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===Opening===

===Opening===

===='''''[[Teacher Contact]]'''''====

===='''''[[Teacher Contact]]'''''====

RAYSON: Good evening, children; this is [[Rayson]]. Your [[teacher]] will be here momentarily. He is on assignment in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentina Argentina]. There is much happening in [[preparation]] for the [[events]] that will be forthcoming in the next few months. I will let [[Welmek]] decide whether or not he will [[share]] with you some of what he has been up to. ([[laughter]]) I wish to make a comment to the [[group]] as to your [[understanding]] of [[contact]] with us. There has been much [[confusion]]. There has been many [[inquiries]] amongst yourselves as to what is [[real]], what is not and what is [[expected]], [[anticipated]].

RAYSON: Good evening, children; this is [[Rayson]]. Your [[teacher]] will be here momentarily. He is on assignment in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentina Argentina]. There is much happening in [[preparation]] for the [[events]] that will be forthcoming in the next few months. I will let [[Welmek]] decide whether or not he will [[share]] with you some of what he has been up to. ([[laughter]]) I wish to make a comment to the [[group]] as to your [[understanding]] of [[contact]] with us. There has been much [[confusion]]. There has been many [[inquiries]] amongst yourselves as to what is [[real]], what is not and what is [[expected]], [[anticipated]].

===Lesson===

===Lesson===

First, it should be known that if you are willing, we [[desire]] to make [[contact]] at some point in time. It is not [[necessary]] that all of you do what David and Michael do. However, it is important that we are able to make this contact if possible. Some of you have asked the [[question]] "Why have I not [[received]] [[communication]] thus far?"

First, it should be known that if you are willing, we [[desire]] to make [[contact]] at some point in time. It is not [[necessary]] that all of you do what David and Michael do. However, it is important that we are able to make this contact if possible. Some of you have asked the [[question]] "Why have I not [[received]] [[communication]] thus far?"

Q: Not necessarily, but succeeding is....the [[problem]]. W: So let's take a few examples and [[discuss]] them. Who [[wishes]] to begin?

Q: Not necessarily, but succeeding is....the [[problem]]. W: So let's take a few examples and [[discuss]] them. Who [[wishes]] to begin?

===='''''[[Tradition]]''''', '''''[[Growth]]'''''====

===='''''[[Tradition]]''''', '''''[[Growth]]'''''====

Q: I'll go first [[Welmek]]. Since I was going to ask you this in a [[private]] session, I might as well do it now. Maybe it'll help everybody. Peter and I were discussing, you know we're both [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism Mormons], and a week ago Sunday I went into Cheryl's [[problems]] at [[church]]. That caused real [[difficulties]] for me because we both [[feel]] like we're leading double lives. We come here because we get [[spiritual]] [[growth]] and spiritual [[food]], but yet there's this hanging on to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism Mormon Church] because of all the [[time]], [[energy]] and [[effort]] and the years that I've put into it. And so I kind of [[feel]] this double image. I know from what was said in Salt Lake when we were out there, or Orem rather, that if the [[church]] ever finds that I'm coming here, they have already [[banned]] the [[Urantia Book]]; and if they find that I'm [[talking]] with you, they will [[literally]] [[excommunicate]] both of us, just because I [[believe]] in something they don't. I don't know how to get over that one, around it, under it, over it. I know there's a [[choice]] there, but how do you make that [[choice]]? I'm comfortable here, I'm comfortable with the people, I'm comfortable with you; but there's still...I mean I've got l8 years in that [[church]]. They're already asking me, it's already been hinted that they want me to become Relief Society President. That's a big [[responsibility]] in itself. If I could take it and run with this and (?) I'd be okay with it; but how do I lead the double life and still [[grow]] at the same time?

Q: I'll go first [[Welmek]]. Since I was going to ask you this in a [[private]] session, I might as well do it now. Maybe it'll help everybody. Peter and I were discussing, you know we're both [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism Mormons], and a week ago Sunday I went into Cheryl's [[problems]] at [[church]]. That caused real [[difficulties]] for me because we both [[feel]] like we're leading double lives. We come here because we get [[spiritual]] [[growth]] and spiritual [[food]], but yet there's this hanging on to the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism Mormon Church] because of all the [[time]], [[energy]] and [[effort]] and the years that I've put into it. And so I kind of [[feel]] this double image. I know from what was said in Salt Lake when we were out there, or Orem rather, that if the [[church]] ever finds that I'm coming here, they have already [[banned]] the [[Urantia Book]]; and if they find that I'm [[talking]] with you, they will [[literally]] [[excommunicate]] both of us, just because I [[believe]] in something they don't. I don't know how to get over that one, around it, under it, over it. I know there's a [[choice]] there, but how do you make that [[choice]]? I'm comfortable here, I'm comfortable with the people, I'm comfortable with you; but there's still...I mean I've got l8 years in that [[church]]. They're already asking me, it's already been hinted that they want me to become Relief Society President. That's a big [[responsibility]] in itself. If I could take it and run with this and (?) I'd be okay with it; but how do I lead the double life and still [[grow]] at the same time?

A: What is the [[church]] to you?

A: What is the [[church]] to you?

A: I would be with you, in a sense. Therefore, I would not miss you. I have told several of you that I will [[work]] with you on [[future]] assignments on other worlds; and I know in my [[heart]] as well as my [[mind]] that we will always be [[brothers and sisters]]. That really is not a fair question to ask because I have a much broader [[perspective]] than you do. Therefore, it is easier for me not to miss you the way you might miss me.

A: I would be with you, in a sense. Therefore, I would not miss you. I have told several of you that I will [[work]] with you on [[future]] assignments on other worlds; and I know in my [[heart]] as well as my [[mind]] that we will always be [[brothers and sisters]]. That really is not a fair question to ask because I have a much broader [[perspective]] than you do. Therefore, it is easier for me not to miss you the way you might miss me.

Q: But then you [[understand]] what I'm saying is that if you left, I would miss you and that I would still cling to the [[memories]]. And so I have a lot of [[friends]] all over, from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Lake_City,_UT Salt Lake] to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia Virginia], that are in the [[church]]. And if I leave the church, I'm [[afraid]] a couple of them are going to [[literally]] fall away. There are too many people hanging on to me.

Q: But then you [[understand]] what I'm saying is that if you left, I would miss you and that I would still cling to the [[memories]]. And so I have a lot of [[friends]] all over, from [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Lake_City,_UT Salt Lake] to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia Virginia], that are in the [[church]]. And if I leave the church, I'm [[afraid]] a couple of them are going to [[literally]] fall away. There are too many people hanging on to me.

A: Can you [[control]] this?

A: Can you [[control]] this?

Q: [[Effective]] [[prayer]] is the only thing I can [[think]] of.

Q: [[Effective]] [[prayer]] is the only thing I can [[think]] of.

A: And there is your answer. Always be open. Live your life by [[example]]. Try to do the best that you can. It is not your fault, it is not your inadequacy if they do not [[understand]] you. Do your best to try and [[maintain]] [[communication]] and so that through you they may [[understand]] [[the Father]] more [[clearly]]. But if they cannot, then do not [[worry]] about this. They have the [[spirit fragment]] also. They will in [[time]] either on this [[planet]] or on the [[mansion worlds]], come to the [[understanding]] that you do now. You see it is, that is the [[universe]], is filled with [[love]]. It is [[dominated]] by [[fairness]], by [[understanding]], by[[ truth, beauty and goodness]]. [[All things]] will work toward [[good]]. You may not see it in your lifetime completely, but these things will happen. As you grown in your [[understanding]] of [[the Father]]'s [[love]], you'll begin to see there is no need to [[worry]]. There is no need to feel the loss. You have lost nothing. It is all a part of each other.

A: And there is your answer. Always be open. Live your life by [[example]]. Try to do the best that you can. It is not your fault, it is not your inadequacy if they do not [[understand]] you. Do your best to try and [[maintain]] [[communication]] and so that through you they may [[understand]] [[the Father]] more [[clearly]]. But if they cannot, then do not [[worry]] about this. They have the [[spirit fragment]] also. They will in [[time]] either on this [[planet]] or on the [[mansion worlds]], come to the [[understanding]] that you do now. You see it is, that is the [[universe]], is filled with [[love]]. It is [[dominated]] by [[fairness]], by [[understanding]], by[[ truth, beauty, and goodness]]. [[All things]] will work toward [[good]]. You may not see it in your lifetime completely, but these things will happen. As you grown in your [[understanding]] of [[the Father]]'s [[love]], you'll begin to see there is no need to [[worry]]. There is no need to feel the loss. You have lost nothing. It is all a part of each other.

Q: That makes it a lot easier.

Q: That makes it a lot easier.

===='''''[[Home]]''''', '''''[[Control]]'''''====

===='''''[[Home]]''''', '''''[[Control]]'''''====

Q: Welmek, is there some [[guidance]] you can give us in obtaining the [[cooperation]] of [[family]] members around the house to help with some of the [[necessary]] tasks to maintain the household? ([[laughter]])

Q: Welmek, is there some [[guidance]] you can give us in obtaining the [[cooperation]] of [[family]] members around the house to help with some of the [[necessary]] tasks to maintain the household? ([[laughter]])

Set the example by the life that you [[lead]]. If they do not [[understand]] it, you must ask yourself "How much [[control]] do I have?" If it is a very young child, you have more [[control]]. The older the [[individual]] becomes, on your [[planet]], the less control you seem to have.

Set the example by the life that you [[lead]]. If they do not [[understand]] it, you must ask yourself "How much [[control]] do I have?" If it is a very young child, you have more [[control]]. The older the [[individual]] becomes, on your [[planet]], the less control you seem to have.

===='''''[[Habit]]''''', '''''[[Parenting]]'''''====

===='''''[[Habit]]''''', '''''[[Parenting]]'''''====

Q: Welmek, along those lines, where [[children]] are concerned, that's where I'm having a [[problem]] with my two boys. It's a matter of [[control]]; but I [[think]] really it's also with me, a matter of [[knowing]] how much, actually [[understanding]] how much control I have, especially with my older child. He's 15 and he's immature for his age. He doesn't like to make [[decisions]]. Without going into a big long [[story]], it's hard for me not to rant and rave. I'm a ranter and a raver. It's funny that you said that because even this evening, I noticed that I rant and rave the most when I'm concerned about him and when I'm [[frustrated]] also, naturally. But even when I say to myself "I am not going to go off", I still find myself, I don't scream or anything, but I get upset and I fuss, like (barking [[sound]]) I'm [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bark_(utterance) barking] at him, [[practically]]. I know I am because my [[husband]] tells me I'm barking at him. The thing is, that I don't want to do these things; and it's hard for me to break that [[habit]].

Q: Welmek, along those lines, where [[children]] are concerned, that's where I'm having a [[problem]] with my two boys. It's a matter of [[control]]; but I [[think]] really it's also with me, a matter of [[knowing]] how much, actually [[understanding]] how much control I have, especially with my older child. He's 15 and he's immature for his age. He doesn't like to make [[decisions]]. Without going into a big long [[story]], it's hard for me not to rant and rave. I'm a ranter and a raver. It's funny that you said that because even this evening, I noticed that I rant and rave the most when I'm concerned about him and when I'm [[frustrated]] also, naturally. But even when I say to myself "I am not going to go off", I still find myself, I don't scream or anything, but I get upset and I fuss, like (barking [[sound]]) I'm [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bark_(utterance) barking] at him, [[practically]]. I know I am because my [[husband]] tells me I'm barking at him. The thing is, that I don't want to do these things; and it's hard for me to break that [[habit]].

A: There is no [[question]] about this, the [[difficulty]] of breaking [[habits]]. These ways of [[behavior]] have been with you for many years. You have been here just a short time. You make [[sincere]] attempts to make [[changes]]; yet when you find yourself not doing what you really want, that [[frustrates]] you and makes the situation even more [[confusing]], more compounded and more frustrating. Is that not true?

A: There is no [[question]] about this, the [[difficulty]] of breaking [[habits]]. These ways of [[behavior]] have been with you for many years. You have been here just a short time. You make [[sincere]] attempts to make [[changes]]; yet when you find yourself not doing what you really want, that [[frustrates]] you and makes the situation even more [[confusing]], more compounded and more frustrating. Is that not true?

Each time he brings his studies [[home]], he [[achieves]] a certain [[recognition]]. Each time he leaves his studies behind, he goes backwards. You can even take this to the [[point]] of allowing him so much time for his [[games]]. Each time he brings his materials home, he earns, for example, one-half hour of [[play]] time.

Each time he brings his studies [[home]], he [[achieves]] a certain [[recognition]]. Each time he leaves his studies behind, he goes backwards. You can even take this to the [[point]] of allowing him so much time for his [[games]]. Each time he brings his materials home, he earns, for example, one-half hour of [[play]] time.

Sometimes it is, with [[children]], [[necessary]] to take those things away that they [[desire]] the most in order to make your point. But it is crucial, in my [[opinion]], that you do it in a way that they can, maybe not now, but in time, [[understand]] your [[reason]] and [[motivation]]. Rather than [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bark_(utterance) barking] at him, as you say, make him [[understand]] through [[feeling]] as well as [[thought]], what it is you want to help him accomplish. [[Practice]] these things, think about what I have said; and as you [[formulate]] more specific questions, we will address them later. But this is not an insurmountable [[problem]]. Most important is your [[composure]].

Sometimes it is, with [[children]], [[necessary]] to take those things away that they [[desire]] the most in order to make your point. But it is crucial, in my [[opinion]], that you do it in a way that they can, maybe not now, but in time, [[understand]] your [[reason]] and [[motivation]]. Rather than [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bark_(utterance) barking] at him, as you say, make him [[understand]] through [[feeling]] as well as [[thought]], what it is you want to help him accomplish. [[Practice]] these things, think about what I have said; and as you [[formulate]] more specific questions, we will address them later. But this is not an insurmountable [[problem]]. Most important is your [[composure]].

Q: What about it? ([[laughter]])

Q: What about it? ([[laughter]])

Q: I'll talk to you later. Thank you.

Q: I'll talk to you later. Thank you.

===='''''[[Change]]''''', '''''[[Free will]]====

===='''''[[Change]]''''', '''''[[Free will]]====

Q: I'd like to comment on something that is common here which is co- worker situations. First of all, I would say that if I worked with a [[group]] of people like this, it would be easy to [[maintain]] [[God- consciousness]] throughout the day. However, we are all not so fortunate; and as we come to [[realize]] that [[anger]], [[frustration]], resentment, these [[things]] [[affect]] our [[spiritual]] [[growth]], it becomes a [[challenge]] each day to deal with these people and manage our [[emotions]] to prevent those [[negative]] [[emotions]] from affecting us this way. First of all, I think through your teachings I have learned not to be as much like them as I [[realize]] I used to be. If someone was [[angry]] or verbally [[abusive]] towards me, I would gladly return the [[feelings]]. Now I try to keep from that and know that in my [[heart]] know that I'm supposed to [[love]] them and realize their immaturities. But many of you, maybe as well as me, meet up with people on a daily basis who lack any [[love]], [[understanding]] or [[compassion]] and seem to thrive on [[anger]] and verbal [[abuse]] of others. So, as I [[wake]] each [[morning]] and [[promise]] myself I'm going to try, again, which is an everyday thing to improve myself in dealing with these things, it never fails that one of them will push me too far. I'm always, in my evening [[prayers]], asking for [[forgiveness]] for similar situations. I don't know if this is a common thing with co- workers, but with me it is. I find much [[comfort]] in the fact that at least I [[realize]] these things now and never even [[thought]] about them before. So I think I am benefitting and I am [[progressing]] in dealing with them; but [[frustrations]] that we all speak of are very [[apparent]] and are very [[difficult]] to eliminate.

Q: I'd like to comment on something that is common here which is co- worker situations. First of all, I would say that if I worked with a [[group]] of people like this, it would be easy to [[maintain]] [[God-consciousness]] throughout the day. However, we are all not so fortunate; and as we come to [[realize]] that [[anger]], [[frustration]], resentment, these [[things]] [[affect]] our [[spiritual]] [[growth]], it becomes a [[challenge]] each day to deal with these people and manage our [[emotions]] to prevent those [[negative]] [[emotions]] from affecting us this way. First of all, I think through your teachings I have learned not to be as much like them as I [[realize]] I used to be. If someone was [[angry]] or verbally [[abusive]] towards me, I would gladly return the [[feelings]]. Now I try to keep from that and know that in my [[heart]] know that I'm supposed to [[love]] them and realize their immaturities. But many of you, maybe as well as me, meet up with people on a daily basis who lack any [[love]], [[understanding]] or [[compassion]] and seem to thrive on [[anger]] and verbal [[abuse]] of others. So, as I [[wake]] each [[morning]] and [[promise]] myself I'm going to try, again, which is an everyday thing to improve myself in dealing with these things, it never fails that one of them will push me too far. I'm always, in my evening [[prayers]], asking for [[forgiveness]] for similar situations. I don't know if this is a common thing with co- workers, but with me it is. I find much [[comfort]] in the fact that at least I [[realize]] these things now and never even [[thought]] about them before. So I think I am benefitting and I am [[progressing]] in dealing with them; but [[frustrations]] that we all speak of are very [[apparent]] and are very [[difficult]] to eliminate.

A: Do you feel that you will ever be able to [[change]] them, your co- workers?

A: Do you feel that you will ever be able to [[change]] them, your co- workers?

Q: There is also something to be said for finding that outlet for [[frustration]]. For instance, your suggestion to me was to [[write]] in a [[journal]] whenever I became frustrated; and that really helps me because I don't [[think]] that we can prevent frustrating situations in this life. We're always going to have frustrating situations. But the [[point]] is, is to get those [[feelings]] out as quickly as possible so that you don't stifle that spiritual [[growth]].

Q: There is also something to be said for finding that outlet for [[frustration]]. For instance, your suggestion to me was to [[write]] in a [[journal]] whenever I became frustrated; and that really helps me because I don't [[think]] that we can prevent frustrating situations in this life. We're always going to have frustrating situations. But the [[point]] is, is to get those [[feelings]] out as quickly as possible so that you don't stifle that spiritual [[growth]].

===='''''[[Simplicity]]''''', '''''[[Priorities]]'''''====

===='''''[[Simplicity]]''''', '''''[[Priorities]]'''''====

A: But I [[understand]] Mark's situation to seem to be more [[intense]], that each day he begins anew, rededicating his will to [[the Father]], and by the time he retires with his [[prayers]], he constantly asks for [[forgiveness]] for the [[difficulties]], that which he may have said or done, that took him away from doing the will of [[the Father]]. You must [[decide]] for yourself what it is you [[wish]] to do to [[maintain]] your [[existence]] that will [[hopefully]] lend a hand, or at least not add to, the [[difficulties]] that you encounter in trying to find and live the will of [[the Father]] each day. I have said before and will say again: you make your lives too [[difficult]] for yourselves. Learn to live more [[simply]]. That does not give you much [[satisfaction]], does it? ([[laughter]])

A: But I [[understand]] Mark's situation to seem to be more [[intense]], that each day he begins anew, rededicating his will to [[the Father]], and by the time he retires with his [[prayers]], he constantly asks for [[forgiveness]] for the [[difficulties]], that which he may have said or done, that took him away from doing the will of [[the Father]]. You must [[decide]] for yourself what it is you [[wish]] to do to [[maintain]] your [[existence]] that will [[hopefully]] lend a hand, or at least not add to, the [[difficulties]] that you encounter in trying to find and live the will of [[the Father]] each day. I have said before and will say again: you make your lives too [[difficult]] for yourselves. Learn to live more [[simply]]. That does not give you much [[satisfaction]], does it? ([[laughter]])

A: There are some things, once you [[recognize]] you cannot [[change]], you [[simply]] [[accept]]. But by accepting this does not mean that you give in to the ways of [[thinking]] of your [[associates]]. You must always achieve to [[maintain]] this level of [[awareness]] and even beyond. Therefore, in your [[interaction]] with these people, do not be dragged down to their [[energy]]. Allow yourself to [[maintain]] your own, and hopefully, by example, they may be drawn to you and actually, in [[time]], ask you questions. This may or may not happen. You will have to wait and see. But each time you allow yourself to get [[frustrated]], to get down-hearted, you know what it does to you and you know what it takes in order to overcome it and to just get back to where you were before.

A: There are some things, once you [[recognize]] you cannot [[change]], you [[simply]] [[accept]]. But by accepting this does not mean that you give in to the ways of [[thinking]] of your [[associates]]. You must always achieve to [[maintain]] this level of [[awareness]] and even beyond. Therefore, in your [[interaction]] with these people, do not be dragged down to their [[energy]]. Allow yourself to [[maintain]] your own, and hopefully, by example, they may be drawn to you and actually, in [[time]], ask you questions. This may or may not happen. You will have to wait and see. But each time you allow yourself to get [[frustrated]], to get down-hearted, you know what it does to you and you know what it takes in order to overcome it and to just get back to where you were before.

Q: One of the things that I did for myself as I am [[reading]] the [[Jesus papers]] now, I have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_care child care] in my [[home]] and I know that I don't have to do that for the rest of my life. But I found myself, especially when [[Teaching Mission|this mission]] first began, really having a [[difficult]] time because I felt like everyone else was doing something that was much more important than what I was doing and I felt stuck. I was [[complaining]] and I was [[frustrated]] and all of these things. But then [[reading]] [[the Jesus papers]], everything that he did, he never [[complained]]. He did the task at hand and then moved on to the next. And the thing that I have [[realized]] is that my task at hand may last for two years, but two years out of my entire life is a minute. And so it made it easier, not that I don't have those days of [[frustration]] and complaining, but when I saw what [[Jesus]] did and how as a [[young man]] had to [[126:2 The Death of Joseph|take over the father position]] in his [[family]] and did it all without complaint, took [[responsibility]], it gave me more [[courage]] to face my life in the same way and try to find the [[good]] in every single day. I pray every [[morning]] that I will find the [[good]] in every single day. It does help, when you try to look at it from his [[perspective]].

Q: One of the things that I did for myself as I am [[reading]] the [[Jesus papers]] now, I have [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_care child care] in my [[home]] and I know that I don't have to do that for the rest of my life. But I found myself, especially when [[Teaching Mission|this mission]] first began, really having a [[difficult]] time because I felt like everyone else was doing something that was much more important than what I was doing and I felt stuck. I was [[complaining]] and I was [[frustrated]] and all of these things. But then [[reading]] [[the Jesus papers]], everything that he did, he never [[complained]]. He did the task at hand and then moved on to the next. And the thing that I have [[realized]] is that my task at hand may last for two years, but two years out of my entire life is a minute. And so it made it easier, not that I don't have those days of [[frustration]] and complaining, but when I saw what [[Jesus]] did and how as a [[young man]] had to [[126:2 The Death of Joseph|take over the father position]] in his [[family]] and did it all without complaint, took [[responsibility]], it gave me more [[courage]] to face my life in the same way and try to find the [[good]] in every single day. I pray every [[morning]] that I will find the [[good]] in every single day. It does help, when you try to look at it from his [[perspective]].

A: And indeed, it is just that. It is a matter of [[perspective]]. The narrower your perspective, the more [[frustrated]] and [[anxious]] you become. The broader your perspective, the more [[love]]-filled you become. It's a matter of your [[desire]], your [[activity]], as to which [[perspective]] you [[wish]] to take on for yourself. It will not happen overnight. You must [[understand]] these things. You and I have been [[associated]] now for just over 4 months. This is not much [[time]]. The [[habits]] that you have [[developed]] over the years will take time to overcome. I have asked you to do things which you have not really on a [[consistent]] basis done before. Therefore, do not burden yourself terribly with the [[fact]] that you have not [[achieved]] that which you seek to achieve. Give yourself a break, yet don't let up, either. Always, each day, [[worship]] and re-[[dedicate]] yourself and do the best that you can. As we have said, that is all that is being asked of you.

A: And indeed, it is just that. It is a matter of [[perspective]]. The narrower your perspective, the more [[frustrated]] and [[anxious]] you become. The broader your perspective, the more [[love]]-filled you become. It's a matter of your [[desire]], your [[activity]], as to which [[perspective]] you [[wish]] to take on for yourself. It will not happen overnight. You must [[understand]] these things. You and I have been [[associated]] now for just over 4 months. This is not much [[time]]. The [[habits]] that you have [[developed]] over the years will take time to overcome. I have asked you to do things which you have not really on a [[consistent]] basis done before. Therefore, do not burden yourself terribly with the [[fact]] that you have not [[achieved]] that which you seek to achieve. Give yourself a break, yet don't let up, either. Always, each day, [[worship]] and re-[[dedicate]] yourself and do the best that you can. As we have said, that is all that is being asked of you.

Q: They're putting salt in an open wound.

Q: They're putting salt in an open wound.

Q: Believe me, I have made great strides, I think, and of course, everyone has to deal with themselves, and like you say, maybe I'm getting to know myself better because of it, but I have made great strides in dealing with much of what is said and in [[fact]] finding and returning comments using [[humor]] because I seem to poke fun at a lot of [[things]] about life. Comments have been made that I should be a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comedian comedian], things like that, and I'm [[wondering]] if maybe that's part of the way I deal with people, situations, so that I don't resort to [[anger]] and those other things. But it [[amazes]] me how insensitive some people can be, even in jest.

Q: Believe me, I have made great strides, I think, and of course, everyone has to deal with themselves, and like you say, maybe I'm getting to know myself better because of it, but I have made great strides in dealing with much of what is said and in [[fact]] finding and returning comments using [[humor]] because I seem to poke fun at a lot of [[things]] about life. Comments have been made that I should be a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comedian comedian], things like that, and I'm [[wondering]] if maybe that's part of the way I deal with people, situations, so that I don't resort to [[anger]] and those other things. But it [[amazes]] me how insensitive some people can be, even in jest.

Q: Mark, why don't you say, "Why are you being so insensitive?" Put it back on their shoulders, to have to [[explain]] their [[actions]].

Q: Mark, why don't you say, "Why are you being so insensitive?" Put it back on their shoulders, to have to [[explain]] their [[actions]].

Q: You know, this [[group]], these teachings, when you [[surround]] yourself with people who [[love]] you [[sincerely]], who care, who have the same [[motivations]] and [[desires]] as you, it's [[medicine]] for the [[heart]]. There's no [[doubt]] that without this I don't know where I would be. I'm sure I would be self-destructive; but I'm so [[thankful]] and so [[blessed]], I can't talk about [[repetitive]] [[worship]].

Q: You know, this [[group]], these teachings, when you [[surround]] yourself with people who [[love]] you [[sincerely]], who care, who have the same [[motivations]] and [[desires]] as you, it's [[medicine]] for the [[heart]]. There's no [[doubt]] that without this I don't know where I would be. I'm sure I would be self-destructive; but I'm so [[thankful]] and so [[blessed]], I can't talk about [[repetitive]] [[worship]].

===='''''[[Self Realization]]'''''====

===='''''[[Self Realization]]'''''====

A: I [[wish]] to make two comments and then move on, if I may. First, once again, [[our Master]] will be your [[model]]. You said that you do not [[understand]] how these [[individuals]] toward you the way that they do, so insensitively, so ignorantly, if you will. Think of how the [[leaders]] [[acted]] toward [[the Master]] when they [[literally]] [[crucified]] him. He looked upon them as with all of the [[children]] of this [[planet]] and asked [[the Father]] to [[forgive]] them because they just did not know what they were doing. And I suggest it is with those you [[work]] with, for if they really did [[understand]] you, if they did have a better understanding of themselves, they would not do these things. Lastly, I can give the best [[advice]] to all of you in this way. Whenever you deal with another [[individual]] that causes [[confrontation]] to begin to swell within yourself, [[simply]] look at this [[individual]] as [[Jesus]]. Allow the [[love]] to begin to [[flow]] through you again; and although their [[behavior]] is less than yours, [[simply]] look at them as [[Jesus]] would: [[forgive]] them Father for they do not know what they are doing. For if they did, they would not treat you this way, as they are treating me. You too are a [[part]] of [[Jesus]], just as they; and you would never treat [[our Master]] this way. Would they, if they [[understood]] the [[meaning]] of what I say to you? If you begin to [[focus]] yourself in this way, and [[honestly]] attempt each time you find yourself in these situations to the best of your [[ability]] to [[perceive]] and [[understand]] and [[feel]] it, then in time you will master all of your situations. You will look at all of the [[difficulties]] that [[face]] you and [[realize]] they are nothing more than an [[opportunity]] to [[grow]] once again. You will [[actually]] give [[thanks]] for those [[obstacles]], those difficult situations that you face; for in the long run, as you look back upon your life, you will see that they were [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Step-stone_bridge stepping stones] to lead you closer to [[the Father]], that very thing which you have been [[praying]] for all along.  

A: I [[wish]] to make two comments and then move on, if I may. First, once again, [[our Master]] will be your [[model]]. You said that you do not [[understand]] how these [[individuals]] toward you the way that they do, so insensitively, so ignorantly, if you will. Think of how the [[leaders]] [[acted]] toward [[the Master]] when they [[literally]] [[crucified]] him. He looked upon them as with all of the [[children]] of this [[planet]] and asked [[the Father]] to [[forgive]] them because they just did not know what they were doing. And I suggest it is with those you [[work]] with, for if they really did [[understand]] you, if they did have a better understanding of themselves, they would not do these things. Lastly, I can give the best [[advice]] to all of you in this way. Whenever you deal with another [[individual]] that causes [[confrontation]] to begin to swell within yourself, [[simply]] look at this [[individual]] as [[Jesus]]. Allow the [[love]] to begin to [[flow]] through you again; and although their [[behavior]] is less than yours, [[simply]] look at them as [[Jesus]] would: [[forgive]] them Father for they do not know what they are doing. For if they did, they would not treat you this way, as they are treating me. You too are a [[part]] of [[Jesus]], just as they; and you would never treat [[our Master]] this way. Would they, if they [[understood]] the [[meaning]] of what I say to you? If you begin to [[focus]] yourself in this way, and [[honestly]] attempt each time you find yourself in these situations to the best of your [[ability]] to [[perceive]] and [[understand]] and [[feel]] it, then in time you will master all of your situations. You will look at all of the [[difficulties]] that [[face]] you and [[realize]] they are nothing more than an [[opportunity]] to [[grow]] once again. You will [[actually]] give [[thanks]] for those [[obstacles]], those difficult situations that you face; for in the long run, as you look back upon your life, you will see that they were [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Step-stone_bridge stepping stones] to lead you closer to [[the Father]], that very thing which you have been [[praying]] for all along.  

With that being said, I wish to make an [[announcement]]. There is another, actually there are several who have been receiving [[communication]] for the past few weeks and some the past few days. This pleases me deeply. Linda Buselli has been [[receiving]] [[communication]] for some time. We will now ask her to join Michael and David in [[speaking]] out loud. What I [[wish]] to do when I turn this [[meeting]] over to her as my [[voice]] [[mechanism]] is to open up this session for general questions and answers. I [[realize]] that I have not addressed that which I told you I would as far as [[parental]] and [[brotherly]] [[love]]; and if you wish to address [[questions]] in this way, we will. This will be a [[practice]] session for her. I [[understand]] that you all [[love]] her and that you must [[realize]] the somewhat nervous situation that this will create within her. For any of you that [[receive]] [[communication]], your [[supreme]] [[desire]] is to never mislead, never misguide and always [[hope]] that what you receive is actually that of either another being or of your [[higher self]]. As I have told you before, it matters not the [[source]] as much as the [[content]]. Ask your [[questions]] freely to me, and I will [[respond]] through her. I will ask that those who feel comfortable to [[engage]] her in your [[private]] sessions, for as you know we are losing David temporarily for most of the private sessions he has volunteered to do. I do not [[wish]] to lose the [[opportunity]] to speak to you. Therefore, it is time for Linda to become a part of the [[speaking]] group. One moment please.

With that being said, I wish to make an [[announcement]]. There is another, actually there are several who have been receiving [[communication]] for the past few weeks and some the past few days. This pleases me deeply. Linda Buselli has been [[receiving]] [[communication]] for some time. We will now ask her to join Michael and David in [[speaking]] out loud. What I [[wish]] to do when I turn this [[meeting]] over to her as my [[voice]] [[mechanism]] is to open up this session for general questions and answers. I [[realize]] that I have not addressed that which I told you I would as far as [[parental]] and [[brotherly]] [[love]]; and if you wish to address [[questions]] in this way, we will. This will be a [[practice]] session for her. I [[understand]] that you all [[love]] her and that you must [[realize]] the somewhat nervous situation that this will create within her. For any of you that [[receive]] [[communication]], your [[supreme]] [[desire]] is to never mislead, never misguide and always [[hope]] that what you receive is actually that of either another being or of your [[higher self]]. As I have told you before, it matters not the [[source]] as much as the [[content]]. Ask your [[questions]] freely to me, and I will [[respond]] through her. I will ask that those who feel comfortable to [[engage]] her in your [[private]] sessions, for as you know we are losing David temporarily for most of the private sessions he has volunteered to do. I do not [[wish]] to lose the [[opportunity]] to speak to you. Therefore, it is time for Linda to become a part of the [[speaking]] group. One moment please.

Q: Welmek, I have a [[question]] on a [[different]] subject. The speaker that spoke to us during our opening said that we had done things as a [[group]] that had been helpful. Can you [[explain]] what those things are? And I [[assume]] that that was helpful to [[Teaching Mission|the mission]].

Q: Welmek, I have a [[question]] on a [[different]] subject. The speaker that spoke to us during our opening said that we had done things as a [[group]] that had been helpful. Can you [[explain]] what those things are? And I [[assume]] that that was helpful to [[Teaching Mission|the mission]].

A: Every [[group]] has a part in the [[mission]] as a [[whole]]. Your group has been, partly because of its [[numbers]], particularly active in certain areas. As I have spoken of before, your [[support]] of other [[groups]] is more important than you [[realize]]. There is [[energy]] generated in a group of this size that is useful and can be helpful to other groups in a [[support]] [[frame of reference]]. Many of you are in [[contact]] [[personally]] with those in other groups. You have [[stimulated]] an interest in groups that might not yet have formed without this additional help. All of these things help the [[mission]] more than you [[realize]]. There is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripple_effect ripple effect], as you would call it. For all that you do, as [[individuals]] and as [[support]] as a [[group]], more happens than you will ever really [[understand]]. This group also, because of its size, has been useful in several [[experiments]]. This has helped us to [[understand]] [[humans]] in certain ways and to try new [[techniques]] of reaching you, [[mindally]], and with helping you [[spiritually]]. All of these things have been helpful to us, and we are very [[appreciative]] of the [[dedication]] of all of you. You have helped more than you know.

A: Every [[group]] has a part in the [[mission]] as a [[whole]]. Your group has been, partly because of its [[numbers]], particularly active in certain areas. As I have spoken of before, your [[support]] of other [[groups]] is more important than you [[realize]]. There is [[energy]] generated in a group of this size that is useful and can be helpful to other groups in a [[support]] [[frame of reference]]. Many of you are in [[contact]] [[personally]] with those in other groups. You have [[stimulated]] an interest in groups that might not yet have formed without this additional help. All of these things help the [[mission]] more than you [[realize]]. There is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripple_effect ripple effect], as you would call it. For all that you do, as [[individuals]] and as [[support]] as a [[group]], more happens than you will ever really [[understand]]. This group also, because of its size, has been useful in several [[experiments]]. This has helped us to [[understand]] [[humans]] in certain ways and to try new [[techniques]] of reaching you, [[mindally]], and with helping you [[spiritually]]. All of these things have been helpful to us, and we are very [[appreciative]] of the [[dedication]] of all of you. You have helped more than you know.

Q: I had one question, and this is just a [[clarification]]. When we talk about [[Teaching Mission|the mission]], my [[understanding]] is that basically, the overall [[mission]] is just to do whatever we can as [[individuals]] to help bring the world into [[Light and Life]]; and while this is a very kind of [[simplistic]] overview, that's my [[understanding]]. That is correct?

Q: I had one question, and this is just a [[clarification]]. When we talk about [[Teaching Mission|the mission]], my [[understanding]] is that basically, the overall [[mission]] is just to do whatever we can as [[individuals]] to help bring the world into [[Light and Life]]; and while this is a very kind of [[simplistic]] overview, that's my [[understanding]]. That is correct?

Q: Welmek, I'm [[curious]]. Since you've had an [[opportunity]] to view us [[humans]], what are your [[opinions]], be they [[positive]] or [[negative]] about [[humor]] and how we use it or apply it in our lives?

Q: Welmek, I'm [[curious]]. Since you've had an [[opportunity]] to view us [[humans]], what are your [[opinions]], be they [[positive]] or [[negative]] about [[humor]] and how we use it or apply it in our lives?

A: I have attempted to [[learn]] more about this since I have been here. I [[hope]] I have improved. ([[laughter]]) Thank you. [[Humor]] is important on this [[planet]]. I did not fully [[understand]] this at first. There is, as I have said before, on a [[planet]] such as mine, there is less [[contrast]], and therefore, [[humor]] is not acquired to any great [[degree]] by persons on my planet or persons on planets in [[Light and Life]]. I had to acquire a sense of [[humor]] or an understanding of it on the [[morontia worlds]]. But I can [[assure]] you, I was not [[prepared]] for the [[degree]] of [[humor]] I have found here. Humor on [[morontia]]l levels is somewhat [[different]]. Your humor is, at times, not as [[sophisticated]] as it might be ([[laughter]]), but I have found that I enjoy it a great deal, and I am still working on my sense of [[humor]].

A: I have attempted to [[learn]] more about this since I have been here. I [[hope]] I have improved. ([[laughter]]) Thank you. [[Humor]] is important on this [[planet]]. I did not fully [[understand]] this at first. There is, as I have said before, on a [[planet]] such as mine, there is less [[contrast]], and therefore, [[humor]] is not acquired to any great [[degree]] by persons on my planet or persons on planets in [[Light and Life]]. I had to acquire a sense of [[humor]] or an understanding of it on the [[morontia worlds]]. But I can [[assure]] you, I was not [[prepared]] for the [[degree]] of [[humor]] I have found here. Humor on [[morontia]]l levels is somewhat [[different]]. Your humor is, at times, not as [[Sophism|sophisticated]] as it might be ([[laughter]]), but I have found that I enjoy it a great deal, and I am still working on my sense of [[humor]].

Q: I have a follow-up to that. It has been said that laughter has [[healing]] [[powers]]. Is that correct?

Q: I have a follow-up to that. It has been said that laughter has [[healing]] [[powers]]. Is that correct?

A: I have come to [[understand]] that better since I have been here.

A: I have come to [[understand]] that better since I have been here.

===='''''[[Christmas]]'''''====

===='''''[[Christmas]]'''''====

Q: Welmek, with the [[Christmas]] [[season]] coming on, how does the rest of the world [[perceive]] our Christmas holiday spirit?

Q: Welmek, with the [[Christmas]] [[season]] coming on, how does the rest of the world [[perceive]] our Christmas holiday spirit?

A: The general consensus is that it is unfortunate that the [[birth]] of [[the Master]] seems to be so overshadowed by commercial [[greed]], by non- [[religious]] activities. It is truly unfortunate that so many of the people on this [[planet]] do not [[understand]] the importance of what occurred here when [[Jesus]] was born. If the [[mortals]] of this planet really understood the [[meaning]] of a [[Creator Son]], a being so mighty, taking the form of a [[human]] [[baby]], a helpless [[human being]], and all of the [[universe]] implications involved, I can [[assure]] you there would be a good deal less of the commercial [[point of view]].

A: The general consensus is that it is unfortunate that the [[birth]] of [[the Master]] seems to be so overshadowed by commercial [[greed]], by non- [[religious]] activities. It is truly unfortunate that so many of the people on this [[planet]] do not [[understand]] the importance of what occurred here when [[Jesus]] was born. If the [[mortals]] of this planet really understood the [[meaning]] of a [[Creator Son]], a being so mighty, taking the form of a [[human]] [[baby]], a helpless [[human being]], and all of the [[universe]] implications involved, I can [[assure]] you there would be a good deal less of the commercial [[point of view]].

Q: Do you find that throughout the world or throughout the [[earth]] itself that people tend towards [[Christmast]]ime to [[think]] more of one another and there's more concern about one another?

Q: Do you find that throughout the world or throughout the [[earth]] itself that people tend towards [[Christmas]]time to [[think]] more of one another and there's more concern about one another?

A: This is talked about a great deal in [[Christian]] countries. There is an [[effort]] made, and there are [[individuals]] who really do apply a religious, a [[spiritual]] meaning to the day. However, on the whole, there is much that could be done and will be done in [[future]] in [[appreciating]] exactly what the [[birth]] of [[the Master]] meant.

A: This is talked about a great deal in [[Christian]] countries. There is an [[effort]] made, and there are [[individuals]] who really do apply a religious, a [[spiritual]] meaning to the day. However, on the whole, there is much that could be done and will be done in [[future]] in [[appreciating]] exactly what the [[birth]] of [[the Master]] meant.

Q: As we get closer to [[Light and Life]], will the actual date of [[Jesus]]' [[birthday]] change? Since we know he was born on the [[122:8|21st of August]], will [[Christmas]] stop and more of a birthday [[celebration]] for [[Jesus]] in August happen?

Q: As we get closer to [[Light and Life]], will the actual date of [[Jesus]]' birthday change? Since we know he was born on the [[122:8|21st of August]], will [[Christmas]] stop and more of a birthday [[celebration]] for [[Jesus]] in August happen?

A: This is [[difficult]] to say. [[Eventually]], as more people [[understand]] this may occur among groups. This is strictly a [[human]] [[decision]]; and some may for sentimental reasons even, choose to keep [[Christmas]] for some [[generations]] to come.

A: This is [[difficult]] to say. [[Eventually]], as more people [[understand]] this may occur among groups. This is strictly a [[human]] [[decision]]; and some may for sentimental reasons even, choose to keep [[Christmas]] for some [[generations]] to come.

===='''''[[Presence]]'''''====

===='''''[[Presence]]'''''====

Q: Welmek, when you talk about seeing [[Christ]] in someone else, you [[reference]] this in a [[literal]] sense, correct?

Q: Welmek, when you talk about seeing [[Christ]] in someone else, you [[reference]] this in a [[literal]] sense, correct?

Q: Is there a correlation, then, between this and why [[Jesus]] was never

Q: Is there a correlation, then, between this and why [[Jesus]] was never

[[Disease|ill in his adult life and later teen life, because he looked at

[[Disease|ill]] in his adult life and later teen life, because he looked at

people in this way?

people in this way?

A: This was certainly part of his [[physical]] [[health]], yes. There were

A: This was certainly part of his [[physical]] [[health]], yes. There were

some other reasons which I will not go into at this time.

some other reasons which I will not go into at this time.

===='''''[[Difference]]'''''====

 

===='''''[[Ascension Career]]'''''====

Q: Welmek, I have a question I would like to get answered tonight, but

Q: Welmek, I have a question I would like to get answered tonight, but

I feel a sense that I should defer to others who might be here for

I feel a sense that I should defer to others who might be here for

their [[family]]. This is the most immediate example of the [[difference]].

their [[family]]. This is the most immediate example of the [[difference]].

There is an important [[difference]], which is why in the [[ascension

There is an important [[difference]], which is why in the [[ascension career]] it is important that every [[individual]] undergo the [[parental]]

career]] it is important that every [[individual]] undergo the [[parental]]

[[experience]]. Because until you can [[understand]] this, it is [[difficult]]

[[experience]]. Because until you can [[understand]] this, it is [[difficult]]

to understand how [[the Father]] loves you. Does this help?

to understand how [[the Father]] loves you. Does this help?

[[individual]] that you feel could benefit from learning these [[truths]]

[[individual]] that you feel could benefit from learning these [[truths]]

that you have acquired?

that you have acquired?

===='''''[[Love]]'''''====

===='''''[[Love]]'''''====

Q: Yes, the [[conversations]] occurred after our session last Friday night

Q: Yes, the [[conversations]] occurred after our session last Friday night

[[stimulate]] any [[ideas]]?

[[stimulate]] any [[ideas]]?

Q: It's unconditional. It's [[love that]]'s given just because of (words

Q: It's unconditional. It's [[love]] that's given just because of (words

lost) because you have a particular characteristic. It's just the

lost) because you have a particular characteristic. It's just the

[[fact]] that you exist, you are a member of [[God]]'s [[family]] and you should

[[fact]] that you exist, you are a member of [[God]]'s [[family]] and you should

the same [[Local Universe|universe]].

the same [[Local Universe|universe]].

Q: You know, I made the same comment last week. Is it even possible to

Q: You know, I made the same comment last week. Is it even possible to

[[understand]] that [[parental]] side of love without experiencing the

[[understand]] that [[parental]] side of [[love]] without [[experiencing]] the

actual parental experience?

actual [[parental]] experience?

Q: Probably by seeing what the love of parents who have children. I

Q: Probably by seeing what the [[love]] of [[parents]] who have [[children]]. I

think the people around you would probably give you a feeling of

think the people around you would probably give you a [[feeling]] of

what it would be like.

what it would be like.

Q: I don't know, I wonder, because as I understand the text, we will

Q: I don't know, I [[wonder]], because as I [[understand]] the [[text]], we will

all raise children, either on this planet or the next; and I think

[[45:6 Adamic Training of Ascenders|all raise children, either on this planet or the next]]; and I think

it's because of that reason that we need to have that hands-on

it's because of that reason that we need to have that hands-on

personal experience of what it means to actually be a parent, to

[[personal]] [[experience]] of what it means to actually be a [[parent]], to

know that love.

know that [[love]].

Q: I think too, that having a step-child before I had a child of my

Q: I think too, that having a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepchildren step-child] before I had a child of my

own, that after I had the child of my own, my love increased for my

own, that after I had the child of my own, my [[love]] increased for my

step-child and my understanding of nurturing him was increased. So

step-child and my [[understanding]] of nurturing him was increased. So

it did help me.

it did help me.

Q: But that doesn't mean to imply that because you're not a parent on

Q: But that doesn't mean to imply that because you're not a parent on

this planet, that you are any less loving.

this [[planet]], that you are any less loving.

Q: To me, when my daughter was born, I had some life decisions to make

Q: To me, when my daughter was [[born]], I had some life [[decisions]] to make

about my career and stuff; but I remember looking at her, and it's

about my [[career]] and stuff; but I remember looking at her, and it's

kind of like a perspective of being (?) something much larger than

kind of like a [[perspective]] of [[being]] (?) something much larger than

this planet. Understanding our careers, I guess, is a whole

this [[planet]]. [[Understanding]] our careers, I guess, is a whole

different perspective looking at our day-to-day problems. I think

different [[perspective]] looking at our day-to-day [[problems]]. I think

it did that for me even without that kind of knowledge. It was like

it did that for me even without that kind of [[knowledge]]. It was like

you know, so many years in this life was not significant in relation

you know, so many years in this life was not significant in [[relation]]

to what you have and what the relationship is and the love you feel.

to what you have and what the relationship is and the [[love]] you [[feel]].

But I think you can still express that fatherly love on some levels

But I [[think]] you can still [[express]] that [[father]]ly love on some levels

without that experience.

without that [[experience]].

Q: I agree. Look how people who don't have children still give of

Q: I [[agree]]. Look how people who don't have [[children]] still give of

themselves. And it's the parental fashion, they give because they

themselves. And it's the parental fashion, they give because they

see that they have experiences that they can pass on, that they can

see that they have [[experiences]] that they can pass on, that they can

help someone with. It is in, from my understanding, the same

help someone with. It is in, from my [[understanding]], the same

attitude that Norsen was trying to explain. They're taking

[[attitude]] that Norsen was trying to [[explain]]. They're taking

responsibility actually for someone learning something from them,

[[responsibility]] actually for someone learning something from them,

and they're doing it with the intention of helping that person to

and they're doing it with the [[intention]] of helping that [[person]] to

grow to another plane. You know, teachers do that, whether they

grow to another [[plane]]. You know, [[teachers]] do that, whether they

have kids or not.

have kids or not.

Q: Or giving someone...or looking at someone and recognizing them as a

Q: Or giving someone...or looking at someone and [[recognizing]] them as a

part of God, as one of God's children when viewing Jesus when you

[[part]] of [[God]], as one of God's [[children]] when viewing [[Jesus]] when you

look at them. I think you're giving them a sense of acceptance and

look at them. I think you're giving them a sense of [[acceptance]] and

existence, allowing them to be who they are and creating an

[[existence]], allowing them to be who they are and creating an

environment in which they can grow to be what they can be. I think

[[environment]] in which they can grow to be what they can be. I think

when our judgments come in, or even when we choose not to see people

when our [[judgments]] come in, or even when we choose not to see people

that way, that's a judgment.

that way, that's a judgment.

Q: I think another thing we have to be very mindful of in reading

Q: I think another thing we have to be very mindful of in [[reading]]

anything from the text, especially in relation to the life and

anything from the [[text]], especially in [[relation]] to the life and

teachings, is that Jesus lived his life for all of his universe. So

teachings, is that [[Jesus]] lived his life for all of [[his universe]]. So

when he says things, he's talking to more than just the humans of

when he says things, he's talking to more than just the [[humans]] of

our planet. And my point is that he's also addressing the Welmeks

our [[planet]]. And my point is that he's also addressing the Welmeks

of the universe who are growing up on Light and Life worlds, they

of the [[universe]] who are growing up on [[Light and Life]] worlds, they

need insight also.

need [[insight]] also.

I'm not so sure that for us, in our meager existence on this

I'm not so sure that for us, in our meager [[existence]] on this

isolated sphere, it's important to truly be able to distinguish

[[isolated]] [[sphere]], it's important to truly be able to distinguish

between the Father's love and the love for a brother. I think

between [[the Father]]'s [[love]] and the love for a [[brother]]. I think

what's important for us is that we feel the love. I mean we are at

what's important for us is that we feel the love. I mean we are at

ground zero compared to a Welmek who has the insight that can

ground zero compared to a [[Welmek]] who has the [[insight]] that can

probably be able to get a much better grasp of a love for the Father

probably be able to get a much better grasp of a love for [[the Father]]

versus the love for his brothers and sisters and a much deeper

versus the love for his [[brothers and sisters]] and a much deeper

understanding of the true significance of what Jesus said.

[[understanding]] of the true significance of what [[Jesus]] said.

For us to struggle with the fact that I don't quite understand the

For us to [[struggle]] with the [[fact]] that I don't quite [[understand]] the

difference and it confuses me, I think we miss the point. I think

[[difference]] and it [[confuses]] me, I think we miss the [[point]]. I think

that the point, again, for us is the teachers have all been

that the point, again, for us is the [[teachers]] have all been

instructing us to do is to feel this love inside. Don't put the

instructing us to do is to [[feel]] this [[love]] inside. Don't put the

label of necessarily the Father or for the brother. Manifest the

label of necessarily [[the Father]] or for the [[brother]]. [[Manifest]] the

love toward another as though that person were Jesus.

love toward another as though that [[person]] were [[Jesus]].

I can say I have actively been trying to do that. It is really

I can say I have actively been trying to do that. It is really

difficult for me because each person I encounter I have to re-gear

[[difficult]] for me because each [[person]] I encounter I have to re-gear

and I'm constantly trying to re-think, "This is another Jesus" and I

and I'm constantly trying to re-think, "This is another [[Jesus]]" and I

want to start acting like it really was him; and I forget and get

want to start [[acting]] like it really was him; and I forget and get

wrapped up in routine, so on and so forth. But when I do it, there

wrapped up in [[routine]], so on and so forth. But when I do it, there

is a significant feeling within that is undeniable. And how the

is a significant [[feeling]] within that is undeniable. And how the

other person responds, I'm not really very concerned about because I

other [[person]] [[responds]], I'm not really very concerned about because I

know I can't control them anyway. I'm mostly concerned now about my

know I can't [[control]] them anyway. I'm mostly concerned now about my

love for them rather than their reaction to my love for them.

[[love]] for them rather than their [[reaction]] to my [[love]] for them.

I think, again, this is what both Jesus and the teachers are saying.

I think, again, this is what both [[Jesus]] and the [[teachers]] are saying.

If we could achieve that each time we encounter someone, where would

If we could [[achieve]] that each time we encounter someone, where would

we be in our spiritual growth? Will we have achieved that which we

we be in our [[spiritual]] [[growth]]? Will we have achieved that which we

set out for? The feelings that I had were, again, very calm peace

set out for? The [[feelings]] that I had were, again, very calm [[peace]]

of mind, and that's certainly some of my objectives to find in life.

of [[mind]], and that's certainly some of my objectives to find in life.

But it just doesn't happen. It takes effort. It takes hard work.

But it just doesn't happen. It takes [[effort]]. It takes hard [[work]].

There's no magic wand that says okay, now you're going to go treat

There's no [[magic]] [[wand]] that says okay, now you're going to go treat

everybody like it's Jesus. You really have to engage the person and

everybody like it's [[Jesus]]. You really have to [[engage]] the [[person]] and

think of them and feel for them in that way. It's had a significant

[[think]] of them and feel for them in that way. It's had a significant

impact on me, to the point that it encourages me to try it again and

[[impact]] on me, to the point that it [[encourages]] me to try it again and

to keep on trying it because I know what I felt. I know how it

to keep on trying it because I know what I felt. I know how it

changed my perspective.

changed my [[perspective]].

Q: At the same time, if you don't achieve that every time, you can't

Q: At the same time, if you don't [[achieve]] that every time, you can't

crucify yourself either. You have to just keep going on and that's

[[crucify]] yourself either. You have to just keep going on and that's

something I think many people have a tendency to do. You know you

something I [[think]] many people have a tendency to do. You know you

realize you're not perfect and you're so hard on yourself that you

realize you're not perfect and you're so hard on yourself that you

have to say, "Well I didn't do it this time, I'll just have to try

have to say, "Well I didn't do it this time, I'll just have to try

it next time."

it next time."

Q: And the challenge is in the case of what Mark said and we all have

Q: And the [[challenge]] is in the case of what Mark said and we all have

this in our jobs or in interpersonal relationships, there are these

this in our jobs or in interpersonal [[relationships]], there are these

people that make these off-the-wall comments that your initial

people that make these off-the-wall comments that your initial

response is you want to smack them beside the head because it's such

[[response]] is you want to smack them beside the head because it's such

a stupid thing for you say, for that person to be saying; but as

a stupid thing for you say, for that [[person]] to be saying; but as

Welmek said, you know, how did Jesus respond when he was being

[[Welmek]] said, you know, how did [[Jesus]] respond when he was being

nailed to the cross? Certainly a little more painful and more long-

[[Crucifixion|nailed to the cross]]? Certainly a little more [[painful]] and more long-

lasting than a snooty remark by somebody. His response was "Father

lasting than a snooty remark by somebody. His [[response]] was "[[187:2 The Crucifixion|Father

forgive them, they just don't know what they're doing." And if we

forgive them, they just don't know what they're doing]]." And if we

can really start to incorporate that, not that we're saying "Father,

can really start to incorporate that, not that we're saying "Father,

look how much better I am than that person is, but forgive them

look how much better I am than that [[person]] is, but [[forgive]] them

because they don't know they're really hurting me, or obviously they

because they don't know they're really hurting me, or obviously they

don't know you."

don't know you."

Q: Well, they're in trouble tomorrow, I can tell you. (laughter) I've

Q: Well, they're in trouble tomorrow, I can tell you. ([[laughter]]) I've

got more ammunition.

got more ammunition.

Q: Welmek, what would you say is the difference between fatherly and

Q: Welmek, what would you say is the [[difference]] between [[140:5 Fatherly and Brotherly Love|fatherly and

brotherly love?

brotherly love]]?

A: It is for me a matter of perspective. The perspective of a father's

A: It is for me a matter of [[perspective]]. The perspective of a [[father]]'s

love is so much more all-encompassing than the love a brother has

[[love]] is so much more all-[[encompassing]] than the love a [[brother]] has

for a brother or a sister. I would like you in the next week to

for a brother or a sister. I would like you in the next week to

consider this. Again, we will talk about this again in the future.

consider this. Again, we will talk about this again in the [[future]].

Think about what has been said. You have your transcripts from last

Think about what has been said. You have your [[transcripts]] from last

week with the comments made there. Continue to study your text for

week with the comments made there. Continue to [[study]] [[Urantia text|your text]] for

these references. There is a difference. It may not seem important

these [[references]]. There is a [[difference]]. It may not seem important

to you, to some of you, but it is important in your ability to view

to you, to some of you, but it is important in your [[ability]] to view

your fellow man and in your ability to develop the depth of

your fellow man and in your ability to develop the depth of

affection for him that the Master was asking for.

[[affection]] for him that [[the Master]] was asking for.

===Closing===

===Closing===

We'll conclude this session now. During this week, I am going to

We'll conclude this session now. During this week, I am going to

give you an assignment. I would like you to try what David has

give you an assignment. I would like you to try what David has

been trying. At least once every day, select an individual and

been trying. At least once every day, select an [[individual]] and

attempt to see the Master in that person. It will be interesting to

attempt to see [[the Master]] in that [[person]]. It will be interesting to

hear your comments on a future occasion.

hear your comments on a [[future]] occasion.

For now, my friends...(tape ended)-

For now, my [[friends]]...(tape ended)-

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