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| Daniel (Bill): Thank you, Kenneth. I was trying to be a little light-hearted [[hoping]] you would see some [[humor]] in my reference to Abraham’s ability to [[command]] and get [[attention]] to get things done, but none of you jumped at the bait. [Laughter.] | | Daniel (Bill): Thank you, Kenneth. I was trying to be a little light-hearted [[hoping]] you would see some [[humor]] in my reference to Abraham’s ability to [[command]] and get [[attention]] to get things done, but none of you jumped at the bait. [Laughter.] |
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− | Ken: Well, he is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_star_general five star general]. [More laughter.] | + | Ken: Well, he is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_star_general five star general]. [More laughter.] |
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| Daniel (Bill): True, but I am pleased that this assignment was not taken less seriously because it will [[assist]] us all in our [[process]] together. | | Daniel (Bill): True, but I am pleased that this assignment was not taken less seriously because it will [[assist]] us all in our [[process]] together. |
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| Bob: I’m not sure. | | Bob: I’m not sure. |
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− | Minearsia (Bill/Isaac): My [[thought]] is that people often fail to [[learn]] because they fail to [[practice]]. Sometimes a person can say to themselves, "Well, I’ve heard all of these [[strange]] notions and I don’t know whether there is a lot of [[value]] in them. I don’t know whether I want to put forth the [[effort]]"; only then to later [[complain]] it just didn’t work for them. You see, if you knew ahead of time the new thing that you need to learn, in a sense you wouldn’t have to learn it. So it’s the application; it’s the [[practice]] that is needed. Isaac is thinking of a case in point. He had a child in the second grade who wanted to learn [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar guitar]. This boy thought that he could pick up that instrument and in a matter of a hours be able to [[play]] at least well enough to sound like his teacher, to some degree. Weeks and weeks of futile lessons were given by the teacher, Isaac. The boy did not [[practice]]. Guess what? He made no [[progress]]. Therefor, I say that perhaps this might be the [[problem]]. I am not saying that it is necessarily the problem. I am just suggesting that it may be. | + | Minearsia (Bill/Isaac): My [[thought]] is that people often fail to [[learn]] because they fail to [[practice]]. Sometimes a person can say to themselves, "Well, I’ve heard all of these [[strange]] notions and I don’t know whether there is a lot of [[value]] in them. I don’t know whether I want to put forth the [[effort]]"; only then to later [[complain]] it just didn’t work for them. You see, if you knew ahead of time the new thing that you need to learn, in a sense you wouldn’t have to learn it. So it’s the application; it’s the [[practice]] that is needed. Isaac is thinking of a case in point. He had a child in the second grade who wanted to learn [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar guitar]. This boy thought that he could pick up that instrument and in a matter of a hours be able to [[play]] at least well enough to sound like his teacher, to some degree. Weeks and weeks of futile lessons were given by the teacher, Isaac. The boy did not [[practice]]. Guess what? He made no [[progress]]. Therefor, I say that perhaps this might be the [[problem]]. I am not saying that it is necessarily the problem. I am just suggesting that it may be. |
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| Bob: When we are dealing with [[spiritual growth]] though, the [[evidence]] of one’s [[progress]] is not clear—to the person himself. So that complicates the whole thing because you don’t get clear [[feedback]]. You wonder, "Am I making progress?" It seems like we are going over the same old stuff. What would you say to those words? | | Bob: When we are dealing with [[spiritual growth]] though, the [[evidence]] of one’s [[progress]] is not clear—to the person himself. So that complicates the whole thing because you don’t get clear [[feedback]]. You wonder, "Am I making progress?" It seems like we are going over the same old stuff. What would you say to those words? |