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LinEL This is true. If you think about it, this is a good example as to why this trait has developed. I do have the capacity to speak to more than one person. However, I do have [[limits]] - my [[attention]] is still divided and therefore cannot be in its full [[intensity]].
 
LinEL This is true. If you think about it, this is a good example as to why this trait has developed. I do have the capacity to speak to more than one person. However, I do have [[limits]] - my [[attention]] is still divided and therefore cannot be in its full [[intensity]].
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Dan: You suggested several times to just speak our [[thoughts]] as to the [[angels]], or to you, speak to you during the week. Do you hear us even when you are not [[physically]] sort of, to speak, present, or should we just take the [[chances]], hoping some of the time we will be heard some of the times, maybe get some [[psychological]] benefit in the [[process]] anyway?
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Dan: You suggested several times to just speak our [[thoughts]] as to the [[angels]], or to you, speak to you during the week. Do you hear us even when you are not [[physically]] sort of, to speak, present, or should we just take the [[chances]], hoping some of the time we will be heard some of the times, maybe get some psychological benefit in the process anyway?
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LinEL: You are all somewhat [[linked]] to me. When you [[think]] of me or any of [[the teachers]] in your area we do hear you at all times. It is, as an [[example]], an alarm goes off and we [[recognize]] that you require our [[attention]]. ([[Laughter]])
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LinEL: You are all somewhat linked to me. When you think of me or any of the teachers in your area we do hear you at all times. It is, as an example, an alarm goes off and we recognize that you require our attention. (Laughter)
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Dan: Are you speaking or do you speak with us as if from some clearing house, at a distance, or when these [[meetings]] occur are you actually here, or if I am down where I live and [[speaking]] to you, are you there, or is it just an (?) sort of thing. (Laughter)
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Dan: Are you speaking or do you speak with us as if from some clearing house, at a distance, or when these meetings occur are you actually here, or if I am down where I live and speaking to you, are you there, or is it just an (?) sort of thing. (Laughter)
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LinEL: Dan, this [[question]] has come up before and I sense now that I [[explained]] it inadequately. We do not see [[space]] in the same way that you do. When you are there, or you are here, you are still "here". We are more near when all of you are gathered, and again I say that "here", "near", "far", - "there" or "here" still does not do the [[concept]] justice of how our [[space]] relations work. It is nor unsimilar to your own, it is just [[different]]. It is on , as an example, different [[time]] schedules. I know this probably serves to [[confuse]] you more. My teaching staff is based centrally that we may [[access]] all of you more easily. We do [[share]] this, as you would put it, with other teaching staffs that are based in this valley. Again I stress that the [[idea]] of where we are is still not "here" nor "there". If we are here with you, we are here with you. We are not somewhere else speaking to you remotely, although where we reside, our [[leisure]] time, is not here.
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LinEL: Dan, this question has come up before and I sense now that I explained it inadequately. We do not see space in the same way that you do. When you are there, or you are here, you are still "here". We are more near when all of you are gathered, and again I say that "here", "near", "far", - "there" or "here" still does not do the concept justice of how our space relations work. It is nor unsimilar to your own, it is just different. It is on , as an example, different time schedules. I know this probably serves to confuse you more. My teaching staff is based centrally that we may access all of you more easily. We do share this, as you would put it, with other teaching staffs that are based in this valley. Again I stress that the idea of where we are is still not "here" nor "there". If we are here with you, we are here with you. We are not somewhere else speaking to you remotely, although where we reside, our leisure time, is not here.
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Dan: [[Speaking]] of this, I think you have spoken of not really being [[aware]] of the [[material]] world but through our [[experience]]. Is it fun for you for us to purposefully . .. to show you things, [[share]] with you our [[experiences]]? Are you able to do that?
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Dan: Speaking of this, I think you have spoken of not really being aware of the material world but through our experience. Is it fun for you for us to purposefully . .. to show you things, share with you our experiences? Are you able to do that?
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LinEL: When you do this with us, it is [[sharing]] yourself, sharing yourself on the most basic level. To see the world through your eyes is to see how you view the world. We do [[experience]] your
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world on our own terms. However, it does not hold the [[meaning]] it does for us when we view through your own eyes. We see a tree. We may have something to [[compare]] it to through our own [[experiences]]. We look at it as perhaps a [[curiosity]]. We see its [[energies]] beyond the visible [[spectrum]], so in that respect we see more of the tree than you do. However, to see the tree through your eyes is to put it into [[context]] in your own life and this gives it [[meaning]] for us because
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it is meaningful to you, and [[understanding]] that [[meaning]], we come to understand you better. Does this serve to [[explain]]? Dan: Thank you, LinEL
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LinEL: When you do this with us, it is sharing yourself, sharing yourself on the most basic level. To see the world through your eyes is to see how you view the world. We do experience your
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LinEL: It is useful for me to [[struggle]] with difficult [[concepts]] when [[language]] is a [[barrier]]. This serves to teach us also how to [[communicate]] better with you. When I ask "is there more, do you [[understand]]?", I do truly ask for [[clarification]] - perhaps that you have [[understood]], or if you require more [[information]], or if I have [[simply]] misunderstood you. It is possible that I do this.
world on our own terms. However, it does not hold the meaning it does for us when we view through your own eyes. We see a tree. We may have something to compare it to through our own experiences. We look at it as perhaps a curiosity. We see its energies beyond the visible spectrum, so in that respect we see more of the tree than you do. However, to see the tree through your eyes is to put it into context in your own life and this gives it meaning for us because
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it is meaningful to you, and understanding that meaning, we come to understand you better. Does this serve to explain? Dan: Thank you, LinEL
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LinEL: It is useful for me to struggle with difficult concepts when language is a barrier. This serves to teach us also how to communicate better with you. When I ask "is there more, do you understand?", I do truly ask for clarification - perhaps that you have understood, or if you require more information, or if I have simply misunderstood you. It is possible that I do this.
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Delores: LinEL, if you could try to [[describe]] something for me. You said you can sense how we [[perceive]] our world, if we see the trees, do you see the trees the way we see the trees? What I have been [[wondering]] lately is how to receive things. It seems easier for people on [[this planet]] to give than to receive, and when it seems I cannot [[receive]] as well as I can give and it comes from a place like there is a dead end or [[feelings]] are blunted or it stops. So what is it like to [[receive]] something fully?
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Delores: LinEL, if you could try to describe something for me. You said you can sense how we perceive our world, if we see the trees, do you see the trees the way we see the trees? What I have been wondering lately is how to receive things. It seems easier for people on this planet to give than to receive, and when it seems I cannot receive as well as I can give and it comes from a place like there is a dead end or feelings are blunted or it stops. So what is it like to receive something fully?
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LinEL: An interesting question. You only know your world as you know it. You have no other [[experiences]]. We do have several other experiences with many [[other worlds]]. It is easier for us to view the tree through your eyes and [[understand]] the [[differences]]. It is difficult for you to receive this [[information]] the way we do, in the [[manner]] that you speak, but it is possible for you to attempt. I [[assume]] you speak of perhaps meeting another, a [[friend]] and attempting to [[understand]] their own world as they view it. Am I correct in this [[assumption]]?
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Delores: I am not sure. That is not what I was [[thinking]] specifically. I was thinking of being able to open my [[heart]] and [[receiving]] a gift or an [[appreciation]] for someone.  
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LinEL: An interesting question. You only know your world as you know it. You have no other experiences. We do have several other experiences with many other worlds. It is easier for us to view the tree through your eyes and understand the differences. It is difficult for you to receive this information the way we do, in the manner that you speak, but it is possible for you to attempt. I assume you speak of perhaps meeting another, a friend and attempting to understand their own world as they view it. Am I correct in this assumption?
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LinEL: I [[understand]] you question now.  
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Delores: I am not sure. That is not what I was thinking specifically. I was thinking of being able to open my heart and receiving a gift or an appreciation for someone. LinEL: I understand you question now. Thea: This is difficult for more than one us, LinEL
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Thea: This is [[difficult]] for more than one us, LinEL
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LinEL: I do understand. It is difficult for the receiver also. To receive a gift, receive a compliment is to bring up for you each your feelings of inadequacy, feelings of insecurity. The gift is given in pure kindness to you. This often unfortunately triggers these feeling of inadequacy. You think, why did you give this to me, I am undeserving of it, you do not understand, how unworthy I am. What you can attempt to do is to for a moment try to see yourself through the others eyes. They give you this gift, they admire you. Try to understand who they see you as. This is a vicarious way to understand yourself better. You spend much time looking inward, trying to better understand yourselves. Sometimes you have no from of reference, no parameter, you are who you are. You do not have anything to compare to. Just for a moment, indulging yourself in the other's perception will begin to give you the insights you need to be able to receive the gift better, to be able to receive a compliment better. Also I would suggest that when these feelings of inadequacy come up, when a gift is given to you that you do not feel deserving of, pass the credit on to the Father. Say to him, "Thank you for giving me talents and skills that this person sees in me". In passing on this responsibility, it will allow you to make a better connection with the Father, but to also begin to understand the nature of thanks.
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LinEL: I do understand. It is difficult for the [[receiver]] also. To receive a gift, receive a compliment is to bring up for you each your [[feelings]] of inadequacy, feelings of insecurity. The gift is given in pure [[kindness]] to you. This often unfortunately triggers these feeling of inadequacy. You [[think]], why did you give this to me, I am undeserving of it, you do not [[understand]], how [[unworthy]] I am. What you can attempt to do is to for a [[moment]] try to see yourself through the others eyes. They give you this [[gift]], they admire you. Try to [[understand]] who they see you as. This is a vicarious way to understand yourself better. You spend much time looking inward, trying to better understand yourselves. Sometimes you have no [[frame of reference]], no [[parameter]], you are who you are. You do not have anything to [[compare]] to. Just for a moment, indulging yourself in the other's [[perception]] will begin to give you the [[insights]] you need to be able to [[receive]] the gift better, to be able to receive a compliment better. Also I would suggest that when these [[feelings]] of inadequacy come up, when a gift is given to you that you do not feel deserving of, pass the credit on to [[the Father]]. Say to him, "Thank you for giving me [[talents]] and [[skills]] that this person sees in me". In passing on this [[responsibility]], it will allow you to make a better [[connection]] with [[the Father]], but to also begin to [[understand]] the [[nature]] of thanks.
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Delores: That was very well done for such a difficult question. So the denial that comes up is from the basic lack of self esteem, feelings of inadequacy and so the denial then can be turned into
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Delores: That was very well done for such a [[difficult]] question. So the [[denial]] that comes up is from the basic lack of [[self esteem]], [[feelings]] of inadequacy and so the denial then can be turned into
thanks, because it is from the Father, so that removes the self, sort of, from it and makes it flow there. What I was looking for some way to make some flow and get out of that dead-end.
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[[thanks]], because it is from [[the Father]], so that removes the [[self]], sort of, from it and makes it [[flow]] there. What I was looking for some way to make some [[flow]] and get out of that dead-end.
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LinEL: Yes. You will find that passing on the thanks is a temporary solution, one that will flow you into a more permanent solution, of feeling more adequate. The cycle is useful. Try to practice this. You will find your self esteem and your inadequate feelings will begin to slowly slip away. You will begin to feel that you are a part of a larger system, and that, as you say, "the dead end", will open up. Delores: Thank you, LinEL.
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LinEL: Yes. You will find that passing on the [[thanks]] is a temporary solution, one that will [[flow]] you into a more permanent solution, of [[feeling]] more adequate. The [[cycle]] is useful. Try to [[practice]] this. You will find your [[self esteem]] and your inadequate [[feelings]] will begin to slowly slip away. You will begin to feel that you are a part of a larger system, and that, as you say, "the dead end", will open up.  
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Thea: So LinEL, am I right in assuming as I listen to this discussion that this same feeling of inadequacy is one of the things that gets in the way for some of us to get in contact with the Father? Since I see that contact with the Father is about the biggest gift I could receive and I do sometimes feel this?
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Delores: Thank you, LinEL.
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LinEL: This is true. As you spoke of earlier, to reduce your prayers, your meditations to their most basic level, do not attempt to fool the Father [by trying to be more] adequate than you actually feel. This is not useful to you. You will find that as you come to him more honestly, you dispense with your troubles immediately. Pass them on. They are not yours; you cannot adequately fix them by mere will alone. It does require that you have union with the Father. Just as in passing along the thanks, pass along your inadequacies, pass along what you feel you cannot control. Thea: So telling the Father, we are passing it along... LinEL: Yes. It does not require much - simply an honest expression of how you feel. It does not even have to be phrased in an eloquent way.
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Thea: So LinEL, am I right in [[assuming]] as I [[listen]] to this [[discussion]] that this same feeling of inadequacy is one of the things that gets in the way for some of us to get in [[contact]] with [[the Father]]? Since I see that contact with the Father is about the biggest gift I could receive and I do sometimes feel this?
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LinEL: This is true. As you spoke of earlier, to reduce your [[prayers]], your [[meditations]] to their most basic level, do not attempt to [[fool]] [[the Father]] [by trying to be more] adequate than you actually feel. This is not useful to you. You will find that as you come to him more [[honestly]], you dispense with your troubles [[immediately]]. Pass them on. They are not yours; you cannot adequately fix them by mere will alone. It does require that you have [[union]] with [[the Father]]. Just as in passing along the thanks, pass along your inadequacies, pass along what you [[feel]] you cannot [[control]].  
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Thea: So telling the Father, we are passing it along... LinEL: Yes. It does not require much - simply an honest expression of how you feel. It does not even have to be phrased in an eloquent way.
    
Barbara: LinEL, what I am hearing you say is that we need to be self aware in ways that allow us to recognize our shortcomings, recognize negative emotions, recognize motivations that are less than pure and those kinds of things and accept them? So that we can give them to the Father? LinEL: Yes. As we spoke of earlier, this being open allows you a greater opportunity to become aware. You cannot become so aware by mere will alone. It requires, once again a union, an exchange with the Father. As you are more capable of experiencing difficult situations, as you are more capable of experiencing difficult situations, as you become more willing, opening to this it will come to your life, and if you ask for it you will expect it and you can receive it more readily. You can be more able to take advantage of the situation when it occurs. I know that all of you have experienced a random, challenging situation and have felt taken off guard by it. When you ask for these challenging situations, you ask for a specific test, you can be assured that you will get it. Barbara: That reassures me a lot! (Laughter)
 
Barbara: LinEL, what I am hearing you say is that we need to be self aware in ways that allow us to recognize our shortcomings, recognize negative emotions, recognize motivations that are less than pure and those kinds of things and accept them? So that we can give them to the Father? LinEL: Yes. As we spoke of earlier, this being open allows you a greater opportunity to become aware. You cannot become so aware by mere will alone. It requires, once again a union, an exchange with the Father. As you are more capable of experiencing difficult situations, as you are more capable of experiencing difficult situations, as you become more willing, opening to this it will come to your life, and if you ask for it you will expect it and you can receive it more readily. You can be more able to take advantage of the situation when it occurs. I know that all of you have experienced a random, challenging situation and have felt taken off guard by it. When you ask for these challenging situations, you ask for a specific test, you can be assured that you will get it. Barbara: That reassures me a lot! (Laughter)
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LinEL: Thank you. I hope that you take a lesson from this kind treatment and try to pass it on to others. You yourself are being instructed to be a teacher like us. You will be more effective than we will in communicating with others. This is something that is part of the collaboration of this mission. We teach you so that you may teach others. If we treat you the way you deserve to be
 
LinEL: Thank you. I hope that you take a lesson from this kind treatment and try to pass it on to others. You yourself are being instructed to be a teacher like us. You will be more effective than we will in communicating with others. This is something that is part of the collaboration of this mission. We teach you so that you may teach others. If we treat you the way you deserve to be
treated, perhaps you can understand and treat others in the same way. I need to draw this meeting to a close. The time is getting late, I realize. I would like to leave you all with a thought that we can follow up on next week. I would like you to think of your greatest weakness and how this can be seen also as your greatest strength. All of you spend much time speaking of your weaknesses, however, within these weaknesses lies your greatest strength. I would be curious to hear you speak on this next week, and I can give you help with this if you get stuck. Know that the love of the Father is around you at all times. You just open yourself up to it and it will fill you. Know also we are with you and encourage you in every element of your life.  
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treated, perhaps you can understand and treat others in the same way. I need to draw this meeting to a close. The time is getting late, I realize. I would like to leave you all with a thought that we can follow up on next week. I would like you to think of your greatest weakness and how this can be seen also as your greatest strength. All of you spend much time speaking of your weaknesses, however, within these weaknesses lies your greatest strength. I would be curious to hear you speak on this next week, and I can give you help with this if you get stuck. Know that the love of the Father is around you at all times. You just open yourself up to it and it will fill you. Know also we are with you and encourage you in every element of your life.
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===Closing===
 
===Closing===
 
Farewell. I look forward to seeing you next week. Group: Good-bye, LinEL
 
Farewell. I look forward to seeing you next week. Group: Good-bye, LinEL