God. Two is supposed to symbolize man and various numbers have symbolic meanings. That is really what I think I am referring to. Is there any truth or significance to numbers having a spiritual or symbolical meaning to each number.

Iruka: The problem of course with predicting any future happening is that humans have free will. You may be able to guess that this person will choose this then something will happen. But still the person is free to choose his action. So for predicting happenings, it is very difficult. Sometimes, when your spiritual beings are trying to make you aware of certain things they might play with the numbers. This is to get attention, to make you aware. Even your best forecasters cannot always know what is going to happen. But if certain numbers are catching your eye ask yourself what is going on, what can I learn? The emphasis has been in the wrong place it is not forecasting the future. It is making you stop and think. Is this helping?

G1: Yes, thank you.

G2: Hello, my name is Guy and I was wondering, do we each have a task that you want us to perform once we attain a certain level?

Iruka: A task?

G2: Do we have a spiritual task to in order to obtain....

Iruka: To spend time with the First Source and Center, to continually to grow and learn, to become aligned with the Father, to make His will your will. This is the goal, this is a big task. Is this what you mean?

G2: Yes. Do I have a spiritual name?

Iruka: Yes

G2: Would it be possible to find out my spiritual name?

Iruka: Not at this time, perhaps later. Pam has a hard time with names. Could you ask this question later?

G2: Yes, I understand. Are you here by yourself or are others watching us also.

Iruka: There are many in this room, watching. There are other beings on various levels, and there are potential teachers who are watching and learning. This room is fairly crowded.

G2: Thank you.

Iruka: You are welcome

W1: Good evening Iruka this is Willis again.

Iruka: Hello Willis.

W1: I have a question about astrology and mainly is there any significance there. A lot of people depend on what the newspaper says in the morning and what an astrologist has to say about their birth sign and I would like to hear what you would have to say about that.

Iruka: Of course there sometimes appears truth in what they say. because it may apply to you. And how many times does it not apply to you. If you read it, and follow it, then you are limiting yourself. You are not allowing for trying to change. If it says you are stubborn for instance, you would never look to the Father and try and change your stubbornness. So it is not creative to follow this. With God anything is possible. You can grow and become like Him. There are various types of categories that every personality fits into. But do you see how you would limit your own growth if you took them to heart? And never tried to change.

W1: Yes I can see that. I guess I would be the wrong person to really talk about it because I don't follow it. I just watch other people use it as a guide and if I do anything at all I look it up after the day is over to see if it has been accurate. But I agree 100% in not following that and with today`s mind set a lot of people are just looking for something to hang on to because they haven`t felt the Father yet.

Iruka: That is true. They are looking, there is a need in every person to find the Father. And so, they try different things. Your Thought Adjuster creates this hunger inside. But you see how limiting this ends up being. Because of course there are things that are truth, but it doesn't allow for growth. Thank you Willis.

W1: Thank you. On that same note, is it true that some people do have a knack of giving you your astrological future better than others? Because I do know that we do have people that you probably recognize over the airwaves that sell their talents for telling people about their lives. Is it fact that some of them can actually be more accurate than another person?

Iruka: We are getting very close to a topic that I am not allowed to speak on and I am sorry. I may have said a little too much. Please forgive me.

W1: Iruka, I am sorry if I got you into any trouble. So I'll move on to my next question. Thanks for the info. With reference to the transcripts that I was reading, the Welmek transcripts, they mentioned that sometime early this year a Melchizedek was going to materialize at one of the meetings. Can you give me any information on that?

Iruka: There are plans for Melchizedek to re-personalize, appear, in a body when certain things have occurred. There is no time frame as such. I do not wish to comment on this further.

W1: Thank you. Also, in the transcripts there were times when other levels of beings attended meetings, will that happen here? Where we will get a chance to converse with say a Melchizedek?

Iruka: I am sorry is this a question?

W1: The question is: I noticed in the transcripts there were times when a Melchizedek attended some of the meetings, and I was just curious if that just happens randomly and the chance of it happening here.

Iruka: Oh yes, they are free to visit any time at any meeting and frequently they do. That is not unusual. They are very involved in this Teaching Mission, so yes that happens. Does this answer?

W1: Yes, thank you.

E1: I'd like to know, Iruka, is there..is the crop circles that have occurred maybe some years back a hoax or a fact? Are you familiar with that?

Iruka: Again this is a topic that I am not allowed to talk about. I am sorry. Certain phenomena we are forbidden to talk about.

E1: At some point in time will there be...would you be allowed to discuss it, I mean that it is happening?

Iruka: Of course anything is possible, but I do not have any knowledge that at a future date this would happen. But if it does, then certainly we can talk about it.

E1: Just curious, being that you are a teacher, can you expound on what it is you would be teaching us, at some point would you say for example this is how you could meditate, or this is a way you can (This not necessarily what you would teach us), do an out-of- body experience, or something to that affect. I mean at what point will we have lessons?

Iruka: Yes, very definitely. Tonight we are getting to know each other, and I am trying to answer a lot of questions and determine needs. Of course we will have topics such as love, forgiveness, general topics that we could have lessons on for a long time. Also, as I get to know each one in the group, I can target lessons in a general way that will help individuals specifically. So there are two ways; the general topics and specific needs. And yes, we will start having those lessons.

E1: In terms of determining someone's needs. Could you discuss that with one's Thought Adjuster?

Iruka: What I would do is make rounds so to speak and visit each person in our group during the week and get to know you. You may be aware of my presence and sometimes you may not depending on how caught up you are in what your doing. In this way I can be more help, more of a guide to the needs of the group. Does this help?

E1: Yes. A while back when Art had mentioned about his niece, you mentioned about laying on of hands, what if someone was to pray from afar and there would be a secondary person to do the laying on of hands. I mean isn't it simply the faith that does the healing?

Iruka: Of course, absolutely, and with God anything is possible. So certainly try it. Does this help?

E1: Yes, thank you.

A2: Iruka this is Art again. You said that there are many personalities in this room, many beings. Before you leave this evening, would it be possible for them to pray for two loved ones here, little three-month old Caitland, and Gale's father? I almost know that something good will happen if they do this.

Iruka: Yes that is possible. It is also important that you do it, the whole group here does it.

A2: Can you lead us, Iruka.

Iruka: In prayer?

A2: Yes, please.

Iruka: OK and we will end after the prayer.

A2: Thank you very much.

A2: Question, a while back, several years back or more, I was meditating and during my meditation I would experience out-of-body travel and I would experience, it was quite frightening, and I would also experience nothingness, very frightening, and then I experienced a light, the light had a "OM" sound to it. And it was very very bright as I approached it and I felt very very loved in that light. And could you help me, is there any significance to that? And why should I have seen that, and in my mind I can always see that light.

Iruka: I am sorry Art, I cannot discuss out of body experiences. This is another topic I am forbidden to talk about. However, if you felt this total love, unconditional love, that is your experience, that can be used in a positive way.

A2: Thank you. One more question, there was a guide that came to my uncle I believe early in the 1900's. Her name was Lucinda, the same name that appeared in the Welmek papers as a visiting guide. Are they one and the same? And does she now contact that group in the Dresden area?

Iruka: Lucinda is a name of a guide, I am not aware, I do not know if she was here during the early 1900's. And if I knew I don't think I could tell you. That it would be not allowed. I understand you want to relate this to your family member but I cannot confirm the link, I'm sorry.

A2: Thank you.

G1: Iruka, this is Gale and I have two more questions and then I won't disturb you anymore tonight. One, I'd like to know if you could tell us or myself personally or the group is there a proper way to meditate and if so what is the proper way to meditate.

Iruka: In seeking the stillness with the Father there are ways that help different people, first relax the body and then relax the mind. Seek the stillness think of nothing, imagine the Father, however you interpret the Father, however the First Source and Center, whatever has meaning for you and it is different for everyone. And just be in his presence. It is easy to say, and it is most difficult to achieve. It must be worked on and practiced, but the rewards are so great even a few seconds of a still mind has benefits. Does this help?

G1: Yes, thank you and finally I wanted to know; my husband and I would like to start a family soon. Is there any thing that you could , are there any things that we should be doing to prepare for that.

Iruka: When you and your husband seek the stillness and feel the love then you in turn can fill your home with it, to be felt by anyone who enters. The love is the most important. That is the best there is, that I can tell you. Does this help?

G1: Yes thank you very much you have been very helpful.

W1: Iruka, this is Willis. Will we reach a point with the teachings where we will be able to get some of our more curious questions answered?

Iruka: You said will there be a point? Yes, I think so, however some times new questions arise. I am a guide to help you get close to the Father. There are sometimes questions that the main purpose doesn't really help you with the relationship with the Father. I am a being who is a little ahead of you and certainly have limitations on my knowledge. Certain questions I cannot answer I do not know or I cannot answer. I know that this is frustrating to you as a group, but once you begin to understand my work then you will understand what questions I can help you with in your walk with the Father. Does this help?

W1: Yes, I believe I have a good idea what you will answer and will not , but I will still throw in a few every so often to check and see (if) you are going to slip.

Iruka: Understood, yes.

A2: Iruka, this is Art again, can you tell us more about your existence, your life, where you come from where you hail from so that we can get better acquainted with a true friend.

Iruka: Of course, thank you for asking. I was very ill on my planet. I was healed, then I became a minister. So my experience is of preaching, mostly the truth as I understood it and some of course was not. Does this help?

A2: Thanks, can you tell us the stage of development your planet was in?

Iruka: It was not in life and light. But it certainly did not have the problems that Urantia has. There have been no defaults, no rebellion. So in many ways we were moving towards light and life, farther along than this planet. Does this help?

A2: Thank you. What is humor like at your level now?

Iruka: We enjoy humor, we enjoy your humor, and there is humor amongst us. There are less incongruities here to laugh about. See humor has to do with paradoxes and we have fewer of them so there is less humor, which does not mean we are humor less. There is just more things that are understandable which means fewer things to laugh about. Does this help?

A2: Thank you. Maybe someday we can laugh together.

Iruka: Oh, I think we will.

G1: Iruka this is Gale again I know I said I was finished, but I have one more question. Based upon what Art was saying it was interesting about your life on your planet and I was just wondering could you tell us the name of your planet and in reference to our planet how far away is your planet, based on where our planet is, and the name of your planet.

Iruka: The name is not important, it would not mean anything to you and other than saying it is far far away there is no way for me to explain where it is. This does not help, but do you understand?

G1: Yes I understand, I do.

G2: Iruka, this is Guy again. I have a personal question I notice in myself, when you go around visiting, could you spend a little extra time with me because I know I am kind of short patient and I have a quick temper. And I was wondering if when you come evaluate me and how I relate could you point out a reading in the Urantia book that would help me slow my temper down, and any other problems that you are going to find.

Iruka: First of all I am not coming to judge. I am not coming to criticize I am here to help you find the Father. So do not consider me a critical judgmental being.

G2: I apologize, it is the Catholic in me.

Iruka: Understood. I am here in love, as a guide, and the more time you spend with the Father, back to that again, the more things smooth out. But thank you for sharing that with me. Does this help?

W1: Iruka, Willis again. Will anyone who seeks a teacher eventually get one?

Iruka: Yes, originally the call was for 100 teachers. But things are happening faster than we expected to our joy and anyone who is willing to work at finding the stillness and who wants one may have a teacher.

W1: Teachers are not limiting themselves only to Urantia book readers are they?

Iruka: In this mission...I can discuss this mission, the teachers of this mission are coming to students of the Urantia book. I have said just as much with my words as I have said with my silence. Do you understand?

Closing

It is getting late, and Pam is tiring. We were going to close with a prayer for two individuals. Father, Creator, First Source and Center, we come before you with open arms with love, we have two people that we love and are ill. We ask for your help, they are dear to us, we ask that you make them whole, free of pain and we ask that you help us get closer to you. We have fear, we have doubts help us take these away. so we can see more clearly. Be with us this week help us to show Your love through us to our co- workers, our families. Help us be the light that they can see. Help us be open to the hurt and the pain and show our love in teachings. Thank you.