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==Session==
 
==Session==
 
===Opening===
 
===Opening===
Tomas (Gerdean TR): Good afternoon, I am Tomas. I am going to take advantage of you here today and your attitude and discuss with you a wonderful quality, a quality that is badly misunderstood in your world and perhaps for good reason. This quality is one of obedience.
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Tomas (Gerdean TR): Good afternoon, I am Tomas. I am going to take [[advantage]] of you here today and your [[attitude]] and [[discuss]] with you a wonderful [[quality]], a quality that is badly misunderstood in your world and perhaps for good reason. This quality is one of [[obedience]].
 
===Lesson===
 
===Lesson===
It is clear to those of us in the spirit realm that each of you would obey any injunction offered to you by an authority for which you had open admiration and total trust as you do for our Father and as you do for Michael. It is also understood, of course, that you would not be asked to do anything by those beings that would be in any way harmful to you. This is part of why it is that you would obey so readily, but you understand this as a result of your intimate relationship with them. In the love that you share together, you understand their love for you, their power, their wisdom. So you would obey willingly any injunction or command given to you, even given to your Indwelling Adjuster, for your respect for the spirit is too great.
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===='''''[[Obedience]]'''''====
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It is clear to those of us in the [[spirit]] realm that each of you would [[obey]] any injunction offered to you by an [[authority]] for which you had open admiration and total [[trust]] as you do for [[our Father]] and as you do for [[Michael]]. It is also understood, of course, that you would not be asked to do anything by those beings that would be in any way harmful to you. This is part of why it is that you would obey so readily, but you understand this as a result of your [[intimate]] [[relationship]] with them. In the [[love]] that you [[share]] together, you understand their [[love]] for you, their [[power]], their [[wisdom]]. So you would obey willingly any injunction or command given to you, even given to your [[Indwelling Adjuster]], for your [[respect]] for the spirit is too great.
  
Your outer world is a different territory entirely. Blessed is the child who has an environment in which it feels and treasures trust, for in this environment the simple act of breathing is in obedience to the nature of God. The beauty of the realm in which you live in its natural and even refined states would not bring you harm. Your families, your loved ones, your teachers in the spirit realm, these are persons that you want to trust and would obey because of the nature of the relationship, because of the authority involved in the quality of the relationship. It is because the relationship is based on an idyllic love, that relationship which has been portrayed in the beautiful description of the love of the Father for His children and the love of the mortal father for his children. The son who desires to do his father's will is indeed obedient to the slightest nuance of the father's desire, because the child chooses to please the parent whom he loves. The selflessness of service is in response to an impetus of obedience, allowing the Father to guide your steps, to focus your mind, to deliver your voice; to hold your heart in obedience to that which is holy, righteous, and just.
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Your outer world is a different territory entirely. [[Blessed]] is the child who has an [[environment]] in which it feels and treasures [[trust]], for in this environment the [[simple]] act of [[breathing]] is in [[obedience]] to the [[nature of God]]. The [[beauty]] of the realm in which you live in its natural and even refined states would not bring you harm. Your [[families]], your loved ones, [[your teachers]] in the spirit realm, these are persons that you want to trust and would obey because of the [[nature]] of the [[relationship]], because of the authority involved in the quality of the relationship. It is because the relationship is based on an [[idyllic]] [[love]], that relationship which has been portrayed in the beautiful description of the love of [[the Father]] for His children and the love of the mortal father for his children. The son who desires to do his father's will is indeed obedient to the slightest nuance of the father's [[desire]], because the child chooses to please the parent whom he loves. The [[selflessness]] of [[service]] is in response to an impetus of obedience, allowing [[the Father]] to [[guide]] your [[steps]], to [[focus]] your mind, to deliver your [[voice]]; to hold your heart in obedience to that which is [[holy]], [[righteous]], and [[just]].
  
The world in which you live is well familiar with disobedience. It is indeed more common to disobey than to not. The concept of obedience in much of your culture is an indication of weakness, of being a follower, blind follower, a state not to be esteemed. Self determination and individuality are elements of the human existence that have confused an appreciation of what it means to be obedient. It is not to be subservient; it is not to be a doormat. It is not to be obedient to those lesser values that would render you weak. It is intended that my words to you recognize that obedience is in response to that which calls forth your very soul and exalts it to the level of actually yearning to do whatever it is that is required in order to gain acceptance and pleasure from the idyllic love relationship in existence between divinity and divinity.
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The world in which you live is well familiar with disobedience. It is indeed more common to disobey than to not. The concept of obedience in much of your [[culture]] is an indication of [[weakness]], of being a follower, blind follower, a state not to be esteemed. Self determination and individuality are elements of the [[human]] [[existence]] that have [[confused]] an appreciation of what it means to be obedient. It is not to be subservient; it is not to be a doormat. It is not to be obedient to those lesser [[values]] that would render you weak. It is intended that my words to you recognize that obedience is in response to that which calls forth your very [[soul]] and exalts it to the level of actually yearning to do whatever it is that is required in order to gain [[acceptance]] and [[pleasure]] from the idyllic love [[relationship]] in existence between [[divinity]] and divinity.
  
I love the hierarchy of the universe. I love the fact that each of us has our realms in which we function to have a sense of duty and responsibility. We are obedient to our trust, and we stay within the confines of our authority and offer to the next authority that which belongs to them willingly, giving up our sense of having no limitation, in full appreciation of the delineation of the many, many roles and responsibilities in order to maintain the universes of time and space. The order of the universes gives me a great deal of satisfaction, and this is possible because of obedience, not only obedience, of course, but obedience is a quality of the children of time and space that contributes mightily to the order of the universe, as you are intimately familiar because of your experience here on Urantia.
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I love the [[hierarchy]] of [[the universe]]. I love the [[fact]] that each of us has our realms in which we [[function]] to have a sense of [[duty]] and [[responsibility]]. We are obedient to our [[trust]], and we stay within the confines of our authority and offer to the next authority that which belongs to them willingly, giving up our sense of having no [[limitation]], in full appreciation of the delineation of the many, many roles and [[responsibilities]] in order to maintain the universes of [[time and space]]. The order of the universes gives me a great deal of [[satisfaction]], and this is possible because of obedience, not only obedience, of course, but obedience is a quality of the children of time and space that contributes mightily to the order of the universe, as you are intimately familiar because of your experience here on [[Urantia]].
  
How wonderful it is to obey His voice, to come to His side, to sit and bask in the pleasure of His company, to find your direction and have the confidence to walk therein, to have your holy character and have the will to live up to that which you can be when you obey your divine nature, your Indwelling Adjuster, and those authorities in the universe who contribute to your very greatness even in your humble obedience.
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How wonderful it is to [[obey]] His [[voice]], to come to His side, to sit and bask in the [[pleasure]] of His company, to find your [[direction]] and have the confidence to walk therein, to have your holy character and have the will to live up to that which you can be when you obey your divine nature, your Indwelling [[Adjuster]], and those authorities in the universe who contribute to your very [[greatness]] even in your [[humble]] [[obedience]].
  
As always it is a joy to be a part of your gathering. I embrace you and offer the platform to those many others who are here and rejoice in your ascent. Good afternoon.
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As always it is a [[joy]] to be a part of your gathering. I [[embrace]] you and offer the [[platform]] to those many others who are here and rejoice in your [[ascent]]. Good afternoon.
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===='''''[[Discipline]]'''''====
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Elyon (Jonathan): Thank you, Tomas, for the opener. This is Elyon. I truly [[appreciate]] the masterful [[quality]] of Tomas' [[understanding]] and his presentation. I wish to continue in this [[thought]] today, first by acknowledging your [[discipline]] in meeting as you do each week and allowing us to present to you food for [[your soul]] that you may apply and that you may grow.
  
Elyon (Jonathan): Thank you, Tomas, for the opener. This is Elyon. I truly appreciate the masterful quality of Tomas' understanding and his presentation. I wish to continue in this thought today, first by acknowledging your discipline in meeting as you do each week and allowing us to present to you food for your soul that you may apply and that you may grow.
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Each of you has in your [[course]] of life undertaken a [[discipline]] of one sort or another, and it is because you recognize that you lacked a [[skill]] or [[talent]] that another individual has [[attained]] and is capable of conveying to you. So you undertook the discipleship, the [[training]], from the one who has some degree of mastery. You did so with delight, for you realize what you would acquire that are present in the instructor. You thereby obeyed the instructions; you undertook the training; you went through the exercises and the drills with the joyful [[expectancy]] that you will acquire what is being presented to you.
  
Each of you has in your course of life undertaken a discipline of one sort or another, and it is because you recognize that you lacked a skill or talent that another individual has attained and is capable of conveying to you. So you undertook the discipleship, the training, from the one who has some degree of mastery. You did so with delight, for you realize what you would acquire that are present in the instructor. You thereby obeyed the instructions; you undertook the training; you went through the exercises and the drills with the joyful expectancy that you will acquire what is being presented to you.
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As Tomas has said, there is the tendency to not like the word "obedience", for -- in particular in the [[culture]] you are in -- [[freedom]], [[liberty]], and self determination are valued highly. Observing the [[course]] of [[Part 3|history on your world]], this [[value]] is [[good]], for much [[oppression]] has occurred and even continues on this world. But true [[liberty]] comes from mastery, and all mastery is received from a higher master. This requires your dedicated [[discipline]] to acquire that same [[ability]].
  
As Tomas has said, there is the tendency to not like the word "obedience", for -- in particular in the culture you are in -- freedom, liberty, and self determination are valued highly. Observing the course of history on your world, this value is good, for much oppression has occurred and even continues on this world. But true liberty comes from mastery, and all mastery is received from a higher master. This requires your dedicated discipline to acquire that same ability.
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To obey, to undertake [[training]], is not to give up your ability to determine your own [[destiny]], for you [[choose]] your [[allegiance]] and you choose your training. It is your course, and the end result is your [[liberty]].
  
To obey, to undertake training, is not to give up your ability to determine your own destiny, for you choose your allegiance and you choose your training. It is your course, and the end result is your liberty.
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Jesus asked his followers to follow him. [[The Father]] asks us all to be perfect as He is perfect. In this way the road is narrow, but that narrow road is only narrow for you; it is another narrow road for another, and in the totality of [[personality]] [[expression]] the avenue is broad. It is made up of the fine filaments of every personality seeking the Father and finding Him.
  
Jesus asked his followers to follow him. The Father asks us all to be perfect as He is perfect. In this way the road is narrow, but that narrow road is only narrow for you; it is another narrow road for another, and in the totality of personality expression the avenue is broad. It is made up of the fine filaments of every personality seeking the Father and finding Him.
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In [[observing]] the [[history]] of each of you in your spiritual [[journey]], I perceive that when you each chose initially to [[do the will of the Father]] at the level by which you could [[conceive]] that to be, you experienced [[joy]], you experienced a new-found zest for life. It is not the [[drudgery]] of following a commander. It is the [[beauty]] of following [[the Father]].
  
In observing the history of each of you in your spiritual journey, I perceive that when you each chose initially to do the will of the Father at the level by which you could conceive that to be, you experienced joy, you experienced a new-found zest for life. It is not the drudgery of following a commander. It is the beauty of following the Father.
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[[Ascension]] is not unlike the assembly of a complicated [[model]]. It differs in that it is living and [[adaptive]], will emerge and grow as you undertake your project. However, there is a proper order in which a model is assembled to obtain a result. This is where [[discipline]] and [[obedience]] to rule and [[law]] and [[nature]] come into play. In the end you have what you sought and you have gained a great prize.
 
 
Ascension is not unlike the assembly of a complicated model. It differs in that it is living and adaptive, will emerge and grow as you undertake your project. However, there is a proper order in which a model is assembled to obtain a result. This is where discipline and obedience to rule and law and nature come into play. In the end you have what you sought and you have gained a great prize.
 
  
 
Jessona is present and is anxiously awaiting, as she is aware of the request for her to be here to answer questions. I will now step back.
 
Jessona is present and is anxiously awaiting, as she is aware of the request for her to be here to answer questions. I will now step back.
 
===Dialogue===
 
===Dialogue===
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===='''''[[Healing]]'''''====
 
Tom: Thank you, Jessona for being here.
 
Tom: Thank you, Jessona for being here.
  
I attended a qi gong Chinese energy healing. I wanted confirmation whether you were instrumental in arranging this class and, more importantly, whether the terminology and imagery of the teacher are like Malvantra's portrayal of two differing standards measuring the same distance. The Chinese system speaks of physical, spiritual, and energy, linking information with spirit. Perhaps energy is our Adjuster.
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I attended a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi_gong qi gong Chinese energy healing]. I wanted [[confirmation]] whether you were instrumental in arranging this class and, more importantly, whether the [[terminology]] and imagery of the teacher are like [[Malvantra]]'s portrayal of two differing [[standards]] measuring the same distance. The Chinese system speaks of [[physical]], [[spiritual]], and [[energy]], linking information with spirit. Perhaps energy is our [[Adjuster]].
  
Jessona: Greetings to you. I was not so much an instrument in the arrangement of these classes as I was instrumental in encouraging your willingness to attend.
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Jessona: Greetings to you. I was not so much an instrument in the arrangement of these classes as I was instrumental in [[encouraging]] your willingness to attend.
  
This threefold presentation of yours regarding the physical, the energy, and informational levels has bearing in cosmic relationship. Your oriental philosophies do not look favorably upon the personalization of energies, and energy is a more favorable term to use. Greater value is placed upon mindedness, awareness and consciousness, enlightenment and knowing. This is the focus of this discipline, to take the energy, what we would call the presence of the Father, and to direct it through the circuits that He has ordained to bring healing upon the physical vehicle, or to bring vitality and increased life function. So, I would confirm to you that truth is woven into this system that you are observing and beginning to adopt.
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This threefold presentation of yours regarding the [[physical]], the [[energy]], and [[informational]] levels has bearing in [[cosmic]] [[relationship]]. Your [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_philosophy oriental philosophies] do not look favorably upon the [[personalization]] of energies, and energy is a more favorable term to use. Greater [[value]] is placed upon mindedness, [[awareness]] and [[consciousness]], [[enlightenment]] and knowing. This is the [[focus]] of this [[discipline]], to take the energy, what we would call the [[presence]] of [[the Father]], and to direct it through [[the circuits]] that He has ordained to bring healing upon the physical vehicle, or to bring [[vitality]] and increased life function. So, I would [[confirm]] to you that [[truth]] is woven into this system that you are observing and beginning to adopt.
  
You have rightly discerned the terminology will differ from how you have come to describe the realities. I encourage you to be inquisitive, investigative, to make the connections, to be as a detective, to gather the evidence and weigh it with what you know to be true. I remind you that Jesus was aware when the woman touched his garment that energy had gone forth.
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You have rightly [[discerned]] the [[terminology]] will differ from how you have come to [[describe]] the realities. I encourage you to be [[inquisitive]], investigative, to make the [[connections]], to be as a detective, to gather the [[evidence]] and weigh it with what you know to be true. I remind you that [[Jesus]] was aware when [[152:0 Events Leading Up to the Capernaum Crisis|the woman touched his garment]] that energy had gone forth.
  
 
Do you have more to say?
 
Do you have more to say?
  
 
Tom: No, thank you for your comments.
 
Tom: No, thank you for your comments.
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===='''''[[Emotion]]'''''====
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[a spirit helper] (Gerdean): I am a spirit helper. I would like to have a [[moment]] to discuss the [[value]] of the [[emotional]] circuitry. There was, in your [[sharing]], an [[opportunity]] to bring forth this message. I will try to plant the seed.
  
[a spirit helper] (Gerdean): I am a spirit helper. I would like to have a moment to discuss the value of the emotional circuitry. There was, in your sharing, an opportunity to bring forth this message. I will try to plant the seed.
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There was in your sharing an element of concern as to how you [[bond]] with your fellow [[human beings]], in particular those who have not your same interests or [[passions]]. Those with whom you have little in common are, even so, the ones who would be taught. How indeed do we pursue [[the Father]]'s will in such an instance? Much of the master's ministry was done this way as he passed by and without getting to know these people in depth or long term. He was, even so, able to [[perceive]] their yearnings and their open spaces in which to plant his [[seed]]. I would suggest that in your world a place to fertilize the soil would be in the realms of the [[emotions]], for all humans have emotions, whether or not acknowledged spiritual tendencies or inclinations. Certainly in the face of differing [[beliefs]] the human being still has [[feelings]]. It can be portrayed through certain feelings and emotions those reality levels that constitute the viable religious [[experience]], or certainly the gateway thereto. [[Camaraderie]] is not a spiritual experience to everyone, but it could be construed as that by some, for it involves [[harmony]] and compatibility and end of strife, a simple sharing. While overmuch social [[trivia]] is wearing and non-productive, the casual exchange, if engaged in from the heart in a fashion of brotherly love, is as quality an experience as is necessary in order to bridge the gap between the realms of [[reality]].
 
 
There was in your sharing an element of concern as to how you bond with your fellow human beings, in particular those who have not your same interests or passions. Those with whom you have little in common are, even so, the ones who would be taught. How indeed do we pursue the Father's will in such an instance? Much of the master's ministry was done this way as he passed by and without getting to know these people in depth or long term. He was, even so, able to perceive their yearnings and their open spaces in which to plant his seed. I would suggest that in your world a place to fertilize the soil would be in the realms of the emotions, for all humans have emotions, whether or not acknowledged spiritual tendencies or inclinations. Certainly in the face of differing beliefs the human being still has feelings. It can be portrayed through certain feelings and emotions those reality levels that constitute the viable religious experience, or certainly the gateway thereto. Camaraderie is not a spiritual experience to everyone, but it could be construed as that by some, for it involves harmony and compatibility and end of strife, a simple sharing. While overmuch social trivia is wearing and non-productive, the casual exchange, if engaged in from the heart in a fashion of brotherly love, is as quality an experience as is necessary in order to bridge the gap between the realms of reality.
 
  
When you feed his sheep you do not have to feed them alphabet soup. The fragrance of friendship is food indeed, a smile, an agreement, a well-placed pause. A heartfelt emphasis is a way of confirming a certain reality that gives credence to the individual, that acknowledges their personality, that gives them strength of understanding that their perception is valid. The Alpheus twins were certainly not gifted as was Peter or Andrew or Nathaniel in the teaching and preaching department, but still their joy in being a part of the fellowship was such that they carried that treasured memory with them throughout their lives. Just having been a part of what was going on was sufficient, and many people just want to feel as if they are a part of what is going on; they just want to be acknowledged as a part of life, even without the theologies and philosophies that embellish that gift, that blessing of being in existence.
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When you feed his sheep you do not have to feed them alphabet soup. The [[fragrance]] of [[friendship]] is food indeed, a [[smile]], an agreement, a well-placed pause. A heartfelt emphasis is a way of confirming a certain reality that gives credence to the [[individual]], that acknowledges their [[personality]], that gives them strength of understanding that their [[perception]] is valid. The [[Alpheus twins]] were certainly not [[gifted]] as was [[Peter, the Apostle|Peter]] or [[Andrew, the Apostle|Andrew]] or [[Nathaniel]] in the [[teaching]] and [[preaching]] department, but still their [[joy]] in being a part of the fellowship was such that they carried that treasured [[memory]] with them throughout their lives. Just having been a part of what was going on was sufficient, and many people just want to feel as if they are a part of what is going on; they just want to be acknowledged as a part of life, even without the [[theologies]] and [[philosophies]] that embellish that gift, that [[blessing]] of being in [[existence]].
  
 
In the event that this was helpful, it has been my pleasure. Thank you.
 
In the event that this was helpful, it has been my pleasure. Thank you.
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===='''''[[Expression]]'''''====
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Savid: I would return to [[obedience]]. I am reminded of the [[source]] of this word "obedience", ob-e-dar'-e, to hear. How is it that I could hear the prompting of Father, or perhaps your own requests to offer a [[platform]] for His and your [[speech]]? You know that that speech [[flows]] through us all as [[the Father]] does; the liquid of His [[love]] fills the pool in which we [[play]]. Perhaps there are moments when we are asked to leap into it, and we so delight. As we [[become]] more [[adventurous]] we dive into it from a greater height and probe deeper depths. Have I not heard you ask me to climb to a higher [[platform]] from which to dive? Though you lovingly [[encourage]] my deepest [[pleasure]], there are moments of reservation. Though we may hold back, do we not stand in obedience still, hearing you imploring us to launch forth, [[confident]] that our entry into that pool of Father's [[affection]] would enliven all who are watching? Where in this moment of pause and perhaps [[apprehension]] is there still not [[obedience]]?
  
Savid: I would return to obedience. I am reminded of the source of this word "obedience", ob-e-dar'-e, to hear. How is it that I could hear the prompting of Father, or perhaps your own requests to offer a platform for His and your speech? You know that that speech flows through us all as the Father's does; the liquid of His love fills the pool in which we play. Perhaps there are moments when we are asked to leap into it, and we so delight. As we become more adventurous we dive into it from a greater height and probe deeper depths. Have I not heard you ask me to climb to a higher platform from which to dive? Though you lovingly encourage my deepest pleasure, there are moments of reservation. Though we may hold back, do we not stand in obedience still, hearing you imploring us to launch forth, confident that our entry into that pool of Father's affection would enliven all who are watching? Where in this moment of pause and perhaps apprehension is there still not obedience?
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Elyon: My dear friend, this is Elyon, and I would [[speak]] to you by saying that if every one of my associates were to [[express]] as you have just now done I would be through with my work here, as I would have accomplished the task of introducing each to the [[Ta|divine source within]] and the expressiblility that you have just [[revealed]]. You spoke of the [[liquid]] [[love]] of [[the Father]] and the pool that each may dive into. [[We teachers]] are coming to [[this world]] to effect the [[correction time]], and this time of [[correction]] is because the world is parched; it is [[dry]]. It lacks that love. So, in effect we are pouring this liquid love upon the dry ones. You, my friend, are wet already. You are expressing the love of the Father resplendently, and I [[assure]] you that you do hear and that you do [[express]]. It is the [[pleasure]] of each teacher to make our [[contact]], and you express this [[desire]], and we are willing. But I must first emphasize that it is your [[expression]] as a child of [[the Father]] that is our [[goal]] as teacher/transmitters.
 
 
Elyon: My dear friend, this is Elyon, and I would speak to you by saying that if every one of my associates were to express as you have just now done I would be through with my work here, as I would have accomplished the task of introducing each to the divine source within and the expressiblility that you have just revealed. You spoke of the liquid love of the Father and the pool that each may dive into. We teachers are coming to this world to effect the correction time, and this time of correction is because the world is parched; it is dry. It lacks that love. So, in effect we are pouring this liquid love upon the dry ones. You, my friend, are wet already. You are expressing the love of the Father resplendently, and I assure you that you do hear and that you do express. It is the pleasure of each teacher to make our contact, and you express this desire, and we are willing. But I must first emphasize that it is your expression as a child of the Father that is our goal as teacher/transmitters.
 
  
I come to you all each week hoping to reveal the Father. I speak from my heart. Yes, though I do convey the curriculum of the Melchizedeks, I speak for myself, and I speak for your welfare. This I encourage each one of you to do, as well.
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I come to you all each week hoping to [[reveal]] the Father. I speak from my [[heart]]. Yes, though I do convey the [[curriculum]] of the [[Melchizedeks]], I speak for myself, and I speak for your welfare. This I encourage each one of you to do, as well.
  
 
Tomas, would you like to comment?
 
Tomas, would you like to comment?
 
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===='''''[[Authority]]'''''====
 
Tomas (Gerdean): Of course. My comment will be brief.
 
Tomas (Gerdean): Of course. My comment will be brief.
  
You asked how is it that we know the voice to obey. How do we recognize its authority? I am going to smile and suggest that those of you who talk to yourselves know the sound of your own voice, and those of you who answer yourselves understand the authority of the conversation, for you know each other well. The Father knows Himself well. He knows Himself well enough to speak to Himself in you. That in you which is of Him and which is Him is in obedience to Himself and thus responds obediently. It is in understanding I AM that you respond to authority. Indeed, there are many lesser authorities, and you can respond also to them if you are willing to let down your ideals and become a chaser of lesser things. Some of you do that temporarily until you find that it cannot hold your eternal interest, for you have solved your temporary trial and then return to the greater reality and seek to follow the leading of that which will lead you to where you will be truly satisfied. In knowing yourself you know whereof you speak, and you know what you hear, even beyond the Spirit of Truth. It is a direct reflection of the Father Himself. Even if you err, it is all an adventure. Thus you learn to listen even more carefully to the sound of the master's voice or to the call of the Eternal Parent as He says, "Come in for supper now. Come in out of the rain."
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You asked how is it that we know the [[voice]] to [[obey]]. How do we recognize its [[authority]]? I am going to [[smile]] and suggest that those of you who talk to yourselves know the sound of your own voice, and those of you who answer yourselves [[understand]] the authority of the conversation, for you know each other well. [[The Father]] knows Himself well. He knows Himself well enough to speak to Himself in you. That in you which is of Him and which is Him is in obedience to Himself and thus responds obediently. It is in [[understanding]] [[I AM]] that you respond to authority. Indeed, there are many lesser authorities, and you can respond also to them if you are willing to let down your [[ideals]] and become a chaser of lesser things. Some of you do that temporarily until you find that it cannot hold your [[eternal]] interest, for you have solved your temporary [[trial]] and then return to the greater [[reality]] and seek to follow the [[leading]] of that which will lead you to where you will be truly [[satisfied]]. In knowing yourself you know whereof you speak, and you know what you hear, even beyond the [[Spirit of Truth]]. It is a direct [[reflection]] of the Father Himself. Even if you [[err]], it is all an [[adventure]]. Thus you learn to [[listen]] even more carefully to the sound of [[the Master]]'s voice or to the call of the [[Eternal Parent]] as He says, "Come in for supper now. Come in out of the rain."
  
Yes, too often it is that you will be encouraged to climb higher, to dive deeper, to extend yourself farther. These too you do willingly, obediently, even without fear because of your relationship that you have developed with the Father.
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Yes, too often it is that you will be [[encouraged]] to climb higher, to dive deeper, to extend yourself farther. These too you do willingly, obediently, even without [[fear]] because of your [[relationship]] that you have developed with [[the Father]].
  
Earlier I spoke of your relationship between divinity and divinity, for you are also a portion of divinity. Again I say it is in response to hearing your own voice when you say to yourself, "Yes, sir." You are following a high command, and you cannot fail, even though it may be true that you will learn many lessons.
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Earlier I spoke of your [[relationship]] between [[divinity]] and divinity, for you are also a portion of divinity. Again I say it is in response to hearing your own [[voice]] when you say to yourself, "Yes, sir." You are following a high [[command]], and you cannot fail, even though it may be true that you will learn many lessons.
  
 
===Closing===
 
===Closing===
I am finished. Are there other questions?
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I am finished. Are there other [[questions]]?
  
Savid: I would give thanks to those gathered here, seen and unseen, who have dived into this experience.
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Savid: I would give thanks to those gathered here, seen and [[unseen]], who have dived into this [[experience]].
  
 
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Topic: Emotional Circuitry

Group: N. Idaho TeaM

Facilitators

Teacher: Tomas, Elyon

TR: Gerdean, Jonathan, Jessona

Session

Opening

Tomas (Gerdean TR): Good afternoon, I am Tomas. I am going to take advantage of you here today and your attitude and discuss with you a wonderful quality, a quality that is badly misunderstood in your world and perhaps for good reason. This quality is one of obedience.

Lesson

Obedience

It is clear to those of us in the spirit realm that each of you would obey any injunction offered to you by an authority for which you had open admiration and total trust as you do for our Father and as you do for Michael. It is also understood, of course, that you would not be asked to do anything by those beings that would be in any way harmful to you. This is part of why it is that you would obey so readily, but you understand this as a result of your intimate relationship with them. In the love that you share together, you understand their love for you, their power, their wisdom. So you would obey willingly any injunction or command given to you, even given to your Indwelling Adjuster, for your respect for the spirit is too great.

Your outer world is a different territory entirely. Blessed is the child who has an environment in which it feels and treasures trust, for in this environment the simple act of breathing is in obedience to the nature of God. The beauty of the realm in which you live in its natural and even refined states would not bring you harm. Your families, your loved ones, your teachers in the spirit realm, these are persons that you want to trust and would obey because of the nature of the relationship, because of the authority involved in the quality of the relationship. It is because the relationship is based on an idyllic love, that relationship which has been portrayed in the beautiful description of the love of the Father for His children and the love of the mortal father for his children. The son who desires to do his father's will is indeed obedient to the slightest nuance of the father's desire, because the child chooses to please the parent whom he loves. The selflessness of service is in response to an impetus of obedience, allowing the Father to guide your steps, to focus your mind, to deliver your voice; to hold your heart in obedience to that which is holy, righteous, and just.

The world in which you live is well familiar with disobedience. It is indeed more common to disobey than to not. The concept of obedience in much of your culture is an indication of weakness, of being a follower, blind follower, a state not to be esteemed. Self determination and individuality are elements of the human existence that have confused an appreciation of what it means to be obedient. It is not to be subservient; it is not to be a doormat. It is not to be obedient to those lesser values that would render you weak. It is intended that my words to you recognize that obedience is in response to that which calls forth your very soul and exalts it to the level of actually yearning to do whatever it is that is required in order to gain acceptance and pleasure from the idyllic love relationship in existence between divinity and divinity.

I love the hierarchy of the universe. I love the fact that each of us has our realms in which we function to have a sense of duty and responsibility. We are obedient to our trust, and we stay within the confines of our authority and offer to the next authority that which belongs to them willingly, giving up our sense of having no limitation, in full appreciation of the delineation of the many, many roles and responsibilities in order to maintain the universes of time and space. The order of the universes gives me a great deal of satisfaction, and this is possible because of obedience, not only obedience, of course, but obedience is a quality of the children of time and space that contributes mightily to the order of the universe, as you are intimately familiar because of your experience here on Urantia.

How wonderful it is to obey His voice, to come to His side, to sit and bask in the pleasure of His company, to find your direction and have the confidence to walk therein, to have your holy character and have the will to live up to that which you can be when you obey your divine nature, your Indwelling Adjuster, and those authorities in the universe who contribute to your very greatness even in your humble obedience.

As always it is a joy to be a part of your gathering. I embrace you and offer the platform to those many others who are here and rejoice in your ascent. Good afternoon.

Discipline

Elyon (Jonathan): Thank you, Tomas, for the opener. This is Elyon. I truly appreciate the masterful quality of Tomas' understanding and his presentation. I wish to continue in this thought today, first by acknowledging your discipline in meeting as you do each week and allowing us to present to you food for your soul that you may apply and that you may grow.

Each of you has in your course of life undertaken a discipline of one sort or another, and it is because you recognize that you lacked a skill or talent that another individual has attained and is capable of conveying to you. So you undertook the discipleship, the training, from the one who has some degree of mastery. You did so with delight, for you realize what you would acquire that are present in the instructor. You thereby obeyed the instructions; you undertook the training; you went through the exercises and the drills with the joyful expectancy that you will acquire what is being presented to you.

As Tomas has said, there is the tendency to not like the word "obedience", for -- in particular in the culture you are in -- freedom, liberty, and self determination are valued highly. Observing the course of history on your world, this value is good, for much oppression has occurred and even continues on this world. But true liberty comes from mastery, and all mastery is received from a higher master. This requires your dedicated discipline to acquire that same ability.

To obey, to undertake training, is not to give up your ability to determine your own destiny, for you choose your allegiance and you choose your training. It is your course, and the end result is your liberty.

Jesus asked his followers to follow him. The Father asks us all to be perfect as He is perfect. In this way the road is narrow, but that narrow road is only narrow for you; it is another narrow road for another, and in the totality of personality expression the avenue is broad. It is made up of the fine filaments of every personality seeking the Father and finding Him.

In observing the history of each of you in your spiritual journey, I perceive that when you each chose initially to do the will of the Father at the level by which you could conceive that to be, you experienced joy, you experienced a new-found zest for life. It is not the drudgery of following a commander. It is the beauty of following the Father.

Ascension is not unlike the assembly of a complicated model. It differs in that it is living and adaptive, will emerge and grow as you undertake your project. However, there is a proper order in which a model is assembled to obtain a result. This is where discipline and obedience to rule and law and nature come into play. In the end you have what you sought and you have gained a great prize.

Jessona is present and is anxiously awaiting, as she is aware of the request for her to be here to answer questions. I will now step back.

Dialogue

Healing

Tom: Thank you, Jessona for being here.

I attended a qi gong Chinese energy healing. I wanted confirmation whether you were instrumental in arranging this class and, more importantly, whether the terminology and imagery of the teacher are like Malvantra's portrayal of two differing standards measuring the same distance. The Chinese system speaks of physical, spiritual, and energy, linking information with spirit. Perhaps energy is our Adjuster.

Jessona: Greetings to you. I was not so much an instrument in the arrangement of these classes as I was instrumental in encouraging your willingness to attend.

This threefold presentation of yours regarding the physical, the energy, and informational levels has bearing in cosmic relationship. Your oriental philosophies do not look favorably upon the personalization of energies, and energy is a more favorable term to use. Greater value is placed upon mindedness, awareness and consciousness, enlightenment and knowing. This is the focus of this discipline, to take the energy, what we would call the presence of the Father, and to direct it through the circuits that He has ordained to bring healing upon the physical vehicle, or to bring vitality and increased life function. So, I would confirm to you that truth is woven into this system that you are observing and beginning to adopt.

You have rightly discerned the terminology will differ from how you have come to describe the realities. I encourage you to be inquisitive, investigative, to make the connections, to be as a detective, to gather the evidence and weigh it with what you know to be true. I remind you that Jesus was aware when the woman touched his garment that energy had gone forth.

Do you have more to say?

Tom: No, thank you for your comments.

Emotion

[a spirit helper] (Gerdean): I am a spirit helper. I would like to have a moment to discuss the value of the emotional circuitry. There was, in your sharing, an opportunity to bring forth this message. I will try to plant the seed.

There was in your sharing an element of concern as to how you bond with your fellow human beings, in particular those who have not your same interests or passions. Those with whom you have little in common are, even so, the ones who would be taught. How indeed do we pursue the Father's will in such an instance? Much of the master's ministry was done this way as he passed by and without getting to know these people in depth or long term. He was, even so, able to perceive their yearnings and their open spaces in which to plant his seed. I would suggest that in your world a place to fertilize the soil would be in the realms of the emotions, for all humans have emotions, whether or not acknowledged spiritual tendencies or inclinations. Certainly in the face of differing beliefs the human being still has feelings. It can be portrayed through certain feelings and emotions those reality levels that constitute the viable religious experience, or certainly the gateway thereto. Camaraderie is not a spiritual experience to everyone, but it could be construed as that by some, for it involves harmony and compatibility and end of strife, a simple sharing. While overmuch social trivia is wearing and non-productive, the casual exchange, if engaged in from the heart in a fashion of brotherly love, is as quality an experience as is necessary in order to bridge the gap between the realms of reality.

When you feed his sheep you do not have to feed them alphabet soup. The fragrance of friendship is food indeed, a smile, an agreement, a well-placed pause. A heartfelt emphasis is a way of confirming a certain reality that gives credence to the individual, that acknowledges their personality, that gives them strength of understanding that their perception is valid. The Alpheus twins were certainly not gifted as was Peter or Andrew or Nathaniel in the teaching and preaching department, but still their joy in being a part of the fellowship was such that they carried that treasured memory with them throughout their lives. Just having been a part of what was going on was sufficient, and many people just want to feel as if they are a part of what is going on; they just want to be acknowledged as a part of life, even without the theologies and philosophies that embellish that gift, that blessing of being in existence.

In the event that this was helpful, it has been my pleasure. Thank you.

Expression

Savid: I would return to obedience. I am reminded of the source of this word "obedience", ob-e-dar'-e, to hear. How is it that I could hear the prompting of Father, or perhaps your own requests to offer a platform for His and your speech? You know that that speech flows through us all as the Father does; the liquid of His love fills the pool in which we play. Perhaps there are moments when we are asked to leap into it, and we so delight. As we become more adventurous we dive into it from a greater height and probe deeper depths. Have I not heard you ask me to climb to a higher platform from which to dive? Though you lovingly encourage my deepest pleasure, there are moments of reservation. Though we may hold back, do we not stand in obedience still, hearing you imploring us to launch forth, confident that our entry into that pool of Father's affection would enliven all who are watching? Where in this moment of pause and perhaps apprehension is there still not obedience?

Elyon: My dear friend, this is Elyon, and I would speak to you by saying that if every one of my associates were to express as you have just now done I would be through with my work here, as I would have accomplished the task of introducing each to the divine source within and the expressiblility that you have just revealed. You spoke of the liquid love of the Father and the pool that each may dive into. We teachers are coming to this world to effect the correction time, and this time of correction is because the world is parched; it is dry. It lacks that love. So, in effect we are pouring this liquid love upon the dry ones. You, my friend, are wet already. You are expressing the love of the Father resplendently, and I assure you that you do hear and that you do express. It is the pleasure of each teacher to make our contact, and you express this desire, and we are willing. But I must first emphasize that it is your expression as a child of the Father that is our goal as teacher/transmitters.

I come to you all each week hoping to reveal the Father. I speak from my heart. Yes, though I do convey the curriculum of the Melchizedeks, I speak for myself, and I speak for your welfare. This I encourage each one of you to do, as well.

Tomas, would you like to comment?

Authority

Tomas (Gerdean): Of course. My comment will be brief.

You asked how is it that we know the voice to obey. How do we recognize its authority? I am going to smile and suggest that those of you who talk to yourselves know the sound of your own voice, and those of you who answer yourselves understand the authority of the conversation, for you know each other well. The Father knows Himself well. He knows Himself well enough to speak to Himself in you. That in you which is of Him and which is Him is in obedience to Himself and thus responds obediently. It is in understanding I AM that you respond to authority. Indeed, there are many lesser authorities, and you can respond also to them if you are willing to let down your ideals and become a chaser of lesser things. Some of you do that temporarily until you find that it cannot hold your eternal interest, for you have solved your temporary trial and then return to the greater reality and seek to follow the leading of that which will lead you to where you will be truly satisfied. In knowing yourself you know whereof you speak, and you know what you hear, even beyond the Spirit of Truth. It is a direct reflection of the Father Himself. Even if you err, it is all an adventure. Thus you learn to listen even more carefully to the sound of the Master's voice or to the call of the Eternal Parent as He says, "Come in for supper now. Come in out of the rain."

Yes, too often it is that you will be encouraged to climb higher, to dive deeper, to extend yourself farther. These too you do willingly, obediently, even without fear because of your relationship that you have developed with the Father.

Earlier I spoke of your relationship between divinity and divinity, for you are also a portion of divinity. Again I say it is in response to hearing your own voice when you say to yourself, "Yes, sir." You are following a high command, and you cannot fail, even though it may be true that you will learn many lessons.

Closing

I am finished. Are there other questions?

Savid: I would give thanks to those gathered here, seen and unseen, who have dived into this experience.