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===Opening===
 
===Opening===
 
===='''''[[Teacher Contact]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Teacher Contact]]'''''====
RAYSON: Good evening, children; this is [[Rayson]]. Your [[teacher]] will be here momentarily. He is on assignment in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentina Argentina]. There is much happening in [[preparation]] for the [[events]] that will be forthcoming in the next few months. I will let [[Welmek]] decide whether or not he will [[share]] with you some of what he has been up to. ([[laughter]]) I wish to make a comment to the [[group]] as to your [[understanding]] of [[contact]] with us. There has been much [[confusion]]. There has been many [[inquiries]] amongst yourselves as to what is [[real]], what is not and what is [[expected]], [[anticipated]].
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RAYSON: Good evening, children; this is [[Rayson]]. Your [[teacher]] will be here momentarily. He is on assignment in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentina Argentina]. There is much happening in [[preparation]] for the [[events]] that will be forthcoming in the next few months. I will let [[Welmek]] decide whether or not he will [[share]] with you some of what he has been up to. ([[laughter]]) I wish to make a comment to the [[group]] as to your [[understanding]] of [[contact]] with us. There has been much [[confusion]]. There has been many [[inquiries]] amongst yourselves as to what is [[real]], what is not and what is [[expected]], [[anticipated]].
 
===Lesson===
 
===Lesson===
 
First, it should be known that if you are willing, we [[desire]] to make [[contact]] at some point in time. It is not [[necessary]] that all of you do what David and Michael do. However, it is important that we are able to make this contact if possible. Some of you have asked the [[question]] "Why have I not [[received]] [[communication]] thus far?"
 
First, it should be known that if you are willing, we [[desire]] to make [[contact]] at some point in time. It is not [[necessary]] that all of you do what David and Michael do. However, it is important that we are able to make this contact if possible. Some of you have asked the [[question]] "Why have I not [[received]] [[communication]] thus far?"
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Q: Not necessarily, but succeeding is....the [[problem]]. W: So let's take a few examples and [[discuss]] them. Who [[wishes]] to begin?
 
Q: Not necessarily, but succeeding is....the [[problem]]. W: So let's take a few examples and [[discuss]] them. Who [[wishes]] to begin?
 
===='''''[[Tradition]]''''', '''''[[Growth]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Tradition]]''''', '''''[[Growth]]'''''====
Q: I'll go first [[Welmek]]. Since I was going to ask you this in a [[private]] session, I might as well do it now. Maybe it'll help everybody. Peter and I were discussing, you know we're both [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism Mormons], and a week ago Sunday I went into Cheryl's [[problems]] at [[church]]. That caused real [[difficulties]] for me because we both [[feel]] like we're leading double lives. We come here because we get [[spiritual]] [[growth]] and spiritual [[food]], but yet there's this hanging on to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism Mormon Church] because of all the [[time]], [[energy]] and [[effort]] and the years that I've put into it. And so I kind of [[feel]] this double image. I know from what was said in Salt Lake when we were out there, or Orem rather, that if the [[church]] ever finds that I'm coming here, they have already [[banned]] the [[Urantia Book]]; and if they find that I'm [[talking]] with you, they will [[literally]] [[excommunicate]] both of us, just because I [[believe]] in something they don't. I don't know how to get over that one, around it, under it, over it. I know there's a [[choice]] there, but how do you make that [[choice]]? I'm comfortable here, I'm comfortable with the people, I'm comfortable with you; but there's still...I mean I've got l8 years in that [[church]]. They're already asking me, it's already been hinted that they want me to become Relief Society President. That's a big [[responsibility]] in itself. If I could take it and run with this and (?) I'd be okay with it; but how do I lead the double life and still [[grow]] at the same time?
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Q: I'll go first [[Welmek]]. Since I was going to ask you this in a [[private]] session, I might as well do it now. Maybe it'll help everybody. Peter and I were discussing, you know we're both [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism Mormons], and a week ago Sunday I went into Cheryl's [[problems]] at [[church]]. That caused real [[difficulties]] for me because we both [[feel]] like we're leading double lives. We come here because we get [[spiritual]] [[growth]] and spiritual [[food]], but yet there's this hanging on to the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism Mormon Church] because of all the [[time]], [[energy]] and [[effort]] and the years that I've put into it. And so I kind of [[feel]] this double image. I know from what was said in Salt Lake when we were out there, or Orem rather, that if the [[church]] ever finds that I'm coming here, they have already [[banned]] the [[Urantia Book]]; and if they find that I'm [[talking]] with you, they will [[literally]] [[excommunicate]] both of us, just because I [[believe]] in something they don't. I don't know how to get over that one, around it, under it, over it. I know there's a [[choice]] there, but how do you make that [[choice]]? I'm comfortable here, I'm comfortable with the people, I'm comfortable with you; but there's still...I mean I've got l8 years in that [[church]]. They're already asking me, it's already been hinted that they want me to become Relief Society President. That's a big [[responsibility]] in itself. If I could take it and run with this and (?) I'd be okay with it; but how do I lead the double life and still [[grow]] at the same time?
    
A: What is the [[church]] to you?
 
A: What is the [[church]] to you?
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A: I would be with you, in a sense. Therefore, I would not miss you. I have told several of you that I will [[work]] with you on [[future]] assignments on other worlds; and I know in my [[heart]] as well as my [[mind]] that we will always be [[brothers and sisters]]. That really is not a fair question to ask because I have a much broader [[perspective]] than you do. Therefore, it is easier for me not to miss you the way you might miss me.
 
A: I would be with you, in a sense. Therefore, I would not miss you. I have told several of you that I will [[work]] with you on [[future]] assignments on other worlds; and I know in my [[heart]] as well as my [[mind]] that we will always be [[brothers and sisters]]. That really is not a fair question to ask because I have a much broader [[perspective]] than you do. Therefore, it is easier for me not to miss you the way you might miss me.
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Q: But then you [[understand]] what I'm saying is that if you left, I would miss you and that I would still cling to the [[memories]]. And so I have a lot of [[friends]] all over, from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Lake_City,_UT Salt Lake] to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia Virginia], that are in the [[church]]. And if I leave the church, I'm [[afraid]] a couple of them are going to [[literally]] fall away. There are too many people hanging on to me.
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Q: But then you [[understand]] what I'm saying is that if you left, I would miss you and that I would still cling to the [[memories]]. And so I have a lot of [[friends]] all over, from [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Lake_City,_UT Salt Lake] to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia Virginia], that are in the [[church]]. And if I leave the church, I'm [[afraid]] a couple of them are going to [[literally]] fall away. There are too many people hanging on to me.
    
A: Can you [[control]] this?
 
A: Can you [[control]] this?
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Q: [[Effective]] [[prayer]] is the only thing I can [[think]] of.
 
Q: [[Effective]] [[prayer]] is the only thing I can [[think]] of.
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A: And there is your answer. Always be open. Live your life by [[example]]. Try to do the best that you can. It is not your fault, it is not your inadequacy if they do not [[understand]] you. Do your best to try and [[maintain]] [[communication]] and so that through you they may [[understand]] [[the Father]] more [[clearly]]. But if they cannot, then do not [[worry]] about this. They have the [[spirit fragment]] also. They will in [[time]] either on this [[planet]] or on the [[mansion worlds]], come to the [[understanding]] that you do now. You see it is, that is the [[universe]], is filled with [[love]]. It is [[dominated]] by [[fairness]], by [[understanding]], by[[ truth, beauty and goodness]]. [[All things]] will work toward [[good]]. You may not see it in your lifetime completely, but these things will happen. As you grown in your [[understanding]] of [[the Father]]'s [[love]], you'll begin to see there is no need to [[worry]]. There is no need to feel the loss. You have lost nothing. It is all a part of each other.
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A: And there is your answer. Always be open. Live your life by [[example]]. Try to do the best that you can. It is not your fault, it is not your inadequacy if they do not [[understand]] you. Do your best to try and [[maintain]] [[communication]] and so that through you they may [[understand]] [[the Father]] more [[clearly]]. But if they cannot, then do not [[worry]] about this. They have the [[spirit fragment]] also. They will in [[time]] either on this [[planet]] or on the [[mansion worlds]], come to the [[understanding]] that you do now. You see it is, that is the [[universe]], is filled with [[love]]. It is [[dominated]] by [[fairness]], by [[understanding]], by[[ truth, beauty, and goodness]]. [[All things]] will work toward [[good]]. You may not see it in your lifetime completely, but these things will happen. As you grown in your [[understanding]] of [[the Father]]'s [[love]], you'll begin to see there is no need to [[worry]]. There is no need to feel the loss. You have lost nothing. It is all a part of each other.
    
Q: That makes it a lot easier.
 
Q: That makes it a lot easier.
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===='''''[[Home]]''''', '''''[[Control]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Home]]''''', '''''[[Control]]'''''====
 
Q: Welmek, is there some [[guidance]] you can give us in obtaining the [[cooperation]] of [[family]] members around the house to help with some of the [[necessary]] tasks to maintain the household? ([[laughter]])
 
Q: Welmek, is there some [[guidance]] you can give us in obtaining the [[cooperation]] of [[family]] members around the house to help with some of the [[necessary]] tasks to maintain the household? ([[laughter]])
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Set the example by the life that you [[lead]]. If they do not [[understand]] it, you must ask yourself "How much [[control]] do I have?" If it is a very young child, you have more [[control]]. The older the [[individual]] becomes, on your [[planet]], the less control you seem to have.
 
Set the example by the life that you [[lead]]. If they do not [[understand]] it, you must ask yourself "How much [[control]] do I have?" If it is a very young child, you have more [[control]]. The older the [[individual]] becomes, on your [[planet]], the less control you seem to have.
 
===='''''[[Habit]]''''', '''''[[Parenting]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Habit]]''''', '''''[[Parenting]]'''''====
Q: Welmek, along those lines, where [[children]] are concerned, that's where I'm having a [[problem]] with my two boys. It's a matter of [[control]]; but I [[think]] really it's also with me, a matter of [[knowing]] how much, actually [[understanding]] how much control I have, especially with my older child. He's 15 and he's immature for his age. He doesn't like to make [[decisions]]. Without going into a big long [[story]], it's hard for me not to rant and rave. I'm a ranter and a raver. It's funny that you said that because even this evening, I noticed that I rant and rave the most when I'm concerned about him and when I'm [[frustrated]] also, naturally. But even when I say to myself "I am not going to go off", I still find myself, I don't scream or anything, but I get upset and I fuss, like (barking [[sound]]) I'm [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bark_(utterance) barking] at him, [[practically]]. I know I am because my [[husband]] tells me I'm barking at him. The thing is, that I don't want to do these things; and it's hard for me to break that [[habit]].
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Q: Welmek, along those lines, where [[children]] are concerned, that's where I'm having a [[problem]] with my two boys. It's a matter of [[control]]; but I [[think]] really it's also with me, a matter of [[knowing]] how much, actually [[understanding]] how much control I have, especially with my older child. He's 15 and he's immature for his age. He doesn't like to make [[decisions]]. Without going into a big long [[story]], it's hard for me not to rant and rave. I'm a ranter and a raver. It's funny that you said that because even this evening, I noticed that I rant and rave the most when I'm concerned about him and when I'm [[frustrated]] also, naturally. But even when I say to myself "I am not going to go off", I still find myself, I don't scream or anything, but I get upset and I fuss, like (barking [[sound]]) I'm [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bark_(utterance) barking] at him, [[practically]]. I know I am because my [[husband]] tells me I'm barking at him. The thing is, that I don't want to do these things; and it's hard for me to break that [[habit]].
    
A: There is no [[question]] about this, the [[difficulty]] of breaking [[habits]]. These ways of [[behavior]] have been with you for many years. You have been here just a short time. You make [[sincere]] attempts to make [[changes]]; yet when you find yourself not doing what you really want, that [[frustrates]] you and makes the situation even more [[confusing]], more compounded and more frustrating. Is that not true?
 
A: There is no [[question]] about this, the [[difficulty]] of breaking [[habits]]. These ways of [[behavior]] have been with you for many years. You have been here just a short time. You make [[sincere]] attempts to make [[changes]]; yet when you find yourself not doing what you really want, that [[frustrates]] you and makes the situation even more [[confusing]], more compounded and more frustrating. Is that not true?
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Each time he brings his studies [[home]], he [[achieves]] a certain [[recognition]]. Each time he leaves his studies behind, he goes backwards. You can even take this to the [[point]] of allowing him so much time for his [[games]]. Each time he brings his materials home, he earns, for example, one-half hour of [[play]] time.
 
Each time he brings his studies [[home]], he [[achieves]] a certain [[recognition]]. Each time he leaves his studies behind, he goes backwards. You can even take this to the [[point]] of allowing him so much time for his [[games]]. Each time he brings his materials home, he earns, for example, one-half hour of [[play]] time.
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Sometimes it is, with [[children]], [[necessary]] to take those things away that they [[desire]] the most in order to make your point. But it is crucial, in my [[opinion]], that you do it in a way that they can, maybe not now, but in time, [[understand]] your [[reason]] and [[motivation]]. Rather than [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bark_(utterance) barking] at him, as you say, make him [[understand]] through [[feeling]] as well as [[thought]], what it is you want to help him accomplish. [[Practice]] these things, think about what I have said; and as you [[formulate]] more specific questions, we will address them later. But this is not an insurmountable [[problem]]. Most important is your [[composure]].
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Sometimes it is, with [[children]], [[necessary]] to take those things away that they [[desire]] the most in order to make your point. But it is crucial, in my [[opinion]], that you do it in a way that they can, maybe not now, but in time, [[understand]] your [[reason]] and [[motivation]]. Rather than [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bark_(utterance) barking] at him, as you say, make him [[understand]] through [[feeling]] as well as [[thought]], what it is you want to help him accomplish. [[Practice]] these things, think about what I have said; and as you [[formulate]] more specific questions, we will address them later. But this is not an insurmountable [[problem]]. Most important is your [[composure]].
    
Q: What about it? ([[laughter]])
 
Q: What about it? ([[laughter]])
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Q: I'll talk to you later. Thank you.
 
Q: I'll talk to you later. Thank you.
 
===='''''[[Change]]''''', '''''[[Free will]]====
 
===='''''[[Change]]''''', '''''[[Free will]]====
Q: I'd like to comment on something that is common here which is co- worker situations. First of all, I would say that if I worked with a [[group]] of people like this, it would be easy to [[maintain]] [[God- consciousness]] throughout the day. However, we are all not so fortunate; and as we come to [[realize]] that [[anger]], [[frustration]], resentment, these [[things]] [[affect]] our [[spiritual]] [[growth]], it becomes a [[challenge]] each day to deal with these people and manage our [[emotions]] to prevent those [[negative]] [[emotions]] from affecting us this way. First of all, I think through your teachings I have learned not to be as much like them as I [[realize]] I used to be. If someone was [[angry]] or verbally [[abusive]] towards me, I would gladly return the [[feelings]]. Now I try to keep from that and know that in my [[heart]] know that I'm supposed to [[love]] them and realize their immaturities. But many of you, maybe as well as me, meet up with people on a daily basis who lack any [[love]], [[understanding]] or [[compassion]] and seem to thrive on [[anger]] and verbal [[abuse]] of others. So, as I [[wake]] each [[morning]] and [[promise]] myself I'm going to try, again, which is an everyday thing to improve myself in dealing with these things, it never fails that one of them will push me too far. I'm always, in my evening [[prayers]], asking for [[forgiveness]] for similar situations. I don't know if this is a common thing with co- workers, but with me it is. I find much [[comfort]] in the fact that at least I [[realize]] these things now and never even [[thought]] about them before. So I think I am benefitting and I am [[progressing]] in dealing with them; but [[frustrations]] that we all speak of are very [[apparent]] and are very [[difficult]] to eliminate.
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Q: I'd like to comment on something that is common here which is co- worker situations. First of all, I would say that if I worked with a [[group]] of people like this, it would be easy to [[maintain]] [[God-consciousness]] throughout the day. However, we are all not so fortunate; and as we come to [[realize]] that [[anger]], [[frustration]], resentment, these [[things]] [[affect]] our [[spiritual]] [[growth]], it becomes a [[challenge]] each day to deal with these people and manage our [[emotions]] to prevent those [[negative]] [[emotions]] from affecting us this way. First of all, I think through your teachings I have learned not to be as much like them as I [[realize]] I used to be. If someone was [[angry]] or verbally [[abusive]] towards me, I would gladly return the [[feelings]]. Now I try to keep from that and know that in my [[heart]] know that I'm supposed to [[love]] them and realize their immaturities. But many of you, maybe as well as me, meet up with people on a daily basis who lack any [[love]], [[understanding]] or [[compassion]] and seem to thrive on [[anger]] and verbal [[abuse]] of others. So, as I [[wake]] each [[morning]] and [[promise]] myself I'm going to try, again, which is an everyday thing to improve myself in dealing with these things, it never fails that one of them will push me too far. I'm always, in my evening [[prayers]], asking for [[forgiveness]] for similar situations. I don't know if this is a common thing with co- workers, but with me it is. I find much [[comfort]] in the fact that at least I [[realize]] these things now and never even [[thought]] about them before. So I think I am benefitting and I am [[progressing]] in dealing with them; but [[frustrations]] that we all speak of are very [[apparent]] and are very [[difficult]] to eliminate.
    
A: Do you feel that you will ever be able to [[change]] them, your co- workers?
 
A: Do you feel that you will ever be able to [[change]] them, your co- workers?
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Q: There is also something to be said for finding that outlet for [[frustration]]. For instance, your suggestion to me was to [[write]] in a [[journal]] whenever I became frustrated; and that really helps me because I don't [[think]] that we can prevent frustrating situations in this life. We're always going to have frustrating situations. But the [[point]] is, is to get those [[feelings]] out as quickly as possible so that you don't stifle that spiritual [[growth]].
 
Q: There is also something to be said for finding that outlet for [[frustration]]. For instance, your suggestion to me was to [[write]] in a [[journal]] whenever I became frustrated; and that really helps me because I don't [[think]] that we can prevent frustrating situations in this life. We're always going to have frustrating situations. But the [[point]] is, is to get those [[feelings]] out as quickly as possible so that you don't stifle that spiritual [[growth]].
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===='''''[[Simplicity]]''''', '''''[[Priorities]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Simplicity]]''''', '''''[[Priorities]]'''''====
 
A: But I [[understand]] Mark's situation to seem to be more [[intense]], that each day he begins anew, rededicating his will to [[the Father]], and by the time he retires with his [[prayers]], he constantly asks for [[forgiveness]] for the [[difficulties]], that which he may have said or done, that took him away from doing the will of [[the Father]]. You must [[decide]] for yourself what it is you [[wish]] to do to [[maintain]] your [[existence]] that will [[hopefully]] lend a hand, or at least not add to, the [[difficulties]] that you encounter in trying to find and live the will of [[the Father]] each day. I have said before and will say again: you make your lives too [[difficult]] for yourselves. Learn to live more [[simply]]. That does not give you much [[satisfaction]], does it? ([[laughter]])
 
A: But I [[understand]] Mark's situation to seem to be more [[intense]], that each day he begins anew, rededicating his will to [[the Father]], and by the time he retires with his [[prayers]], he constantly asks for [[forgiveness]] for the [[difficulties]], that which he may have said or done, that took him away from doing the will of [[the Father]]. You must [[decide]] for yourself what it is you [[wish]] to do to [[maintain]] your [[existence]] that will [[hopefully]] lend a hand, or at least not add to, the [[difficulties]] that you encounter in trying to find and live the will of [[the Father]] each day. I have said before and will say again: you make your lives too [[difficult]] for yourselves. Learn to live more [[simply]]. That does not give you much [[satisfaction]], does it? ([[laughter]])
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A: There are some things, once you [[recognize]] you cannot [[change]], you [[simply]] [[accept]]. But by accepting this does not mean that you give in to the ways of [[thinking]] of your [[associates]]. You must always achieve to [[maintain]] this level of [[awareness]] and even beyond. Therefore, in your [[interaction]] with these people, do not be dragged down to their [[energy]]. Allow yourself to [[maintain]] your own, and hopefully, by example, they may be drawn to you and actually, in [[time]], ask you questions. This may or may not happen. You will have to wait and see. But each time you allow yourself to get [[frustrated]], to get down-hearted, you know what it does to you and you know what it takes in order to overcome it and to just get back to where you were before.
 
A: There are some things, once you [[recognize]] you cannot [[change]], you [[simply]] [[accept]]. But by accepting this does not mean that you give in to the ways of [[thinking]] of your [[associates]]. You must always achieve to [[maintain]] this level of [[awareness]] and even beyond. Therefore, in your [[interaction]] with these people, do not be dragged down to their [[energy]]. Allow yourself to [[maintain]] your own, and hopefully, by example, they may be drawn to you and actually, in [[time]], ask you questions. This may or may not happen. You will have to wait and see. But each time you allow yourself to get [[frustrated]], to get down-hearted, you know what it does to you and you know what it takes in order to overcome it and to just get back to where you were before.
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Q: One of the things that I did for myself as I am [[reading]] the [[Jesus papers]] now, I have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_care child care] in my [[home]] and I know that I don't have to do that for the rest of my life. But I found myself, especially when [[Teaching Mission|this mission]] first began, really having a [[difficult]] time because I felt like everyone else was doing something that was much more important than what I was doing and I felt stuck. I was [[complaining]] and I was [[frustrated]] and all of these things. But then [[reading]] [[the Jesus papers]], everything that he did, he never [[complained]]. He did the task at hand and then moved on to the next. And the thing that I have [[realized]] is that my task at hand may last for two years, but two years out of my entire life is a minute. And so it made it easier, not that I don't have those days of [[frustration]] and complaining, but when I saw what [[Jesus]] did and how as a [[young man]] had to [[126:2 The Death of Joseph|take over the father position]] in his [[family]] and did it all without complaint, took [[responsibility]], it gave me more [[courage]] to face my life in the same way and try to find the [[good]] in every single day. I pray every [[morning]] that I will find the [[good]] in every single day. It does help, when you try to look at it from his [[perspective]].
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Q: One of the things that I did for myself as I am [[reading]] the [[Jesus papers]] now, I have [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_care child care] in my [[home]] and I know that I don't have to do that for the rest of my life. But I found myself, especially when [[Teaching Mission|this mission]] first began, really having a [[difficult]] time because I felt like everyone else was doing something that was much more important than what I was doing and I felt stuck. I was [[complaining]] and I was [[frustrated]] and all of these things. But then [[reading]] [[the Jesus papers]], everything that he did, he never [[complained]]. He did the task at hand and then moved on to the next. And the thing that I have [[realized]] is that my task at hand may last for two years, but two years out of my entire life is a minute. And so it made it easier, not that I don't have those days of [[frustration]] and complaining, but when I saw what [[Jesus]] did and how as a [[young man]] had to [[126:2 The Death of Joseph|take over the father position]] in his [[family]] and did it all without complaint, took [[responsibility]], it gave me more [[courage]] to face my life in the same way and try to find the [[good]] in every single day. I pray every [[morning]] that I will find the [[good]] in every single day. It does help, when you try to look at it from his [[perspective]].
    
A: And indeed, it is just that. It is a matter of [[perspective]]. The narrower your perspective, the more [[frustrated]] and [[anxious]] you become. The broader your perspective, the more [[love]]-filled you become. It's a matter of your [[desire]], your [[activity]], as to which [[perspective]] you [[wish]] to take on for yourself. It will not happen overnight. You must [[understand]] these things. You and I have been [[associated]] now for just over 4 months. This is not much [[time]]. The [[habits]] that you have [[developed]] over the years will take time to overcome. I have asked you to do things which you have not really on a [[consistent]] basis done before. Therefore, do not burden yourself terribly with the [[fact]] that you have not [[achieved]] that which you seek to achieve. Give yourself a break, yet don't let up, either. Always, each day, [[worship]] and re-[[dedicate]] yourself and do the best that you can. As we have said, that is all that is being asked of you.
 
A: And indeed, it is just that. It is a matter of [[perspective]]. The narrower your perspective, the more [[frustrated]] and [[anxious]] you become. The broader your perspective, the more [[love]]-filled you become. It's a matter of your [[desire]], your [[activity]], as to which [[perspective]] you [[wish]] to take on for yourself. It will not happen overnight. You must [[understand]] these things. You and I have been [[associated]] now for just over 4 months. This is not much [[time]]. The [[habits]] that you have [[developed]] over the years will take time to overcome. I have asked you to do things which you have not really on a [[consistent]] basis done before. Therefore, do not burden yourself terribly with the [[fact]] that you have not [[achieved]] that which you seek to achieve. Give yourself a break, yet don't let up, either. Always, each day, [[worship]] and re-[[dedicate]] yourself and do the best that you can. As we have said, that is all that is being asked of you.
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Q: They're putting salt in an open wound.
 
Q: They're putting salt in an open wound.
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Q: Believe me, I have made great strides, I think, and of course, everyone has to deal with themselves, and like you say, maybe I'm getting to know myself better because of it, but I have made great strides in dealing with much of what is said and in [[fact]] finding and returning comments using [[humor]] because I seem to poke fun at a lot of [[things]] about life. Comments have been made that I should be a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comedian comedian], things like that, and I'm [[wondering]] if maybe that's part of the way I deal with people, situations, so that I don't resort to [[anger]] and those other things. But it [[amazes]] me how insensitive some people can be, even in jest.
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Q: Believe me, I have made great strides, I think, and of course, everyone has to deal with themselves, and like you say, maybe I'm getting to know myself better because of it, but I have made great strides in dealing with much of what is said and in [[fact]] finding and returning comments using [[humor]] because I seem to poke fun at a lot of [[things]] about life. Comments have been made that I should be a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comedian comedian], things like that, and I'm [[wondering]] if maybe that's part of the way I deal with people, situations, so that I don't resort to [[anger]] and those other things. But it [[amazes]] me how insensitive some people can be, even in jest.
    
Q: Mark, why don't you say, "Why are you being so insensitive?" Put it back on their shoulders, to have to [[explain]] their [[actions]].
 
Q: Mark, why don't you say, "Why are you being so insensitive?" Put it back on their shoulders, to have to [[explain]] their [[actions]].
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Q: You know, this [[group]], these teachings, when you [[surround]] yourself with people who [[love]] you [[sincerely]], who care, who have the same [[motivations]] and [[desires]] as you, it's [[medicine]] for the [[heart]]. There's no [[doubt]] that without this I don't know where I would be. I'm sure I would be self-destructive; but I'm so [[thankful]] and so [[blessed]], I can't talk about [[repetitive]] [[worship]].
 
Q: You know, this [[group]], these teachings, when you [[surround]] yourself with people who [[love]] you [[sincerely]], who care, who have the same [[motivations]] and [[desires]] as you, it's [[medicine]] for the [[heart]]. There's no [[doubt]] that without this I don't know where I would be. I'm sure I would be self-destructive; but I'm so [[thankful]] and so [[blessed]], I can't talk about [[repetitive]] [[worship]].
 
===='''''[[Self Realization]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Self Realization]]'''''====
A: I [[wish]] to make two comments and then move on, if I may. First, once again, [[our Master]] will be your [[model]]. You said that you do not [[understand]] how these [[individuals]] toward you the way that they do, so insensitively, so ignorantly, if you will. Think of how the [[leaders]] [[acted]] toward [[the Master]] when they [[literally]] [[crucified]] him. He looked upon them as with all of the [[children]] of this [[planet]] and asked [[the Father]] to [[forgive]] them because they just did not know what they were doing. And I suggest it is with those you [[work]] with, for if they really did [[understand]] you, if they did have a better understanding of themselves, they would not do these things. Lastly, I can give the best [[advice]] to all of you in this way. Whenever you deal with another [[individual]] that causes [[confrontation]] to begin to swell within yourself, [[simply]] look at this [[individual]] as [[Jesus]]. Allow the [[love]] to begin to [[flow]] through you again; and although their [[behavior]] is less than yours, [[simply]] look at them as [[Jesus]] would: [[forgive]] them Father for they do not know what they are doing. For if they did, they would not treat you this way, as they are treating me. You too are a [[part]] of [[Jesus]], just as they; and you would never treat [[our Master]] this way. Would they, if they [[understood]] the [[meaning]] of what I say to you? If you begin to [[focus]] yourself in this way, and [[honestly]] attempt each time you find yourself in these situations to the best of your [[ability]] to [[perceive]] and [[understand]] and [[feel]] it, then in time you will master all of your situations. You will look at all of the [[difficulties]] that [[face]] you and [[realize]] they are nothing more than an [[opportunity]] to [[grow]] once again. You will [[actually]] give [[thanks]] for those [[obstacles]], those difficult situations that you face; for in the long run, as you look back upon your life, you will see that they were [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Step-stone_bridge stepping stones] to lead you closer to [[the Father]], that very thing which you have been [[praying]] for all along.  
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A: I [[wish]] to make two comments and then move on, if I may. First, once again, [[our Master]] will be your [[model]]. You said that you do not [[understand]] how these [[individuals]] toward you the way that they do, so insensitively, so ignorantly, if you will. Think of how the [[leaders]] [[acted]] toward [[the Master]] when they [[literally]] [[crucified]] him. He looked upon them as with all of the [[children]] of this [[planet]] and asked [[the Father]] to [[forgive]] them because they just did not know what they were doing. And I suggest it is with those you [[work]] with, for if they really did [[understand]] you, if they did have a better understanding of themselves, they would not do these things. Lastly, I can give the best [[advice]] to all of you in this way. Whenever you deal with another [[individual]] that causes [[confrontation]] to begin to swell within yourself, [[simply]] look at this [[individual]] as [[Jesus]]. Allow the [[love]] to begin to [[flow]] through you again; and although their [[behavior]] is less than yours, [[simply]] look at them as [[Jesus]] would: [[forgive]] them Father for they do not know what they are doing. For if they did, they would not treat you this way, as they are treating me. You too are a [[part]] of [[Jesus]], just as they; and you would never treat [[our Master]] this way. Would they, if they [[understood]] the [[meaning]] of what I say to you? If you begin to [[focus]] yourself in this way, and [[honestly]] attempt each time you find yourself in these situations to the best of your [[ability]] to [[perceive]] and [[understand]] and [[feel]] it, then in time you will master all of your situations. You will look at all of the [[difficulties]] that [[face]] you and [[realize]] they are nothing more than an [[opportunity]] to [[grow]] once again. You will [[actually]] give [[thanks]] for those [[obstacles]], those difficult situations that you face; for in the long run, as you look back upon your life, you will see that they were [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Step-stone_bridge stepping stones] to lead you closer to [[the Father]], that very thing which you have been [[praying]] for all along.  
    
With that being said, I wish to make an [[announcement]]. There is another, actually there are several who have been receiving [[communication]] for the past few weeks and some the past few days. This pleases me deeply. Linda Buselli has been [[receiving]] [[communication]] for some time. We will now ask her to join Michael and David in [[speaking]] out loud. What I [[wish]] to do when I turn this [[meeting]] over to her as my [[voice]] [[mechanism]] is to open up this session for general questions and answers. I [[realize]] that I have not addressed that which I told you I would as far as [[parental]] and [[brotherly]] [[love]]; and if you wish to address [[questions]] in this way, we will. This will be a [[practice]] session for her. I [[understand]] that you all [[love]] her and that you must [[realize]] the somewhat nervous situation that this will create within her. For any of you that [[receive]] [[communication]], your [[supreme]] [[desire]] is to never mislead, never misguide and always [[hope]] that what you receive is actually that of either another being or of your [[higher self]]. As I have told you before, it matters not the [[source]] as much as the [[content]]. Ask your [[questions]] freely to me, and I will [[respond]] through her. I will ask that those who feel comfortable to [[engage]] her in your [[private]] sessions, for as you know we are losing David temporarily for most of the private sessions he has volunteered to do. I do not [[wish]] to lose the [[opportunity]] to speak to you. Therefore, it is time for Linda to become a part of the [[speaking]] group. One moment please.
 
With that being said, I wish to make an [[announcement]]. There is another, actually there are several who have been receiving [[communication]] for the past few weeks and some the past few days. This pleases me deeply. Linda Buselli has been [[receiving]] [[communication]] for some time. We will now ask her to join Michael and David in [[speaking]] out loud. What I [[wish]] to do when I turn this [[meeting]] over to her as my [[voice]] [[mechanism]] is to open up this session for general questions and answers. I [[realize]] that I have not addressed that which I told you I would as far as [[parental]] and [[brotherly]] [[love]]; and if you wish to address [[questions]] in this way, we will. This will be a [[practice]] session for her. I [[understand]] that you all [[love]] her and that you must [[realize]] the somewhat nervous situation that this will create within her. For any of you that [[receive]] [[communication]], your [[supreme]] [[desire]] is to never mislead, never misguide and always [[hope]] that what you receive is actually that of either another being or of your [[higher self]]. As I have told you before, it matters not the [[source]] as much as the [[content]]. Ask your [[questions]] freely to me, and I will [[respond]] through her. I will ask that those who feel comfortable to [[engage]] her in your [[private]] sessions, for as you know we are losing David temporarily for most of the private sessions he has volunteered to do. I do not [[wish]] to lose the [[opportunity]] to speak to you. Therefore, it is time for Linda to become a part of the [[speaking]] group. One moment please.
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Q: Welmek, I have a [[question]] on a [[different]] subject. The speaker that spoke to us during our opening said that we had done things as a [[group]] that had been helpful. Can you [[explain]] what those things are? And I [[assume]] that that was helpful to [[Teaching Mission|the mission]].
 
Q: Welmek, I have a [[question]] on a [[different]] subject. The speaker that spoke to us during our opening said that we had done things as a [[group]] that had been helpful. Can you [[explain]] what those things are? And I [[assume]] that that was helpful to [[Teaching Mission|the mission]].
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A: Every [[group]] has a part in the [[mission]] as a [[whole]]. Your group has been, partly because of its [[numbers]], particularly active in certain areas. As I have spoken of before, your [[support]] of other [[groups]] is more important than you [[realize]]. There is [[energy]] generated in a group of this size that is useful and can be helpful to other groups in a [[support]] [[frame of reference]]. Many of you are in [[contact]] [[personally]] with those in other groups. You have [[stimulated]] an interest in groups that might not yet have formed without this additional help. All of these things help the [[mission]] more than you [[realize]]. There is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripple_effect ripple effect], as you would call it. For all that you do, as [[individuals]] and as [[support]] as a [[group]], more happens than you will ever really [[understand]]. This group also, because of its size, has been useful in several [[experiments]]. This has helped us to [[understand]] [[humans]] in certain ways and to try new [[techniques]] of reaching you, [[mindally]], and with helping you [[spiritually]]. All of these things have been helpful to us, and we are very [[appreciative]] of the [[dedication]] of all of you. You have helped more than you know.
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A: Every [[group]] has a part in the [[mission]] as a [[whole]]. Your group has been, partly because of its [[numbers]], particularly active in certain areas. As I have spoken of before, your [[support]] of other [[groups]] is more important than you [[realize]]. There is [[energy]] generated in a group of this size that is useful and can be helpful to other groups in a [[support]] [[frame of reference]]. Many of you are in [[contact]] [[personally]] with those in other groups. You have [[stimulated]] an interest in groups that might not yet have formed without this additional help. All of these things help the [[mission]] more than you [[realize]]. There is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripple_effect ripple effect], as you would call it. For all that you do, as [[individuals]] and as [[support]] as a [[group]], more happens than you will ever really [[understand]]. This group also, because of its size, has been useful in several [[experiments]]. This has helped us to [[understand]] [[humans]] in certain ways and to try new [[techniques]] of reaching you, [[mindally]], and with helping you [[spiritually]]. All of these things have been helpful to us, and we are very [[appreciative]] of the [[dedication]] of all of you. You have helped more than you know.
    
Q: I had one question, and this is just a [[clarification]]. When we talk about [[Teaching Mission|the mission]], my [[understanding]] is that basically, the overall [[mission]] is just to do whatever we can as [[individuals]] to help bring the world into [[Light and Life]]; and while this is a very kind of [[simplistic]] overview, that's my [[understanding]]. That is correct?
 
Q: I had one question, and this is just a [[clarification]]. When we talk about [[Teaching Mission|the mission]], my [[understanding]] is that basically, the overall [[mission]] is just to do whatever we can as [[individuals]] to help bring the world into [[Light and Life]]; and while this is a very kind of [[simplistic]] overview, that's my [[understanding]]. That is correct?
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Q: Welmek, I'm [[curious]]. Since you've had an [[opportunity]] to view us [[humans]], what are your [[opinions]], be they [[positive]] or [[negative]] about [[humor]] and how we use it or apply it in our lives?
 
Q: Welmek, I'm [[curious]]. Since you've had an [[opportunity]] to view us [[humans]], what are your [[opinions]], be they [[positive]] or [[negative]] about [[humor]] and how we use it or apply it in our lives?
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A: I have attempted to [[learn]] more about this since I have been here. I [[hope]] I have improved. ([[laughter]]) Thank you. [[Humor]] is important on this [[planet]]. I did not fully [[understand]] this at first. There is, as I have said before, on a [[planet]] such as mine, there is less [[contrast]], and therefore, [[humor]] is not acquired to any great [[degree]] by persons on my planet or persons on planets in [[Light and Life]]. I had to acquire a sense of [[humor]] or an understanding of it on the [[morontia worlds]]. But I can [[assure]] you, I was not [[prepared]] for the [[degree]] of [[humor]] I have found here. Humor on [[morontia]]l levels is somewhat [[different]]. Your humor is, at times, not as [[sophisticated]] as it might be ([[laughter]]), but I have found that I enjoy it a great deal, and I am still working on my sense of [[humor]].
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A: I have attempted to [[learn]] more about this since I have been here. I [[hope]] I have improved. ([[laughter]]) Thank you. [[Humor]] is important on this [[planet]]. I did not fully [[understand]] this at first. There is, as I have said before, on a [[planet]] such as mine, there is less [[contrast]], and therefore, [[humor]] is not acquired to any great [[degree]] by persons on my planet or persons on planets in [[Light and Life]]. I had to acquire a sense of [[humor]] or an understanding of it on the [[morontia worlds]]. But I can [[assure]] you, I was not [[prepared]] for the [[degree]] of [[humor]] I have found here. Humor on [[morontia]]l levels is somewhat [[different]]. Your humor is, at times, not as [[Sophism|sophisticated]] as it might be ([[laughter]]), but I have found that I enjoy it a great deal, and I am still working on my sense of [[humor]].
    
Q: I have a follow-up to that. It has been said that laughter has [[healing]] [[powers]]. Is that correct?
 
Q: I have a follow-up to that. It has been said that laughter has [[healing]] [[powers]]. Is that correct?
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A: I have come to [[understand]] that better since I have been here.
 
A: I have come to [[understand]] that better since I have been here.
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===='''''[[Christmas]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Christmas]]'''''====
 
Q: Welmek, with the [[Christmas]] [[season]] coming on, how does the rest of the world [[perceive]] our Christmas holiday spirit?
 
Q: Welmek, with the [[Christmas]] [[season]] coming on, how does the rest of the world [[perceive]] our Christmas holiday spirit?
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A: The general consensus is that it is unfortunate that the [[birth]] of [[the Master]] seems to be so overshadowed by commercial [[greed]], by non- [[religious]] activities. It is truly unfortunate that so many of the people on this [[planet]] do not [[understand]] the importance of what occurred here when [[Jesus]] was born. If the [[mortals]] of this planet really understood the [[meaning]] of a [[Creator Son]], a being so mighty, taking the form of a [[human]] [[baby]], a helpless [[human being]], and all of the [[universe]] implications involved, I can [[assure]] you there would be a good deal less of the commercial [[point of view]].
 
A: The general consensus is that it is unfortunate that the [[birth]] of [[the Master]] seems to be so overshadowed by commercial [[greed]], by non- [[religious]] activities. It is truly unfortunate that so many of the people on this [[planet]] do not [[understand]] the importance of what occurred here when [[Jesus]] was born. If the [[mortals]] of this planet really understood the [[meaning]] of a [[Creator Son]], a being so mighty, taking the form of a [[human]] [[baby]], a helpless [[human being]], and all of the [[universe]] implications involved, I can [[assure]] you there would be a good deal less of the commercial [[point of view]].
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Q: Do you find that throughout the world or throughout the [[earth]] itself that people tend towards [[Christmast]]ime to [[think]] more of one another and there's more concern about one another?
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Q: Do you find that throughout the world or throughout the [[earth]] itself that people tend towards [[Christmas]]time to [[think]] more of one another and there's more concern about one another?
    
A: This is talked about a great deal in [[Christian]] countries. There is an [[effort]] made, and there are [[individuals]] who really do apply a religious, a [[spiritual]] meaning to the day. However, on the whole, there is much that could be done and will be done in [[future]] in [[appreciating]] exactly what the [[birth]] of [[the Master]] meant.
 
A: This is talked about a great deal in [[Christian]] countries. There is an [[effort]] made, and there are [[individuals]] who really do apply a religious, a [[spiritual]] meaning to the day. However, on the whole, there is much that could be done and will be done in [[future]] in [[appreciating]] exactly what the [[birth]] of [[the Master]] meant.
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Q: As we get closer to [[Light and Life]], will the actual date of [[Jesus]]' [[birthday]] change? Since we know he was born on the [[122:8|21st of August]], will [[Christmas]] stop and more of a birthday [[celebration]] for [[Jesus]] in August happen?
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Q: As we get closer to [[Light and Life]], will the actual date of [[Jesus]]' birthday change? Since we know he was born on the [[122:8|21st of August]], will [[Christmas]] stop and more of a birthday [[celebration]] for [[Jesus]] in August happen?
    
A: This is [[difficult]] to say. [[Eventually]], as more people [[understand]] this may occur among groups. This is strictly a [[human]] [[decision]]; and some may for sentimental reasons even, choose to keep [[Christmas]] for some [[generations]] to come.
 
A: This is [[difficult]] to say. [[Eventually]], as more people [[understand]] this may occur among groups. This is strictly a [[human]] [[decision]]; and some may for sentimental reasons even, choose to keep [[Christmas]] for some [[generations]] to come.
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===='''''[[Presence]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Presence]]'''''====
 
Q: Welmek, when you talk about seeing [[Christ]] in someone else, you [[reference]] this in a [[literal]] sense, correct?
 
Q: Welmek, when you talk about seeing [[Christ]] in someone else, you [[reference]] this in a [[literal]] sense, correct?
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Q: Is there a correlation, then, between this and why [[Jesus]] was never
 
Q: Is there a correlation, then, between this and why [[Jesus]] was never
[[Disease|ill in his adult life and later teen life, because he looked at
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[[Disease|ill]] in his adult life and later teen life, because he looked at
 
people in this way?
 
people in this way?
    
A: This was certainly part of his [[physical]] [[health]], yes. There were
 
A: This was certainly part of his [[physical]] [[health]], yes. There were
 
some other reasons which I will not go into at this time.
 
some other reasons which I will not go into at this time.
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Q: Welmek, I have a question I would like to get answered tonight, but
 
Q: Welmek, I have a question I would like to get answered tonight, but
 
I feel a sense that I should defer to others who might be here for
 
I feel a sense that I should defer to others who might be here for
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their [[family]]. This is the most immediate example of the [[difference]].
 
their [[family]]. This is the most immediate example of the [[difference]].
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There is an important [[difference]], which is why in the [[ascension
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There is an important [[difference]], which is why in the [[ascension career]] it is important that every [[individual]] undergo the [[parental]]
career]] it is important that every [[individual]] undergo the [[parental]]
   
[[experience]]. Because until you can [[understand]] this, it is [[difficult]]
 
[[experience]]. Because until you can [[understand]] this, it is [[difficult]]
 
to understand how [[the Father]] loves you. Does this help?
 
to understand how [[the Father]] loves you. Does this help?
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[[individual]] that you feel could benefit from learning these [[truths]]
 
[[individual]] that you feel could benefit from learning these [[truths]]
 
that you have acquired?
 
that you have acquired?
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===='''''[[Love]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Love]]'''''====
 
Q: Yes, the [[conversations]] occurred after our session last Friday night
 
Q: Yes, the [[conversations]] occurred after our session last Friday night
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[[stimulate]] any [[ideas]]?
 
[[stimulate]] any [[ideas]]?
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Q: It's unconditional. It's [[love that]]'s given just because of (words
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Q: It's unconditional. It's [[love]] that's given just because of (words
 
lost) because you have a particular characteristic. It's just the
 
lost) because you have a particular characteristic. It's just the
 
[[fact]] that you exist, you are a member of [[God]]'s [[family]] and you should
 
[[fact]] that you exist, you are a member of [[God]]'s [[family]] and you should
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as we're all part of the same [[planet]], part of the same [[the System|system]] and
 
as we're all part of the same [[planet]], part of the same [[the System|system]] and
 
the same [[Local Universe|universe]].
 
the same [[Local Universe|universe]].
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===='''''[[Parenting]]''''', '''''[[Experience]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Parenting]]''''', '''''[[Experience]]'''''====
 
Q: You know, I made the same comment last week. Is it even possible to
 
Q: You know, I made the same comment last week. Is it even possible to
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know that [[love]].
 
know that [[love]].
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Q: I think too, that having a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepchildren step-child] before I had a child of my
 
own, that after I had the child of my own, my [[love]] increased for my
 
own, that after I had the child of my own, my [[love]] increased for my
 
step-child and my [[understanding]] of nurturing him was increased. So
 
step-child and my [[understanding]] of nurturing him was increased. So
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