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132:7.1 [[Jesus]], Gonod, and Ganid made five trips away from [[Rome]] to points of interest in the [[surrounding]] territory. On their [[visit]] to the [http://www.italianlakes.com/maps/maps_home.htm northern Italian lakes] [[Jesus]] had the long talk with Ganid concerning the impossibility of teaching a man about [[God]] if the man does not [[desire]] to know God. They had casually met a thoughtless [[pagan]] while on their [[journey]] up to [http://www.italianlakes.com/maps/maps_home.htm the lakes], and Ganid was [[surprised]] that Jesus did not follow out his usual [[practice]] of enlisting the man in [[conversation]] which would naturally lead up to the [[discussion]] of [[spiritual]] questions. When Ganid asked his teacher why he evinced so little interest in this [[pagan]], Jesus answered:

132:7.1 [[Jesus]], Gonod, and Ganid made five trips away from [[Rome]] to points of interest in the [[surrounding]] territory. On their [[visit]] to the [https://www.italianlakes.com/maps/maps_home.htm northern Italian lakes] [[Jesus]] had the long talk with Ganid concerning the impossibility of teaching a man about [[God]] if the man does not [[desire]] to know God. They had casually met a thoughtless [[pagan]] while on their [[journey]] up to [https://www.italianlakes.com/maps/maps_home.htm the lakes], and Ganid was [[surprised]] that Jesus did not follow out his usual [[practice]] of enlisting the man in [[conversation]] which would naturally lead up to the [[discussion]] of [[spiritual]] questions. When Ganid asked his teacher why he evinced so little interest in this [[pagan]], Jesus answered:

132:7.2 " Ganid, the man was not [[hungry]] for [[truth]]. He was not dissatisfied with himself. He was not ready to ask for help, and the eyes of his [[mind]] were not open to [[receive]] [[light]] for the [[soul]]. That man was not ripe for the [[harvest]] of [[salvation]]; he must be allowed more time for the trials and [[difficulties]] of life to [[prepare]] him for the [[reception]] of [[wisdom]] and higher [[learning]]. Or, if we could have him live with us, we might by our lives show him [[the Father]] in heaven, and thus would he become so [[attracted]] by our lives as sons of God that he would be constrained to [[inquire]] about [[our Father]]. You cannot [[reveal]] God to those who do not [[seek]] for him; you cannot lead unwilling [[souls]] into the [[joys]] of [[salvation]]. Man must become [[hungry]] for [[truth]] as a result of the [[experiences]] of living, or he must [[desire]] to [[know]] [[God]] as the result of [[contact]] with the lives of those who are acquainted with the [[divine]] [[Father]] before another [[human being]] can act as the means of [[leading]] such a fellow [[mortal]] to [[the Father]] in heaven. If we know [[God]], our real [[business]] on earth is so to live as to [[permit]] [[the Father]] to [[reveal]] himself in our lives, and thus will all God-seeking persons see [[the Father]] and ask for our help in finding out more about the God who in this [[manner]] finds [[expression]] in our lives. "

132:7.2 " Ganid, the man was not [[hungry]] for [[truth]]. He was not dissatisfied with himself. He was not ready to ask for help, and the eyes of his [[mind]] were not open to [[receive]] [[light]] for the [[soul]]. That man was not ripe for the [[harvest]] of [[salvation]]; he must be allowed more time for the trials and [[difficulties]] of life to [[prepare]] him for the [[reception]] of [[wisdom]] and higher [[learning]]. Or, if we could have him live with us, we might by our lives show him [[the Father]] in heaven, and thus would he become so [[attracted]] by our lives as sons of God that he would be constrained to [[inquire]] about [[our Father]]. You cannot [[reveal]] God to those who do not [[seek]] for him; you cannot lead unwilling [[souls]] into the [[joys]] of [[salvation]]. Man must become [[hungry]] for [[truth]] as a result of the [[experiences]] of living, or he must [[desire]] to [[know]] [[God]] as the result of [[contact]] with the lives of those who are acquainted with the [[divine]] [[Father]] before another [[human being]] can act as the means of [[leading]] such a fellow [[mortal]] to [[the Father]] in heaven. If we know [[God]], our real [[business]] on earth is so to live as to [[permit]] [[the Father]] to [[reveal]] himself in our lives, and thus will all God-seeking persons see [[the Father]] and ask for our help in finding out more about the God who in this [[manner]] finds [[expression]] in our lives. "

132:7.3 It was on the visit to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland Switzerland], up in the mountains, that [[Jesus]] had an all-day talk with both father and son about [[Buddhism]]. Many times Ganid had asked [[Jesus]] direct questions about [[Buddha]], but he had always received more or less evasive replies. Now, in the [[presence]] of the son, the [[father]] asked Jesus a direct question about Buddha, and he received a direct reply. Said Gonod: " I would really like to know what you [[think]] of Buddha. " And Jesus answered:

132:7.3 It was on the visit to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland Switzerland], up in the mountains, that [[Jesus]] had an all-day talk with both father and son about [[Buddhism]]. Many times Ganid had asked [[Jesus]] direct questions about [[Buddha]], but he had always received more or less evasive replies. Now, in the [[presence]] of the son, the [[father]] asked Jesus a direct question about Buddha, and he received a direct reply. Said Gonod: " I would really like to know what you [[think]] of Buddha. " And Jesus answered:

132:7.4 " Your [[Buddha]] was much better than your Buddhism. Buddha was a great man, even a [[prophet]] to his people, but he was an [[orphan]] prophet; by that I mean that he early lost [[sight]] of his [[spiritual]] [[Father]], [[the Father]] in heaven. His [[experience]] was [[tragic]]. He tried to live and teach as a [[messenger]] of [[God]], but without God. Buddha guided his ship of [[salvation]] right up to the safe [[harbor]], right up to the entrance to the [[haven]] of mortal [[salvation]], and there, because of faulty charts of [[navigation]], the good ship ran aground. There it has rested these many [[generations]], motionless and almost hopelessly stranded. And thereon have many of your people remained all these years. They live within hailing distance of the safe waters of [[rest]], but they refuse to enter because the [[noble]] craft of the [[good]] [[Buddha]] met the misfortune of grounding just outside the [[harbor]]. And the Buddhist peoples never will enter this [[harbor]] unless they abandon the philosophic craft of their [[prophet]] and seize upon his [[noble]] [[spirit]]. Had your people remained true to the spirit of [[Buddha]], you would have long since entered your haven of spirit tranquillity, [[soul]] [[rest]], and [[assurance]] of [[salvation]].

132:7.4 " Your [[Buddha]] was much better than your Buddhism. Buddha was a great man, even a [[prophet]] to his people, but he was an [[orphan]] prophet; by that I mean that he early lost [[sight]] of his [[spiritual]] [[Father]], [[the Father]] in heaven. His [[experience]] was [[tragic]]. He tried to live and teach as a [[messenger]] of [[God]], but without God. Buddha guided his ship of [[salvation]] right up to the safe [[harbor]], right up to the entrance to the [[haven]] of mortal [[salvation]], and there, because of faulty charts of [[navigation]], the good ship ran aground. There it has rested these many [[generations]], motionless and almost hopelessly stranded. And thereon have many of your people remained all these years. They live within hailing distance of the safe waters of [[rest]], but they refuse to enter because the [[noble]] craft of the [[good]] [[Buddha]] met the misfortune of grounding just outside the [[harbor]]. And the Buddhist peoples never will enter this [[harbor]] unless they abandon the philosophic craft of their [[prophet]] and seize upon his [[noble]] [[spirit]]. Had your people remained true to the spirit of [[Buddha]], you would have long since entered your haven of spirit tranquillity, [[soul]] [[rest]], and [[assurance]] of [[salvation]].

132:7.5 " You see, Gonod, [[Buddha]] knew [[God]] in [[spirit]] but failed clearly to [[discover]] him in [[mind]]; the [[Jews]] discovered God in [[mind]] but largely failed to know him in spirit. Today, the Buddhists flounder about in a [[philosophy]] without [[God]], while my people are piteously enslaved to the [[fear]] of a [[God]] without a saving [[philosophy]] of life and [[liberty]]. You have a [[philosophy]] without a [[God]]; the [[Jews]] have a God but are largely without a [[philosophy]] of living as related thereto. Buddha, failing to [[envision]] God as a spirit and as a [[Father]], failed to provide in his teaching the [[moral]] [[energy]] and the spiritual driving [[power]] which a [[religion]] must [[possess]] if it is to change a [[race]] and exalt a [[nation]]. "

132:7.5 " You see, Gonod, [[Buddha]] knew [[God]] in [[spirit]] but failed clearly to [[discover]] him in [[mind]]; the [[Jews]] discovered God in [[mind]] but largely failed to know him in spirit. Today, the Buddhists flounder about in a [[philosophy]] without [[God]], while my people are piteously enslaved to the [[fear]] of a [[God]] without a saving [[philosophy]] of life and [[liberty]]. You have a [[philosophy]] without a [[God]]; the [[Jews]] have a God but are largely without a [[philosophy]] of living as related thereto. Buddha, failing to [[envision]] God as a spirit and as a [[Father]], failed to provide in his teaching the [[moral]] [[energy]] and the spiritual driving [[power]] which a [[religion]] must [[possess]] if it is to change a [[race]] and exalt a [[nation]]. "

132:7.6 Then exclaimed Ganid: " [[Teacher]], let's you and I make a new religion, one good enough for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_India India] and big enough for [[Rome]], and maybe we can trade it to the [[Jews]] for [[Yahweh]]. " And Jesus replied: " Ganid, religions are not made. The religions of men grow up over long periods of [[time]], while the [[revelations]] of [[God]] flash upon [[earth]] in the lives of the men who [[reveal]] [[God]] to their fellows. " But they did not [[comprehend]] the [[meaning]] of these [[prophetic]] [[words]].

132:7.6 Then exclaimed Ganid: " [[Teacher]], let's you and I make a new religion, one good enough for [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_India India] and big enough for [[Rome]], and maybe we can trade it to the [[Jews]] for [[Yahweh]]. " And Jesus replied: " Ganid, religions are not made. The religions of men grow up over long periods of [[time]], while the [[revelations]] of [[God]] flash upon [[earth]] in the lives of the men who [[reveal]] [[God]] to their fellows. " But they did not [[comprehend]] the [[meaning]] of these [[prophetic]] [[words]].

132:7.7 That night after they had retired, Ganid could not [[sleep]]. He talked a long time with his [[father]] and finally said, " You know, father, I sometimes think Joshua is a [[prophet]]. " And his father only sleepily replied, " My son, there are others—"

132:7.7 That night after they had retired, Ganid could not [[sleep]]. He talked a long time with his [[father]] and finally said, " You know, father, I sometimes think Joshua is a [[prophet]]. " And his father only sleepily replied, " My son, there are others—"