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==Session==
 
==Session==
 
===Opening===
 
===Opening===
Charles - Opening prayer.
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Charles - Opening [[prayer]].
  
Teacher: I am Abraham, I am your Teacher.
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Teacher: I am Abraham, I am your [[Teacher]].
  
 
All- Good evening Abraham.
 
All- Good evening Abraham.
  
Teacher: You have queries.
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Teacher: You have [[queries]].
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===Dialogue===
 
===Dialogue===
Petta - - When humans pass to the spirit world, you have taught us that contact through mediums is not direct, as many of us thought. It comes from soul conscious, that being so, how does one get automatic writing, how is it received?
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===='''''[[Automatic Writing]]'''''====
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Petta - - When [[humans]] pass to the [[spirit]] world, you have taught us that [[contact]] through [[mediums]] is not direct, as many of us [[thought]]. It comes from [[soul]] conscious(ness), that being so, how does one get [[automatic writing]], how is it received?
  
 
Teacher: Yes, one moment.
 
Teacher: Yes, one moment.
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Yes, delay caused by Reuben, one moment.
 
Yes, delay caused by Reuben, one moment.
  
The phenomena known as automatic writing comes by way of soul consciousness, your guide controls the manner off communication easiest to assimilate. This is clear for you?
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The [[phenomena]] known as [[automatic writing]] comes by way of [[soul]] [[consciousness]], your guide [[controls]] the [[manner]] off [[communication]] easiest to assimilate. This is [[clear]] for you?
  
"Does that mean that when somebody writes in a language that they don't know, that their guide has therefore belonged to that particular country in the past or that the person writings has?
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"Does that mean that when somebody writes in a [[language]] that they don't know, that their guide has therefore belonged to that particular country in the [[past]] or that the [[person]] writings has?
  
Teacher: The soul consciousness.
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Teacher: The [[soul]] [[consciousness]].
  
 
"Thank you Abraham.
 
"Thank you Abraham.
  
Teacher: You are welcome.
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Teacher: You are [[welcome]].
  
Filip - Why would a soul consciousness come back into a different country then, so the language was different?
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Filip - Why would a soul consciousness come back into a [[different]] country then, so the language was [[different]]?
  
Teacher: There is no language barrier for soul consciousness.
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Teacher: There is no [[language]] barrier for [[soul]] [[consciousness]].
  
Tommas - It would have been just as possible to write in the language that would have been understood?
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Tommas - It would have been just as possible to [[write]] in the language that would have been [[understood]]?
  
Teacher: Soul consciousness would have used the language, used by soul consciousness.
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Teacher: Soul consciousness would have used the [[language]], used by soul consciousness.
  
Petta - - So if one wrote German, a past life would have taught them that.
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Petta - - So if one wrote German, a [[past]] life would have taught them that.
  
Teacher: Repeat.
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Teacher: [[Repeat]].
  
If a person did automatic writing in the German language, of which they had no present day knowledge, does this mean that they did learn it, in a passed life?
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If a person did [[automatic writing]] in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_language German language], of which they had no present day [[knowledge]], does this mean that they did learn it, in a passed life?
  
Teacher: Not particularly. Soul consciousness using the physical as an instrument, would perhaps have been of that language.
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Teacher: Not particularly. [[Soul]] [[consciousness]] using the [[physical]] as an instrument, would perhaps have been of that [[language]].
  
 
"Ah! So it's not your own soul consciousness.
 
"Ah! So it's not your own soul consciousness.
  
Teacher: Your guide would be the control for such.
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Teacher: Your guide would be the [[control]] for such.
 
 
"Thank you Abraham, it's clearer for me now.
 
  
Teacher: The delay you have experienced between query and answer is attributable to an experience for Ruby. You may continue queries.
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"Thank you Abraham, it's [[clearer]] for me now.
  
Tommas - Is it possible in this life, if you think, In my next life I would like to do such and such a thing, is it possible to do that thing, make plans, or is your future life chosen for you?
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Teacher: The [[delay]] you have [[experienced]] between [[query]] and answer is attributable to an [[experience]] for Ruby. You may continue [[queries]].
  
Teacher: In the life between physical, you choose.
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Tommas - Is it possible in this life, if you [[think]], In my next life I would like to do such and such a [[thing]], is it possible to do that [[thing]], make [[plans]], or is your [[future]] life chosen for you?
  
"So you can't make any decision about it on this plane?
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Teacher: In the life between [[physical]], you [[choose]].
  
Teacher: Only in as much as what you do now, you reap the reward or non-reward, in the future, which is also in the present and the past.
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"So you can't make any [[decision]] about it on this [[plane]]?
  
Selina - You told me, when our lessons first started, that I had met Ruby, Tommas - & Martin, before, through similar interests, I never asked you, I don't think, what the similar interests were, what was it that brought us together?
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Teacher: Only in as much as what you do now, you reap the reward or non-reward, in the [[future]], which is also in the [[present]] and the [[past]].
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===='''''[[Seekers]]'''''====
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Selina - You told me, when our lessons first started, that I had met Ruby, Tommas - & Martin, before, through similar interests, I never asked you, I don't [[think]], what the similar interests were, what was it that brought us [[together]]?
  
 
Teacher: What has brought you together this particular life time'
 
Teacher: What has brought you together this particular life time'
  
"We are seeking the truth.
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"We are seeking the [[truth]].
  
 
Teacher: Yes.
 
Teacher: Yes.
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"The same before?
 
"The same before?
  
Teacher: Seekers of truth are always seekers Clara - of truth.
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Teacher: [[Seekers]] of truth are always seekers Clara - of [[truth]].
  
"I have done that, but is that in the future, this is a question to confuse Tommas - (joke)
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"I have done that, but is that in the [[future]], this is a question to confuse Tommas - (joke)
  
Tommas - I can get confused on my own, thank you.
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Tommas - I can get [[confused]] on my own, thank you.
  
Teacher: Past, present, future exist at the same time, space. You have your answer.
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Teacher: [[Past]], [[present]], [[future]] exist at the same [[time, space]]. You have your answer.
  
Selina - Thank you. Can you tell me, at this stage then, anything about Andreas?
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Selina - Thank you. Can you tell me, at this [[stage]] then, anything about Andreas?
  
Teacher: That depends on what it is, you wish to know.
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Teacher: That depends on what it is, you [[wish]] to know.
  
"Well, I've often asked before, and you always tell me, I have enough to think about, so I'm asking early this lesson I'd like to know something of his last physical life, his work, the year, perhaps the year date he started helping me.
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"Well, I've often asked before, and you always tell me, I have enough to [[think]] about, so I'm asking early this lesson I'd like to know something of his last [[physical]] life, his [[work]], the year, perhaps the year date he started helping me.
  
Teacher: To answer your last query first. Andreas has been guiding you since the day of your creation. It is more apt, you should inquire when it was you first became aware of such guidance.
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Teacher: To answer your last query first. Andreas has been guiding you since the day of your [[creation]]. It is more apt, you should [[inquire]] when it was you first became aware of such [[guidance]].
  
 
"I felt I would say, just this year.
 
"I felt I would say, just this year.
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Teacher: Then so be it.
 
Teacher: Then so be it.
  
Filip - When you say creation, do you mean in this lifetime.
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Filip - When you say [[creation]], do you mean in this lifetime.
  
 
Correct. Continue Selina - .
 
Correct. Continue Selina - .
  
Selina - I was just wondering if I had physically met Andreas, if he had been related to me in any Clara - way, an Uncle, something like that.
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Selina - I was just wondering if I had [[physically]] met Andreas, if he had been related to me in any Clara - way, an Uncle, something like that.
  
 
Teacher: Not so.
 
Teacher: Not so.
  
"Well then, his work?
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"Well then, his [[work]]?
  
 
Teacher: One moment. He was a maker of cloth.
 
Teacher: One moment. He was a maker of cloth.
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Teacher: 6
 
Teacher: 6
  
Filip - 6 A.D . is that?
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Filip - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6_AD 6 A.D] . is that?
  
 
Teacher: Correct.
 
Teacher: Correct.
  
Selina - Can you tell me anything about his experiences in his life?
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Selina - Can you tell me anything about his [[experiences]] in his life?
  
 
Teacher: Similar to your own, therefore an apt guide.
 
Teacher: Similar to your own, therefore an apt guide.
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"Is there anything else that you are allowed to tell me, then I won't ask about him anymore.
 
"Is there anything else that you are allowed to tell me, then I won't ask about him anymore.
  
Teacher: You may ask again, at another appointment. A little, and often.
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Teacher: You may ask again, at another [[appointment]]. A little, and often.
  
 
Thank you Abraham.
 
Thank you Abraham.
  
Tommas - A life in the year 6 A.D. would be completely different to the sort of a life that we live.
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Tommas - A life in the year 6 A.D. would be completely [[different]] to the sort of a life that we live.
  
Teacher: In physical terms perhaps.
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Teacher: In [[physical]] terms perhaps.
  
Charles - Emotional terms may be similar.
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Charles - [[Emotional]] terms may be similar.
  
Selina - Well they still have feet, a roof over their heads, and food in their stomachs.
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Selina - Well they still have feet, a [[Shelter|roof]] over their heads, and [[food]] in their stomachs.
  
Teacher: Basic humankind needs, wants, desires.
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Teacher: Basic [[humankind]] needs, wants, [[desires]].
  
Filip - That really depends on their place on the Earth though.
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Filip - That really depends on their place on the [[Earth]] though.
  
Teacher: The only difference concerning the place of abode is or would be, the emphasis placed on certain aspects of living physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually, but the same needs exist. You are understanding?
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Teacher: The only difference concerning the place of abode is or would be, the emphasis placed on certain aspects of living [[physically]], [[emotionally]], [[mentally]], [[spiritually]], but the same needs exist. You are [[understanding]]?
  
 
Selina - Yes. What country would that have been called where Andreas was?
 
Selina - Yes. What country would that have been called where Andreas was?
  
Teacher: In the time, the Roman time, in a place called SOMALIA present day name, or past, I am unclear. (East Africa)
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Teacher: In the time, the [[Roman]] time, in a place called [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somalia SOMALIA] present day name, or past, I am unclear. (East Africa)
  
"Was Andreas a follower of Jesus then? as Jesus grew older?
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"Was Andreas a follower of [[Jesus]] then? as [[Jesus]] grew older?
  
Teacher: There were few who knew of Jesus at this time, But a God person, yes. He knew, and loved his God.
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Teacher: There were few who knew of [[Jesus]] at this time, But a [[God]] person, yes. He knew, and loved his [[God]].
  
 
"That was nice.
 
"That was nice.
  
Teacher: Ah! There were many Gods.
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Teacher: Ah! There were many [[Gods]].
  
"Oh! I see, you mean,...you don't mean that he worshipped an idol though?
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"Oh! I see, you mean,...you don't mean that he [[worshiped]] an [[idol]] though?
  
 
Teacher: Not a false idol, rather slight mis-guidance. You may ask at our next appointment.
 
Teacher: Not a false idol, rather slight mis-guidance. You may ask at our next appointment.
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"Thank you Abraham.
 
"Thank you Abraham.
  
Dominica Abraham, you said that once a truth seeker, always a truth seeker. Those who are not seeking the truth, is it that they are not seeking it in this life; otherwise they will never seek it.
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Dominica Abraham, you said that once a [[truth]] [[seeker]], always a truth seeker. Those who are not seeking the truth, is it that they are not seeking it in this life; otherwise they will never seek it.
  
Teacher: There are those who have been always seekers of truth. There are those who flit from seeking to non-seeking, uncertain of self.
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Teacher: There are those who have been always [[seekers]] of [[truth]]. There are those who flit from seeking to non-seeking, uncertain of [[self]].
  
There are those who have never begun the journey of seeking.
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There are those who have never begun the [[journey]] of seeking.
  
 
There are those who have just begun. This answers your query?
 
There are those who have just begun. This answers your query?
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"Yes, it does, thank you.
 
"Yes, it does, thank you.
  
"I was also wondering about animals, when they sleep, do they find the stillness, or because their life is simplistic, they don’t need to.
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"I was also [[wondering]] about [[animals]], when they [[sleep]], do they find the [[stillness]], or because their life is simplistic, they don’t need to.
  
Teacher: They operate in a differing manner.
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Teacher: They operate in a differing [[manner]].
  
"Does a cat always come back as a cat, because Zen religion believes you change each time & grow.
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"Does a cat always come back as a cat, because [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Buddhism Zen religion] believes you change each time & [[grow]].
  
Teacher: Within their own species.
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Teacher: Within their own [[species]].
  
 
Selina - Do they have a learning mission to accomplish?
 
Selina - Do they have a learning mission to accomplish?
  
Teacher: They are not as humans, animals re-incarnate within their own species. A horse shall not become re-incarnated as a cat. A horse is a horse is a horse. Buddhism (Zen Japanese religion) change and grow, this is their view of progression of growth of learning, but you see, the growth from a small insect through to a human being, forgetting that a human being may grow through many, many, MANY, periods of growth within the species known as human kind.
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Teacher: They are not as [[humans]], animals re-incarnate within their own [[species]]. A horse shall not become re-incarnated as a cat. A horse is a horse is a horse. [[Buddhism]] ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Buddhism Zen Japanese religion]) [[change]] and [[grow]], this is their view of [[progression]] of [[growth]] of [[learning]], but you see, the growth from a small insect through to a [[human being]], forgetting that a human being may grow through many, many, MANY, periods of growth within the [[species]] known as human kind.
  
If it is with your agreement, you shall take refreshment, I shall return.
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If it is with your [[agreement]], you shall take refreshment, I shall return.
  
 
*TEA BREAK
 
*TEA BREAK
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Teacher: SPEAK.
 
Teacher: SPEAK.
  
Selina - Well, I will tell you about another social event that's coming up. This weekend, we are all hoping to get together as a group, and go to Melda's for an evening meal, perhaps you will be able to join us at that one,
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Selina - Well, I will tell you about another [[social]] [[event]] that's coming up. This weekend, we are all [[hoping]] to get together as a group, and go to Melda's for an evening meal, perhaps you will be able to join us at that one,
  
 
Teacher: Yes.
 
Teacher: Yes.
  
as you missed out on our last journey to the rock shop.
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as you missed out on our last [[journey]] to the rock shop.
  
 
Teacher: Yes.
 
Teacher: Yes.
  
Tommas - , you had some good news this week, you could tell our friends in the room about.
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Tommas - , you had some good news this week, you could tell our [[friends]] in the room about.
  
Tommas - My firm has told me I have $600.00 to spend, as I have worked for them for 20 years. It was due it back in April, but I think they were waiting for me to get my tooth fixed after the accident, and have given up waiting. So we will have to see what we can find, there will be a presentation at work, Wilma was laughing, till I said, you have to come as well, and that took the smile off her face.
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Tommas - My firm has told me I have $600.00 to spend, as I have worked for them for 20 years. It was due it back in April, but I [[think]] they were waiting for me to get my tooth fixed after the [[accident]], and have given up waiting. So we will have to see what we can find, there will be a presentation at [[work]], Wilma was [[laughing]], till I said, you have to come as well, and that took the smile off her face.
  
Teacher: So you receive reward.
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Teacher: So you [[receive]] reward.
  
 
"Yes, for 20 years service to the company, and again at 25 years and at 30….
 
"Yes, for 20 years service to the company, and again at 25 years and at 30….
  
Teacher: And this gives satisfaction.
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Teacher: And this gives [[satisfaction]].
  
"It makes you feel appreciated.
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"It makes you feel [[appreciated]].
  
 
Teacher: But of course.
 
Teacher: But of course.
 
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===='''''[[Self]]'''''====
 
Selina - Has nobody got any questions?
 
Selina - Has nobody got any questions?
  
Charlemont - Yes, I'd like to say something. We were speaking in the interval, I was speaking to somebody, about the lessons, having more than one teacher can confuse, and it occurred to me, after I had finished speaking, that I have always felt nervous of saying to somebody, that I felt we have the ultimate in Abraham, because there are so many other kinds of lessons about, but it has occurred to me just recently, that all the other lessons, that I know I've had, both in the physical and the lessons of occult, have all led to this one teacher, and this one teaching of the mind, is the ultimate, and I don't mean just to me, I think it is the ultimate.
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Charlemont - Yes, I'd like to say something. We were speaking in the [[interval]], I was speaking to somebody, about the lessons, having more than one [[teacher]] can [[confuse]], and it occurred to me, after I had finished speaking, that I have always felt [[Anxiety|nervous]] of saying to somebody, that I felt we have the [[ultimate]] in [[Abraham]], because there are so many other kinds of lessons about, but it has occurred to me just recently, that all the other lessons, that I know I've had, both in the [[physical]] and the lessons of [[occult]], have all led to this one teacher, and this one teaching of the [[mind]], is the [[ultimate]], and I don't mean just to me, I think it is the ultimate.
  
Teacher: Because it is SELF.
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Teacher: Because it is [[Self|SELF]].
  
Yes. And I had always been very cautious of even thinking this, let alone saying it, to anybody else outside of these teachings, because it sounds very
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Yes. And I had always been very [[cautious]] of even [[thinking]] this, let alone saying it, to anybody else outside of these teachings, because it sounds very
  
Teacher: I am understanding. You see, I have said before times, I am your teacher. I have explained the meaning of teacher, which is, one who guides, who gives knowledge, yes? but you, yourself, teaches self.
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Teacher: I am [[understanding]]. You see, I have said before times, I am your teacher. I have [[explained]] the meaning of teacher, which is, one who guides, who gives [[knowledge]], yes? but you, yourself, teaches [[self]].
  
" Yes. I am trying to explain too, that I still am interested in learning music, other occult things, as an interest, and they all add another dimension to the crystal, that is ME, but, this is the centre of the crystal, I realise more than ever now, the deeper I get involved, the more I believe that.
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" Yes. I am trying to [[explain]] too, that I still am interested in learning [[music]], other [[occult]] things, as an interest, and they all add another [[dimension]] to the [[crystal]], that is ME, but, this is the [[centre]] of the [[crystal]], I realise more than ever now, the deeper I get involved, the more I [[believe]] that.
  
 
Teacher: Yes. You are correct.
 
Teacher: Yes. You are correct.
  
You wish to discuss this?
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You wish to [[discuss]] this?
  
Tommas - People who are not as fortunate as us, do they naturally become aware spiritually, or could they just go right through their life with not knowing, if it hadn’t have been for the fact, that I knew Ruby & Charles - personally, I wouldn’t have come, so it's really pure luck, I guess. I wouldn’t have gone to a stranger, because the trust would not have been there.
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Tommas - People who are not as fortunate as us, do they naturally become aware [[spiritually]], or could they just go right through their life with not knowing, if it hadn’t have been for the [[fact]], that I knew Ruby & Charles - [[personally]], I wouldn’t have come, so it's really [[pure]] luck, I guess. I wouldn’t have gone to a stranger, because the [[trust]] would not have been there.
  
Charlemont - I think we could find the same answers through other channels, in other words, there are other ways, of releasing the inner you, we have found what we call Abraham as a teacher, but I'm sure Abraham would say there are others, and other areas where humankind can find the oneness that is. Because there are other books that we have read, that have expressed exactly the same message that we are getting through Abraham's teachings, and these people have found it in other ways.
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Charlemont - I think we could find the same answers through other [[channels]], in other [[words]], there are other ways, of releasing the inner you, we have found what we call Abraham as a teacher, but I'm sure Abraham would say there are others, and other areas where [[humankind]] can find the oneness that is. Because there are other [[books]] that we have read, that have [[expressed]] exactly the same [[message]] that we are getting through Abraham's teachings, and these people have found it in other ways.
  
Tommas - Yes, but you have to want to read, and to search, and I wondered if you would naturally, which I have never felt. Selina - always has.
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Tommas - Yes, but you have to want to [[read]], and to search, and I [[wondered]] if you would naturally, which I have never felt. Selina - always has.
  
Teacher: There may have been, there obviously was a sympathetic cord struck within your soul, Tommas - , to give you the impetuous to commence, yes? and then an added factor of the knowledge of the persons concerned, and having the trust, as you say, is an added impetuous to continue the search yes?
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Teacher: There may have been, there obviously was a [[sympathetic]] cord struck within your [[soul]], Tommas - , to give you the impetuous to commence, yes? and then an added [[factor]] of the [[knowledge]] of the persons concerned, and having the [[trust]], as you say, is an added impetuous to continue the search yes?
  
"I have always known there is something, after the physical, because we had a house in England that had a presence there. It used to knock the door knocker and make the sound of footsteps around the place, but I've never felt to delve or find out what or why.
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"I have always known there is something, after the [[physical]], because we had a house in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England England] that had a [[presence]] there. It used to [[Poltergeist|knock the door knocker]] and make the sound of footsteps around the place, but I've never felt to delve or find out what or why.
  
 
Teacher: Until
 
Teacher: Until
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"Until now.
 
"Until now.
  
Teacher: A sympathetic cord was struck. You are aware of that which it was?
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Teacher: A [[sympathetic]] cord was struck. You are aware of that which it was?
  
 
Well, Selina - doesn’t like driving far, and she wanted to go out to Ruby's place, and I said right, I'll take you.
 
Well, Selina - doesn’t like driving far, and she wanted to go out to Ruby's place, and I said right, I'll take you.
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Tommas - Well you didn’t nag, you wanted to go, you couldn’t get there otherwise.
 
Tommas - Well you didn’t nag, you wanted to go, you couldn’t get there otherwise.
  
Selina - I desperately wanted to go out to Charles - & Ruby's home, to talk to you, because they had told me about you, and I didn’t want to drive, as Tommas - says, I don't like driving, and he only took me because it was Charles - & Ruby, had it have been strangers, he would have said, if you want to go badly enough, you'll go on your own, but because he knew Charles - & Ruby, he was quite prepared to come along and just sit quietly, but when we got there, before the end of the evening, he had questions of his own, you did trigger off the searching in Tommas - , and then, when I came back home that evening, I was telling Dominica about the meeting, she then just couldn’t wait to come & talk to you, herself
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Selina - I desperately wanted to go out to Charles - & Ruby's home, to talk to you, because they had told me about you, and I didn’t want to drive, as Tommas - says, I don't like driving, and he only took me because it was Charles - & Ruby, had it have been strangers, he would have said, if you want to go badly enough, you'll go on your own, but because he knew Charles - & Ruby, he was quite [[prepared]] to come along and just sit [[quietly]], but when we got there, before the end of the evening, he had questions of his own, you did trigger off the searching in Tommas - , and then, when I came back home that evening, I was telling Dominica about the [[meeting]], she then just couldn’t wait to come & talk to you, herself
  
 
Teacher: And so it continues. Yes.
 
Teacher: And so it continues. Yes.
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"Yes
 
"Yes
  
Filip - I was going to say, what about all those that follow the path of Christ, and that direction, because there are a. lot more of those, than there are of us. Is that their path, well it is their path.
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Filip - I was going to say, what about all those that follow the [[path]] of [[Christ]], and that direction, because there are a. lot more of those, than there are of us. Is that their [[path]], well it is their path.
  
Teacher: But of course. . And I query the difference in number?
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Teacher: But of course. . And I query the [[difference]] in [[number]]?
  
"We are more aware of Christ': followers than
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"We are more aware of [[Christ]]': followers than
  
Teacher: Than you are of followers such as yourselves. Correct. But of course they follow their path, and the paths all lead to the one ocean which is God. Some take a precarious route, some lead to shallows and mud flats, some turn back on themselves and return to the point of origin from whence they may join another river, and on and on and on
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Teacher: Than you are of followers such as yourselves. Correct. But of course they follow their [[path]], and the paths all lead to the one [[ocean]] which is [[God]]. Some take a precarious route, some lead to shallows and mud flats, some turn back on themselves and return to the point of [[origin]] from whence they may join another [[river]], and on and on and on
  
"I think that's what I did, went back & joined another river.
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"I think that's what I did, went back & joined another [[river]].
  
Teacher: And Selina - , your exercise?
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Teacher: And Selina - , your [[exercise]]?
  
 
Selina - Yes, Abraham. I've done very well.
 
Selina - Yes, Abraham. I've done very well.
  
(Unrolled a scroll of good points)
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(Unrolled a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scroll scroll] of good points)
  
(Much laughter.)
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(Much [[laughter]].)
  
I didn’t think of anything for some days, and when I thought of the first thing, then I couldn’t stop.
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I didn’t [[think]] of anything for some days, and when I thought of the first thing, then I couldn’t stop.
  
So I started off my good and my positive points with:
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So I started off my good and my [[positive]] points with:
  
1. I think the first thing is, I have a sense of humour. I like to make people laugh, and I don't mind if by making them laugh, I've been the clown or the court jester, if it gets a smile, cheers somebody up, I really don't mind.
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1. I think the first thing is, I have a sense of [[humour]]. I like to make people laugh, and I don't [[mind]] if by making them laugh, I've been the [[clown]] or the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_jester court jester], if it gets a smile, cheers somebody up, I really don't [[mind]].
  
 
2. I'm good at making lists.
 
2. I'm good at making lists.
  
Teacher: I AM AWARE.
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Teacher: I AM [[Aware|AWARE]].
  
I like to make lists because I like to be organised, I try to be efficient, so I write things on calendars, keep diaries and such like.
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I like to make lists because I like to be organised, I try to be [[efficient]], so I [[write]] things on [[calendar]]s, keep [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diary diaries] and such like.
  
Teacher: You shall change that phrase, remove the word TRY. repeat I am efficient.
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Teacher: You shall [[change]] that [[phrase]], remove the word TRY. repeat I am [[efficient]].
  
 
"That is so hard to do.
 
"That is so hard to do.
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Teacher: Repeat.
 
Teacher: Repeat.
  
"I am efficient.
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"I am [[efficient]].
  
 
Teacher: Correct. Continue.
 
Teacher: Correct. Continue.
  
"3. I am a good friend. I keep their secrets, I give advice if asked, and I give them a bed for the night when it's been needed
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"3. I am a good [[friend]]. I keep their [[secrets]], I give [[advice]] if asked, and I give them a bed for the night when it's been needed
  
4. I am good at paying my debts, am honest.
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4. I am good at paying my [[debts]], am [[honest]].
  
 
I'll leave out the next bit.
 
I'll leave out the next bit.
  
Charles - THAT'S NOT BEING HONEST(Much laughter)
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Charles - THAT'S NOT BEING [[Honest|HONEST]] (Much [[laughter]])
  
Selina - Well, I put, I always try to tell the truth, but there's that word TRY, again.
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Selina - Well, I put, I always try to tell the [[truth]], but there's that [[word]] TRY, again.
  
Tommas - Say, I always tell the truth.
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Tommas - Say, I always tell the [[truth]].
  
 
Selina - Well I DON'T ALWAYS tell the truth.
 
Selina - Well I DON'T ALWAYS tell the truth.
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Teacher: Repeat, I ENDEAVOUR TO SPEAK TRUTH
 
Teacher: Repeat, I ENDEAVOUR TO SPEAK TRUTH
  
(Endeavour = to make an earnest attempt or effort)
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(Endeavour = to make an [[earnest]] attempt or [[effort]])
  
Selina - Yes, I endeavour to speak truth, yes that's better.
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Selina - Yes, I endeavour to speak [[truth]], yes that's better.
  
 
Teacher: Correct
 
Teacher: Correct
  
If possible without hurting anyone’s feelings. I will return a favour, keep a promise etc.
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If [[possible]] without hurting anyone’s [[feelings]]. I will return a favour, keep a [[promise]] etc.
  
Selina - 5. I always do a fair day's work for a fair day's pay. Give my employers their monies worth. Always been a good employee.
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Selina - 5. I always do a fair day's work for a fair day's pay. Give my employers their [[monies]] [[worth]]. Always been a good employee.
  
6. I'm quite good at keeping things clean & tidy. Garden, home, etc. I get satisfaction from the work itself, but mostly I get pleasure, it's in the end result for me, seeing things neat & tidy is what I really like.
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6. I'm quite good at keeping things clean & tidy. [[Garden]], [[home]], etc. I get [[satisfaction]] from the [[work]] itself, but mostly I get [[pleasure]], it's in the end result for me, seeing things neat & tidy is what I really like.
  
7. I'm a loving, caring Wife, Mother & Friend. Forgiving of hurts, and I make excuses all the time, for people who have done things, perhaps that have hurt me, and I've said, well perhaps they are ill, or tired or I guess I don't hold a grudge, I think that's what I am trying to say.
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7. I'm a loving, caring Wife, Mother & [[Friend]]. [[Forgiving]] of hurts, and I make [[excuses]] all the time, for people who have done things, perhaps that have hurt me, and I've said, well perhaps they are ill, or tired or I guess I don't hold a grudge, I think that's what I am trying to say.
  
8. I do have a good eye for colour, as Tommas - mentioned last week. I have been asked to decorate people's homes, going as far as choosing expensive items, like carpets & drapes. They seem to think I have good taste and have tried to copy that in some way.
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8. I do have a good eye for [[colour]], as Tommas - mentioned last week. I have been asked to decorate people's [[homes]], going as far as choosing expensive items, like carpets & drapes. They seem to think I have [[good]] taste and have tried to copy that in some way.
  
9. I can say I have good manners
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9. I can say I have [[good]] [[manners]]
  
10. I can say I am good at putting people at their ease, making them comfortable.
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10. I can say I am good at putting people at their ease, making them [[comfortable]].
  
11. And I was told quite recently that I have a good personality, and that was a gift in itself, except I'm not quite sure what was implied by that.
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11. And I was told quite recently that I have a good [[personality]], and that was a gift in itself, except I'm not quite sure what was implied by that.
  
Teacher: All those things you have found for your self, the sum total of your personality.
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Teacher: All those things you have found for your [[self]], the sum total of your [[personality]].
  
Selina - That was the last one, so that worked out well.
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Selina - That was the last one, so that [[worked]] out well.
  
Teacher: So you see, you were confused, thinking you should look for outside.
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Teacher: So you see, you were [[confused]], [[thinking]] you should look for outside.
  
 
"Yes, that's right really, I've got so much, and never knew it
 
"Yes, that's right really, I've got so much, and never knew it
  
Teacher: So, you now have a good picture of your self.
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Teacher: So, you now have a good [[picture]] of your [[self]].
  
 
Yes, I do, thank you Abraham.
 
Yes, I do, thank you Abraham.
  
Teacher: Do not give thanks to me, to your self be thankful.
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Teacher: Do not give thanks to me, to your [[self]] be thankful.
  
Oh! Well I meant, you set me to do the exercise.
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Oh! Well I meant, you set me to do the [[exercise]].
  
 
Teacher: I did????
 
Teacher: I did????
  
Your query led to such.
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Your [[query]] led to such.
  
Well I would like to finish off with a card that Petta - & Mondaa sent me, and the words were just no lovely, I'd like to tell everybody about it in the room, and it starts with:
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Well I would like to finish off with a card that Petta - & Mondaa sent me, and the [[words]] were just so lovely, I'd like to tell everybody about it in the room, and it starts with:
  
There once was a woman who longed to have a flower garden. Each year she would visit her neighbour, who had the most beautiful garden she had ever seen, and he would give her cuttings and seeds for her own garden. But when she would return home, she would change her mind at the last minute, saying," But my neighbours garden is so much lovelier than anything I could hope to grow. And he knows so much more about gardening--I could never hope to grow a garden half so lovely as that. Why should I even try? One day her neighbour stopped by her home and saw that she had not one flower growing anywhere around her house. "I've provided you with so much", he said, "and yet you have done nothing at all with what I have given you!" And so it is with each of us. The Lord gives us talents and expects us to develop them. We cannot judge our worth by comparing ourselves to others, but must bloom and grow the best we can with what we have been given.
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There once was a [[woman]] who longed to have a flower [[garden]]. Each year she would [[visit]] her [[neighbour]], who had the most [[beautiful]] garden she had ever seen, and he would give her cuttings and [[seeds]] for her own garden. But when she would return [[home]], she would [[change]] her [[mind]] at the last minute, saying," But my [[neighbours]] [[garden]] is so much lovelier than anything I could [[hope]] to [[grow]]. And he knows so much more about gardening--I could never [[hope]] to grow a garden half so lovely as that. Why should I even try? One day her [[neighbour]] stopped by her home and saw that she had not one flower growing anywhere around her house. "I've provided you with so much", he said, "and yet you have done nothing at all with what I have given you!" And so it is with each of us. The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord Lord] gives us [[talents]] and [[expects]] us to [[develop]] them. We cannot [[judge]] our worth by comparing ourselves to others, but must bloom and [[grow]] the best we can with what we have been given.
  
 
And inside the card it tells:
 
And inside the card it tells:
  
MayClara - each new day that dawns for you, be an opportunity to use the gifts that God has given, to be the best that you can be.
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MayClara - each new day that [[dawns]] for you, be an [[opportunity]] to use the [[gifts]] that [[God]] has given, to be the best that you can be.
  
Teacher: Yes. As Jesus said, "Some fell on stony ground"
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Teacher: Yes. As [[Jesus]] said, "[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Sower Some fell on stony ground]"
  
I have also said, you are as a flower, each & every one. Tend the flower of your self, with care, with light, with love, and you shall blossom and grow to full beauty, if not tended in such a manner, the flower of your self, shall wither and die, yes.
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I have also said, you are as a flower, each & every one. Tend the flower of your [[self]], with [[care]], with [[light]], with [[love]], and you shall blossom and grow to full [[beauty]], if not tended in such a [[manner]], the flower of your [[self]], shall wither and die, yes.
  
So when feeling sad, when feeling unsure of your self, read your list of your personality, to refresh your self.
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So when [[feeling]] sad, when feeling unsure of your [[self]], read your list of your [[personality]], to refresh your [[self]].
  
And this also you can all do, for your selves. A list such as this, if it is your desire.
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And this also you can all do, for your selves. A list such as this, if it is your [[desire]].
  
Then, there are more queries, or you wish to discuss a particular matter?
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Then, there are more [[queries]], or you wish to [[discuss]] a particular matter?
  
Tommas - I can't think of anything, but would like to say I've had another good week at work, things have gone well, problems just seem to get sorted out, it's been really good.
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Tommas - I can't [[think]] of anything, but would like to say I've had another good week at [[work]], things have gone well, [[problems]] just seem to get sorted out, it's been really good.
  
 
Teacher: So you are finding improvement?
 
Teacher: So you are finding improvement?
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Teacher: Filip - ! You are also finding improvement.
 
Teacher: Filip - ! You are also finding improvement.
  
Filip - Not a great deal at this stage. I am still having frustrations. Which would appear to be my path, it would seem.
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Filip - Not a great deal at this [[stage]]. I am still having [[frustrations]]. Which would appear to be my [[path]], it would seem.
  
Teacher: You wish to discuss these, or you wish not?
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Teacher: You [[wish]] to [[discuss]] these, or you wish not?
  
If you wish not, then perhaps at a some time private appointment, is always available for any of you, if there are certain matters you wish to discuss.
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If you wish not, then perhaps at a some time [[private]] [[appointment]], is always available for any of you, if there are certain matters you wish to [[discuss]].
  
"Some of it goes on from our last appointment, about liking yourself. Loving yourself. Maybe going too far and it becomes ego, that's one thing I've been pondering on, shall we say.
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"Some of it goes on from our last [[appointment]], about liking yourself. Loving yourself. Maybe going too far and it becomes [[ego]], that's one thing I've been [[pondering]] on, shall we say.
  
Teacher: Is this causing you some distress? Filip - Confusion, maybe.
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Teacher: Is this causing you some distress? Filip - [[Confusion]], maybe.
  
Teacher: In which manner?
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Teacher: In which [[manner]]?
  
"I had difficulty understanding how Selina - didn’t like herself, because I've always thought that I liked myself. That I have quite a lot of good points, maybe I've treated people, especially people I've worked for, that I am better, than them. But I have this feeling inside me, that I may be wiser, or more aware or something. I can't put it into words. More then them.
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"I had [[difficulty]] [[understanding]] how Selina - didn’t like herself, because I've always thought that I liked myself. That I have quite a lot of good points, maybe I've treated people, especially people I've worked for, that I am better, than them. But I have this [[feeling]] inside me, that I may be wiser, or more [[aware]] or something. I can't put it into [[words]]. More then them.
  
Teacher: I am understanding.
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Teacher: I am [[understanding]].
  
These are my ponderings this week.
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These are my [[ponderings]] this week.
  
Teacher: And your conclusion?
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Teacher: And your [[conclusion]]?
  
"I still feel I am right, it feels right for me, how I am. My confusion is, am I right?
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"I still [[feel]] I am right, it feels right for me, how I am. My confusion is, am I right?
  
Teacher: It is causing you some pain, this confusion?
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Teacher: It is causing you some [[pain]], this [[confusion]]?
  
"Not pain as such, its disturbance shall we say.
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"Not [[pain]] as such, its disturbance shall we say.
  
Teacher: You are teetering-on the edge of a great discovery for your self.
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Teacher: You are teetering-on the edge of a great [[discovery]] for your [[self]].
  
I give you something on which to ponder, which may help you step into the discovery, with ease.
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I give you something on which to [[ponder]], which may help you step into the [[discovery]], with ease.
  
Omit from your thoughts words such as, better, worse, good, bad, yes? see where this, in your ponderings, may lead you and we shall discuss further at our next appointment. This is of assistance?
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Omit from your [[thoughts]] words such as, better, worse, good, bad, yes? see where this, in your [[ponderings]], may lead you and we shall [[discuss]] further at our next [[appointment]]. This is of [[assistance]]?
  
"It's given me something else to ponder on.
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"It's given me something else to [[ponder]] on.
  
Teacher: Yes. A great discovery awaits you.
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Teacher: Yes. A great [[discovery]] awaits you.
  
Will it be the end of my frustrations though?
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Will it be the end of my [[frustrations]] though?
  
 
Teacher: Perhaps so.
 
Teacher: Perhaps so.
  
For you a discovery, for anyone else, not such, you are understanding?
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For you a [[discovery]], for anyone else, not such, you are [[understanding]]?
  
 
"Yes, I understand.
 
"Yes, I understand.
  
Selina - Abraham, is this similar to what I did last week, Filip - is going to find out something good about himself, that will cheer him up?
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Selina - Abraham, is this similar to what I did last week, Filip - is going to find out something [[good]] about himself, that will [[cheer]] him up?
 
 
Teacher: A discovery for self.
 
  
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Teacher: A [[discovery]] for [[self]].
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===='''''[[Discipline]]'''''====
 
"And out of our 10 lessons, where are we up to?
 
"And out of our 10 lessons, where are we up to?
  
Teacher: Where do you wish to be?
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Teacher: Where do you [[wish]] to be?
  
 
"I thought we were round about number 9, but I've lost track.
 
"I thought we were round about number 9, but I've lost track.
  
Teacher: The end shall come when you decide.
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Teacher: The end shall come when you [[decide]].
  
"I just wondered when you mentioned the commitments, and. the 10 lessons, and possibly 20, if there was going to be a break between, or if the lessons between would be a different form, or course, or if we will just flow on.
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"I just [[wondered]] when you mentioned the [[commitments]], and. the 10 lessons, and possibly 20, if there was going to be a break between, or if the lessons between would be a [[different]] form, or course, or if we will just [[flow]] on.
  
Teacher: It is a continuum. There is no such formal holiday.
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Teacher: It is a [[continuum]]. There is no such [[formal]] holiday.
  
" I wondered why you mentioned the limit in the first place.
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" I [[wondered]] why you mentioned the [[limit]] in the first place.
  
Teacher: To give some, how shall I explain this, to give you some form of structure which humankind are used to using.
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Teacher: To give some, how shall I [[explain]] this, to give you some form of [[structure]] which [[humankind]] are used to using.
  
Filip - Was not your concern the number of people, that's why we said
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Filip - Was not your concern the [[number]] of people, that's why we said
  
Teacher: So it is for your decision, your desires, you’re your continuation
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Teacher: So it is for your [[decision]], your [[desires]], you’re your continuation
  
 
Selina - Well it is with me, I'd like to go on.
 
Selina - Well it is with me, I'd like to go on.
  
Filip - Was there really any doubt?
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Filip - Was there really any [[doubt]]?
  
Teacher: Then perhaps at our next appointment when all shall be present, discussion of where, when, how etc., may take place, yes? Belinda, you are of comfort?
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Teacher: Then perhaps at our next [[appointment]] when all shall be present, [[discussion]] of where, when, how etc., may take place, yes? Belinda, you are of [[comfort]]?
  
 
BelindaYes, thank you.
 
BelindaYes, thank you.
  
Teacher: There is sickness with friends, yes?
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Teacher: There is [[sickness]] with [[friends]], yes?
  
 
Yes, Hagadah, Korde - , Melda, Clara - .
 
Yes, Hagadah, Korde - , Melda, Clara - .
  
 
Teacher: Yes, all is well.
 
Teacher: Yes, all is well.
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===Closing===
 
===Closing===
Then, if there are no more queries, I shall leave you with this:
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Then, if there are no more [[queries]], I shall leave you with this:
  
To give light to self,
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To give [[light]] to [[self]],
  
to give love to self,
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to give [[love]] to [[self]],
  
is to give light to others, to give love to others, through God.
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is to give light to others, to give love to others, through [[God]].
  
Shalom
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[[Shalom]]
  
 
All - Shalom.
 
All - Shalom.
  
Charles - Says closing prayer.
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Charles - Says closing [[prayer]].
  
 
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Topic: Soul Consciousness

Group: New Zealand TeaM

Facilitators

Teacher: Abraham

TR: Babs

Session

Opening

Charles - Opening prayer.

Teacher: I am Abraham, I am your Teacher.

All- Good evening Abraham.

Teacher: You have queries.

Dialogue

Automatic Writing

Petta - - When humans pass to the spirit world, you have taught us that contact through mediums is not direct, as many of us thought. It comes from soul conscious(ness), that being so, how does one get automatic writing, how is it received?

Teacher: Yes, one moment.

Yes, delay caused by Reuben, one moment.

The phenomena known as automatic writing comes by way of soul consciousness, your guide controls the manner off communication easiest to assimilate. This is clear for you?

"Does that mean that when somebody writes in a language that they don't know, that their guide has therefore belonged to that particular country in the past or that the person writings has?

Teacher: The soul consciousness.

"Thank you Abraham.

Teacher: You are welcome.

Filip - Why would a soul consciousness come back into a different country then, so the language was different?

Teacher: There is no language barrier for soul consciousness.

Tommas - It would have been just as possible to write in the language that would have been understood?

Teacher: Soul consciousness would have used the language, used by soul consciousness.

Petta - - So if one wrote German, a past life would have taught them that.

Teacher: Repeat.

If a person did automatic writing in the German language, of which they had no present day knowledge, does this mean that they did learn it, in a passed life?

Teacher: Not particularly. Soul consciousness using the physical as an instrument, would perhaps have been of that language.

"Ah! So it's not your own soul consciousness.

Teacher: Your guide would be the control for such.

"Thank you Abraham, it's clearer for me now.

Teacher: The delay you have experienced between query and answer is attributable to an experience for Ruby. You may continue queries.

Tommas - Is it possible in this life, if you think, In my next life I would like to do such and such a thing, is it possible to do that thing, make plans, or is your future life chosen for you?

Teacher: In the life between physical, you choose.

"So you can't make any decision about it on this plane?

Teacher: Only in as much as what you do now, you reap the reward or non-reward, in the future, which is also in the present and the past.

Seekers

Selina - You told me, when our lessons first started, that I had met Ruby, Tommas - & Martin, before, through similar interests, I never asked you, I don't think, what the similar interests were, what was it that brought us together?

Teacher: What has brought you together this particular life time'

"We are seeking the truth.

Teacher: Yes.

"The same before?

Teacher: Seekers of truth are always seekers Clara - of truth.

"I have done that, but is that in the future, this is a question to confuse Tommas - (joke)

Tommas - I can get confused on my own, thank you.

Teacher: Past, present, future exist at the same time, space. You have your answer.

Selina - Thank you. Can you tell me, at this stage then, anything about Andreas?

Teacher: That depends on what it is, you wish to know.

"Well, I've often asked before, and you always tell me, I have enough to think about, so I'm asking early this lesson I'd like to know something of his last physical life, his work, the year, perhaps the year date he started helping me.

Teacher: To answer your last query first. Andreas has been guiding you since the day of your creation. It is more apt, you should inquire when it was you first became aware of such guidance.

"I felt I would say, just this year.

Teacher: Then so be it.

Filip - When you say creation, do you mean in this lifetime.

Correct. Continue Selina - .

Selina - I was just wondering if I had physically met Andreas, if he had been related to me in any Clara - way, an Uncle, something like that.

Teacher: Not so.

"Well then, his work?

Teacher: One moment. He was a maker of cloth.

"And the year?

Teacher: 6

Filip - 6 A.D . is that?

Teacher: Correct.

Selina - Can you tell me anything about his experiences in his life?

Teacher: Similar to your own, therefore an apt guide.

"Is there anything else that you are allowed to tell me, then I won't ask about him anymore.

Teacher: You may ask again, at another appointment. A little, and often.

Thank you Abraham.

Tommas - A life in the year 6 A.D. would be completely different to the sort of a life that we live.

Teacher: In physical terms perhaps.

Charles - Emotional terms may be similar.

Selina - Well they still have feet, a roof over their heads, and food in their stomachs.

Teacher: Basic humankind needs, wants, desires.

Filip - That really depends on their place on the Earth though.

Teacher: The only difference concerning the place of abode is or would be, the emphasis placed on certain aspects of living physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually, but the same needs exist. You are understanding?

Selina - Yes. What country would that have been called where Andreas was?

Teacher: In the time, the Roman time, in a place called SOMALIA present day name, or past, I am unclear. (East Africa)

"Was Andreas a follower of Jesus then? as Jesus grew older?

Teacher: There were few who knew of Jesus at this time, But a God person, yes. He knew, and loved his God.

"That was nice.

Teacher: Ah! There were many Gods.

"Oh! I see, you mean,...you don't mean that he worshiped an idol though?

Teacher: Not a false idol, rather slight mis-guidance. You may ask at our next appointment.

"Thank you Abraham.

Dominica Abraham, you said that once a truth seeker, always a truth seeker. Those who are not seeking the truth, is it that they are not seeking it in this life; otherwise they will never seek it.

Teacher: There are those who have been always seekers of truth. There are those who flit from seeking to non-seeking, uncertain of self.

There are those who have never begun the journey of seeking.

There are those who have just begun. This answers your query?

"Yes, it does, thank you.

"I was also wondering about animals, when they sleep, do they find the stillness, or because their life is simplistic, they don’t need to.

Teacher: They operate in a differing manner.

"Does a cat always come back as a cat, because Zen religion believes you change each time & grow.

Teacher: Within their own species.

Selina - Do they have a learning mission to accomplish?

Teacher: They are not as humans, animals re-incarnate within their own species. A horse shall not become re-incarnated as a cat. A horse is a horse is a horse. Buddhism (Zen Japanese religion) change and grow, this is their view of progression of growth of learning, but you see, the growth from a small insect through to a human being, forgetting that a human being may grow through many, many, MANY, periods of growth within the species known as human kind.

If it is with your agreement, you shall take refreshment, I shall return.

  • TEA BREAK

Teacher: SPEAK.

Selina - Well, I will tell you about another social event that's coming up. This weekend, we are all hoping to get together as a group, and go to Melda's for an evening meal, perhaps you will be able to join us at that one,

Teacher: Yes.

as you missed out on our last journey to the rock shop.

Teacher: Yes.

Tommas - , you had some good news this week, you could tell our friends in the room about.

Tommas - My firm has told me I have $600.00 to spend, as I have worked for them for 20 years. It was due it back in April, but I think they were waiting for me to get my tooth fixed after the accident, and have given up waiting. So we will have to see what we can find, there will be a presentation at work, Wilma was laughing, till I said, you have to come as well, and that took the smile off her face.

Teacher: So you receive reward.

"Yes, for 20 years service to the company, and again at 25 years and at 30….

Teacher: And this gives satisfaction.

"It makes you feel appreciated.

Teacher: But of course.

Self

Selina - Has nobody got any questions?

Charlemont - Yes, I'd like to say something. We were speaking in the interval, I was speaking to somebody, about the lessons, having more than one teacher can confuse, and it occurred to me, after I had finished speaking, that I have always felt nervous of saying to somebody, that I felt we have the ultimate in Abraham, because there are so many other kinds of lessons about, but it has occurred to me just recently, that all the other lessons, that I know I've had, both in the physical and the lessons of occult, have all led to this one teacher, and this one teaching of the mind, is the ultimate, and I don't mean just to me, I think it is the ultimate.

Teacher: Because it is SELF.

Yes. And I had always been very cautious of even thinking this, let alone saying it, to anybody else outside of these teachings, because it sounds very

Teacher: I am understanding. You see, I have said before times, I am your teacher. I have explained the meaning of teacher, which is, one who guides, who gives knowledge, yes? but you, yourself, teaches self.

" Yes. I am trying to explain too, that I still am interested in learning music, other occult things, as an interest, and they all add another dimension to the crystal, that is ME, but, this is the centre of the crystal, I realise more than ever now, the deeper I get involved, the more I believe that.

Teacher: Yes. You are correct.

You wish to discuss this?

Tommas - People who are not as fortunate as us, do they naturally become aware spiritually, or could they just go right through their life with not knowing, if it hadn’t have been for the fact, that I knew Ruby & Charles - personally, I wouldn’t have come, so it's really pure luck, I guess. I wouldn’t have gone to a stranger, because the trust would not have been there.

Charlemont - I think we could find the same answers through other channels, in other words, there are other ways, of releasing the inner you, we have found what we call Abraham as a teacher, but I'm sure Abraham would say there are others, and other areas where humankind can find the oneness that is. Because there are other books that we have read, that have expressed exactly the same message that we are getting through Abraham's teachings, and these people have found it in other ways.

Tommas - Yes, but you have to want to read, and to search, and I wondered if you would naturally, which I have never felt. Selina - always has.

Teacher: There may have been, there obviously was a sympathetic cord struck within your soul, Tommas - , to give you the impetuous to commence, yes? and then an added factor of the knowledge of the persons concerned, and having the trust, as you say, is an added impetuous to continue the search yes?

"I have always known there is something, after the physical, because we had a house in England that had a presence there. It used to knock the door knocker and make the sound of footsteps around the place, but I've never felt to delve or find out what or why.

Teacher: Until

"Until now.

Teacher: A sympathetic cord was struck. You are aware of that which it was?

Well, Selina - doesn’t like driving far, and she wanted to go out to Ruby's place, and I said right, I'll take you.

Selina - So I nagged him.

Tommas - Well you didn’t nag, you wanted to go, you couldn’t get there otherwise.

Selina - I desperately wanted to go out to Charles - & Ruby's home, to talk to you, because they had told me about you, and I didn’t want to drive, as Tommas - says, I don't like driving, and he only took me because it was Charles - & Ruby, had it have been strangers, he would have said, if you want to go badly enough, you'll go on your own, but because he knew Charles - & Ruby, he was quite prepared to come along and just sit quietly, but when we got there, before the end of the evening, he had questions of his own, you did trigger off the searching in Tommas - , and then, when I came back home that evening, I was telling Dominica about the meeting, she then just couldn’t wait to come & talk to you, herself

Teacher: And so it continues. Yes.

"Yes

Filip - I was going to say, what about all those that follow the path of Christ, and that direction, because there are a. lot more of those, than there are of us. Is that their path, well it is their path.

Teacher: But of course. . And I query the difference in number?

"We are more aware of Christ': followers than

Teacher: Than you are of followers such as yourselves. Correct. But of course they follow their path, and the paths all lead to the one ocean which is God. Some take a precarious route, some lead to shallows and mud flats, some turn back on themselves and return to the point of origin from whence they may join another river, and on and on and on

"I think that's what I did, went back & joined another river.

Teacher: And Selina - , your exercise?

Selina - Yes, Abraham. I've done very well.

(Unrolled a scroll of good points)

(Much laughter.)

I didn’t think of anything for some days, and when I thought of the first thing, then I couldn’t stop.

So I started off my good and my positive points with:

1. I think the first thing is, I have a sense of humour. I like to make people laugh, and I don't mind if by making them laugh, I've been the clown or the court jester, if it gets a smile, cheers somebody up, I really don't mind.

2. I'm good at making lists.

Teacher: I AM AWARE.

I like to make lists because I like to be organised, I try to be efficient, so I write things on calendars, keep diaries and such like.

Teacher: You shall change that phrase, remove the word TRY. repeat I am efficient.

"That is so hard to do.

Teacher: Repeat.

"I am efficient.

Teacher: Correct. Continue.

"3. I am a good friend. I keep their secrets, I give advice if asked, and I give them a bed for the night when it's been needed

4. I am good at paying my debts, am honest.

I'll leave out the next bit.

Charles - THAT'S NOT BEING HONEST (Much laughter)

Selina - Well, I put, I always try to tell the truth, but there's that word TRY, again.

Tommas - Say, I always tell the truth.

Selina - Well I DON'T ALWAYS tell the truth.

Teacher: Repeat, I ENDEAVOUR TO SPEAK TRUTH

(Endeavour = to make an earnest attempt or effort)

Selina - Yes, I endeavour to speak truth, yes that's better.

Teacher: Correct

If possible without hurting anyone’s feelings. I will return a favour, keep a promise etc.

Selina - 5. I always do a fair day's work for a fair day's pay. Give my employers their monies worth. Always been a good employee.

6. I'm quite good at keeping things clean & tidy. Garden, home, etc. I get satisfaction from the work itself, but mostly I get pleasure, it's in the end result for me, seeing things neat & tidy is what I really like.

7. I'm a loving, caring Wife, Mother & Friend. Forgiving of hurts, and I make excuses all the time, for people who have done things, perhaps that have hurt me, and I've said, well perhaps they are ill, or tired or I guess I don't hold a grudge, I think that's what I am trying to say.

8. I do have a good eye for colour, as Tommas - mentioned last week. I have been asked to decorate people's homes, going as far as choosing expensive items, like carpets & drapes. They seem to think I have good taste and have tried to copy that in some way.

9. I can say I have good manners

10. I can say I am good at putting people at their ease, making them comfortable.

11. And I was told quite recently that I have a good personality, and that was a gift in itself, except I'm not quite sure what was implied by that.

Teacher: All those things you have found for your self, the sum total of your personality.

Selina - That was the last one, so that worked out well.

Teacher: So you see, you were confused, thinking you should look for outside.

"Yes, that's right really, I've got so much, and never knew it

Teacher: So, you now have a good picture of your self.

Yes, I do, thank you Abraham.

Teacher: Do not give thanks to me, to your self be thankful.

Oh! Well I meant, you set me to do the exercise.

Teacher: I did????

Your query led to such.

Well I would like to finish off with a card that Petta - & Mondaa sent me, and the words were just so lovely, I'd like to tell everybody about it in the room, and it starts with:

There once was a woman who longed to have a flower garden. Each year she would visit her neighbour, who had the most beautiful garden she had ever seen, and he would give her cuttings and seeds for her own garden. But when she would return home, she would change her mind at the last minute, saying," But my neighbours garden is so much lovelier than anything I could hope to grow. And he knows so much more about gardening--I could never hope to grow a garden half so lovely as that. Why should I even try? One day her neighbour stopped by her home and saw that she had not one flower growing anywhere around her house. "I've provided you with so much", he said, "and yet you have done nothing at all with what I have given you!" And so it is with each of us. The Lord gives us talents and expects us to develop them. We cannot judge our worth by comparing ourselves to others, but must bloom and grow the best we can with what we have been given.

And inside the card it tells:

MayClara - each new day that dawns for you, be an opportunity to use the gifts that God has given, to be the best that you can be.

Teacher: Yes. As Jesus said, "Some fell on stony ground"

I have also said, you are as a flower, each & every one. Tend the flower of your self, with care, with light, with love, and you shall blossom and grow to full beauty, if not tended in such a manner, the flower of your self, shall wither and die, yes.

So when feeling sad, when feeling unsure of your self, read your list of your personality, to refresh your self.

And this also you can all do, for your selves. A list such as this, if it is your desire.

Then, there are more queries, or you wish to discuss a particular matter?

Tommas - I can't think of anything, but would like to say I've had another good week at work, things have gone well, problems just seem to get sorted out, it's been really good.

Teacher: So you are finding improvement?

"Yes.

Teacher: Filip - ! You are also finding improvement.

Filip - Not a great deal at this stage. I am still having frustrations. Which would appear to be my path, it would seem.

Teacher: You wish to discuss these, or you wish not?

If you wish not, then perhaps at a some time private appointment, is always available for any of you, if there are certain matters you wish to discuss.

"Some of it goes on from our last appointment, about liking yourself. Loving yourself. Maybe going too far and it becomes ego, that's one thing I've been pondering on, shall we say.

Teacher: Is this causing you some distress? Filip - Confusion, maybe.

Teacher: In which manner?

"I had difficulty understanding how Selina - didn’t like herself, because I've always thought that I liked myself. That I have quite a lot of good points, maybe I've treated people, especially people I've worked for, that I am better, than them. But I have this feeling inside me, that I may be wiser, or more aware or something. I can't put it into words. More then them.

Teacher: I am understanding.

These are my ponderings this week.

Teacher: And your conclusion?

"I still feel I am right, it feels right for me, how I am. My confusion is, am I right?

Teacher: It is causing you some pain, this confusion?

"Not pain as such, its disturbance shall we say.

Teacher: You are teetering-on the edge of a great discovery for your self.

I give you something on which to ponder, which may help you step into the discovery, with ease.

Omit from your thoughts words such as, better, worse, good, bad, yes? see where this, in your ponderings, may lead you and we shall discuss further at our next appointment. This is of assistance?

"It's given me something else to ponder on.

Teacher: Yes. A great discovery awaits you.

Will it be the end of my frustrations though?

Teacher: Perhaps so.

For you a discovery, for anyone else, not such, you are understanding?

"Yes, I understand.

Selina - Abraham, is this similar to what I did last week, Filip - is going to find out something good about himself, that will cheer him up?

Teacher: A discovery for self.

Discipline

"And out of our 10 lessons, where are we up to?

Teacher: Where do you wish to be?

"I thought we were round about number 9, but I've lost track.

Teacher: The end shall come when you decide.

"I just wondered when you mentioned the commitments, and. the 10 lessons, and possibly 20, if there was going to be a break between, or if the lessons between would be a different form, or course, or if we will just flow on.

Teacher: It is a continuum. There is no such formal holiday.

" I wondered why you mentioned the limit in the first place.

Teacher: To give some, how shall I explain this, to give you some form of structure which humankind are used to using.

Filip - Was not your concern the number of people, that's why we said

Teacher: So it is for your decision, your desires, you’re your continuation

Selina - Well it is with me, I'd like to go on.

Filip - Was there really any doubt?

Teacher: Then perhaps at our next appointment when all shall be present, discussion of where, when, how etc., may take place, yes? Belinda, you are of comfort?

BelindaYes, thank you.

Teacher: There is sickness with friends, yes?

Yes, Hagadah, Korde - , Melda, Clara - .

Teacher: Yes, all is well.

Closing

Then, if there are no more queries, I shall leave you with this:

To give light to self,

to give love to self,

is to give light to others, to give love to others, through God.

Shalom

All - Shalom.

Charles - Says closing prayer.