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133:5.1 They shortly arrived at the olden center of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greece Greek] [[science]] and [[learning]], and Ganid was thrilled with the [[thought]] of being in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Athens Athens], of being in Greece, the [[cultural]] center of the onetime [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandrian_Empire#Conquest_of_the_Persian_Empire Alexandrian empire], which had extended its borders even to his own land of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_India India]. There was little [[business]] to [[transact]]; so Gonod spent most of his time with [[Jesus]] and Ganid, visiting the many points of interest and [[listening]] to the interesting [[discussions]] of the lad and his [[versatile]] [[teacher]].
133:5.2 A great [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platonic_Academy university] still thrived in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Athens Athens], and the trio made frequent [[visits]] to its halls of [[learning]]. [[Jesus]] and Ganid had thoroughly [[discussed]] the teachings of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato Plato] when they attended the [[lecture]]s in the [[museum]] at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria Alexandria]. They all enjoyed the art of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_Art Greece], examples of which were still to be found here and there about the [[city]].
133:5.3 Both the [[father]] and the son greatly enjoyed the [[discussion]] on [[science]] which Jesus had at their inn one evening with a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_Philosophy Greek philosopher]. After this pedant had talked for almost three hours, and when he had finished his [[discourse]], Jesus, in terms of [[modern]] [[thought]], said:
133:5.4 [[Scientists]] may some day [[measure]] the [[energy]], or [[force]] [[manifestations]], of [[gravitation]], [[light]], and [[electricity]], but these same scientists can never (scientifically) tell you what these [[universe]] [[phenomena]] are. Science deals with [[physical]]-[[energy]] [[activities]]; [[religion]] deals with [[eternal]] [[values]]. True [[philosophy]] grows out of the [[wisdom]] which does its best to correlate these [[quantitative]] and [[qualitative]] [[observations]]. There always exists the [[danger]] that the purely physical [[scientist]] may become afflicted with [[mathematical]] [[pride]] and [[statistical]] [[egotism]], not to mention [[spiritual]] [[blindness]].
133:5.5 [[Logic]] is valid in the [[material]] world, and [[mathematics]] is reliable when [[limited]] in its application to [[physical]] things; but neither is to be regarded as wholly dependable or [[infallible]] when applied to life [[problems]]. Life [[embraces]] [[phenomena]] which are not wholly [[material]]. Arithmetic says that, if one man could shear a sheep in ten minutes, ten men could shear it in one minute. That is sound mathematics, but it is not true, for the ten men could not so do it; they would get in one another's way so badly that the work would be greatly [[delayed]].
133:5.6 [[Mathematics]] asserts that, if one person stands for a certain [[unit]] of [[intellectual]] and [[moral]] [[value]], ten persons would stand for ten times this [[value]]. But in dealing with [[human]] [[personality]] it would be nearer the [[truth]] to say that such a [[personality]] [[association]] is a [[sum]] [[equal]] to the square of the [[number]] of [[personalities]] concerned in the [[equation]] rather than the simple arithmetical [[sum]]. A [[social]] [[group]] of [[human being]]s in [[co-ordinated]] working [[harmony]] stands for a force far greater than the simple [[sum]] of its parts.
133:5.7 [[Quantity]] may be identified as a [[fact]], thus becoming a scientific [[uniformity]]. [[Quality]], being a matter of [[mind]] [[interpretation]], represents an estimate of [[values]], and must, therefore, remain an [[experience]] of the [[individual]]. When both [[science]] and [[religion]] become less [[dogmatic]] and more [[tolerant]] of [[criticism]], [[philosophy]] will then begin to achieve [[unity]] in the [[intelligent]] [[comprehension]] of the [[universe]].
133:5.8 There is [[unity]] in the [[cosmic]] [[universe]] if you could only [[discern]] its workings in [[actuality]]. The real [[universe]] is friendly to every child of the [[eternal]] [[God]]. The real [[problem]] is: How can the [[finite]] [[mind]] of man [[achieve]] a [[logical]], true, and corresponding [[unity]] of [[thought]]? This [[universe]]-knowing [[state]] of [[mind]] can be had only by conceiving that the [[quantitative]] [[fact]] and the [[qualitative]] [[value]] have a common [[causation]] in the [[Paradise Father]]. Such a [[conception]] of [[reality]] yields a broader [[insight]] into the [[purposeful]] [[unity]] of [[universe]] [[phenomena]]; it even reveals a [[spiritual]] goal of [[progressive]] [[personality]] achievement. And this is a [[concept]] of [[unity]] which can sense the unchanging background of a living [[universe]] of continually changing [[impersonal]] [[relations]] and evolving [[personal]] [[relationships]].
133:5.9 [[Matter]] and [[spirit]] and the state intervening between them are three interrelated and interassociated levels of the true [[unity]] of the real [[universe]]. Regardless of how divergent the [[universe]] [[phenomena]] of [[fact]] and [[value]] may appear to be, they are, after all, [[unified]] in the [[Supreme]].
133:5.10 [[Reality]] of [[material]] [[existence]] attaches to unrecognized [[energy]] as well as to visible [[matter]]. When the [[energies]] of the [[universe]] are so slowed down that they acquire the requisite [[degree]] of [[motion]], then, under favorable conditions, these same energies become [[mass]]. And forget not, the [[mind]] which can alone [[perceive]] the [[presence]] of apparent [[realities]] is itself also real. And the [[fundamental]] [[cause]] of this [[universe]] of [[energy]]-[[mass]], [[mind]], and [[spirit]], is [[eternal]]—it exists and consists in the [[nature]] and [[reactions]] of the [[Universal Father]] and [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_105#105:3._THE_SEVEN_ABSOLUTES_OF_INFINITY his absolute co-ordinates].
133:5.11 They were all more than astounded at the [[words]] of [[Jesus]], and when the Greek took leave of them, he said: " At last my eyes have beheld a [[Jew]] who thinks something besides [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism racial superiority] and talks something besides [[religion]]. " And they retired for the night.
133:5.12 The [[sojourn]] in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Athens Athens] was pleasant and profitable, but it was not particularly fruitful in its [[human]] [[contacts]]. Too many of the Athenians of that day were either [[intellectually]] proud of their [[reputation]] of another day or mentally stupid and [[ignorant]], being the [[offspring]] of the inferior [[slaves]] of those earlier periods when there was [[glory]] in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greece Greece] and [[wisdom]] in the [[minds]] of its people. Even then, there were still many keen minds to be found among the [[citizens]] of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Athens Athens].
<center>[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_133 Go to Paper 133]</center>
<center>[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_Urantia_Text_-_Contents Go to Table of Contents]</center>
[[Category:Paper 133 - The Return From Rome]]
133:5.1 They shortly arrived at the olden center of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greece Greek] [[science]] and [[learning]], and Ganid was thrilled with the [[thought]] of being in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Athens Athens], of being in Greece, the [[cultural]] center of the onetime [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandrian_Empire#Conquest_of_the_Persian_Empire Alexandrian empire], which had extended its borders even to his own land of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_India India]. There was little [[business]] to [[transact]]; so Gonod spent most of his time with [[Jesus]] and Ganid, visiting the many points of interest and [[listening]] to the interesting [[discussions]] of the lad and his [[versatile]] [[teacher]].
133:5.2 A great [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platonic_Academy university] still thrived in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Athens Athens], and the trio made frequent [[visits]] to its halls of [[learning]]. [[Jesus]] and Ganid had thoroughly [[discussed]] the teachings of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato Plato] when they attended the [[lecture]]s in the [[museum]] at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria Alexandria]. They all enjoyed the art of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_Art Greece], examples of which were still to be found here and there about the [[city]].
133:5.3 Both the [[father]] and the son greatly enjoyed the [[discussion]] on [[science]] which Jesus had at their inn one evening with a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_Philosophy Greek philosopher]. After this pedant had talked for almost three hours, and when he had finished his [[discourse]], Jesus, in terms of [[modern]] [[thought]], said:
133:5.4 [[Scientists]] may some day [[measure]] the [[energy]], or [[force]] [[manifestations]], of [[gravitation]], [[light]], and [[electricity]], but these same scientists can never (scientifically) tell you what these [[universe]] [[phenomena]] are. Science deals with [[physical]]-[[energy]] [[activities]]; [[religion]] deals with [[eternal]] [[values]]. True [[philosophy]] grows out of the [[wisdom]] which does its best to correlate these [[quantitative]] and [[qualitative]] [[observations]]. There always exists the [[danger]] that the purely physical [[scientist]] may become afflicted with [[mathematical]] [[pride]] and [[statistical]] [[egotism]], not to mention [[spiritual]] [[blindness]].
133:5.5 [[Logic]] is valid in the [[material]] world, and [[mathematics]] is reliable when [[limited]] in its application to [[physical]] things; but neither is to be regarded as wholly dependable or [[infallible]] when applied to life [[problems]]. Life [[embraces]] [[phenomena]] which are not wholly [[material]]. Arithmetic says that, if one man could shear a sheep in ten minutes, ten men could shear it in one minute. That is sound mathematics, but it is not true, for the ten men could not so do it; they would get in one another's way so badly that the work would be greatly [[delayed]].
133:5.6 [[Mathematics]] asserts that, if one person stands for a certain [[unit]] of [[intellectual]] and [[moral]] [[value]], ten persons would stand for ten times this [[value]]. But in dealing with [[human]] [[personality]] it would be nearer the [[truth]] to say that such a [[personality]] [[association]] is a [[sum]] [[equal]] to the square of the [[number]] of [[personalities]] concerned in the [[equation]] rather than the simple arithmetical [[sum]]. A [[social]] [[group]] of [[human being]]s in [[co-ordinated]] working [[harmony]] stands for a force far greater than the simple [[sum]] of its parts.
133:5.7 [[Quantity]] may be identified as a [[fact]], thus becoming a scientific [[uniformity]]. [[Quality]], being a matter of [[mind]] [[interpretation]], represents an estimate of [[values]], and must, therefore, remain an [[experience]] of the [[individual]]. When both [[science]] and [[religion]] become less [[dogmatic]] and more [[tolerant]] of [[criticism]], [[philosophy]] will then begin to achieve [[unity]] in the [[intelligent]] [[comprehension]] of the [[universe]].
133:5.8 There is [[unity]] in the [[cosmic]] [[universe]] if you could only [[discern]] its workings in [[actuality]]. The real [[universe]] is friendly to every child of the [[eternal]] [[God]]. The real [[problem]] is: How can the [[finite]] [[mind]] of man [[achieve]] a [[logical]], true, and corresponding [[unity]] of [[thought]]? This [[universe]]-knowing [[state]] of [[mind]] can be had only by conceiving that the [[quantitative]] [[fact]] and the [[qualitative]] [[value]] have a common [[causation]] in the [[Paradise Father]]. Such a [[conception]] of [[reality]] yields a broader [[insight]] into the [[purposeful]] [[unity]] of [[universe]] [[phenomena]]; it even reveals a [[spiritual]] goal of [[progressive]] [[personality]] achievement. And this is a [[concept]] of [[unity]] which can sense the unchanging background of a living [[universe]] of continually changing [[impersonal]] [[relations]] and evolving [[personal]] [[relationships]].
133:5.9 [[Matter]] and [[spirit]] and the state intervening between them are three interrelated and interassociated levels of the true [[unity]] of the real [[universe]]. Regardless of how divergent the [[universe]] [[phenomena]] of [[fact]] and [[value]] may appear to be, they are, after all, [[unified]] in the [[Supreme]].
133:5.10 [[Reality]] of [[material]] [[existence]] attaches to unrecognized [[energy]] as well as to visible [[matter]]. When the [[energies]] of the [[universe]] are so slowed down that they acquire the requisite [[degree]] of [[motion]], then, under favorable conditions, these same energies become [[mass]]. And forget not, the [[mind]] which can alone [[perceive]] the [[presence]] of apparent [[realities]] is itself also real. And the [[fundamental]] [[cause]] of this [[universe]] of [[energy]]-[[mass]], [[mind]], and [[spirit]], is [[eternal]]—it exists and consists in the [[nature]] and [[reactions]] of the [[Universal Father]] and [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_105#105:3._THE_SEVEN_ABSOLUTES_OF_INFINITY his absolute co-ordinates].
133:5.11 They were all more than astounded at the [[words]] of [[Jesus]], and when the Greek took leave of them, he said: " At last my eyes have beheld a [[Jew]] who thinks something besides [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism racial superiority] and talks something besides [[religion]]. " And they retired for the night.
133:5.12 The [[sojourn]] in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Athens Athens] was pleasant and profitable, but it was not particularly fruitful in its [[human]] [[contacts]]. Too many of the Athenians of that day were either [[intellectually]] proud of their [[reputation]] of another day or mentally stupid and [[ignorant]], being the [[offspring]] of the inferior [[slaves]] of those earlier periods when there was [[glory]] in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greece Greece] and [[wisdom]] in the [[minds]] of its people. Even then, there were still many keen minds to be found among the [[citizens]] of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Athens Athens].
<center>[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_133 Go to Paper 133]</center>
<center>[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_Urantia_Text_-_Contents Go to Table of Contents]</center>
[[Category:Paper 133 - The Return From Rome]]