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− | Matthew: Just one, that concerns me somewhat (but less than it did 20 years ago). The [[Urantia Book]] says that we are to work toward [[unity]] but not [[uniformity]]. Do you see in our lifetimes perhaps, in relation to [[light and life]] being created, at least [[Christianity]] coming closer together, in terms of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_Christianity Pauline dominance] that exists now as a [[perspective]] on Christianity? For it to come any closer to the message that Jesus had originally--, prior to Paul's entry into it? In other words, the blood [[sacrifice]] dominance that exists. Is it possible in our lives yet that that would be lessened, and we will turn more toward a brotherly love perspective? That's the question. Or is that so far off in the distance it's all we can strive to contribute to its change, ultimately? | + | Matthew: Just one, that concerns me somewhat (but less than it did 20 years ago). The [[Urantia Book]] says that we are to work toward [[unity]] but not [[uniformity]]. Do you see in our lifetimes perhaps, in relation to [[light and life]] being created, at least [[Christianity]] coming closer together, in terms of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_Christianity Pauline dominance] that exists now as a [[perspective]] on Christianity? For it to come any closer to the message that Jesus had originally--, prior to Paul's entry into it? In other words, the blood [[sacrifice]] dominance that exists. Is it possible in our lives yet that that would be lessened, and we will turn more toward a brotherly love perspective? That's the question. Or is that so far off in the distance it's all we can strive to contribute to its change, ultimately? |
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− | TOMAS: All this will depend upon how you [[perceive]] the impact of the [[church]] and the importance of the church's [[participation]] in the [[evolution]] of your world. The church is undergoing tremendous labor pains. "The church" -- I am using in terms of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_Christianity Pauline philosophies] that you regard as your cultural [[heritage]] and religious [[training]], for the most part. These labor pains are suffering a natural result of the need for yet more [[revelation]] of the [[reality of God]] to inject a greater dimension of [[divine]] reality into that organized format which man demands as an avenue of [[adulation]]. And so as humanity comes forth from the [[darkness]], so must the church. | + | TOMAS: All this will depend upon how you [[perceive]] the impact of the [[church]] and the importance of the church's [[participation]] in the [[evolution]] of your world. The church is undergoing tremendous labor pains. "The church" -- I am using in terms of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_Christianity Pauline philosophies] that you regard as your cultural [[heritage]] and religious [[training]], for the most part. These labor pains are suffering a natural result of the need for yet more [[revelation]] of the [[reality of God]] to inject a greater dimension of [[divine]] reality into that organized format which man demands as an avenue of [[adulation]]. And so as humanity comes forth from the [[darkness]], so must the church. |
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| Thus, there will be poles pulling the [[paradigm]] of church-religion in many directions, and the [[traditionalists]] will become yet more [[consolidated]] and the living God will be the [[catalyst]] which allows the many more [[progressive]] [[sects]] to relinquish their hold on traditional religion in an attempt to [[embrace]] a broader [[spectrum]] of [[humanity]] that might also want to join in the song of praise for [[life]], [[love]] and [[laughter]]. | | Thus, there will be poles pulling the [[paradigm]] of church-religion in many directions, and the [[traditionalists]] will become yet more [[consolidated]] and the living God will be the [[catalyst]] which allows the many more [[progressive]] [[sects]] to relinquish their hold on traditional religion in an attempt to [[embrace]] a broader [[spectrum]] of [[humanity]] that might also want to join in the song of praise for [[life]], [[love]] and [[laughter]]. |
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− | There is great [[progress]] being made in that direction now, as I see it. And you are certainly contributing to this [[process]] by adding to the living [[legacy]] of love rather than fostering [[fear]] through holding fast to those judgmental constraints that have become an albatross around the neck of the church, weighing them down into a crystallized presentation of [[pattern]]. Which pattern offers an original point of [[reference]], which even includes the sanctity of religion and the treasures of [[history]]; it is an [[icon]] of an age that fostered the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_christianity reality of Jesus for 2000 years] between the fourth and [[Urantia Text|fifth revelation]]s to mankind. Church literally will become a [[shrine]]. But the rivers of earth will run with [[living water]]s, set free to follow on the winds of [[change]], until such time as the Divine is allowed to lead [[humanity]] into the future it has destined, of which you are a part. | + | There is great [[progress]] being made in that direction now, as I see it. And you are certainly contributing to this [[process]] by adding to the living [[legacy]] of love rather than fostering [[fear]] through holding fast to those judgmental constraints that have become an albatross around the neck of the church, weighing them down into a crystallized presentation of [[pattern]]. Which pattern offers an original point of [[reference]], which even includes the sanctity of religion and the treasures of [[history]]; it is an [[icon]] of an age that fostered the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_christianity reality of Jesus for 2000 years] between the fourth and [[Urantia Text|fifth revelation]]s to mankind. Church literally will become a [[shrine]]. But the rivers of earth will run with [[living water]]s, set free to follow on the winds of [[change]], until such time as the Divine is allowed to lead [[humanity]] into the future it has destined, of which you are a part. |
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− | Thus, the [[Church]] will never disappear, anymore than the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sistine_Chapel Sistine Chapel] will disappear or the other [[monumental]] works of art man has created in [[homage]] to God and his [[relationship]] thereto. Much as a sacred [[museum]] provides a [[perspective]], thus too will the Christian church, in due time. It is, you know, honored and preserved by the [[angels of the churches]]. They are not the [[enemy]]. They are a force of advancing [[spiritual evolution]] for your world as you are and as we are. | + | Thus, the [[Church]] will never disappear, anymore than the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sistine_Chapel Sistine Chapel] will disappear or the other [[monumental]] works of art man has created in [[homage]] to God and his [[relationship]] thereto. Much as a sacred [[museum]] provides a [[perspective]], thus too will the Christian church, in due time. It is, you know, honored and preserved by the [[angels of the churches]]. They are not the [[enemy]]. They are a force of advancing [[spiritual evolution]] for your world as you are and as we are. |
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| We will have our [[impact]] in the [[future]], whereas their impact has been in the [[past]]. In time in may be [[anticipated]] that we, too, will become [[relics]], that what we represent today will be a part of the [[history]] of the advancing spirit reality of [[this planet]]. But the [[fact]] remains, we will have contributed to the advancement of spirit reality and this is the [[destiny]] of all [[the worlds]] of [[time and space]] - to [[reveal]] God and his nature - as you can and as you know how. As you enjoy today. Is this addressing your concern, Matthew? | | We will have our [[impact]] in the [[future]], whereas their impact has been in the [[past]]. In time in may be [[anticipated]] that we, too, will become [[relics]], that what we represent today will be a part of the [[history]] of the advancing spirit reality of [[this planet]]. But the [[fact]] remains, we will have contributed to the advancement of spirit reality and this is the [[destiny]] of all [[the worlds]] of [[time and space]] - to [[reveal]] God and his nature - as you can and as you know how. As you enjoy today. Is this addressing your concern, Matthew? |