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Topic: Soul Consciousness
Group: New Zealand TeaM
Charles - Opening prayer.
Teacher: I am Abraham, I am your Teacher.
All- Good evening Abraham.
Teacher: You have queries.
Petta - - When humans pass to the spirit world, you have taught us that contact through mediums is not direct, as many of us thought. It comes from soul conscious(ness), that being so, how does one get automatic writing, how is it received?
Teacher: Yes, one moment.
Yes, delay caused by Reuben, one moment.
"Thank you Abraham.
Teacher: You are welcome.
Teacher: Soul consciousness would have used the language, used by soul consciousness.
Petta - - So if one wrote German, a past life would have taught them that.
"Ah! So it's not your own soul consciousness.
Teacher: Your guide would be the control for such.
"Thank you Abraham, it's clearer for me now.
Selina - You told me, when our lessons first started, that I had met Ruby, Tommas - & Martin, before, through similar interests, I never asked you, I don't think, what the similar interests were, what was it that brought us together?
Teacher: What has brought you together this particular life time'
"We are seeking the truth.
"The same before?
"I have done that, but is that in the future, this is a question to confuse Tommas - (joke)
Tommas - I can get confused on my own, thank you.
Selina - Thank you. Can you tell me, at this stage then, anything about Andreas?
Teacher: That depends on what it is, you wish to know.
"Well, I've often asked before, and you always tell me, I have enough to think about, so I'm asking early this lesson I'd like to know something of his last physical life, his work, the year, perhaps the year date he started helping me.
"I felt I would say, just this year.
Teacher: Then so be it.
Filip - When you say creation, do you mean in this lifetime.
Correct. Continue Selina - .
Selina - I was just wondering if I had physically met Andreas, if he had been related to me in any Clara - way, an Uncle, something like that.
Teacher: Not so.
"Well then, his work?
Teacher: One moment. He was a maker of cloth.
"And the year?
Filip - 6 A.D . is that?
Selina - Can you tell me anything about his experiences in his life?
Teacher: Similar to your own, therefore an apt guide.
"Is there anything else that you are allowed to tell me, then I won't ask about him anymore.
Teacher: You may ask again, at another appointment. A little, and often.
Thank you Abraham.
Tommas - A life in the year 6 A.D. would be completely different to the sort of a life that we live.
Teacher: In physical terms perhaps.
Charles - Emotional terms may be similar.
Filip - That really depends on their place on the Earth though.
Teacher: The only difference concerning the place of abode is or would be, the emphasis placed on certain aspects of living physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually, but the same needs exist. You are understanding?
Selina - Yes. What country would that have been called where Andreas was?
"That was nice.
Teacher: Ah! There were many Gods.
Teacher: Not a false idol, rather slight mis-guidance. You may ask at our next appointment.
"Thank you Abraham.
There are those who have never begun the journey of seeking.
There are those who have just begun. This answers your query?
"Yes, it does, thank you.
Teacher: They operate in a differing manner.
Teacher: Within their own species.
Selina - Do they have a learning mission to accomplish?
Teacher: They are not as humans, animals re-incarnate within their own species. A horse shall not become re-incarnated as a cat. A horse is a horse is a horse. Buddhism (Zen Japanese religion) change and grow, this is their view of progression of growth of learning, but you see, the growth from a small insect through to a human being, forgetting that a human being may grow through many, many, MANY, periods of growth within the species known as human kind.
If it is with your agreement, you shall take refreshment, I shall return.
- TEA BREAK
Selina - Well, I will tell you about another social event that's coming up. This weekend, we are all hoping to get together as a group, and go to Melda's for an evening meal, perhaps you will be able to join us at that one,
as you missed out on our last journey to the rock shop.
Tommas - , you had some good news this week, you could tell our friends in the room about.
Tommas - My firm has told me I have $600.00 to spend, as I have worked for them for 20 years. It was due it back in April, but I think they were waiting for me to get my tooth fixed after the accident, and have given up waiting. So we will have to see what we can find, there will be a presentation at work, Wilma was laughing, till I said, you have to come as well, and that took the smile off her face.
Teacher: So you receive reward.
"Yes, for 20 years service to the company, and again at 25 years and at 30….
Teacher: And this gives satisfaction.
"It makes you feel appreciated.
Teacher: But of course.
Selina - Has nobody got any questions?
Charlemont - Yes, I'd like to say something. We were speaking in the interval, I was speaking to somebody, about the lessons, having more than one teacher can confuse, and it occurred to me, after I had finished speaking, that I have always felt nervous of saying to somebody, that I felt we have the ultimate in Abraham, because there are so many other kinds of lessons about, but it has occurred to me just recently, that all the other lessons, that I know I've had, both in the physical and the lessons of occult, have all led to this one teacher, and this one teaching of the mind, is the ultimate, and I don't mean just to me, I think it is the ultimate.
Teacher: Because it is SELF.
Teacher: I am understanding. You see, I have said before times, I am your teacher. I have explained the meaning of teacher, which is, one who guides, who gives knowledge, yes? but you, yourself, teaches self.
" Yes. I am trying to explain too, that I still am interested in learning music, other occult things, as an interest, and they all add another dimension to the crystal, that is ME, but, this is the centre of the crystal, I realise more than ever now, the deeper I get involved, the more I believe that.
Teacher: Yes. You are correct.
You wish to discuss this?
Tommas - People who are not as fortunate as us, do they naturally become aware spiritually, or could they just go right through their life with not knowing, if it hadn’t have been for the fact, that I knew Ruby & Charles - personally, I wouldn’t have come, so it's really pure luck, I guess. I wouldn’t have gone to a stranger, because the trust would not have been there.
Charlemont - I think we could find the same answers through other channels, in other words, there are other ways, of releasing the inner you, we have found what we call Abraham as a teacher, but I'm sure Abraham would say there are others, and other areas where humankind can find the oneness that is. Because there are other books that we have read, that have expressed exactly the same message that we are getting through Abraham's teachings, and these people have found it in other ways.
Teacher: There may have been, there obviously was a sympathetic cord struck within your soul, Tommas - , to give you the impetuous to commence, yes? and then an added factor of the knowledge of the persons concerned, and having the trust, as you say, is an added impetuous to continue the search yes?
"I have always known there is something, after the physical, because we had a house in England that had a presence there. It used to knock the door knocker and make the sound of footsteps around the place, but I've never felt to delve or find out what or why.
Teacher: A sympathetic cord was struck. You are aware of that which it was?
Well, Selina - doesn’t like driving far, and she wanted to go out to Ruby's place, and I said right, I'll take you.
Selina - So I nagged him.
Tommas - Well you didn’t nag, you wanted to go, you couldn’t get there otherwise.
Selina - I desperately wanted to go out to Charles - & Ruby's home, to talk to you, because they had told me about you, and I didn’t want to drive, as Tommas - says, I don't like driving, and he only took me because it was Charles - & Ruby, had it have been strangers, he would have said, if you want to go badly enough, you'll go on your own, but because he knew Charles - & Ruby, he was quite prepared to come along and just sit quietly, but when we got there, before the end of the evening, he had questions of his own, you did trigger off the searching in Tommas - , and then, when I came back home that evening, I was telling Dominica about the meeting, she then just couldn’t wait to come & talk to you, herself
Teacher: And so it continues. Yes.
Filip - I was going to say, what about all those that follow the path of Christ, and that direction, because there are a. lot more of those, than there are of us. Is that their path, well it is their path.
"We are more aware of Christ': followers than
Teacher: Than you are of followers such as yourselves. Correct. But of course they follow their path, and the paths all lead to the one ocean which is God. Some take a precarious route, some lead to shallows and mud flats, some turn back on themselves and return to the point of origin from whence they may join another river, and on and on and on
"I think that's what I did, went back & joined another river.
Teacher: And Selina - , your exercise?
Selina - Yes, Abraham. I've done very well.
(Unrolled a scroll of good points)
I didn’t think of anything for some days, and when I thought of the first thing, then I couldn’t stop.
So I started off my good and my positive points with:
1. I think the first thing is, I have a sense of humour. I like to make people laugh, and I don't mind if by making them laugh, I've been the clown or the court jester, if it gets a smile, cheers somebody up, I really don't mind.
2. I'm good at making lists.
Teacher: I AM AWARE.
"That is so hard to do.
"I am efficient.
Teacher: Correct. Continue.
I'll leave out the next bit.
Tommas - Say, I always tell the truth.
Selina - Well I DON'T ALWAYS tell the truth.
Teacher: Repeat, I ENDEAVOUR TO SPEAK TRUTH
Selina - Yes, I endeavour to speak truth, yes that's better.
6. I'm quite good at keeping things clean & tidy. Garden, home, etc. I get satisfaction from the work itself, but mostly I get pleasure, it's in the end result for me, seeing things neat & tidy is what I really like.
7. I'm a loving, caring Wife, Mother & Friend. Forgiving of hurts, and I make excuses all the time, for people who have done things, perhaps that have hurt me, and I've said, well perhaps they are ill, or tired or I guess I don't hold a grudge, I think that's what I am trying to say.
8. I do have a good eye for colour, as Tommas - mentioned last week. I have been asked to decorate people's homes, going as far as choosing expensive items, like carpets & drapes. They seem to think I have good taste and have tried to copy that in some way.
10. I can say I am good at putting people at their ease, making them comfortable.
11. And I was told quite recently that I have a good personality, and that was a gift in itself, except I'm not quite sure what was implied by that.
Selina - That was the last one, so that worked out well.
"Yes, that's right really, I've got so much, and never knew it
Yes, I do, thank you Abraham.
Teacher: Do not give thanks to me, to your self be thankful.
Oh! Well I meant, you set me to do the exercise.
Teacher: I did????
Your query led to such.
Well I would like to finish off with a card that Petta - & Mondaa sent me, and the words were just so lovely, I'd like to tell everybody about it in the room, and it starts with:
There once was a woman who longed to have a flower garden. Each year she would visit her neighbour, who had the most beautiful garden she had ever seen, and he would give her cuttings and seeds for her own garden. But when she would return home, she would change her mind at the last minute, saying," But my neighbours garden is so much lovelier than anything I could hope to grow. And he knows so much more about gardening--I could never hope to grow a garden half so lovely as that. Why should I even try? One day her neighbour stopped by her home and saw that she had not one flower growing anywhere around her house. "I've provided you with so much", he said, "and yet you have done nothing at all with what I have given you!" And so it is with each of us. The Lord gives us talents and expects us to develop them. We cannot judge our worth by comparing ourselves to others, but must bloom and grow the best we can with what we have been given.
And inside the card it tells:
I have also said, you are as a flower, each & every one. Tend the flower of your self, with care, with light, with love, and you shall blossom and grow to full beauty, if not tended in such a manner, the flower of your self, shall wither and die, yes.
And this also you can all do, for your selves. A list such as this, if it is your desire.
Teacher: So you are finding improvement?
Teacher: Filip - ! You are also finding improvement.
Teacher: Is this causing you some distress? Filip - Confusion, maybe.
Teacher: In which manner?
"I had difficulty understanding how Selina - didn’t like herself, because I've always thought that I liked myself. That I have quite a lot of good points, maybe I've treated people, especially people I've worked for, that I am better, than them. But I have this feeling inside me, that I may be wiser, or more aware or something. I can't put it into words. More then them.
Teacher: I am understanding.
These are my ponderings this week.
Teacher: And your conclusion?
"I still feel I am right, it feels right for me, how I am. My confusion is, am I right?
"Not pain as such, its disturbance shall we say.
"It's given me something else to ponder on.
Teacher: Yes. A great discovery awaits you.
Will it be the end of my frustrations though?
Teacher: Perhaps so.
"Yes, I understand.
"And out of our 10 lessons, where are we up to?
Teacher: Where do you wish to be?
"I thought we were round about number 9, but I've lost track.
Teacher: The end shall come when you decide.
"I just wondered when you mentioned the commitments, and. the 10 lessons, and possibly 20, if there was going to be a break between, or if the lessons between would be a different form, or course, or if we will just flow on.
Filip - Was not your concern the number of people, that's why we said
Selina - Well it is with me, I'd like to go on.
Filip - Was there really any doubt?
BelindaYes, thank you.
Yes, Hagadah, Korde - , Melda, Clara - .
Teacher: Yes, all is well.
Then, if there are no more queries, I shall leave you with this:
is to give light to others, to give love to others, through God.
All - Shalom.
Charles - Says closing prayer.