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== Session==
 
== Session==
 
===Opening===
 
===Opening===
Ian. Our discussion today is about greed. Ham has touched on this subject before, but there remain many layers of this human tendency that haven't been discussed. Greed has many sub-surfaces that take years of self-examination to recognize. Greed essentially is the tendency toward self perpetuation that takes care of one's self-esteem. Greed excites the self-esteem and so can possibly lead falsely into traps of various types which to sacrifice would mean sacrificing self-esteem which is tied to a deeper awareness of self, even basic self consciousness. Therefore, greed itself serves to help perpetuate the self and is a function of strong inner tendencies, even animalistic tendencies. Greed is like hunger; without this drive to eat, one would rapidly die; without the drive toward self-preservation, one would never truly unite oneself with God. Greed is essentially transferred from matter to higher spiritual values, eventually into infinite values.
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Ian. Our [[discussion]] today is about [[greed]]. Ham has touched on this subject before, but there remain many layers of this human [[tendency]] that haven't been discussed. Greed has many sub-surfaces that take years of self-[[examination]] to [[recognize]]. Greed [[essentially]] is the tendency toward self perpetuation that takes care of one's [[self-esteem]]. Greed [[excites]] the self-esteem and so can possibly lead [[falsely]] into [[traps]] of various types which to [[sacrifice]] would mean sacrificing self-esteem which is tied to a deeper [[awareness]] of self, even basic [[self consciousness]]. Therefore, greed itself serves to help perpetuate the [[self]] and is a function of strong inner tendencies, even [[animalistic]] tendencies. Greed is like [[hunger]]; without this drive to eat, one would rapidly die; without the drive toward self-preservation, one would never truly [[unite]] oneself with [[God]]. Greed is essentially transferred from [[matter]] to higher spiritual [[values]], [[eventually]] into [[infinite]] values.
  
Our Master used the word hunger, implying basic need, and greed is a similar function. Usually one progresses from greed for possessions such as wealth and fame, into greed for knowledge and understanding, into greed for spiritual power, which is a strong intoxicant while one resides in the mortal flesh. Be aware that this function of greed can not be completely eschewed (avoided) because of it's connection to will. All strong desire contains a component of greed. Desiring God's will does also. This will is the gift of God, through God, through all levels of being down to mortals and because of man's basic animal nature, this will is bonded with self preservation instinct, which is greed. It is good that you understand this so that you can allow God's will to function in your life by doing His will, which itself is will strengthening, without fearing the constant self judgment about greed. The judgment is mistaken. Is strength required? Yes. Is a strong, unified, active personality sought? Yes. Are wisdom and Grace attending? Yes. Therefore, fear not the exercise of will. You shall learn to temper it with grace.
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[[Our Master]] used the word [[hunger]], implying basic need, and greed is a similar [[function]]. Usually one [[progresses]] from [[greed]] for possessions such as [[wealth]] and [[fame]], into greed for [[knowledge]] and [[understanding]], into greed for spiritual [[power]], which is a strong [[intoxicant]] while one resides in the mortal [[flesh]]. Be aware that this [[function]] of greed can not be completely eschewed (avoided) because of it's [[connection]] to will. All [[strong]] [[desire]] contains a component of greed. Desiring God's will does also. This will is the gift of God, through [[God]], through all levels of [[being]] down to [[mortals]] and because of man's basic [[animal]] nature, this will is bonded with self preservation [[instinct]], which is [[greed]]. It is good that you understand this so that you can allow God's will to [[function]] in your life by [[doing His will]], which itself is will [[strengthening]], without fearing the constant self [[judgment]] about [[greed]]. The judgment is mistaken. Is strength required? Yes. Is a strong, unified, active [[personality]] sought? Yes. Are [[wisdom]] and Grace attending? Yes. Therefore, fear not the exercise of will. You shall learn to temper it with grace.
 
===Lesson===
 
===Lesson===
Ham: Greetings. I am Ham. I thank you three that your dedication and strength of certitude has again created our group. Our lesson is about greed and avarice. An action fueled at it's core through covetousness and acted without remorse or the higher awareness of individual responsibility to higher reality actually is avarice. Likened to a tree without water or sunshine, the human filled with avarice slowly dies, inside first. Greed isn't always an entirely negative motivation, as Ian recently taught. Greed for the extension of self into the morontial realms gives eternal life. Greed for knowledge culminates in wisdom, greed for truth eventuates in the reality-izing of this truth inside the human heart. Greed for beauty eventually creates beauty through art, and the greed for goodness eventuates growth in grace and charm. Within finite reality levels there is the necessity of there being a force which maintains individual separation from the "whole". Greed and it's various manifestation is a mindal result of this necessary force. For "I" to be maintained, it must have needs and desires that are unique and promoting of this individuality. However, when the self promoting aspects of mind take on an obsessive nature, there is danger that the disease called avarice will appear and eventually, through excessive absorption, shall this human separate himself increasingly from greater reality, so that he who "saves his life shall lose it.
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===='''''[[Greed]]''''', '''''[[Avarice]]'''''====
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Ham: Greetings. I am Ham. I thank you three that your [[dedication]] and [[strength]] of certitude has again created our [[group]]. Our lesson is about [[greed]] and [[avarice]]. An [[action]] fueled at it's core through [[covetousness]] and acted without [[remorse]] or the higher awareness of individual [[responsibility]] to higher reality actually is [[avarice]]. Likened to a tree without [[water]] or sunshine, the human filled with [[avarice]] slowly dies, inside first. [[Greed]] isn't always an entirely [[negative]] [[motivation]], as Ian recently taught. Greed for the extension of [[self]] into the [[morontial]] realms gives [[eternal]] life. Greed for [[knowledge]] culminates in [[wisdom]], greed for [[truth]] eventuates in the reality-izing of this [[truth]] inside the human [[heart]]. Greed for [[beauty]] eventually creates beauty through [[art]], and the greed for [[goodness]] eventuates [[growth]] in [[grace]] and [[charm]]. Within [[finite]] [[reality]] levels there is the [[necessity]] of there being a [[force]] which maintains [[The Part and the Whole|individual separation from the "whole"]]. [[Greed]] and it's various [[manifestation]] is a mindal result of this [[necessary]] [[force]]. For "I" to be maintained, it must have needs and [[desires]] that are [[unique]] and promoting of this individuality. However, when the [[self]] promoting aspects of mind take on an [[obsessive]] nature, there is [[danger]] that the [[disease]] called [[avarice]] will appear and [[eventually]], through excessive [[absorption]], shall this human separate himself increasingly from greater [[reality]], so that he who "saves his life shall lose it.
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===='''''[[Balance]]''''', '''''[[Ascension]]'''''====
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[[Our Master]] maintained superb and exquisitely masterful [[balance]] between the forces of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individualism self-reliance] and the forces of [[Deity]] [[embrace]]. In every human life, there are [[contradictory]] forces pushing and pulling at the [[personality]]. This human personality has to maintain [[self]]-[[respect]] while disclaiming all credit for [[achievement]]. He must maintain self-[[composure]] while experiencing the fullness of [[emotional]] [[transports]]. He needs a certain degree of [[self]]-[[maintenance]] and yet must his needs against the need of his [[family]], his [[community]], his state, and the world situation as a whole. No man can adequately determine his correct [[balance]] within these [[conflicting]] interests. He can only [[judge]] the merits of his character in [[comparison]] with that of [[Jesus]] and His commandments. [[Shun]], therefore, human [[effort]] at judging each other or even yourselves; rather, strive only to correctly maintain [[balance]] as you [[ascend]] heavenward. All else is in Father's hands. Regard your [[life]] as though all depended on [[Balance|BALANCE]] not [[Motion|MOTION]] and as you strive to maintain balance that all [[sincere]] [[effort]] avails and that God holds the sincere [[heart]] as though it were gold, precious in His [[sight]]. Sincerely seek [[balance]] and He will give you the [[wisdom]] to understand its [[achievement]] or its lack of achievement also.
  
Our Master maintained superb and exquisitely masterful balance between the forces of self-reliance and the forces of Deity embrace. In every human life, there are contradictory forces pushing and pulling at the personality. This human personality has to maintain self-respect while disclaiming all credit for achievement. He must maintain self-composure while experiencing the fullness of emotional transports. He needs a certain degree of self-maintenance and yet must his needs against the need of his family, his community, his state, and the world situation as a whole. No man can adequately determine his correct balance within these conflicting interests. He can only judge the merits of his character in comparison with that of Jesus and His commandments. Shun, therefore, human effort at judging each other or even yourselves; rather, strive only to correctly maintain balance as you ascend heavenward. All else is in Father's hands. Regard your life as though all depended on BALANCE not MOTION and as you strive to maintain balance that all sincere effort avails and that God holds the sincere heart as though it were gold, precious in His sight. Sincerely seek balance and He will give you the wisdom to understand its achievement or its lack of achievement also.
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[[God]] raises men, not the other way around. When one is [[sincerely]] [[poised]] and seeking God, then does He send all [[necessary]] aid and [[ascends]] the man Himself. [[Humankind]] too greedily seek [[ascension]] through means of their own and it avails nothing. [[Mankind]] has a million ways to [[artificially]] ascend, [[individuals]], [[groups]], even nations and they all fall again. [[Individual]] [[human being]]s ascend one at a time and by their sincere [[conviction]] of [[truth]] are they known to [[the Father]]. They may seek to be [[wise]] without experientially experiencing [[wisdom]]; they may seek to teach [[truth]] without residing within it's gentle [[bosom]]; they may [[aspire]] to [[goodness]] without experiencing the [[spiritual]] and they will fall back to their true level of [[maturity]] when the winds of [[adversity]] blow down their houses of cards. [[Wisdom]] isn't contained in [[cleverness]] anymore than [[knowledge]] is contained in [[facts]]. Thank you for coming this evening. I have enjoyed delivering this lesson, somewhat rambling though it may have been.
 
 
God raises men, not the other way around. When one is sincerely poised and seeking God, then does He send all necessary aid and ascends the man Himself. Humankind too greedily seek ascension through means of their own and it avails nothing. Mankind has a million ways to artificially ascend, individuals, groups, even nations and they all fall again. Individual human beings ascend one at a time and by their sincere conviction of truth are they known to the Father. They may seek to be wise without experientially experiencing wisdom; they may seek to teach truth without residing within it's gentle bosom; they may aspire to goodness without experiencing the spiritual and they will fall back to their true level of maturity when the winds of adversity blow down their houses of cards. Wisdom isn't contained in cleverness anymore than knowledge is contained in facts. Thank you for coming this evening. I have enjoyed delivering this lesson, somewhat rambling though it may have been.
 
 
===Dialogue===
 
===Dialogue===
Question: What can I do in my daily life to live more for the Master?
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Question: What can I do in my daily life to live more for [[the Master]]?
  
Ham: My son, you are (quickly) learning that the road to great riches lies at your feet. Ponder what values are and how are they real. You see, wealth is a spiritual endowment that our Father delights to give His sons daily. Find that which is truly of value and you will find that you are indeed wealthy.
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Ham: My son, you are (quickly) [[learning]] that the road to great [[riches]] lies at your feet. [[Ponder]] what [[values]] are and how are they real. You see, [[wealth]] is a spiritual [[endowment]] that [[our Father]] delights to give His sons daily. Find that which is truly of [[value]] and you will find that you are indeed [[wealthy]].
  
  
 
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Topic: Greed

Group: Woods Cross TeaM

Facilitators

Teacher: Ham

TR: Unknown

Session

Opening

Ian. Our discussion today is about greed. Ham has touched on this subject before, but there remain many layers of this human tendency that haven't been discussed. Greed has many sub-surfaces that take years of self-examination to recognize. Greed essentially is the tendency toward self perpetuation that takes care of one's self-esteem. Greed excites the self-esteem and so can possibly lead falsely into traps of various types which to sacrifice would mean sacrificing self-esteem which is tied to a deeper awareness of self, even basic self consciousness. Therefore, greed itself serves to help perpetuate the self and is a function of strong inner tendencies, even animalistic tendencies. Greed is like hunger; without this drive to eat, one would rapidly die; without the drive toward self-preservation, one would never truly unite oneself with God. Greed is essentially transferred from matter to higher spiritual values, eventually into infinite values.

Our Master used the word hunger, implying basic need, and greed is a similar function. Usually one progresses from greed for possessions such as wealth and fame, into greed for knowledge and understanding, into greed for spiritual power, which is a strong intoxicant while one resides in the mortal flesh. Be aware that this function of greed can not be completely eschewed (avoided) because of it's connection to will. All strong desire contains a component of greed. Desiring God's will does also. This will is the gift of God, through God, through all levels of being down to mortals and because of man's basic animal nature, this will is bonded with self preservation instinct, which is greed. It is good that you understand this so that you can allow God's will to function in your life by doing His will, which itself is will strengthening, without fearing the constant self judgment about greed. The judgment is mistaken. Is strength required? Yes. Is a strong, unified, active personality sought? Yes. Are wisdom and Grace attending? Yes. Therefore, fear not the exercise of will. You shall learn to temper it with grace.

Lesson

Greed, Avarice

Ham: Greetings. I am Ham. I thank you three that your dedication and strength of certitude has again created our group. Our lesson is about greed and avarice. An action fueled at it's core through covetousness and acted without remorse or the higher awareness of individual responsibility to higher reality actually is avarice. Likened to a tree without water or sunshine, the human filled with avarice slowly dies, inside first. Greed isn't always an entirely negative motivation, as Ian recently taught. Greed for the extension of self into the morontial realms gives eternal life. Greed for knowledge culminates in wisdom, greed for truth eventuates in the reality-izing of this truth inside the human heart. Greed for beauty eventually creates beauty through art, and the greed for goodness eventuates growth in grace and charm. Within finite reality levels there is the necessity of there being a force which maintains individual separation from the "whole". Greed and it's various manifestation is a mindal result of this necessary force. For "I" to be maintained, it must have needs and desires that are unique and promoting of this individuality. However, when the self promoting aspects of mind take on an obsessive nature, there is danger that the disease called avarice will appear and eventually, through excessive absorption, shall this human separate himself increasingly from greater reality, so that he who "saves his life shall lose it.

Balance, Ascension

Our Master maintained superb and exquisitely masterful balance between the forces of self-reliance and the forces of Deity embrace. In every human life, there are contradictory forces pushing and pulling at the personality. This human personality has to maintain self-respect while disclaiming all credit for achievement. He must maintain self-composure while experiencing the fullness of emotional transports. He needs a certain degree of self-maintenance and yet must his needs against the need of his family, his community, his state, and the world situation as a whole. No man can adequately determine his correct balance within these conflicting interests. He can only judge the merits of his character in comparison with that of Jesus and His commandments. Shun, therefore, human effort at judging each other or even yourselves; rather, strive only to correctly maintain balance as you ascend heavenward. All else is in Father's hands. Regard your life as though all depended on BALANCE not MOTION and as you strive to maintain balance that all sincere effort avails and that God holds the sincere heart as though it were gold, precious in His sight. Sincerely seek balance and He will give you the wisdom to understand its achievement or its lack of achievement also.

God raises men, not the other way around. When one is sincerely poised and seeking God, then does He send all necessary aid and ascends the man Himself. Humankind too greedily seek ascension through means of their own and it avails nothing. Mankind has a million ways to artificially ascend, individuals, groups, even nations and they all fall again. Individual human beings ascend one at a time and by their sincere conviction of truth are they known to the Father. They may seek to be wise without experientially experiencing wisdom; they may seek to teach truth without residing within it's gentle bosom; they may aspire to goodness without experiencing the spiritual and they will fall back to their true level of maturity when the winds of adversity blow down their houses of cards. Wisdom isn't contained in cleverness anymore than knowledge is contained in facts. Thank you for coming this evening. I have enjoyed delivering this lesson, somewhat rambling though it may have been.

Dialogue

Question: What can I do in my daily life to live more for the Master?

Ham: My son, you are (quickly) learning that the road to great riches lies at your feet. Ponder what values are and how are they real. You see, wealth is a spiritual endowment that our Father delights to give His sons daily. Find that which is truly of value and you will find that you are indeed wealthy.