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==Session==

==Session==

===Opening===

===Opening===

Greetings to all who have gathered here tonight. This is I, Welmek, your guide and teacher. Once again I am honored to be in your presence to share with you my thoughts and your thoughts.

Greetings to all who have gathered here tonight. This is I, Welmek, your guide and [[teacher]]. Once again I am [[honored]] to be in your [[presence]] to [[share]] with you my [[thoughts]] and your thoughts.

Much has happened over the past few days since we were together as a group and after the questions I will share with your some coming events. Without further ado, let's begin with our questions for this evening.

Much has happened over the past few days since we were together as a [[group]] and after the questions I will [[share]] with your some coming [[events]]. Without further ado, let's begin with our questions for this evening.

===Dialogue===

===Dialogue===

Q. Good evening, Welmek, this is Marty. When you tell us to listen to our stillness, can you tell us specifically why this is helpful and crucial to our spiritual growth?

Q. Good evening, Welmek, this is Marty. When you tell us to [[listen]] to our [[stillness]], can you tell us specifically why this is helpful and crucial to our [[spiritual growth]]?

A. It gives the spirit fragment within your mind an opportunity to refract into the superconscious mind those messages which your spirit feels necessary for your to be made aware of at your particular point in progress. If you are unable to still your mind completely, which I have observed that most of you are, do not let that interfere with your continued effort; for your spirit is great and registrations on the superconscious level will be made, and you will in time sense what the ideas are. As you become adept in this sensing, for I perceive that most of you have already experienced this at some time in your adult life, you will soon learn how to relax more and in this relaxation you will actually become consciously aware of the inner leading. It is a practice which I on my planet put into full use and within a relatively short amount of time, we were able to achieve actual Adjuster recognition.

A. It gives the [[spirit fragment]] within your [[mind]] an [[opportunity]] to [[refract]] into the [[superconscious]] mind those [[messages]] which your spirit feels [[necessary]] for your to be made [[aware]] of at your particular point in [[progress]]. If you are unable to still your mind completely, which I have [[observed]] that most of you are, do not let that [[interfere]] with your continued [[effort]]; for your spirit is great and registrations on the [[superconscious]] level will be made, and you will in time sense what the [[ideas]] are. As you become [[adept]] in this sensing, for I [[perceive]] that most of you have already [[experienced]] this at some time in your adult life, you will soon learn how to [[relax]] more and in this relaxation you will actually become consciously [[aware]] of the inner [[leading]]. It is a [[practice]] which I on my planet put into full use and within a relatively short amount of time, we were able to achieve actual [[Adjuster]] [[recognition]].

Q. Greetings, Welmek, I'm Jeff. Last time that Jane and I were here, you implied that you had some [[degree]] of [[information]] about Jane and me. I'm curious to know how you, Welmek, teacher and guide of the [[Indianapolis TeaM|Indianapolis group]], have information about Jane and me, who are not regular members of the group.

You will not misinterpret this communication, for there is nothing like it. At first, as I said, it is a sensing or knowing, and later, direct communication will evolve. As your book tells you, there is nothing on your world that will prevent spiritual growth except your own lack of decision. You may, if you so desire and actively, sincerely, and wholeheartedly pursue this course, ultimately achieve fusion. This is something which each individual must deal with themself. However, as you know, there have been a few mortals of your realm who have achieved this in their short life span.

A. [[The Father]] and [[Michael]] have known of your [[potential]] [[participation]] in this program for many years. We have been given a list of those [[candidates]] and were asked to make [[contact]] prior to the actual [[transmission]] of the lessons to make certain determinations on our own as to whom we felt would be the most likely attendees to the session. I have a staff who works with me and reports daily on [[activities]] of the outworkings of most of your lives.

Q. In the last three weeks, I've had two extremely vivid [[dreams]]. My question I guess would be, is your staff in my [[dreams]] somehow?

Q. Greetings, Welmek, I'm Jeff. Last time that Jane and I were here, you implied that you had some degree of information about Jane and me. I'm curious to know how you, Welmek, teacher and guide of the Indianapolis group, have information about Jane and me, who are not regular members of the group.

A. One moment...there is no [[record]] of any [[interaction]] in your [[dream]] state. However, as you are [[aware]], your [[spirit fragment]] does become very [[active]] during this time. It is [[difficult]] for you to know the exact [[meaning]] and content of [[spirit]] [[communication]] during [[dreams]]. [[Urantia Text|The text]] and I both [[admonish]] you not to attribute much to the inner dwelling, for it may mislead or guide you into incorrect thinking. We [[respect]] your [[private]] times, and we do not [[interfere]]. We only [[observe]] when we believe you have allowed us to do so.

Q. Is this apparently sudden [[spiritual pressure]] from above precedented in [[the universe]]?

A. The Father and Michael have known of your potential participation in this program for many years. We have been given a list of those candidates and were asked to make contact prior to the actual transmission of the lessons to make certain determinations on our own as to whom we felt would be the most likely attendees to the session. I have a staff who works with me and reports daily on activities of the outworkings of most of your lives.

A. The outworking of this [[correcting time]] is unlike anything in the entire [[superuniverse]]. We are [[experiencing]] something which, of [[record]] to date, has never been known before. As mentioned last week, once [[Michael]] himself arrives, there will come forth an enlarged [[administration]]; and [[the mission]] will unfold at even a faster [[pace]] that what we are now experiencing.

Q. In the last three weeks, I've had two extremely vivid dreams. My question I guess would be, is your staff in my dreams somehow?

It is important to note that your world is not the only world involved in this. [[Isolated worlds|All worlds that were isolated]] due to the [[rebellion]] are now receiving similar help.

A. One moment...there is no record of any interaction in your dream state. However, as you are aware, your spirit fragment does become very active during this time. It is difficult for you to know the exact meaning and content of spirit communication during dreams. The text and I both admonish you not to attribute much to the inner dwelling, for it may mislead or guide you into incorrect thinking. We respect your private times, and we do not interfere. We only observe when we believe you have allowed us to do so.

Q. One of your replies seems to be suggesting you are able to read my [[thoughts]]. Is that true?

Q. Is this apparently sudden spiritual pressure from above precedented in the universe?

Q. Welmek, this is Johann. When [[Jesus]] spoke to [[the apostles]] following the [[Remembrance Supper]],  he called them his children. And in [[Michael]]'s message to the group on Friday, he called us his children. If we want to [[understand]] how [[the Father]] and [[Michael]] see a [[person]], should we try to [[love]] that [[person]] as though they were our own child?

A. The outworking of this correcting time is unlike anything in the entire superuniverse. We are experiencing something which, of record to date, has never been known before. As mentioned last week, once Michael himself arrives, there will come forth an enlarged administration; and the mission will unfold at even a faster pace that what we are now experiencing.

A. I could not say it better myself. For the [[love]] of the child goes beyond that which is normally [[experienced]] in [[relationships]]. In your life on this world you cannot [[imagine]] anything greater than that of a [[father]] in regards to the [[Creator]] of all. When you associate with [[friends]], think of them as a child of yours. [[Think]] of the [[love]] you [[feel]] for your child, and allow it to [[flow]] from you to that [[individual]]. I [[assure]] you it will truly [[change]] your [[attitude]] in your [[relationship]] with all [[mortals]] if you only try. [[Realize]] that you are not [[perfect]]. I am not perfect. We all continue to make misjudgments. However, [[the Father]] asks that we all try. I ask that you try, as [[the Master]] asks that you try.

Q. Welmek, this is Rick. I find there's a [[change]] in my [[vision]]. Can you comment on that?

 

 

 

 

 

Q. Welmek, this is Rick. I find there's a change in my vision. Can you comment on that?

A. Can you be more specific?

A. Can you be more specific?

Q. Yes. I have a large black spot in the back of my eye.

Q. Yes. I have a large black spot in the back of my eye.

A. I am unaware of any particular effect that any adjustments we may try to make would result in this. However, I will research further and respond later.

A. I am unaware of any particular [[effect]] that any [[adjustments]] we may try to make would result in this. However, I will research further and respond later.

A. As you start life on [[this planet]], whether a [[male]] or [[female]], you will always intrinsically carry that [[trait]] with you throughout your material and [[morontial]] careers. At [[spirit]] level, it is more [[difficult]] to fully discern the [[difference]]. However, those that I have been allowed to [[perceive]], I do still, even in [[spirit]] state, sense somewhat of a [[difference]]. There will always be a difference between a [[man]] and a [[woman]]. However, that difference has no bearing on [[relationships]]. You are all the same in the eyes of [[our Father]]. It is interesting that you noted that, and I was waiting for someone to pick up on that, for it was a [[question]] that I had early on in my [[mortal]] career.

 

A. As you start life on this planet, whether a male or female, you will always intrinsically carry that trait with you throughout your material and morontial careers. At spirit level, it is more difficult to fully discern the difference. However, those that I have been allowed to perceive, I do still, even in spirit state, sense somewhat of a difference. There will always be a difference between a man and a woman. However, that difference has no bearing on relationships. You are all the same in the eyes of our Father. It is interesting that you noted that, and I was waiting for someone to pick up on that, for it was a question that I had early on in my mortal career.

Q. Could I ask for my spiritual name?

Q. Could I ask for my spiritual name?

A. One moment.....this is interesting. Your name is Richard.

A. One moment.....this is interesting. Your name is Richard.

Q. Welmek, this is Scott. The question I have tonight is in regards to UFO phenomena that some people experience in their lives. I was curious if you had any knowledge or any comments on this.

A. I have substantial [[knowledge]]...one moment. I can tell you that as you already know, there are indeed [[visitors]] to your world who hail from many distant places. They do not all [[travel]] the [[gravity circuits]]. There are those who travel in vehicular [[structures]] that you might label spaceships. This is a real [[phenomenon]]. While many of the supposed sightings I [[perceive]] as unreal, there are those who have [[witnessed]] such things.

A. I have substantial knowledge...one moment. I can tell you that as you already know, there are indeed visitors to your world who hail from many distant places. They do not all travel the gravity circuits. There are those who travel in vehicular structures that you might label spaceships. This is a real phenomenon. While many of the supposed sightings I perceive as unreal, there are those who have witnessed such things.

I would like to further [[clarify]] one point and that is, under no circumstances would any [[visitor]] be allowed to take aboard their vehicle and [[experiment]], molest, probe or any of these things. This would be strictly [[forbidden]] and cannot happen. If such [[events]] were to happen, that vehicle and all on board would be sent immediately to a [[detention]] [[sphere]] and would undergo rehabilitation and be offered another [[opportunity]] of [[service]] elsewhere.

I would like to further clarify one point and that is, under no circumstances would any visitor be allowed to take aboard their vehicle and experiment, molest, probe or any of these things. This would be strictly forbidden and cannot happen. If such events were to happen, that vehicle and all on board would be sent immediately to a detention sphere and would undergo rehabilitation and be offered another opportunity of service elsewhere.

Q. Why don't these beings [[reveal]] themselves to us openly?

Q. Why don't these beings reveal themselves to us openly?

A. Why would you think they would not? (group [[laughter]])

A. Why would you think they would not? (group laughter)

Q. I just don't think they have in the [[past]].

Q. I just don't think they have in the past.

Q. Greetings, Welmek, this is Jill. I was reading in one of the [[transcripts]] about the [[Melchizideks]] that are [[visiting]] [[earth]] now, and I wanted to know if you had any more [[information]] about that? Or if one of the beings is going to be visiting Indianapolis soon, or when it's going to happen?

A. That's correct, except for . ... there are occasions which I am not allowed at this point in time to detail. However, I am permitted to say there are occasions throughout the history of this world where such contact was permitted, once accidentally.

A. The [[Melchizideks]] have been here for some time in [[preparation]] for all of these [[proceedings]]. As you know, there will be three who will [[incarnate]] in the [[flesh]] to start the [[Melchizedek Schools|teaching schools]]. [[Machiventa]] himself has spoken I believe three times, either in [[private]] or to the [[group]] collectively. The [[Melchizideks]] are very active. They are our instructors, they are our [[supervisors]]. The lessons that I give you are [[mandated]] by them, and I in turn word them based on my [[perception]] of this [[group]].

Q. Greetings, Welmek, this is Jill. I was reading in one of the transcripts about the Melchizideks that are visiting earth now, and I wanted to know if you had any more information about that? Or if one of the beings is going to be visiting Indianapolis soon, or when it's going to happen?

I really am not [[permitted]] to elaborate in much detail exactly what [[Machiventa]] and his staff are doing. Know that he has told you within a short time there will be [[events]] happening in this [[group]] which he will actually preside over. Look forward to this as I do.

A. The Melchizideks have been here for some time in preparation for all of these proceedings. As you know, there will be three who will incarnate in the flesh to start the teaching schools. Machiventa himself has spoken I believe three times, either in private or to the group collectively. The Melchizideks are very active. They are our instructors, they are our supervisors. The lessons that I give you are mandated by them, and I in turn word them based on my perception of this group.

Q. Hi, Welmek, this is Mary. At one of our early meetings you mentioned at one point there was a multitude of [[personalities]] in the room with us, and that some of these personalities were designated guides. My question is, are these guides [[seraphim]] or are they other beings that we're not [[aware]] of, and are they [[individually]] appointed to each of us or are they sort of like group guides? Just what are they?

I really am not permitted to elaborate in much detail exactly what Machiventa and his staff are doing. Know that he has told you within a short time there will be events happening in this group which he will actually preside over. Look forward to this as I do.

A. You will have [[individual]] assignments made by me. Some will be [[destiny guardians]], while others will have unseen and unrevealed helpers to you at this point in time. This is important that you have specific [[assistance]], for as you [[attune]] yourself to your [[Thought Adjuster|spirit leading you]] will also be attuning yourself to their [[presence]]. And when you are [[engaged]] in an assignment, whenever you find yourself in [[difficulty]], it will be this guide that you will turn to for assistance. This is one of the reasons why it is [[imperative]] for you to seek the [[stillness]] and learn to better [[attune]] yourself to your [[spirit within]].

Q. Welmek, I would like to ask a question on [[clarification]]. When you spoke a moment ago, you spoke about, if I heard you correctly, when [[Michael]] would set up his [[headquarters]] and that would be on [[our planet]], is that for all the [[different]] [[universes]] having headquarters on [[this planet]]? Is this correct?

Q. Hi, Welmek, this is Mary. At one of our early meetings you mentioned at one point there was a multitude of personalities in the room with us, and that some of these personalities were designated guides. My question is, are these guides seraphim or are they other beings that we're not aware of, and are they individually appointed to each of us or are they sort of like group guides? Just what are they?

A. No. [[Michael]] will establish [[headquarters]] here for his particular [[local universe]] to [[assist]] in the [[rehabilitation]] of [[53:7 History of the Rebellion|those worlds that were isolated by the rebellion]]. It has been [[mandated]] by [[the Father]] Himself that all planets in association with this [[rebellion]] will proceed into [[Light and Life]] at an [[accelerated]] [[pace]]. The time for [[misery]] and suffering is within our [[sight]] as far as the end of these things.

A. You will have individual assignments made by me. Some will be destiny guardians, while others will have unseen and unrevealed helpers to you at this point in time. This is important that you have specific assistance, for as you attune yourself to your spirit leading you will also be attuning yourself to their presence. And when you are engaged in an assignment, whenever you find yourself in difficulty, it will be this guide that you will turn to for assistance. This is one of the reasons why it is imperative for you to seek the stillness and learn to better attune yourself to your spirit within.

Q. I would like to say that during the meeting last week I think you mentioned that the [[children]] from [[this planet]] would be able to see [[the Father]] if they chose; it was really [[comforting]] for me to watch the news and watch all the [[suffering]] going on in the world and know that those children are going to a good place and they will be cared for in a way that would be extra-special.

I have one more question. There was [[discussion]] months ago in [[confusion]] with some of the [[transcripts]] coming from other [[groups]] as to [[individuals]] knowing what their spiritual [[names]] are at this point in our [[development]], that they had known that there was a place in the text that said that we would not [[receive]] our spiritual [[names]] until we were more advanced. Are you familiar with this or can you comment on that?

Q. Welmek, I would like to ask a question on clarification. When you spoke a moment ago, you spoke about, if I heard you correctly, when Michael would set up his headquarters and that would be on our planet, is that for all the different universes having headquarters on this planet? Is this correct?

A. I am familiar with this. I would tell you that due to the [[nature]] of [[this mission]], we require your help. And in requiring this help, it has been granted that each of you now be assigned the [[name]] by which your [[soul]] will be known throughout [[eternity]]. It is somewhat unfortunate that you are unable to [[perceive]] the true [[sound]] or know of the real [[meaning]]. However, this designation has been granted. It is a [[change]] from what was given almost 60 years ago. You will find as time goes on that there will be certain [[facts]] within text that will be superseded. This is [[necessary]], for at the time [[Urantia Text|the book]] was written, all [[information]] regarding [[facts]] was accurate. However, time moves forward and [[facts]] are [[relative]] to the time in which they are [[perceived]]. This is not any inconsistency, only an [[adjustment]]. It is regrettable that there are those who refuse to believe in the [[validity]] of what is transpiring based on such [[facts]] differentiations.

Q. I can understand that [[explanation]]. What is my spiritual [[name]]?

 

 

 

 

Q. I can understand that explanation. What is my spiritual name?

A. Your name is Lucinda, L-U-C-I-N-D-A.

A. Your name is Lucinda, L-U-C-I-N-D-A.

A. [[Adversity]] is [[necessary]] in order to [[achieve]] [[wisdom]], for in [[understanding]] the [[decisions]] that you make you [[grow]]; and as you grow in this [[understanding]], through [[wisdom]] you [[achieve]] spiritual [[insight]]. It is regrettable that so many on [[this planet]] seem to need to go over the same thing time and time again. We do not fully [[understand]] this. It is as though you hurt yourself and need to do it again before you [[realize]] you're in [[pain]].

 

A. Adversity is necessary in order to achieve wisdom, for in understanding the decisions that you make you grow; and as you grow in this understanding, through wisdom you achieve spiritual insight. It is regrettable that so many on this planet seem to need to go over the same thing time and time again. We do not fully understand this. It is as though you hurt yourself and need to do it again before you realize you're in pain.

I can tell you that you are very fortunate, however, for with the amount of adversity that faces you, you also have a great amount of opportunity. This opportunity is what many of beings on our side are somewhat envious, if you will, in as much as you have ample opportunity each day to be in the service of the Father. You do not necessarily need to volunteer for assignments, you have many right in front of you. Learn from this, and especially as you progress on the morontial worlds, you will look back and thank the Father for the life that you now have.

I can tell you that you are very fortunate, however, for with the amount of [[adversity]] that faces you, you also have a great amount of [[opportunity]]. This opportunity is what many of [[beings]] on our side are somewhat [[envious]], if you will, in as much as you have ample [[opportunity]] each day to be in the [[service]] of [[the Father]]. You do not necessarily need to [[volunteer]] for assignments, you have many right in front of you. [[Learn]] from this, and especially as you [[progress]] on the [[morontial]] worlds, you will look back and thank [[the Father]] for the life that you now have.

Q. If we are talking to someone with whom are having a certain level of adversity in their life and trying to talk to them about the way out of it through the Father, could you offer some suggestions on how to approach that, or is that individual for everyone? There are so many people that we know that are in pain and we're trying to help them because we are beginning to find a new life and we want to share that with them too. It's just so difficult reaching people if they're not ready for it. Are there some ways in which we can try to perceive at which point we can make a little bit of an entry way?

Q. If we are talking to someone with whom are having a certain level of adversity in their life and trying to talk to them about the way out of it through the Father, could you offer some suggestions on how to approach that, or is that individual for everyone? There are so many people that we know that are in pain and we're trying to help them because we are beginning to find a new life and we want to share that with them too. It's just so difficult reaching people if they're not ready for it. Are there some ways in which we can try to perceive at which point we can make a little bit of an entry way?