25
edits
Changes
no edit summary
==Heading==
==Heading==
===Topic: ''Machiventa ''Mission Urantia'' 4''===
===Topic: ''Machiventa Mission Urantia 4''===
===Group: [[N. Colorado TeaM]]===
===Group: [[N. Colorado TeaM]]===
==Facilitators==
==Facilitators==
===Teacher: [[Machiventa|Machiventa Melchizedek, Planetary Manager]]===
===Teacher: [[Machiventa|Machiventa Melchizedek, Planetary Manager]]===
===TR: [[John Morris]]===
===TR: [[John Morris]]===
==Session==
==Session==
===Opening===
Prayer by Marthe Muller: God of universes who indwells our human minds. Thought Adjusters,
our beloved eternal companions. Machiventa, Christ Michael, Nebadonia, Beings Without Name
or Number, all the other angelic beings and celestial beings that surround us and that care
about the outcomes of the decisions we make. Thank you so much for our contact with real
spiritual forces. Father of love, thanks for your presence within our human mind. Thanks for
allowing our minds to mother this child, this young soul that we are nurturing between your
Indwelling Spirit and our minds. The world is in a strange place and people feel tension. Most
High Gods, please guide us to be lights to ourselves and to others, to be gentle and kind, to be
able to see the weaknesses in the shortcomings in ourselves and daily work on them in our
conscious contact sessions with you so that we may be of service to others. Thank you for the
lives we've been able to live. And please bring peace and stillness where people experience
sorrow and sadness. We thank you for the space that you have created for beings who have
committed their lives to bringing through the wisdom of our celestial teachers and about our
Indwelling Spirit. Please quiet on minds so that we may understand what needs to happen next.
We are committed to unfolding your divine agenda on this planet at this time. Amen
Deborah: Thank you, Martha. So, let's get down to business and hear from Machiventa with
John TRing.
===Lesson===
===Lesson===
Machiventa: Hello, this is your friend and cohort in this incredible opportunity that is before us.
'''Machiventa:''' Hello, this is your friend and cohort in this incredible opportunity that is before us.
I and my staff have been eagerly observing what you are up to since our last
I and my staff have been eagerly observing what you are up to since our last
session together. We're very pleased to see the devotion and the dedication to this work that
session together. We're very pleased to see the devotion and the dedication to this work that
you represent.
you represent.
I'll just give a brief welcome to you and introduction and then ask you to again, bring questions
I'll just give a brief welcome to you and introduction and then ask you to again, bring questions
to the fore and let's have a conversation. So, I would like to put some context in this work.
to the fore and let's have a conversation. So, I would like to put some context in this work.
growth and of experience. It's no accident that we're created less than perfect as human beings.
growth and of experience. It's no accident that we're created less than perfect as human beings.
That was by design.
That was by design.
Now things that we can't understand throughout the history of the evolution of humanity,
Now things that we can't understand throughout the history of the evolution of humanity,
imagination has always been willing to fill in the blanks. This process is alive even now. As
imagination has always been willing to fill in the blanks. This process is alive even now. As
the lifting of spiritual quarantine and the reconnection of the lines of spiritual energy to this
the lifting of spiritual quarantine and the reconnection of the lines of spiritual energy to this
planet.
planet.
This planet is much observed, much loved. There are many in the Universe of Nebadon who are
This planet is much observed, much loved. There are many in the Universe of Nebadon who are
here to assist this world. There are great resources available. But none of that matters if the
here to assist this world. There are great resources available. But none of that matters if the
down step revelation and upset evolution in the same moment and simply have faith that there
down step revelation and upset evolution in the same moment and simply have faith that there
is a spiritual administration.
is a spiritual administration.
Your great scientist Albert Einstein was once asked that if he could ask one question of the
Your great scientist Albert Einstein was once asked that if he could ask one question of the
universe and have it answered, what would it be? And he said, “I would want to know if the
universe and have it answered, what would it be? And he said, “I would want to know if the
what you know today, how would you answer? Is not the universe teaming with friendliness,
what you know today, how would you answer? Is not the universe teaming with friendliness,
with welcoming, with unconditional divine love?
with welcoming, with unconditional divine love?
It's very hard to see how that can work on this world when you are so far out of step with more
It's very hard to see how that can work on this world when you are so far out of step with more
ordinary, normal worlds. So, we have a great task ahead of us, but great tasks are also great
ordinary, normal worlds. So, we have a great task ahead of us, but great tasks are also great
Now we have before us an opportunity to take this faith and to let it shine such that it becomes
Now we have before us an opportunity to take this faith and to let it shine such that it becomes
an attractive force.
an attractive force.
Think of a dark room. You have one candle, and you go into that room. As your eyes adjust you
Think of a dark room. You have one candle, and you go into that room. As your eyes adjust you
spend time in that one darkened room with one candle. You actually can see exactly how much
spend time in that one darkened room with one candle. You actually can see exactly how much
of light to the dark. Pretty soon there are candles lighting up all over this world. That is the
of light to the dark. Pretty soon there are candles lighting up all over this world. That is the
process we're involved in, to find those who are looking and to help them see that there is
process we're involved in, to find those who are looking and to help them see that there is
hope, there is the possibility for connection, for understanding.
hope, there is the possibility for connection, for understanding.
This is the way forward out of the darkness, out of this rebellion mindset, out of this last gasp of
This is the way forward out of the darkness, out of this rebellion mindset, out of this last gasp of
materialism and greed, desperately hanging on to their positions of power in the status quo. But
materialism and greed, desperately hanging on to their positions of power in the status quo. But
this group of people into a durable [force] that can have an impact far beyond this current
this group of people into a durable [force] that can have an impact far beyond this current
generation.
generation.
I'm delighted to have you along for this journey. We will forever be journeying together for
I'm delighted to have you along for this journey. We will forever be journeying together for
throughout your universe careers, throughout your achievement of the embrace of finality on
throughout your universe careers, throughout your achievement of the embrace of finality on
So let us go forward with patience, with resolve, with joy to do the work that is before us this
So let us go forward with patience, with resolve, with joy to do the work that is before us this
day.
day.
Now I open this conversation to those who have questions, those who may wonder about the
Now I open this conversation to those who have questions, those who may wonder about the
steps along the way. You know I do not answer questions that involve prediction of events. But
steps along the way. You know I do not answer questions that involve prediction of events. But
currently enjoy and have and cultivate them and feel confidence in that you are guided. Thank
currently enjoy and have and cultivate them and feel confidence in that you are guided. Thank
you.
you.
Bob W: Thank you, Machiventa.
===Dialogue===
Machiventa: You're welcome.
Bea: Hi, Machiventa. I really enjoyed your opening. It was very inspiring, and I understand much
'''Bob W:''' Thank you, Machiventa.
'''Machiventa:''' You're welcome.
'''Bea:''' Hi, Machiventa. I really enjoyed your opening. It was very inspiring, and I understand much
of what you said and it was very, very helpful. I have a question that's more a practical one for
of what you said and it was very, very helpful. I have a question that's more a practical one for
myself. I'm going to try to make it as general as possible. How does one as myself, being a low
myself. I'm going to try to make it as general as possible. How does one as myself, being a low
energy person and having some health issues, how does one balance giving my time to help
energy person and having some health issues, how does one balance giving my time to help
humanity and giving my time to my family.
humanity and giving my time to my family.
Machiventa: Thank you, Bea. Now you're in the thick of it of having to make decisions. It's very
'''Machiventa:''' Thank you, Bea. Now you're in the thick of it of having to make decisions. It's very
important that you do balance because your primary relationships in this world teach you about
important that you do balance because your primary relationships in this world teach you about
love, teach you about all the sacrifices necessary for one to serve, in an intimate fashion,
love, teach you about all the sacrifices necessary for one to serve, in an intimate fashion,
children are still under your care. It is sacred work. We certainly support you in doing that.
children are still under your care. It is sacred work. We certainly support you in doing that.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Bea: Thank you, Machiventa.
Marthe: Thank you so much, Machiventa, and thanks to Bea, because I really love your
'''Bea:''' Thank you, Machiventa.
'''Marthe:''' Thank you so much, Machiventa, and thanks to Bea, because I really love your
question. It's something I've been struggling with today. I think 2 or 3 people have said to me,
question. It's something I've been struggling with today. I think 2 or 3 people have said to me,
“Martha, stop doing things for other people.” So, I want to take it one step further because,
“Martha, stop doing things for other people.” So, I want to take it one step further because,
members, so they don’t have enough for themselves, not even enough to make it to the end of
members, so they don’t have enough for themselves, not even enough to make it to the end of
the month.
the month.
So those are obviously things that I feel directly implicated by and burdened by this
So those are obviously things that I feel directly implicated by and burdened by this
responsibility. I know we can't go back and fix it and I know we've been told before to fix things
responsibility. I know we can't go back and fix it and I know we've been told before to fix things
all of that, when you truly can leave that behind you are so much lighter. Then things will
all of that, when you truly can leave that behind you are so much lighter. Then things will
happen around you that you could not possibly predict.
happen around you that you could not possibly predict.
You cannot, when you're put in such a situation that you are in, Marthe, you cannot possibly
You cannot, when you're put in such a situation that you are in, Marthe, you cannot possibly
address every injustice that you see on a daily basis and feel because your heart is so open to
address every injustice that you see on a daily basis and feel because your heart is so open to
best we can of what we think that is. Then we begin to attract others and support them in the
best we can of what we think that is. Then we begin to attract others and support them in the
same thing.
same thing.
So, one open heart at a time. Eventually, you can look forward to a day when that situation will
So, one open heart at a time. Eventually, you can look forward to a day when that situation will
be resolved. But there's no quick fix and there's no easy solution to it. But love will find a way
be resolved. But there's no quick fix and there's no easy solution to it. But love will find a way
through you and that will be adding an immense change in the equation on the side of positive
through you and that will be adding an immense change in the equation on the side of positive
change. Thank you.
change. Thank you.
Marthe: Thank you so much, Machiventa. What a powerful answer. So grateful.
Recca: First of all, thank you, Machiventa, for being here today and for engaging our attention in
'''Marthe:''' Thank you so much, Machiventa. What a powerful answer. So grateful.
'''Recca:''' First of all, thank you, Machiventa, for being here today and for engaging our attention in
this small group. Marthe, I caught your word “implicated.” May I encourage you to consider
this small group. Marthe, I caught your word “implicated.” May I encourage you to consider
yourself not implicated, but implicate in the Father's work here and in the expansion of the
yourself not implicated, but implicate in the Father's work here and in the expansion of the
brothers and sisters as they pass by and being of service to them in their search. Can you speak
brothers and sisters as they pass by and being of service to them in their search. Can you speak
to that?
to that?
Machiventa: Yes. Thank you, Recca. This is Machiventa. The question of how to serve? Who to
'''Machiventa:''' Yes. Thank you, Recca. This is Machiventa. The question of how to serve? Who to
serve? Where to serve? When to serve? Why serve? These are all questions, motivations, and
serve? Where to serve? When to serve? Why serve? These are all questions, motivations, and
curiosities that you have and the resolution to them really comes from your own faith, your own
curiosities that you have and the resolution to them really comes from your own faith, your own
work as a design team, effectively. To do that requires a certain amount of spiritual maturity on
work as a design team, effectively. To do that requires a certain amount of spiritual maturity on
the part of the adherents.
the part of the adherents.
And so, we have in this moment an opportunity to live a life of spiritual understanding with our
And so, we have in this moment an opportunity to live a life of spiritual understanding with our
fellows and certainly with one another, that we can civilly discuss deeply held differences of
fellows and certainly with one another, that we can civilly discuss deeply held differences of
kind and loving presence. Seek her in your stillness practice too. She will be a great comfort to
kind and loving presence. Seek her in your stillness practice too. She will be a great comfort to
you. Thank you.
you. Thank you.
Recca: Thank you very much, Machiventa
Salvatore: As I hear all the communications from different people, different questions come to
'''Recca:''' Thank you very much, Machiventa
'''Salvatore:''' As I hear all the communications from different people, different questions come to
my mind. And I got a lot of questions. I can dominate days of communication. But I want to get
my mind. And I got a lot of questions. I can dominate days of communication. But I want to get
back to what we're doing in the now of the Urantia mission and the former CTAG group and
back to what we're doing in the now of the Urantia mission and the former CTAG group and
Urantia Book which talks about weighted voting on Jerusem where one to a thousand votes and
Urantia Book which talks about weighted voting on Jerusem where one to a thousand votes and
all of service we all get service Points.
all of service we all get service Points.
And here on the material world we're now looking at what we do in the now and of course
And here on the material world we're now looking at what we do in the now and of course
we're all part of contributing to God the Supreme in one way or another. You guys on your side
we're all part of contributing to God the Supreme in one way or another. You guys on your side
just like the rest of us trying to contribute to the development of our planet. I think I said
just like the rest of us trying to contribute to the development of our planet. I think I said
enough.
enough.
Machiventa: Sal, we so appreciate your point of view and your genuine enthusiasm for this
'''Machiventa:''' Sal, we so appreciate your point of view and your genuine enthusiasm for this
work. Thank you. This is Machiventa. Well there's much I can say. And I'll try to say this in a way
work. Thank you. This is Machiventa. Well there's much I can say. And I'll try to say this in a way
that respects all viewpoints. That is sometimes hard even for me. Mission Urantia was originally
that respects all viewpoints. That is sometimes hard even for me. Mission Urantia was originally
would get much traction given the current culture? It's not a rhetorical question, but you can
would get much traction given the current culture? It's not a rhetorical question, but you can
answer it for yourself.
answer it for yourself.
We have to start by finding out what everyone has in common. Sometimes this one will find
We have to start by finding out what everyone has in common. Sometimes this one will find
himself living in a rural area. There are very many diverse points of view in rural America, very
himself living in a rural area. There are very many diverse points of view in rural America, very
to receive infinite unconditional love and then become a clear reflection of it as you grow?
to receive infinite unconditional love and then become a clear reflection of it as you grow?
Salvatore: One personality at a time for sure.
Salvatore: One personality at a time for sure.
Machiventa: That's right. One open heart at a time, one human choice at a time. So, what we
'''Machiventa:''' That's right. One open heart at a time, one human choice at a time. So, what we
want to do is find a common ground we have with people. And the common ground is not
want to do is find a common ground we have with people. And the common ground is not
theology, is not philosophy, is not religiosity, is not thought systems, wisdom traditions. The
theology, is not philosophy, is not religiosity, is not thought systems, wisdom traditions. The
And we will welcome that. But there has to be a way for them to know that this stuff exists. So,
And we will welcome that. But there has to be a way for them to know that this stuff exists. So,
we're hoping that Mission Urantia will be this beacon of light, this place where these values can
we're hoping that Mission Urantia will be this beacon of light, this place where these values can
be explained, where we can demonstrate the living process of how you use these values in a co�creative design in method to achieve sustainable policies that will help this world. It's
be explained, where we can demonstrate the living process of how you use these values in a co-creative
design in method to achieve sustainable policies that will help this world. It's
incremental. It moves much slower than we might like. Yet it has to move at a pace that is real
incremental. It moves much slower than we might like. Yet it has to move at a pace that is real
for all this revelation to get in contact with the evolved status of the people. And then there has
for all this revelation to get in contact with the evolved status of the people. And then there has
with revelations that my team and I are making and bringing into existence on this world
with revelations that my team and I are making and bringing into existence on this world
through conscious contact with you.
through conscious contact with you.
It is like cooking a stew. It just has to cook down, and this is going to take a little time on the
It is like cooking a stew. It just has to cook down, and this is going to take a little time on the
burner. But eventually, we'll get there. At least that's the promise of this possibility. If this group
burner. But eventually, we'll get there. At least that's the promise of this possibility. If this group
also be in default. We will have to continue this process and start again. We do not give up on
also be in default. We will have to continue this process and start again. We do not give up on
our side. We're hoping that this generation will not give up with us either. Thank you.
our side. We're hoping that this generation will not give up with us either. Thank you.
Marthe: Thanks, Machiventa. I have a quick question. You've asked us many times to make your
'''Marthe:''' Thanks, Machiventa. I have a quick question. You've asked us many times to make your
presence known. I've spent a lot of time summarizing, consulting with others, showing what I
presence known. I've spent a lot of time summarizing, consulting with others, showing what I
wrote as a 1,800-word opinion piece. If you and your team have any better suggestions than we
wrote as a 1,800-word opinion piece. If you and your team have any better suggestions than we
should we try and send it out? What is your suggestion about how we can make your presence
should we try and send it out? What is your suggestion about how we can make your presence
known when we've done the work, but it's not clear where it must go? Thank you.
known when we've done the work, but it's not clear where it must go? Thank you.
Machiventa: Yes, thank you, Marthe. There is afoot, several people that are creating websites to
'''Machiventa:''' Yes, thank you, Marthe. There is afoot, several people that are creating websites to
do this with. We have within Mission Urantia some very talented people who can do this kind of
do this with. We have within Mission Urantia some very talented people who can do this kind of
work. So, it is our hope that in the near future there can be developed a robust website and
work. So, it is our hope that in the near future there can be developed a robust website and
and how we are experiencing this as individuals. We need to start to write our own stories and
and how we are experiencing this as individuals. We need to start to write our own stories and
tell people these stories so that they can feel how real people internalize this, create a practice.
tell people these stories so that they can feel how real people internalize this, create a practice.
And then things will grow out of that.
And then things will grow out of that.
You should begin to have people inquire with questions and that allows for groups of people to
You should begin to have people inquire with questions and that allows for groups of people to
take on [the role of] responding to people. You may be asked to be consultants. “How do we
take on [the role of] responding to people. You may be asked to be consultants. “How do we
introduce other purposes to this work before you accomplish these core purposes. And so, if
introduce other purposes to this work before you accomplish these core purposes. And so, if
you look at the process already taking place in this group, you can begin to see other purposes
you look at the process already taking place in this group, you can begin to see other purposes
creeping in that were never really part of what we asked you to do. It's just a matter of self�correcting, refocusing and not worrying about trying to do too much.
creeping in that were never really part of what we asked you to do. It's just a matter of self
correcting, refocusing and not worrying about trying to do too much.
Remember, everybody on this planet of a normal mind (and that's the vast majority of human
Remember, everybody on this planet of a normal mind (and that's the vast majority of human
beings) is indwelt with their own Thought Adjuster. So, it's not like you have to do all this on
beings) is indwelt with their own Thought Adjuster. So, it's not like you have to do all this on
attractive to a lot of people. We have to do that. So we're building it and you guys are doing
attractive to a lot of people. We have to do that. So we're building it and you guys are doing
wonderful work. We're very excited about the work that you're doing.
wonderful work. We're very excited about the work that you're doing.
But never be afraid to take a moment to step back and say, “Wow, we are so into the weeds
But never be afraid to take a moment to step back and say, “Wow, we are so into the weeds
with this, so busy that we need to step back and take a look at everything from a different
with this, so busy that we need to step back and take a look at everything from a different
everyone. Period. No distinctions made between Jew, Gentile, male, female, rich, poor, sick,
everyone. Period. No distinctions made between Jew, Gentile, male, female, rich, poor, sick,
healthy. He loved everyone equally. And that attractive force is still alive in this world today,
healthy. He loved everyone equally. And that attractive force is still alive in this world today,
although in potential in some areas.
although in potential in some areas.
Great progress is to be made if this potential is to be unleashed in this world where everybody
Great progress is to be made if this potential is to be unleashed in this world where everybody
can come together in the spirit of cooperation and work together for the things that we all
can come together in the spirit of cooperation and work together for the things that we all
status quo, but it is actually something new, something original, something real that can help.
status quo, but it is actually something new, something original, something real that can help.
Then this work can grow exponentially. Thank you.
Then this work can grow exponentially. Thank you.
Marthe: Thank you.
Deborah: We've spoken for a long time, but I too have a question. I don't want to go into it too
'''Marthe:''' Thank you.
'''Deborah:''' We've haven't spoken for a long time, but I too have a question. I don't want to go into it too
long, but I’m drawn to the work of Sri Auribindo and his associate called The Mother. I'm
long, but I’m drawn to the work of Sri Auribindo and his associate called The Mother. I'm
reading about the power of our thoughts. And I've already heard about this power not only
reading about the power of our thoughts. And I've already heard about this power not only
anything you can say to help direct me on developing the power of my mind for the good of this
anything you can say to help direct me on developing the power of my mind for the good of this
world I would like to hear from you.
world I would like to hear from you.
Machiventa: Wonderful. Thank you, Deborah. This is Machiventa. These questions that you're
'''Machiventa:''' Wonderful. Thank you, Deborah. This is Machiventa. These questions that you're
asking today, are what we like to talk about with you. How do we grow this ability to manifest
asking today, are what we like to talk about with you. How do we grow this ability to manifest
eventually light and life on this world. But first off, a world that has peace in it--how do we
eventually light and life on this world. But first off, a world that has peace in it--how do we
your attention to it. Somehow you have to design your life to set aside some time for reflection
your attention to it. Somehow you have to design your life to set aside some time for reflection
about the things that you want to see happen.
about the things that you want to see happen.
So you can use your imagination to enhance these thoughts and begin to actually envision. Sit in
So you can use your imagination to enhance these thoughts and begin to actually envision. Sit in
a hot tub with a cup of tea or coffee and let your mind run wild with imagination of how a world
a hot tub with a cup of tea or coffee and let your mind run wild with imagination of how a world
Deborah: Oh, thank you! So just what you said, my Thought Adjuster and I are wanting to
Deborah: Oh, thank you! So just what you said, my Thought Adjuster and I are wanting to
develop the power of my thought, so who else do I go to but my Thought Adjuster.
develop the power of my thought, so who else do I go to but my Thought Adjuster.
Machiventa: Absolutely.
Recca: Where do I go but to the Lord?
'''Machiventa:''' Absolutely.
Machiventa: Well, as you know, there's many, many ideas out there. A good idea is a good idea
'''Recca:''' Where do I go but to the Lord?
'''Machiventa:''' Well, as you know, there's many, many ideas out there. A good idea is a good idea
regardless of its source. Whatever you are attracted to read, to study, you will always find
regardless of its source. Whatever you are attracted to read, to study, you will always find
something in it to help you or you wouldn't be attracted to it. You may not, and you should not
something in it to help you or you wouldn't be attracted to it. You may not, and you should not
take it in, internalize it, see what works for you. Keep the best, leave the rest and move on. It is
take it in, internalize it, see what works for you. Keep the best, leave the rest and move on. It is
your Thought Adjuster that will guide you through that process.
your Thought Adjuster that will guide you through that process.
Deborah: Thank you. Thank you very much, Machiventa. You’ve done a fabulous job of
'''Deborah:''' Thank you. Thank you very much, Machiventa. You’ve done a fabulous job of
answering our questions today.
answering our questions today.
Machiventa: Yeah, you've put many interesting questions on the table. These questions that
===Closing===
'''Machiventa:''' Yeah, you've put many interesting questions on the table. These questions that
have to do with where you are personally in your understanding in your own personal practice,
have to do with where you are personally in your understanding in your own personal practice,
are questions that I'm interested in talking about with you because it is what will take this group
are questions that I'm interested in talking about with you because it is what will take this group