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Q: Yes.

Q: Yes.

 

A: Since [[God]] has always been there, then you have lost nothing. If you find that the [[church]] can no longer [[satisfy]] your [[desires]], or you can no longer satisfy your [[church]]'s desires, perhaps it is time then for you to make the [[separation]].

A: Since [[God]] has always been there, then you have lost nothing. If you find that the [[church]] can no longer [[satisfy]] your [[desires]], or you can no longer satisfy your [[church]]'s desires, perhaps it is time then for you to make the [[separation]].

A: I would [[encourage]] you to [[pray]] for these people. You are more fortunate than they, and you should give [[thanks]] to [[the Father]] for this. You have evolved past their [[understanding]]. This [[evolution]] will be an ongoing [[process]]; for as you [[experience]] universe [[reality]], your [[awareness]] of [[the Father]] will continue to expand. And so it is. I do not [[understand]] the [[dilemma]] if indeed there is one, that this creates within you, however, as far as your [[desire]] to leave the church, yet you feel compelled to stay. Do I misunderstand you?

A: I would [[encourage]] you to [[pray]] for these people. You are more fortunate than they, and you should give [[thanks]] to [[the Father]] for this. You have evolved past their [[understanding]]. This [[evolution]] will be an ongoing [[process]]; for as you [[experience]] universe [[reality]], your [[awareness]] of [[the Father]] will continue to expand. And so it is. I do not [[understand]] the [[dilemma]] if indeed there is one, that this creates within you, however, as far as your [[desire]] to leave the church, yet you feel compelled to stay. Do I misunderstand you?

 

Q: Welmek, was there something in your [[childhood]] that you wanted to hang onto that was very [[comforting]], that you had to leave behind?

Q: Welmek, was there something in your [[childhood]] that you wanted to hang onto that was very [[comforting]], that you had to leave behind?

Q: Okay, let me ask you this one. If [[Machiventa]] came to you and said that you could no longer come to this [[group]], that you had to go elsewhere, would you miss us?

Q: Okay, let me ask you this one. If [[Machiventa]] came to you and said that you could no longer come to this [[group]], that you had to go elsewhere, would you miss us?

A: I would be with you, in a sense. Therefore, I would not miss you. I have told several of you that I will work with you on future assignments on other worlds; and I know in my heart as well as my mind that we will always be brothers and sisters. That really is not a fair question to ask because I have a much broader perspective than you do. Therefore, it is easier for me not to miss you the way you might miss me.

A: I would be with you, in a sense. Therefore, I would not miss you. I have told several of you that I will [[work]] with you on [[future]] assignments on other worlds; and I know in my [[heart]] as well as my [[mind]] that we will always be [[brothers and sisters]]. That really is not a fair question to ask because I have a much broader [[perspective]] than you do. Therefore, it is easier for me not to miss you the way you might miss me.

Q: But then you understand what I'm saying is that if you left, I would miss you and that I would still cling to the memories. And so I have a lot of friends all over, from Salt Lake to Virginia, that are in the church. And if I leave the church, I'm afraid a couple of them are going to literally fall away. There are too many people hanging on to me.

Q: But then you [[understand]] what I'm saying is that if you left, I would miss you and that I would still cling to the [[memories]]. And so I have a lot of [[friends]] all over, from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Lake_City,_UT Salt Lake] to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia Virginia], that are in the [[church]]. And if I leave the church, I'm [[afraid]] a couple of them are going to [[literally]] fall away. There are too many people hanging on to me.

A: Can you control this?

A: Can you [[control]] this?

Q: No.

Q: No.

A: Therefore, why try? Again, what is it that you can do that will help them the most?

A: Therefore, why try? Again, what is it that you can do that will help them the most?

Q: Effective prayer is the only thing I can think of.

Q: [[Effective]] [[prayer]] is the only thing I can [[think]] of.

A: And there is your answer. Always be open. Live your life by example. Try to do the best that you can. It is not your fault, it is not your inadequacy if they do not understand you. Do your best to try and maintain communication and so that through you they may understand the Father more clearly. But if they cannot, then do not worry about this. They have the spirit fragment also. They will in time either on this planet or on the mansion worlds, come to the understanding that you do now. You see it is, that is the universe, is filled with love. It is dominated by fairness, by understanding, by truth, beauty and goodness. All things will work toward good. You may not see it in your lifetime completely, but these things will happen. As you grown in your understanding of the Father's love, you'll begin to see there is no need to worry. There is no need to feel the loss. You have lost nothing. It is all a part of each other.

A: And there is your answer. Always be open. Live your life by [[example]]. Try to do the best that you can. It is not your fault, it is not your inadequacy if they do not [[understand]] you. Do your best to try and [[maintain]] [[communication]] and so that through you they may [[understand]] [[the Father]] more [[clearly]]. But if they cannot, then do not [[worry]] about this. They have the [[spirit fragment]] also. They will in [[time]] either on this [[planet]] or on the [[mansion worlds]], come to the [[understanding]] that you do now. You see it is, that is the [[universe]], is filled with [[love]]. It is [[dominated]] by [[fairness]], by [[understanding]], by[[ truth, beauty and goodness]]. [[All things]] will work toward [[good]]. You may not see it in your lifetime completely, but these things will happen. As you grown in your [[understanding]] of [[the Father]]'s [[love]], you'll begin to see there is no need to [[worry]]. There is no need to feel the loss. You have lost nothing. It is all a part of each other.

Q: That makes it a lot easier.

Q: That makes it a lot easier.

Q: A whip and chair...([[laughter]])

 

Q: A whip and chair...(laughter)

Q: I realize this isn't truly a spiritual question, but is it something that does lead to less than harmonious family relationships.

Q: I [[realize]] this isn't truly a [[spiritual]] question, but is it something that does lead to less than [[harmonious]] family [[relationships]].

A: I suppose the lesson here is not so much for me to tell you what I would suggest that you do to motivate those that you wish to motivate, but more to look at yourself and deal with the situation at hand. How can you maintain your self-image when those around you do not do what it is you have asked them to do. When they refuse to do what you want them to do, you feel as though they do not support you. When you feel as though one does not support you, then you feel as though you become alienated. You feel hurt, you feel angered. Emotions begin to swell, and then all of a sudden you're out of control. Is this not how it happens? (laughter) You all should remember this in dealing with your brothers and sisters. Whether they are your children, your mother or your father, in the bigger picture, they are all your brothers and sisters. Do you not remember in the small room during the last meal that our Master shared with the l2 when they were bickering about who would get to sit next to him? We have shared this story before, but is it not important to understand the real meaning behind our Master washing their feet? How is it that the Creator of a universe kneels before a lowly human and humbles himself in selfless love, that we cannot do the same.

A: I suppose the lesson here is not so much for me to tell you what I would suggest that you do to [[motivate]] those that you [[wish]] to motivate, but more to look at yourself and deal with the situation at hand. How can you [[maintain]] your [[self]]-[[image]] when those around you do not do what it is you have asked them to do. When they refuse to do what you want them to do, you [[feel]] as though they do not [[support]] you. When you [[feel]] as though one does not support you, then you feel as though you become [[alienated]]. You feel hurt, you feel [[angered]]. [[Emotions]] begin to swell, and then all of a sudden you're out of [[control]]. Is this not how it happens? ([[laughter]]) You all should [[remember]] this in dealing with your brothers and sisters. Whether they are your [[children]], your [[mother]] or your [[father]], in the bigger picture, they are all your [[brothers and sisters]]. Do you not [[remember]] in the small room during the last meal that [[our Master]] shared with the 12 when they were bickering about who would get to sit next to him? We have [[shared]] this [[story]] before, but is it not important to [[understand]] the real [[meaning]] behind [[our Master]] [[179:3 Washing the Apostle's Feet|washing their feet]]? How is it that the [[Creator Son|Creator]] of a [[universe]] kneels before a lowly [[human]] and [[humbles]] himself in [[selfless]] [[love]], that we cannot do the same.

The lack of maturity on the part of those who do not take responsibility is unfortunate, I agree with you. But simply look at them as children, whether they are chronologically children or not; as far as universe experience, they truly are. They do not understand how important it is to be privileged and the duty that goes along with this privilege when you recognize that you are a child of the Father and a citizen of this universe.

The lack of [[maturity]] on the part of those who do not take [[responsibility]] is unfortunate, I [[agree]] with you. But [[simply]] look at them as [[children]], whether they are [[chronologically]] children or not; as far as [[universe]] [[experience]], they truly are. They do not [[understand]] how important it is to be [[privileged]] and the [[duty]] that goes along with this privilege when you [[recognize]] that you are a child of [[the Father]] and a [[citizen]] of this [[universe]].

Remember, whomever you do anything for, you do it for Jesus. This is very important; and I am pleased that you have asked this question. For on the surface, it seems absurd; but the real crux of the matter is exactly what it is I wish to talk about. You have an opportunity to serve. This does not mean that people should railroad you, should run over you or should take advantage of you. But yet, you do have this opportunity that stares you in the face. It is your choice as to how you decide you will react. If you allow your emotions to take over, if you begin to, as you say, rant and rave, you lose this control; and it does take a while to regain your composure. For when you go into your stillness, these thoughts come to your mind rather than feeling the Father's love. It then delays the progress that you are trying to make.

Remember, whomever you do anything for, you do it for [[Jesus]]. This is very important; and I am pleased that you have asked this question. For on the [[surface]], it seems absurd; but the real [[crux]] of the matter is exactly what it is I [[wish]] to talk about. You have an [[opportunity]] to serve. This does not mean that people should [[Coercion|railroad]] you, should run over you or should take [[advantage]] of you. But yet, you do have this [[opportunity]] that stares you in the [[face]]. It is your [[choice]] as to how you decide you will [[react]]. If you allow your [[emotions]] to take over, if you begin to, as you say, rant and rave, you lose this [[control]]; and it does take a while to regain your [[composure]]. For when you go into your [[stillness]], these [[thoughts]] come to your [[mind]] rather than [[feeling]] [[the Father]]'s [[love]]. It then delays the [[progress]] that you are trying to make.

Set the example by the life that you lead. If they do not understand it, you must ask yourself "How much control do I have?" If it is a very young child, you have more control. The older the individual becomes, on your planet, the less control you seem to have.

Set the example by the life that you [[lead]]. If they do not [[understand]] it, you must ask yourself "How much [[control]] do I have?" If it is a very young child, you have more [[control]]. The older the [[individual]] becomes, on your [[planet]], the less control you seem to have.

Q: Welmek, along those lines, where [[children]] are concerned, that's where I'm having a [[problem]] with my two boys. It's a matter of [[control]]; but I [[think]] really it's also with me, a matter of [[knowing]] how much, actually [[understanding]] how much control I have, especially with my older child. He's 15 and he's immature for his age. He doesn't like to make [[decisions]]. Without going into a big long [[story]], it's hard for me not to rant and rave. I'm a ranter and a raver. It's funny that you said that because even this evening, I noticed that I rant and rave the most when I'm concerned about him and when I'm [[frustrated]] also, naturally. But even when I say to myself "I am not going to go off", I still find myself, I don't scream or anything, but I get upset and I fuss, like (barking [[sound]]) I'm [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bark_(utterance) barking] at him, [[practically]]. I know I am because my [[husband]] tells me I'm barking at him. The thing is, that I don't want to do these things; and it's hard for me to break that [[habit]].

A: There is no [[question]] about this, the [[difficulty]] of breaking [[habits]]. These ways of [[behavior]] have been with you for many years. You have been here just a short time. You make [[sincere]] attempts to make [[changes]]; yet when you find yourself not doing what you really want, that [[frustrates]] you and makes the situation even more [[confusing]], more compounded and more frustrating. Is that not true?

 

A: There is no question about this, the difficulty of breaking habits. These ways of behavior have been with you for many years. You have been here just a short time. You make sincere attempts to make changes; yet when you find yourself not doing what you really want, that frustrates you and makes the situation even more confusing, more compounded and more frustrating. Is that not true?

Q: Oh, yes.

Q: Oh, yes.

A: Give me an example of what causes you to behave this way with your son, and we'll investigate alternatives.

A: Give me an [[example]] of what causes you to behave this way with your son, and we'll [[investigate]] [[alternatives]].

Q: Okay. He's a real smart boy, very smart; and he has a bad time in school, not because he can't do the work but because he won't do his schoolwork. Over the years we've tried a lot of different things with a lot of different people, and actually not to much avail; except he's actually improved as far as when he decides to do his schoolwork, he'll get an A for the grading period. When he doesn't want to do it, he'll just get an F. So we're trying to at least get him into the habit of study and self-discipline.

Q: Okay. He's a real smart boy, very smart; and he has a bad time in [[school]], not because he can't do the [[work]] but because he won't do his schoolwork. Over the years we've tried a lot of [[different]] things with a lot of different people, and actually not to much avail; except he's actually improved as far as when he [[decides]] to do his schoolwork, he'll get an A for the grading period. When he doesn't want to do it, he'll just get an F. So we're trying to at least get him into the [[habit]] of [[study]] and [[self]]-[[discipline]].

A: And how do you do that?

A: And how do you do that?

Q: Well, he has to bring home an assignment sheet. It has the assignments written down and countersigned by the teachers so that everybody knows what he's supposed to do and he can't deny that he has that work to do. Then he's also to bring his homework home and do it. Today was a good example. He didn't bring the assignment sheet home. Coincidentally, he had no homework. This is a freshman in high school, or junior high school and it's kind of hard to believe that he didn't have any homework when he's had work every day for the last I don't know how many weeks. So that was when I did my barking routine.

Q: Well, he has to bring home an assignment sheet. It has the assignments written down and countersigned by the [[teachers]] so that everybody knows what he's [[supposed]] to do and he can't deny that he has that work to do. Then he's also to bring his homework [[home]] and do it. Today was a good [[example]]. He didn't bring the assignment sheet home. [[Coincidentally]], he had no homework. This is a freshman in high school, or junior high school and it's kind of hard to [[believe]] that he didn't have any homework when he's had work every day for the last I don't know how many weeks. So that was when I did my barking [[routine]].

A: If our Master came to you and had a problem with math, would you be willing to sit down with him in a loving attitude and work with him?

A: If [[our Master]] came to you and had a [[problem]] with [[math]], would you be willing to sit down with him in a loving [[attitude]] and [[work]] with him?

Q: Um-hm.

Q: Um-hm.

A: Then I would suggest you do the same with your son. On a routine basis, sit down with him and participate in his studies with him. Do this on a regular basis for a while. Then start to do it on an intermittent basis, so that he never knows when Mom or Dad will show up. Always monitor his progress until it becomes a habit for him. There are times in these situations where you must take a very aggressive leading.

A: Then I would suggest you do the same with your son. On a routine basis, sit down with him and [[participate]] in his [[studies]] with him. Do this on a regular basis for a while. Then start to do it on an intermittent basis, so that he never knows when Mom or Dad will show up. Always monitor his [[progress]] until it becomes a [[habit]] for him. There are times in these situations where you must take a very [[aggressive]] [[leading]].

Q: That's not the problem. We do go over his homework with him and we make ourselves available, especially if he has a test or something coming up. It's not all the time, but we spend a lot of time, really, with him and his homework. The thing is, is to get him to actually bring the stuff home and to bring all his study materials home and everything. That's where the frustration sets in. It's not that he can't do the work. Every assignment so far in his life that he's gotten, if he's ever done it, he's done well. It's getting time to actually do it that's so frustrating and so difficult.

Q: That's not the [[problem]]. We do go over his homework with him and we make ourselves available, especially if he has a test or something coming up. It's not all the [[time]], but we spend a lot of time, really, with him and his homework. The thing is, is to get him to actually bring the stuff [[home]] and to bring all his [[study]] materials home and everything. That's where the [[frustration]] sets in. It's not that he can't do the work. Every assignment so far in his life that he's gotten, if he's ever done it, he's done well. It's getting time to actually do it that's so [[frustrating]] and so [[difficult]].

Q: Mary, is that a control over you? I had the same problem with Heather.

Q: Mary, is that a [[control]] over you? I had the same problem with Heather.

Q: Well, at this point I really think it's a habit. It's a matter of he wants to do well, he has aspirations and wants to be a doctor and all this kind of thing. He understands that he needs to do the work, but years have gone by where he's coped with these really bad study habits.

Q: Well, at this [[point]] I really think it's a [[habit]]. It's a matter of he wants to do well, he has [[aspirations]] and wants to be a [[doctor]] and all this kind of thing. He [[understands]] that he needs to do the [[work]], but years have gone by where he's coped with these really bad [[study]] [[habits]].

Q: Heather did that, and what we did with Heather, Welmek had good suggestions. What I did was, all through grade school, I'd sit down with her and make sure she got her homework, and we had the same problem. She'd left it at school and we'd go back and get it. What I did was, I said you're in high school now, you're responsible for yourself. If you want good grades, you have to get them. If you want me, come to me. And I backed off and left her alone; and Heather graduated with honors and got seven scholarships.

Q: Heather did that, and what we did with Heather, Welmek had good suggestions. What I did was, all through grade school, I'd sit down with her and make sure she got her homework, and we had the same [[problem]]. She'd left it at [[school]] and we'd go back and get it. What I did was, I said you're in high school now, you're [[responsible]] for yourself. If you want good grades, you have to get them. If you want me, come to me. And I backed off and left her [[alone]]; and Heather [[graduated]] with [[honors]] and got seven scholarships.

Q: Ryan's problem is a little more complicated.

Q: Ryan's [[problem]] is a little more [[complicated]].

Q: May I make a comment please? I was one of the kind of students that you're describing your son to be, when I was in school. I never used to do homework; I always forgot it. I knew I had homework, I just didn't want to do it. What changed me my senior year, and it wasn't a whole sweeping change, but what changed me is when I decided what I wanted to do, where I wanted to go and what I wanted to be. It wasn't until I made that decision and made it stick with me inside of me that made the changes.

Q: May I make a comment please? I was one of the kind of [[students]] that you're describing your son to be, when I was in [[school]]. I never used to do homework; I always forgot it. I knew I had homework, I just didn't want to do it. What [[changed]] me my senior year, and it wasn't a whole sweeping change, but what changed me is when I [[decided]] what I wanted to do, where I wanted to go and what I wanted to be. It wasn't until I made that [[decision]] and made it stick with me inside of me that made the changes.

Q: Let me make this clear. I'm at the point with Ryan where I know he's a good kid. I know anything that he wants to do and sets out to do, he'll do well. He gets along with people, he's generous; and I really can't say anything bad about him. I'm just concerned about his ability to prepare himself for what he wants to do. I'm pretty much convinced that there is a window of opportunity for a teenager as far as being prepared for whatever you want to do in life, and that if you miss out on it, it's not impossible for you to catch up but there's that much more time that you have to put into it. So my question right now to you, Welmek, is how do I first of all, remember the things that I have learned over the years about him, and how do I just, like you say, get enough self-control, remember what my over-all goal is. I think about these things and the next thing I know (barking sound). It's frustrating to me and it's very de-energizing, I guess, for me; and I know it doesn't do him any good. I'm always working with this, and now I'm asking you.

Q: Let me make this [[clear]]. I'm at the [[point]] with Ryan where I know he's a [[good]] kid. I know anything that he wants to do and sets out to do, he'll do well. He gets along with people, he's [[generous]]; and I really can't say anything bad about him. I'm just concerned about his [[ability]] to [[prepare]] himself for what he wants to do. I'm pretty much convinced that there is a window of [[opportunity]] for a [[teenager]] as far as being [[prepared]] for whatever you want to do in life, and that if you miss out on it, it's not impossible for you to catch up but there's that much more time that you have to put into it. So my question right now to you, Welmek, is how do I first of all, [[remember]] the things that I have [[learned]] over the years about him, and how do I just, like you say, get enough [[self]]-[[control]], [[remember]] what my over-all goal is. I [[think]] about these things and the next thing I know (barking sound). It's [[frustrating]] to me and it's very de-energizing, I guess, for me; and I know it doesn't do him any [[good]]. I'm always working with this, and now I'm asking you.

 

A: Does he have anything that he enjoys doing or would like to do?

A: Does he have anything that he [[enjoys]] doing or would like to do?

Q: He plays basketball.

Q: He plays basketball.

A: What else?

A: What else?

Q: (?) Hanging out with his buddies...anything physical really. He likes physical activity, games, and all that.

Q: (?) Hanging out with his buddies...anything [[physical]] really. He likes physical [[activity]], [[games]], and all that.

A: Are there any material objects that he desires?

A: Are there any [[material]] objects that he [[desires]]?

Q: A car. He's supposed to be giving me a list. He says that the things that he wants are too expensive for us this year for Christmas, so I'm kind of interested to see what he wants. One thing I know he wants is like a basketball.

Q: A car. He's [[supposed]] to be giving me a list. He says that the [[things]] that he wants are too expensive for us this year for [[Christmas]], so I'm kind of interested to see what he wants. One thing I know he wants is like a basketball.

A: It seems to be a most effective motivator on your world if you set something in front of an individual and show them how to achieve it, they will usually go after it as long as it is within grasp. What is important to do in this process is to set the steps. Make sure that it is clearly understood what must be done in order to achieve the desired result. If, let's say for example, this basketball goal is a desire of your son's, then rather than just putting it out in front of him, show him what he must do to achieve it. You can do this many ways. You can do it through an earned credit system, for one example, which I would be happy to detail in a private session for you, but it is really very simple.

A: It seems to be a most [[effective]] [[motivator]] on your world if you set something in front of an [[individual]] and show them how to [[achieve]] it, they will usually go after it as long as it is within grasp. What is important to do in this [[process]] is to set the steps. Make sure that it is clearly [[understood]] what must be done in order to [[achieve]] the [[desired]] result. If, let's say for [[example]], this basketball goal is a [[desire]] of your son's, then rather than just putting it out in front of him, show him what he must do to [[achieve]] it. You can do this many ways. You can do it through an [[earned]] credit system, for one example, which I would be [[happy]] to detail in a [[private]] session for you, but it is really very [[simple]].

Each time he brings his studies home, he achieves a certain recognition. Each time he leaves his studies behind, he goes backwards. You can even take this to the point of allowing him so much time for his games. Each time he brings his materials home, he earns, for example, one-half hour of play time.

Each time he brings his studies [[home]], he [[achieves]] a certain [[recognition]]. Each time he leaves his studies behind, he goes backwards. You can even take this to the [[point]] of allowing him so much time for his [[games]]. Each time he brings his materials home, he earns, for example, one-half hour of [[play]] time.

Sometimes it is, with children, necessary to take those things away that they desire the most in order to make your point. But it is crucial, in my opinion, that you do it in a way that they can, maybe not now, but in time, understand your reason and motivation. Rather than barking at him, as you say, make him understand through feeling as well as thought, what it is you want to help him accomplish. Practice these things, think about what I have said; and as you formulate more specific questions, we will address them later. But this is not an insurmountable problem. Most important is your composure.

Sometimes it is, with [[children]], [[necessary]] to take those things away that they [[desire]] the most in order to make your point. But it is crucial, in my [[opinion]], that you do it in a way that they can, maybe not now, but in time, [[understand]] your [[reason]] and [[motivation]]. Rather than [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bark_(utterance) barking] at him, as you say, make him [[understand]] through [[feeling]] as well as [[thought]], what it is you want to help him accomplish. [[Practice]] these things, think about what I have said; and as you [[formulate]] more specific questions, we will address them later. But this is not an insurmountable [[problem]]. Most important is your [[composure]].

Q: What about it? (laughter)

Q: What about it? ([[laughter]])

Q: You mean the lack of it?

Q: You mean the lack of it?

Q: That's coming back to my original question, I guess. I get frustrated with myself. I know he must. I've kind of come to the conclusion, I've prayed about it a lot, especially lately, that really, the only thing I can do is keep working on trying to change my habits and my attitude.

Q: That's coming back to my [[original]] [[question]], I guess. I get [[frustrated]] with myself. I know he must. I've kind of come to the [[conclusion]], I've [[prayed]] about it a lot, especially lately, that really, the only thing I can do is keep working on trying to [[change]] my [[habits]] and my [[attitude]].

A: Well, I perceive that as only part of the picture. I perceive that it is necessary for you to engage your son in activity that will lead toward the desired result rather than you simply trying to make the change yourself. It will take him much longer to mature if you do not engage him in some form of responsibility/growth technique. Write or list out on paper what it is you wish to achieve. Then list those items that will help you get there. Always keep these things in front of you. I have found this to be important for humans; for at times you have good intentions, but you forget, or you relapse, and at this time period you do not do yourself any good whatsoever. If you need to make notes to remind yourself of what it is that you want to do, then do this. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this whatsoever.

A: Well, I [[perceive]] that as only part of the [[picture]]. I perceive that it is [[necessary]] for you to [[engage]] your son in [[activity]] that will lead toward the [[desired]] result rather than you simply trying to make the change yourself. It will take him much longer to [[mature]] if you do not [[engage]] him in some form of [[responsibility]]/[[growth]] [[technique]]. [[Write]] or list out on [[paper]] what it is you [[wish]] to [[achieve]]. Then list those items that will help you get there. Always keep these [[things]] in front of you. I have found this to be important for [[humans]]; for at times you have good [[intentions]], but you forget, or you relapse, and at this time period you do not do yourself any [[good]] whatsoever. If you need to make notes to remind yourself of what it is that you want to do, then do this. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this whatsoever.

Q: I'll talk to you later. Thank you.

Q: I'll talk to you later. Thank you.

Q: I'd like to comment on something that is common here which is co- worker situations. First of all, I would say that if I worked with a group of people like this, it would be easy to maintain God- consciousness throughout the day. However, we are all not so fortunate; and as we come to realize that anger, frustration, resentment, these things affect our spiritual growth, it becomes a challenge each day to deal with these people and manage our emotions to prevent those negative emotions from affecting us this way. First of all, I think through your teachings I have learned not to be as much like them as I realize I used to be. If someone was angry or verbally abusive towards me, I would gladly return the feelings. Now I try to keep from that and know that in my heart know that I'm supposed to love them and realize their immaturities. But many of you, maybe as well as me, meet up with people on a daily basis who lack any love, understanding or compassion and seem to thrive on anger and verbal abuse of others. So, as I wake each morning and promise myself I'm going to try, again, which is an everyday thing to improve myself in dealing with these things, it never fails that one of them will push me too far. I'm always, in my evening prayers, asking for forgiveness for similar situations. I don't know if this is a common thing with co- workers, but with me it is. I find much comfort in the fact that at least I realize these things now and never even thought about them before. So I think I am benefitting and I am progressing in dealing with them; but frustrations that we all speak of are very apparent and are very difficult to eliminate.

A: Do you feel that you will ever be able to [[change]] them, your co- workers?

A: Do you feel that you will ever be able to change them, your co- workers?

Q: I [[perceive]] each of them [[individually]]. Some I do, but some I don't.

A: Do you see your [[work]] situation changing? By that I mean the [[environment]] that you now encounter, do you see it ever changing if you were to remain in this job through your [[career]] here on this planet?

 

A: Do you see your work situation changing? By that I mean the environment that you now encounter, do you see it ever changing if you were to remain in this job through your career here on this planet?

Q: Probably not.

Q: Probably not.

Q: I can think of a lot of other situations I would rather be in.

Q: I can think of a lot of other situations I would rather be in.

A: Do you feel that this situation will keep you from achieving that which you really want?

A: Do you feel that this situation will keep you from [[achieving]] that which you really want?

 

A: You have enough challenges to do that throughout daily life. The point that I make is obvious. You have a decision to make each day as to where you will place yourself, in what environment will you find yourself maintaining your earthly existence? Do you tend to gravitate toward those environments that are somewhat more conducive or less conducive to your spiritual growth? I perceive all in here giving priority to their spiritual growth. Therefore, you have a difficult decision to make. I cannot make these decisions for you. You know this. Nevertheless, if you have determined, if you have felt in your heart that the job that you work will not lead toward the growth, the spiritual growth that you seek, then you must make a difficult decision. What is most important, your communion with the Father, or amassing money?

Q: In one aspect, yes; in another aspect, I also see it each day as a [[challenge]] to try to master my own [[emotions]].

Q: I don't think amassing money is important; but when you're obligated to certain debts, I think then you've made an obligation, then I think that you have to fulfill it.

A: You have enough [[challenges]] to do that throughout daily life. The [[point]] that I make is obvious. You have a [[decision]] to make each day as to where you will place yourself, in what [[environment]] will you find yourself [[maintaining]] your earthly [[existence]]? Do you tend to gravitate toward those [[environments]] that are somewhat more conducive or less conducive to your [[spiritual]] [[growth]]? I [[perceive]] all in here giving [[priority]] to their [[spiritual]] [[growth]]. Therefore, you have a [[difficult]] [[decision]] to make. I cannot make these decisions for you. You know this. Nevertheless, if you have determined, if you have felt in your [[heart]] that the job that you [[work]] will not lead toward the [[growth]], the spiritual growth that you seek, then you must make a [[difficult]] [[decision]]. What is most important, your [[communion]] with [[the Father]], or amassing [[money]]?

A: There is no question about this. But must you meet your obligations in an environment that you hate?

Q: I don't think amassing [[money]] is important; but when you're obligated to certain [[debts]], I [[think]] then you've made an obligation, then I think that you have to fulfill it.

Q: Are you suggesting that he find a different job?

A: There is no [[question]] about this. But must you meet your [[obligations]] in an [[environment]] that you [[hate]]?

A: I am suggesting that he look deeply into himself and decide what is most important, number one. Then secondly, can he fulfill what it is he seeks by maintaining existence in his current state of employment?

Q: Are you suggesting that he find a [[different]] job?

Q: There is also something to be said for finding that outlet for frustration. For instance, your suggestion to me was to write in a journal whenever I became frustrated; and that really helps me because I don't think that we can prevent frustrating situations in this life. We're always going to have frustrating situations. But the point is, is to get those feelings out as quickly as possible so that you don't stifle that spiritual growth.

A: I am suggesting that he look deeply into himself and [[decide]] what is most important, number one. Then secondly, can he [[fulfill]] what it is he seeks by [[maintaining]] [[existence]] in his current state of employment?

A: But I understand Mark's situation to seem to be more intense, that each day he begins anew, rededicating his will to the Father, and by the time he retires with his prayers, he constantly asks for forgiveness for the difficulties, that which he may have said or done, that took him away from doing the will of the Father. You must decide for yourself what it is you wish to do to maintain your existence that will hopefully lend a hand, or at least not add to, the difficulties that you encounter in trying to find and live the will of the Father each day. I have said before and will say again: you make your lives too difficult for yourselves. Learn to live more simply. That does not give you much satisfaction, does it? (laughter)

A: But I [[understand]] Mark's situation to seem to be more [[intense]], that each day he begins anew, rededicating his will to [[the Father]], and by the time he retires with his [[prayers]], he constantly asks for [[forgiveness]] for the [[difficulties]], that which he may have said or done, that took him away from doing the will of [[the Father]]. You must [[decide]] for yourself what it is you [[wish]] to do to [[maintain]] your [[existence]] that will [[hopefully]] lend a hand, or at least not add to, the [[difficulties]] that you encounter in trying to find and live the will of [[the Father]] each day. I have said before and will say again: you make your lives too [[difficult]] for yourselves. Learn to live more [[simply]]. That does not give you much [[satisfaction]], does it? ([[laughter]])

Q: I guess you realize, as I do, the situation that I'm in, but I try to focus on some positive things and that maybe I'm hopefully setting an example for some of those around me. I've even decided in my own mind that eventually I am going to quit this job, but that I seem to be more driven by my monetary responsibilities at this time, to make good on those things, before I make this choice. Are you saying that that's wrong?

Q: I guess you [[realize]], as I do, the situation that I'm in, but I try to [[focus]] on some [[positive]] things and that maybe I'm hopefully setting an example for some of those around me. I've even [[decided]] in my own [[mind]] that [[eventually]] I am going to quit this job, but that I seem to be more driven by my monetary [[responsibilities]] at this time, to make good on those things, before I make this [[choice]]. Are you saying that that's wrong?

A: No, I am saying that you must decide what is right for yourself. There is no one in this room, that if you had to, you could change your situation. I understand the need to maintain your existence, yet you do not necessarily have to maintain the existence, materially speaking, at the level that you do. You must decide what is most important to you at any given point in your life. If knowing and living the will of the Father is the most important, then do what you must do in order to maintain your existence and be comfortable; but do not do it to the or at the expense of your spiritual growth. You tend to get locked into this "Well I must maintain my material existence because I have all these obligations, when in fact, as I suggest, you can find ways to circumvent this, to reduce your obligations and then continue your journey. However, if you have decided that the challenges that are presented to you at your job are stimulating and will actually help your spiritual growth, then accept that. Do not allow others to cause an emotional reaction within yourself. If you accept your position within a given job, then what I suggest to you is each day, in the morning as you get ready for work, continue to say to yourself, "I consciously accept the responsibility of my decision and when one contests me in any way whatsoever, I will look at that individual as a brother or sister, one who is not God-conscious the way I wish to be, and I will not allow their negative energy to override my positive energy. I will maintain a state of mind beyond that which they are capable of. I am not saying here that you are any better than they are as far as our Father is concerned. But what I am saying is that you have more knowledge than they do, and therefore you should use it to your advantage, not to take advantage of them, but simply to maintain yourself. Do you understand this?

A: No, I am saying that you must [[decide]] what is right for yourself. There is no one in this room, that if you had to, you could [[change]] your situation. I [[understand]] the need to maintain your [[existence]], yet you do not necessarily have to [[maintain]] the existence, materially speaking, at the level that you do. You must [[decide]] what is most important to you at any given [[point]] in your life. If knowing and living the will of [[the Father]] is the most important, then do what you must do in order to [[maintain]] your [[existence]] and be [[comfortable]]; but do not do it to the or at the expense of your [[spiritual]] [[growth]]. You tend to get locked into this "Well I must maintain my material [[existence]] because I have all these [[obligations]], when in [[fact]], as I suggest, you can find ways to [[circumvent]] this, to reduce your obligations and then continue your [[journey]]. However, if you have [[decided]] that the [[challenges]] that are presented to you at your job are [[stimulating]] and will actually help your spiritual [[growth]], then [[accept]] that. Do not allow others to cause an [[emotional]] [[reaction]] within yourself. If you [[accept]] your position within a given job, then what I suggest to you is each day, in the [[morning]] as you get ready for work, continue to say to yourself, "I consciously [[accept]] the [[responsibility]] of my [[decision]] and when one contests me in any way whatsoever, I will look at that [[individual]] as a brother or sister, one who is not [[God-conscious]] the way I [[wish]] to be, and I will not allow their [[negative]] [[energy]] to override my [[positive]] energy. I will maintain a [[state]] of [[mind]] beyond that which they are capable of. I am not saying here that you are any better than they are as far as [[our Father]] is concerned. But what I am saying is that you have more [[knowledge]] than they do, and therefore you should use it to your [[advantage]], not to take advantage of them, but simply to [[maintain]] yourself. Do you [[understand]] this?

Q: Yes.

Q: Yes.