What's In a Name
Gerdean wrote:Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:02 PM
I transmitted a secondary midwayer, name of Gorman, for a number of years. Recently, Henry Z transmitted a Teacher, name of Gorman. They are not the same entity. Now there is further confusion with the spelling. In both my transcripts and in the one out of the NW TeaM, both entities have spelled it Gorman, but here it is presented as Gormon.
Just saying ...
Rob wrote: Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:53 PM
Thank you for pointing out the obvious need to resolve these. I have been waiting to see for sure if the Gormon from N. Idaho is not the Gorman we have known earlier. As it seems this distinction is now vivid, perhaps you and others could advise regarding the two different collections.
Here are the lessons I think should be attributed to Gorman.
- 1999-05-25-Midwayer Operations
- 2000-09-30-Our Mutual Kin, The Secondary Midwayers
- 2001-07-06-Down To Earth Reality
- 2001-10-06-Fear vs. Faith
- 2003-01-04-A Numbers Game
- 2004-04-29-Why We Come Together
- 2008-05-05-You Sowed The Seed
Here are the lessons I think should be attributed to "Gormon".
- 2013-02-14-Lightline TeaM
- 2013-02-17-N. Idaho TeaM
- 2013-02-24-N. Idaho TeaM
- 2013-03-17-N. Idaho TeaM
- 2013-04-14-N. Idaho TeaM
The spelling Gormon was simply my initial effort to distinguish these for category purposes without knowing for sure they were two different personalities. Once we have confirmed that in fact they are considered two separate persons as it seems fairly evident, I would like to know a little bit about the newer Gorman e.g. a member of the Teacher Corps, an angelic being, a Descending Son, etc.. More importantly, I will need to correct the spelling of his name to match that of Gorman the midwayer, BUT I will need to make some distinction in the record so links to him take persons to the proper collection of lessons e.g. Gorman II, Gorman, the ...., or some sort of reference to keep automated systems from confusing the two. As Gorman the midwayer was first to use the name, I would rather keep his name as is. What do you and others think best?
Marty wrote: Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:45 PM
Hi Rob and all,
I know Gorman the midwayer as a working associate with Gerdean and could never have confused the new person named Gorman with him. It seems to me that I know several people named Rob but am never confused about who I am with.
I vote for just letting them have their names as given.
Rob wrote: Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:42 PM
Thank you Marty! Yes, I agree, but there is a need to distinguish the two for purposes of the database and to confirm the lessons for each of the two personalities.
Tom Newbill wrote: Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:00 PM
ob...I assumed the spelling of the name to be Gorman....the teachers rarely spell their names in our group. Tom
Rob wrote:Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:29 PM
Hello Tom! Thank you for your input. I do think the spelling for Gorman is without issue. Do you know anything about the teacher that I could use in describing him?
Gerdean wrote:Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:59 PM
I agree with this listing for Gorman of his transcripts. George Barnard met midwayer Gorman, so he knows whereof he speaks.
The "other Gorman" is from another world and ought not be confused with our local midwayer Gorman and, since the NW TeaM does not care about spelling, I would vote to list the Teacher's lessons separately from the midwayer spell Teacher "Gormon" as compared to Gorman (but you can't tell people how to spell. It just pisses them off.)
Gerdean wrote:Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:02 PM
I read his words and, like Marty, thought he was our friend the midwayer, but as he was closing out, he said he was from another universe, so that shot a hole in that presumption. He didn't say anything about where he came from, however, only that he was not from here whereas midwayer Gorman was quite clear about his experience here, particular as it was impacted by Michael's sojourn here.
Tom Newbill wrote:Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:05 AM
My dearest Albequirky:
As scribe of the NW Team, your mild rebuke falls squirrelly upon my shoulders...it must be me. I'm reminded that even in a national spelling bee, there is but one winner...must be you. Your loving comets are dully noted.
Rob wrote: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:25 AM
Thank you! I appreciate your understanding of the situation. In all fairness to the Noth Idaho TeaM, I think it is less a matter of their caring than they, like most others, are not given precise spellings for teacher names as these are our respective domain of influence. That said, I like the idea of using the existing two different spellings only because it is far less time consuming. However, it has been my policy to defer the the local usage, and in this case, it is the N. Idaho TeaM. I am sure I can sort the details of that preference for database purposes.
with grateful appreciation,
Gerdean wrote: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:21 AM
You NEVER spelled it incorrectly. Rob Davis spelled it incorrectly in his Symposium data base. My rebuke, if there is one, would be that of all the gin joints in Casablanca, why he should walk into Ricks. I mean, of all the names in the cosmos, why would a Teacher pick a name that was already in use. That happened before, with one of "my characters", to-wit: What-About-Bob; next thing I knew a Teacher Bob had popped up in Colorado. I just wonder, with all the appelations in the universes of time and space, why use names already in use? It's hard enough to keep track of these characters without duplicating their names. If they were all the same ... like seventeen people transmitting Monjoronson ... at least we know it is the same one-and-only Monjoronson -- unless, of course, it is Serara.
When the cast of characters gets so big, you can't tell the players without a program; hence I was in favor of Rob's proposed system, but I was not scolding you, Tombien. You didn't misspell anything; you did nothing wrong.
Rob wrote: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:45 AM
Your sense of humor is always an encouragement!
I propose, albeit subject to your approval, that we utilize the name "Teacher Gorman" for the lessons attributed to "Gormon" as illustrated here.
Let me know if you think this will suffice to resolve the issue.