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| LOREN: Will, will we be given [[spiritual]] [[perception]] to see our [[progress]]? | | LOREN: Will, will we be given [[spiritual]] [[perception]] to see our [[progress]]? |
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− | WILL: For many [[generations]] on [[your planet]], the [[Heavenly Father]] was seen as a [[celestial]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball_scorekeeping#Scorecards scorekeeper], tallying debits and credits. People lived in [[fear]] of the [[status]] of their [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_sheet balance sheet]. It was a powerful [[motivator]] for good [[behavior]]. Now, in a more [[secular]] time, people fear not their [[God]] and it is to their detriment for His teachings are mighty and the [[force]] of His [[desire]] flattens the cane, but it is true enough, our God counts only the [[talents]] - the credits. You people these days live in a situation that you can only dimly [[value]], for by [[faith]] you [[survive]]. | + | WILL: For many [[generations]] on [[your planet]], the [[Heavenly Father]] was seen as a [[celestial]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball_scorekeeping#Scorecards scorekeeper], tallying debits and credits. People lived in [[fear]] of the [[status]] of their [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_sheet balance sheet]. It was a powerful [[motivator]] for good [[behavior]]. Now, in a more [[secular]] time, people fear not their [[God]] and it is to their detriment for His teachings are mighty and the [[force]] of His [[desire]] flattens the cane, but it is true enough, our God counts only the [[talents]] - the credits. You people these days live in a situation that you can only dimly [[value]], for by [[faith]] you [[survive]]. |
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| None of us [[promise]] that you will see the results of your [[work]]. None of us promise that you will see the [[value]] of your [[work]]. [[Faith]] is asked for this faith which will serve you. When you are so moved by the [[inspiration]] of the [[Indwelling Adjuster]], you may [[demonstrate]] to [[the Father]] the [[strength]] of your [[faith]] by [[service]] to your [[brothers and sisters]]. And so I can say with [[confidence]] that the Father keeps a tally, not for your benefit, but for His and in some way it [[assists]] Him in His [[participation]] in the [[creation]]. But to answer your question more directly, it is [[necessary]] for [[soul progress]] to realize the valuable steps made and so, at some [[point]], yes, you will have the [[insight]] necessary to incorporate the lessons you have learned. Is that [[satisfactory]]? | | None of us [[promise]] that you will see the results of your [[work]]. None of us promise that you will see the [[value]] of your [[work]]. [[Faith]] is asked for this faith which will serve you. When you are so moved by the [[inspiration]] of the [[Indwelling Adjuster]], you may [[demonstrate]] to [[the Father]] the [[strength]] of your [[faith]] by [[service]] to your [[brothers and sisters]]. And so I can say with [[confidence]] that the Father keeps a tally, not for your benefit, but for His and in some way it [[assists]] Him in His [[participation]] in the [[creation]]. But to answer your question more directly, it is [[necessary]] for [[soul progress]] to realize the valuable steps made and so, at some [[point]], yes, you will have the [[insight]] necessary to incorporate the lessons you have learned. Is that [[satisfactory]]? |
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| ===Lesson=== | | ===Lesson=== |
| ===='''''[[Integration]]'''''==== | | ===='''''[[Integration]]'''''==== |
− | Two [[points]] tonight. The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_philosophy philosophers of ancient times] exhaustively [[explored]] the [[relationship]] between man and the [[cosmos]]. But those [[insights]] were not applicable to the living [[circumstances]] of the [[majority]] of [[humans]] alive on [[the planet]] then or now. It was for later [[generations]] of [[thinkers]] to [[explore]] the relationships among men and the relationships of man to [[science]]. Popular [[education]] however neglects the conclusions of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_philosophy teachers of antiquity] and [[concentrates]] only upon those thoughts which enhance the [[productive]] [[capacity]] of human beings through [[science]] and [[materialism]]. It is for your [[generation]] and those which follow to [[harmonize]] the [[insights]] of the [[ancients]] with the insights of the [[moderns]], for neither can stand [[alone]]. Human [[vitality]] will have its [[expression]]. It is clear that, properly [[organized]], humans are capable of tremendous [[productivity]]. Now, in large measure, the [[industrial]] societies have great [[productivity]] yet lack the necessary [[communion]] with [[the Father]] which is a precedent toward [[communion]] and [[communication]] with one another. | + | Two [[points]] tonight. The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_philosophy philosophers of ancient times] exhaustively [[explored]] the [[relationship]] between man and the [[cosmos]]. But those [[insights]] were not applicable to the living [[circumstances]] of the [[majority]] of [[humans]] alive on [[the planet]] then or now. It was for later [[generations]] of [[thinkers]] to [[explore]] the relationships among men and the relationships of man to [[science]]. Popular [[education]] however neglects the conclusions of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_philosophy teachers of antiquity] and [[concentrates]] only upon those thoughts which enhance the [[productive]] [[capacity]] of human beings through [[science]] and [[materialism]]. It is for your [[generation]] and those which follow to [[harmonize]] the [[insights]] of the [[ancients]] with the insights of the [[moderns]], for neither can stand [[alone]]. Human [[vitality]] will have its [[expression]]. It is clear that, properly [[organized]], humans are capable of tremendous [[productivity]]. Now, in large measure, the [[industrial]] societies have great [[productivity]] yet lack the necessary [[communion]] with [[the Father]] which is a precedent toward [[communion]] and [[communication]] with one another. |
| ===='''''[[Pedagogy]]'''''==== | | ===='''''[[Pedagogy]]'''''==== |
| Second point, on a more [[practical]] level. We recommend to you the [[teaching technique]] of [[the master]] who responded to the people he encountered by [[virtue]] of their [[needs]], not his and whose [[goal]] was to provide the maximum [[opportunity]] for [[spiritual]] [[insight]] and advancement which was achievable by that person at that [[moment]]. That is [[service]]. If you do your best to [[adapt]] yourselves to this [[technique]], you will not do wrong. Go forward then and continue our [[exercise]]. Your [[progress]] is approved. | | Second point, on a more [[practical]] level. We recommend to you the [[teaching technique]] of [[the master]] who responded to the people he encountered by [[virtue]] of their [[needs]], not his and whose [[goal]] was to provide the maximum [[opportunity]] for [[spiritual]] [[insight]] and advancement which was achievable by that person at that [[moment]]. That is [[service]]. If you do your best to [[adapt]] yourselves to this [[technique]], you will not do wrong. Go forward then and continue our [[exercise]]. Your [[progress]] is approved. |
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| ===Opening=== | | ===Opening=== |
− | [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Redfield James Redfield], [[author]] of the acclaimed [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Celestine_Prophecy Celestine Prophecy], came to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallahassee,_Florida Tallahassee] to speak. Several members of the [[group]] went to hear the speech. What follows is not meant to be a summary of the speech, but a sampling of [[concepts]] he threw out for [[discussion]]. We have also attempted to accurately [[transcribe]] Will's comments made contemporaneously with Redfield's comments in the face of Eric's cryptic scrawlings on the back of a napkin. There is a margin of error. | + | [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Redfield James Redfield], [[author]] of the acclaimed [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Celestine_Prophecy Celestine Prophecy], came to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallahassee,_Florida Tallahassee] to speak. Several members of the [[group]] went to hear the speech. What follows is not meant to be a summary of the speech, but a sampling of [[concepts]] he threw out for [[discussion]]. We have also attempted to accurately [[transcribe]] Will's comments made contemporaneously with Redfield's comments in the face of Eric's cryptic scrawlings on the back of a napkin. There is a margin of error. |
| ===Dialogue=== | | ===Dialogue=== |
| Redfield: [[Humans]] are only [[energy]]. Everything is only energy. | | Redfield: [[Humans]] are only [[energy]]. Everything is only energy. |
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| Redfield: Humans can somehow store/contain [[energy]]. | | Redfield: Humans can somehow store/contain [[energy]]. |
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− | Will: [[God]]'s [[love]] is truly given to you, to be freely [[shared]] with your [[sisters and brothers]]. Supply is inexhaustible. The only restriction is the [[human]]'s [[ability]] to recover [[composure]] upon [[surprise]] and [[disappointment]] of [[self]]-[[failure]]. Recharge is constant - most expedient way to recharge is to give away - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potlatch potlatch] (Indians of the Southwest have a 'potlatch' when they take all of their material [[goods]] and gather [[together]] and give everything away and end up with other stuff). | + | Will: [[God]]'s [[love]] is truly given to you, to be freely [[shared]] with your [[sisters and brothers]]. Supply is inexhaustible. The only restriction is the [[human]]'s [[ability]] to recover [[composure]] upon [[surprise]] and [[disappointment]] of [[self]]-[[failure]]. Recharge is constant - most expedient way to recharge is to give away - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potlatch potlatch] (Indians of the Southwest have a 'potlatch' when they take all of their material [[goods]] and gather [[together]] and give everything away and end up with other stuff). |
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| Redfield: People are [[responsive]] to special natural [[manifestations]] of [[energy]]. | | Redfield: People are [[responsive]] to special natural [[manifestations]] of [[energy]]. |
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| Redfield: That a [[conversation]] should be conducted in the "best way". | | Redfield: That a [[conversation]] should be conducted in the "best way". |
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− | Will: [This is a comment about the [[desire]] of certain of the people who were asking questions of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Redfield Redfield].] [[Desire]] for a [[leader]] is a [[fear]] based [[behavior]]. Group has [[identity]] separate from [[collective]] membership. [[Concentration]] of [[attentions]] creates multiplier effect of stair-step [[growth]] through ratcheting [[mechanism]]. | + | Will: [This is a comment about the [[desire]] of certain of the people who were asking questions of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Redfield Redfield].] [[Desire]] for a [[leader]] is a [[fear]] based [[behavior]]. Group has [[identity]] separate from [[collective]] membership. [[Concentration]] of [[attentions]] creates multiplier effect of stair-step [[growth]] through ratcheting [[mechanism]]. |
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| Redfield: That [[reincarnation]] or "[[heaven]]" will occur on this [[material]] [[planet]]. | | Redfield: That [[reincarnation]] or "[[heaven]]" will occur on this [[material]] [[planet]]. |