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==Heading==
===Topic: ''Dependency''===
===Group: [[New Zealand TeaM]]===
==Facilitators==
===Teacher: [[Abraham]]===
===TR: [[Unknown]]===
==Session==
===Opening===
Charles: Opening prayer.
Charles: Opening prayer.
Teacher: Then there are queries?
Teacher: Then there are queries?
===Dialogue===
Tommas: After your words last week, I have left my work mate alone, with his cigarettes, he has been looking at me sheepishly and wondering why I am not saying anything, so I just said to him, it's your free will, if you want to smoke, you go to it, He says he is still going to try & give it up, but I haven’t nagged him.
Tommas: After your words last week, I have left my work mate alone, with his cigarettes, he has been looking at me sheepishly and wondering why I am not saying anything, so I just said to him, it's your free will, if you want to smoke, you go to it, He says he is still going to try & give it up, but I haven’t nagged him.
Teacher: One moment. Northern, of the Americas, I have.
Teacher: One moment. Northern, of the Americas, I have.
Thank you Abraham, Could you put a year date for me please?
Teacher: One moment. 1, 5, 5, 9
Teacher: One moment. 1, 5, 5, 9
Thank you Abraham.
Teacher: A. D( 1559 A.D. )
Teacher: A. D( 1559 A.D. )
Thank you very much Abraham.
Teacher: You are welcome, this is not the year of birth or death in your terms. It is but a year date during the life time.
Teacher: You are welcome, this is not the year of birth or death in your terms. It is but a year date during the life time.
You are understanding this is of importance, this information for you?
You are understanding this is of importance, this information for you?
Yes.
Teacher: With this information you may come to know yourself, which is soul, and your guidance which guides your path. One moment.
Teacher: With this information you may come to know yourself, which is soul, and your guidance which guides your path. One moment.
The name of your soul is, and was, from the beginning, Aldiin, you wish letters?
The name of your soul is, and was, from the beginning, Aldiin, you wish letters?
Yes, please.
Teacher: A L D I I N(Aldeen)
Teacher: A L D I I N(Aldeen)
One moment. The name of your guide is FREDREK he is happy to communicate in the stillness.
One moment. The name of your guide is FREDREK he is happy to communicate in the stillness.
Thank you Abraham.
Teacher: You are understanding the name ALDIIN is significant in its vibration.
Teacher: You are understanding the name ALDIIN is significant in its vibration.
Others shall say, you may not receive such information. I jest.
Others shall say, you may not receive such information. I jest.
Thank you,
Selina Abraham, Aldiin is a visitor to our city, if he has questions, can we ask them on his behalf
Selina Abraham, Aldiin is a visitor to our city, if he has questions, can we ask them on his behalf
Teacher: Of course.
Teacher: Of course.
Thank you.
Teacher: You had not doubts of this.
Teacher: You had not doubts of this.
Teacher: So I say, of course. If there are doubts, then it perhaps is not correct, because there is not comfort. If there is comfort, then it is correct, yes
Teacher: So I say, of course. If there are doubts, then it perhaps is not correct, because there is not comfort. If there is comfort, then it is correct, yes
The message I get with my other guide Anthony, is the word FORTITUDE
Teacher: You see, there are many qualities, yes, your guidance is chosen for certain lessons, having mastered certain qualities and so they guide you through your life experience and so perhaps you are in need of guidance for fortitude. Guidance of purity, yes. As are all. Fortitude to halt the climbing on your bandwagon, Melda. Purity in your heart to understand the necessity for fortitude, yes
Teacher: You see, there are many qualities, yes, your guidance is chosen for certain lessons, having mastered certain qualities and so they guide you through your life experience and so perhaps you are in need of guidance for fortitude. Guidance of purity, yes. As are all. Fortitude to halt the climbing on your bandwagon, Melda. Purity in your heart to understand the necessity for fortitude, yes
Teacher: Awake, not awake, yes.
Teacher: Awake, not awake, yes.
It was mentioned before, that sometimes when we are asleep they will leave us.
Teacher: They do not wander far. They are always on call,
Teacher: They do not wander far. They are always on call,
Teacher: No. I tell you how many you have at this present time space. There are potential guidance awaiting in the wings, so to speak, which you may or may not call on, dependent on your will and the path you take. You are understanding ?
Teacher: No. I tell you how many you have at this present time space. There are potential guidance awaiting in the wings, so to speak, which you may or may not call on, dependent on your will and the path you take. You are understanding ?
Yes.
Teacher: You wish the number for the present time space?
Teacher: You wish the number for the present time space?
Yes please.
Teacher: Eleven. There is one, who is most contact for you, the others are also at hand giving support for Jeremiah, for you. Yes.
Teacher: Eleven. There is one, who is most contact for you, the others are also at hand giving support for Jeremiah, for you. Yes.
And do the guides in the physical sense contact certain parts of the body, each guide a different part?
Teacher: If it is necessary for them to do this, yes. It is not always of necessity.
Teacher: If it is necessary for them to do this, yes. It is not always of necessity.
I was wondering of the connection between certain persons have certain ailments through their life and whenever an illness takes place its sometimes in that one particular persons area they suffer most in, such as headaches, backaches, feet, and I just wondered if there was any connection between those areas and the guidance.
Teacher: Energy centres of the body.
Teacher: Energy centres of the body.
Yes.
Teacher: Chakras I believe is a common term.
Teacher: Chakras I believe is a common term.
Teacher: Not always, no. Guidance use your intuition, the inner voice.
Teacher: Not always, no. Guidance use your intuition, the inner voice.
Can you tell me then, the necessity for more than one guide to help, if they work through the intuitive senses is it because of the wisdom of their own existences? Collective knowledge
Correct.
Correct.
As with you seeking help with a query, you would call on help to answer certain queries?
Teacher: I contact the guidance present, to gain access to the terminals.
Teacher: I contact the guidance present, to gain access to the terminals.
Teacher: Correct. And your own higher consciousness.
Teacher: Correct. And your own higher consciousness.
Charlemont?
Teacher: Correct. You see, we speak of the soul and of the physical. You are used to thinking of your selves as physical human kind. You are learning, there is another part of you, called soul, self. Do not think of these two parts as separate. Rather think of your selves as a whole personality. Knowledge of self, knowledge of the physical. You are understanding? You are not understanding
Teacher: Correct. You see, we speak of the soul and of the physical. You are used to thinking of your selves as physical human kind. You are learning, there is another part of you, called soul, self. Do not think of these two parts as separate. Rather think of your selves as a whole personality. Knowledge of self, knowledge of the physical. You are understanding? You are not understanding
Teacher: Correct. Because in the self, the light, which is truth, which is love, which is God, resides. The door is opened and this light shines encasing you in light, which can be observed by many, yes.
Teacher: Correct. Because in the self, the light, which is truth, which is love, which is God, resides. The door is opened and this light shines encasing you in light, which can be observed by many, yes.
The vibrations we have, we are told people have good vibrations, which can be picked up in the same manner as the light being seen, how does that tally with the light vibrations of our soul name. Can a persons vibrations change as he gains truth and wisdom?
Teacher: The vibration of soul name remains constant. What occurs is this. When the light, which is vibration, wave length, yes?, reaches a pure light, it matches the vibration wave length of your soul name, yes and become very obvious, but never forgetting that human kind emotions, thoughts, actions, may still effect this light, causing it to shrink, to vibrate at a faster or slower rate, yes ?
Teacher: The vibration of soul name remains constant. What occurs is this. When the light, which is vibration, wave length, yes?, reaches a pure light, it matches the vibration wave length of your soul name, yes and become very obvious, but never forgetting that human kind emotions, thoughts, actions, may still effect this light, causing it to shrink, to vibrate at a faster or slower rate, yes ?
Thank you Abraham.
PettaI think one of the hardest things is when your vibrations don't match another’s, somebody that you have just met, and you suddenly get this dreadful feeling that you are not compatible, your vibes, or whatever you want to say, I find it very hard to be normal, shall I put it that way.
PettaI think one of the hardest things is when your vibrations don't match another’s, somebody that you have just met, and you suddenly get this dreadful feeling that you are not compatible, your vibes, or whatever you want to say, I find it very hard to be normal, shall I put it that way.
And this is one of our concerns, yes.
And this is one of our concerns, yes.
Because the Waikato area is in a valley, are we at greater risk than those say in Auckland with the sea on either side?
Teacher: One moment. I must geographically compute. One moment. Ah yes, without causing alarm, you are correct.
Teacher: One moment. I must geographically compute. One moment. Ah yes, without causing alarm, you are correct.
Teacher: You may. I shall return, I shall not however, depart.
Teacher: You may. I shall return, I shall not however, depart.
===Tea Break===
===Dialogue===
Teacher: Clara, you wish discussion?
Teacher: Clara, you wish discussion?
Teacher: Commence.
Teacher: Commence.
Is there 7 levels of consciousness, or is there more? I'd like to understand it better.
Teacher: This is in reference to the planes we have discussed before times?
Teacher: This is in reference to the planes we have discussed before times?
Yes.
Teacher: You have but given them a differing title. What is it you wish for understanding?
Teacher: You have but given them a differing title. What is it you wish for understanding?
As we learn, do we develop to a different level or do we have to go through reincarnation to go through, up levels or can we reach those levels on this earth, at this time?
Teacher: Yes. It is possible to reach or pass through each in your present life journey. During the life between physical journies you also have the possibility to pass through each and so on and on. What experience each time, is a deepening awareness of each. And throughout your life journey you may pass through each, and return again to any level in your words, to re-fathom and to reach a further depth, you are understanding?
Teacher: Yes. It is possible to reach or pass through each in your present life journey. During the life between physical journies you also have the possibility to pass through each and so on and on. What experience each time, is a deepening awareness of each. And throughout your life journey you may pass through each, and return again to any level in your words, to re-fathom and to reach a further depth, you are understanding?
Teacher: This is correct.
Teacher: This is correct.
Could I ask at what level I would be on now?
Teacher: I have no need to answer your query. You are aware of this for yourself, and as I have said, each person has the possibility of travelling through each and returning to any of each level for a further depth of understanding.
Teacher: I have no need to answer your query. You are aware of this for yourself, and as I have said, each person has the possibility of travelling through each and returning to any of each level for a further depth of understanding.
Thank you.
Teacher: This is clear for you,
Teacher: This is clear for you,
Yes.
Teacher: There are other queries concerning this matter? You are all understanding?
Teacher: There are other queries concerning this matter? You are all understanding?
Your soul part, the essence of you, is attached to your physical body, rather as the unborn babe is attached to the physical body of the mother, yes? At times it is possible for soul to leave the confines of the physical body and go a journey of discovery for self. It is possible to be aware in the lower mind of this occurrence. It is possible not to be aware in the lower mind of this occurrence, but it is highly probable that self is aware of this occurrence.You are understanding?
Your soul part, the essence of you, is attached to your physical body, rather as the unborn babe is attached to the physical body of the mother, yes? At times it is possible for soul to leave the confines of the physical body and go a journey of discovery for self. It is possible to be aware in the lower mind of this occurrence. It is possible not to be aware in the lower mind of this occurrence, but it is highly probable that self is aware of this occurrence.You are understanding?
The most common we hear of are people that can see themselves, looking down in a room, they will see their physical self.
Teacher: Correct.
Teacher: Correct.
And others say they have gone on the most incredible journies.
Teacher: Correct.
Teacher: Correct.
What would lower mind learn from such things, just another dimension that higher mind is, consciousness is.
Teacher: If lower mind is aware of this journey of self, it is learning of self, awareness of self, acceptance of self, and all there is. And how important self is, yes.
Teacher: If lower mind is aware of this journey of self, it is learning of self, awareness of self, acceptance of self, and all there is. And how important self is, yes.
And by "miracle", the physical functions continue and there is a hint of an awareness that this has occurred. At times a very vivid awareness, at others none at all.
And by "miracle", the physical functions continue and there is a hint of an awareness that this has occurred. At times a very vivid awareness, at others none at all.
I wondered how this tied in with earlier statements Discussion of guides, where I'm sure everybody has experienced times when an inner voice has guided us in another direction away from a bad happening somewhere in the physical and I wonder whether that is guide tapping into higher self or just the higher consciousness knowing of this and nudging the physical away from that direction. Are these related in anyway to guidance, higher consciousness and even in some form of astral travel with higher consciousness, they'd know something was there?
Teacher: There is some confusion here.
Teacher: There is some confusion here.
Yes, I'm trying to relate three things together here wondering if they have a thin web joining in some way.
Teacher: At times, there is a premonition of an event. This may be due to warning or guidance, and heeding of warning. At times, it is from an astral travel journey which has seen an event, and acknowledged by the physical, and heeded. At times, it is by guidance.
Teacher: At times, there is a premonition of an event. This may be due to warning or guidance, and heeding of warning. At times, it is from an astral travel journey which has seen an event, and acknowledged by the physical, and heeded. At times, it is by guidance.
Thank you, that's what I thought.
Teacher: And most often by guidance, heeded, not heeded, more often, not heeded.
Teacher: And most often by guidance, heeded, not heeded, more often, not heeded.
If it is your desire. As with all guidance, they do not inflict their will on yours. They may nudge, and if not heeded, they can do no more than wait until such time as you become aware and desirous of their guidance.
If it is your desire. As with all guidance, they do not inflict their will on yours. They may nudge, and if not heeded, they can do no more than wait until such time as you become aware and desirous of their guidance.
How can I obtain their guidance?
Teacher: In the stillness. You are aware of the stillness?
Teacher: In the stillness. You are aware of the stillness?
Not completely.
Teacher: Charlemont perhaps you will enlighten.
Teacher: Charlemont perhaps you will enlighten.
Teacher: At the end of our appointment.
Teacher: At the end of our appointment.
Yes, certainly.
Teacher: This is of satisfaction.
Teacher: This is of satisfaction.
Teacher: One moment. Furrier by trade.
Teacher: One moment. Furrier by trade.
As in furs.
Teacher: Skins, furs, correct.
Teacher: Skins, furs, correct.
Thank you Abraham.
PettaBelinda & I have both been thinking about abstract, and we were wondering if it was because neither of us have formed a picture of our guide, we are content to know our guide is there, without forming a picture is this why you say abstract because they are there in our mind, but we do not view them with a body or features.
PettaBelinda & I have both been thinking about abstract, and we were wondering if it was because neither of us have formed a picture of our guide, we are content to know our guide is there, without forming a picture is this why you say abstract because they are there in our mind, but we do not view them with a body or features.
Teacher: You have solved your problem.
Teacher: You have solved your problem.
As you said, it was simple.
Teacher: Of course, and you see, for some, it is not of importance to have a physical view of guidance.
Teacher: Of course, and you see, for some, it is not of importance to have a physical view of guidance.
Teacher: Correct.You see, similar lesson learned, similar path trod.
Teacher: Correct.You see, similar lesson learned, similar path trod.
So if you know yourself, then you know your guide?
Teacher: More or less. The best person for the job.
Teacher: More or less. The best person for the job.
Teacher: You become confused
Teacher: You become confused
Yes, you mentioned last week, I think it was, that we should always feel comfortable, and we'd know if we have made the right decision. I don't know whether I am alone in this, but often, if I am indecisive, the decision has been wrong, but I've felt comfortable with the decision, though it has been wrong, well I hadn’t found that applicable to me, I am a confused sort of person in fact, and I wondered if my guide was that way as well.
Teacher: Not so, perhaps you are not contacting your guidance as well as you had thought. And this is not castigation. When confusion comes, when indecision comes, and then is the time to contact guidance for clarity, for decision, yes,
Teacher: Not so, perhaps you are not contacting your guidance as well as you had thought. And this is not castigation. When confusion comes, when indecision comes, and then is the time to contact guidance for clarity, for decision, yes,
Thank you.
Teacher: You are welcome.
Teacher: You are welcome.
Teacher: The light, which is truth, which is love, which is GOD
Teacher: The light, which is truth, which is love, which is GOD
So our guides are guided by the source then?
As are you, yourself.
As are you, yourself.
Teacher: And what of Filip, he ponders still?
Teacher: And what of Filip, he ponders still?
Good question. Actually I was going to bring up the thing he was discussing last week, with you. It really concerns free will on my part. I feel that I am being, my free will is being taken away ay the decision that I am being asked to make, and my decision is not really the same as Filip’s, and I' m wondering if I stick with my decision, is it the right way.
Teacher: Yes, when a 3rd person, is concerned, and I assume this is correct, the other person should be consulted, and free will of that person should be consulted also, for a joint decision making exercise.
Teacher: Yes, when a 3rd person, is concerned, and I assume this is correct, the other person should be consulted, and free will of that person should be consulted also, for a joint decision making exercise.
Yes, it's sort of two against one, I feel,
Teacher: Yes. You are receiving assistance for this.
Teacher: Yes. You are receiving assistance for this.
Yes, sort of. But I don't know whether the assistance is going to be of use.
Teacher: You have a battle of will.
Teacher: You have a battle of will.
Teacher: And what is battle, conflict, and what do you have with conflict, victims, refugees. There are never conquerors, but there may come a peaceful resolution from revolution.
Teacher: And what is battle, conflict, and what do you have with conflict, victims, refugees. There are never conquerors, but there may come a peaceful resolution from revolution.
This isn’t really my problem, because I don't feel I have a problem, it’s more the other two parties that are in conflict. I appear to be in the middle, trying to keep the peace.
Teacher: You are meditating. The runner, the message bearer, not an enviable position. It is possible for you to remove yourself from this position, and to become a spectator.
Teacher: You are meditating. The runner, the message bearer, not an enviable position. It is possible for you to remove yourself from this position, and to become a spectator.
Teacher: The slings and arrows of conflict, do not direct them towards yourself. Remove yourself, if possible in. emotion and thought, not of necessity of the physical, stand aside.You know the situation; it is for you to decide. Using the assistance you receive.
Teacher: The slings and arrows of conflict, do not direct them towards yourself. Remove yourself, if possible in. emotion and thought, not of necessity of the physical, stand aside.You know the situation; it is for you to decide. Using the assistance you receive.
So my decision will not necessarily be the wrong one.
Teacher: Correct.
Teacher: Correct.
And yet, Filip last week, did feel that his decision was the right one, and yet it's not as it's the opposite to mine.
Teacher: And what of the 3rd person
Teacher: And what of the 3rd person
He feels a similar thing to me.
It is of a complicated matter.
It is of a complicated matter.
I'll just stand aside like you suggest arid take it from there.
Teacher: Arm yourself with calm.
Teacher: Arm yourself with calm.
I could try the figure 8 of light around the other two parties, couldn’t I?
Teacher: You could. I wish you well in your endeavours. There are more queries?
Teacher: You could. I wish you well in your endeavours. There are more queries?
MeldaYes.
MeldaYes.
===Closing===
Teacher: Yes. Then, if there are no more queries, I shall leave you with this: -
Teacher: Yes. Then, if there are no more queries, I shall leave you with this: -
Teacher:
Teacher:
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