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Northwest Teaching Mission Gathering
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Teachers: Melchizedek Panel
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Machiventa, Malvantra, Rantarason, Lantarnek, Minearisa, Daranadek, Norson, [Ham]
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Topic: Melchizedek Schools on Urantia
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Saturday morning,  June 21, 1997
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==Heading==
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===Topic: ''Melchizedek Schools on Urantia''===
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===Group: [[NW TeaM Conference]]===
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==Facilitators==
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===Teacher: [[Machiventa]], [[Malvantra]], [[Rantarason]], [[Lantarnek]], [[Minearsia|Minearisa]], [[Darandadek]], [[Norson]], [[Ham]]===
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===TR: [[Thea Hardy]], [[Bill K.]], [[Sheila]], [[Jonathan|Rick Giles]], [[Mark]], [[Nancy]], [[Bob Devine]]===
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==Session==
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===Opening===
 
[Several of the questions posed during this session were inaudible on the tape and have been derived here from notes. ed.]
 
[Several of the questions posed during this session were inaudible on the tape and have been derived here from notes. ed.]
    
Machiventa (Thea): Greetings, I am Machiventa, and I would like to introduce to you this panel today which we requested.
 
Machiventa (Thea): Greetings, I am Machiventa, and I would like to introduce to you this panel today which we requested.
 
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===Lesson===
 
I would like you to think about your work here at this time in the Teaching Mission in another manner, as adventures in Supreme building. You know that your first interactivity responsibility is between you and the Father. But today I would like to focus this discussion on your interactivity between one another. You are building experience in your groups, learning the ways to function together and how love works together to create the spaces and shapes of your joint service to one another. If you think of the Supreme it is the perfect aggregate information. As you are here and now, you are learning in the smaller ways of the formation of the systems of loving one another. You have noticed that there are different configurations shifting and changing, forming and reforming within your group structure. We would like to help you become, not alarmed by these changes, but excited and enthused in understanding that the freedom to explore these developing relationships of love with one another and increasing their effectiveness will only strengthen any group aspect that you have, including the northwest group itself.
 
I would like you to think about your work here at this time in the Teaching Mission in another manner, as adventures in Supreme building. You know that your first interactivity responsibility is between you and the Father. But today I would like to focus this discussion on your interactivity between one another. You are building experience in your groups, learning the ways to function together and how love works together to create the spaces and shapes of your joint service to one another. If you think of the Supreme it is the perfect aggregate information. As you are here and now, you are learning in the smaller ways of the formation of the systems of loving one another. You have noticed that there are different configurations shifting and changing, forming and reforming within your group structure. We would like to help you become, not alarmed by these changes, but excited and enthused in understanding that the freedom to explore these developing relationships of love with one another and increasing their effectiveness will only strengthen any group aspect that you have, including the northwest group itself.
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Thank you for this opportunity to speak with you. As with the other panelists, I am available for questions, comments, or discussion at any time.
 
Thank you for this opportunity to speak with you. As with the other panelists, I am available for questions, comments, or discussion at any time.
 
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===Dialogue===
 
Harry: (Are there any Melchizedeks currently in physical form?)
 
Harry: (Are there any Melchizedeks currently in physical form?)
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The relationship between creation and preservation is where you will find integration. As you can recognize that which is ego, that which is personality expression, you then have the basis for forming a healthy relationship within yourself. Thereby you will find the freedom to relate in a healthy manner with others. Honestly, one cannot come before the other, although it is in your relations with others that you are to find witness to the characteristics of your being. In an isolated manner you cannot understand personality and ego and all of the nuances therein.
 
The relationship between creation and preservation is where you will find integration. As you can recognize that which is ego, that which is personality expression, you then have the basis for forming a healthy relationship within yourself. Thereby you will find the freedom to relate in a healthy manner with others. Honestly, one cannot come before the other, although it is in your relations with others that you are to find witness to the characteristics of your being. In an isolated manner you cannot understand personality and ego and all of the nuances therein.
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Delores: (Are you talking about trust in sharing who we are? How do we get this trust, to be honest? I guess it is faith.) *
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Delores: (Are you talking about trust in sharing who we are? How do we get this trust, to be honest? I guess it is faith.)  
    
Norson: Yes. Is there more?
 
Norson: Yes. Is there more?
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Malvantra (Bill): This is Malvantra. I wish to respond to Harry's original question and perhaps throw a monkey wrench into the works.
 
Malvantra (Bill): This is Malvantra. I wish to respond to Harry's original question and perhaps throw a monkey wrench into the works.
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You have now heard from two sources and more, totally different statements in regard to your question. Several years ago, as you know, another TR representing Norson did state that there were Melchizedeks in physical form. Today another TR representing Norson has said the opposite. You are now faced with this dilemma: what to believe? My commentary is simply to point out to you that you must in this case, as in many cases, rely upon your own judgement as to whether or not you think it is likely or true that the Melchizedeks, some of them, have mate realized or not. For now you have a clear case of disagreement from different TR sources. Therefore, you have to exercise your own faith. I will not say otherwise or further in regards to your question.
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You have now heard from two sources and more, totally different statements in regard to your question. Several years ago, as you know, another TR representing Norson did state that there were Melchizedeks in physical form. Today another TR representing Norson has said the opposite. You are now faced with this dilemma: what to believe? My commentary is simply to point out to you that you must in this case, as in many cases, rely upon your own judgement as to whether or not you think it is likely or true that the Melchizedeks, some of them, have materialized or not. For now you have a clear case of disagreement from different TR sources. Therefore, you have to exercise your own faith. I will not say otherwise or further in regards to your question.
    
I am finished.
 
I am finished.
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So, my answer to you today is to do that sometimes very difficult work of coming to know yourself, to recognize when it is your ego functioning and when it is your personality functioning in adherence to spirit. Let me ask you this: Which voice is it that says, "That's your ego! You get that ego out of the way!" ? Indeed, that is the voice of ego. So, you cannot force your ego into submission, but you can love your ego into the proper functioning with the personality. You can understand that the ego is there for particular reasons, that the ego has purpose. The ego needs to be recognized; the ego has fears. Love that ego. Calm the ego's fears. Allow the ego the protection it needs to be quieted. Do not allow one of the many heads of the ego to get into war with one of the other many heads of the ego.
 
So, my answer to you today is to do that sometimes very difficult work of coming to know yourself, to recognize when it is your ego functioning and when it is your personality functioning in adherence to spirit. Let me ask you this: Which voice is it that says, "That's your ego! You get that ego out of the way!" ? Indeed, that is the voice of ego. So, you cannot force your ego into submission, but you can love your ego into the proper functioning with the personality. You can understand that the ego is there for particular reasons, that the ego has purpose. The ego needs to be recognized; the ego has fears. Love that ego. Calm the ego's fears. Allow the ego the protection it needs to be quieted. Do not allow one of the many heads of the ego to get into war with one of the other many heads of the ego.
 
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===Closing===
 
Love is indeed the answer. Self love is crucial, loving your ego, loving God, loving your creative expression, and through this giving loving service. This is what changes the systems in which you function. It is through self focus that you become unselfish. This sounds paradoxical, yet it is the only thing that will change these patterns of functioning.
 
Love is indeed the answer. Self love is crucial, loving your ego, loving God, loving your creative expression, and through this giving loving service. This is what changes the systems in which you function. It is through self focus that you become unselfish. This sounds paradoxical, yet it is the only thing that will change these patterns of functioning.
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Minearisa: You are most welcome.
 
Minearisa: You are most welcome.
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[[Category: The Teaching Mission: Dialogues]]
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[[Category: NW TeaM Conference]]
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[[Category: Machiventa]]
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[[Category: Malvantra]]
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[[Category: Rantarason]]
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[[Category: Lantarnek]]
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[[Category: Minearsia]]
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[[Category: Darandadek]]
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[[Category: Norson]]
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[[Category: Ham]]
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[[Category: Thea Hardy]]
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[[Category: Bill K.]]
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[[Category: Sheila]]
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[[Category: Jonathan]]
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[[Category: Mark]]
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[[Category: Nancy]]
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[[Category: Bob D.]]
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[[Category: 2004]]

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