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WILL: The [[love]] of [[God]] [[surrounds]] us. The [[power]] of God enfolds us. The [[thought]] of God supports us. Wherever we gather, He is. Good evening. I'm your [[teacher]], Will, who loves you.

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It is good to see that we have [[visitors]] from another [[group]]. This kind of interchange should be [[encouraged]]. All of you learn things from [[personal]] [[interaction]]. You well know this - it is the [[essence]] of the teaching. How much more so that the groups should [[communicate]] in the same fashion rather than through the exchange of the [~~http~~://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printing printed] [[word]].

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It is good to see that we have [[visitors]] from another [[group]]. This kind of interchange should be [[encouraged]]. All of you learn things from [[personal]] [[interaction]]. You well know this - it is the [[essence]] of the teaching. How much more so that the groups should [[communicate]] in the same fashion rather than through the exchange of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printing printed] [[word]].

===='''''[[Listening]]'''''====

I would like to continue tonight on the theme of [[listening]]. Before we begin I would like to apologize for the [[statement]] I made weeks ago regarding the erroneous report of imminent [[materialization]] of the [[celestial]] [[personalities]]. We used an Eric [[expression]], as I recall - "It was a fun ride while it lasted". I apologize because certain members of the group found this [[expression]] insulting. It was not intended that way. I was merely commenting on the exhilarating [[effect]] that even [[error]] has on humans. It was a pleasant [[thought]], was it not? But error nonetheless. It was not my [[intention]] to slight anyone. Remote from the physical ministry that follows in the [[wake]] of the [[divine]] [[plan]] it is natural that you should be [[stimulated]] by the prospect of other [[developments]]. I, too, am not [[immune]] from the exhilaration attendant on these kinds of circumstances. By my remark I meant only to say that I can identify with your situation to the extent of the [[exhilaration]]. I am not [[immune]] from it. I have long been a [[human]]. [[Error]] is an inescapable part of life as a [[human being]]. But we are all trying to better ourselves. We have a great deal of [[assistance]]. I meant no harm by my remark. Let us proceed then.

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Each of you has been alerted to situations and [[opportunities]] to actually [[listen]] rather than to pronounce your own [[opinions]] in [[conversations]] and meetings with your earthly [[brothers and sisters]] over this past week and that is [[good]] to see. Though you may oftentimes feel that it is [[necessary]] to stifle your own [[opinions]] when you feel such a circumstance has arisen, we call also upon you to exert your [[judgment]]. You should not allow the [[listening]] [[exercise]] to so take up your [[thoughts]] as to deny your companions in [[conversation]] and life [[experience]] the benefit of your own [[spiritual]] [[insights]]. We suggest that the wisest course for you to follow is to do as we suggested months ago and attempt to turn the [[focus]] of the conversation to matters of [[spiritual advancement]]. This [[listening]] exercise is an adjunct to the work that has gone before and it is not a wholly [[secular]] exercise. All of our previous instructions and suggestions are as valid today as they were in the [[past]] and more so. I simply point out that by [[listening]] and restraining your own [[ego]] based [[commentaries]] you are turning an encounter into an [[opportunity]]. We remain convinced if you allow your [[Thought Adjuster]] to make direct contact with your conversant's Thought Adjuster then something special will happen. I suggest to you that this [[event]] is [[worthy]] of [[observation]]. Your ability to [[concentrate]] your [[attention]] on the encounter itself and minimize the extraneous [[thoughts]] that arise with egoistic need as their source you will better to be able to [[discern]] contact between [[Adjusters]]. Regrettably, this is a rare species of [[event]] on your planet, although not unknown.

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By marshalling your [[resources]] we think the [[Heavenly Father]] will arrange for you to keenly [[observe]] Him as He [[reveals]] Himself by His favorite [[method]]. We [[think]] that you all [[realize]] what an unusual occasion this will be. We think you will like the result. We think you will [[enjoy]] the [[experience]]. We are [[confident]] that you will learn a great deal each time this occurs. Therefore we suggest that you rule yourselves as it says in the [[Urantia Book]]. He who can rule his own [[self]] is greater than he who takes a [[city]].[~~http~~://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Book_of_Proverbs#Proverb_.16] [[Prepare]] yourselves to see something momentous. By and by pursuing this [[course]] you will notice you have entered upon a new life. A life of the [[love]] of [[the Father]] made [[flesh]] in the life of His [[Creator Son|son]] known among your people as [[Jesus]] of [[Nazareth]]. So do not become [~~http~~://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myopia myopic] about this [[exercise]]. Use good [[judgment]]. That's what we've been working toward. You will make your mistakes. That is an inescapable aspect of life on a [[material]] [[planet]]. We are with you. Do not trouble yourselves overly about any possible damage that you might cause to your conversant by making [[errors]] of ineptitude. As we have [[repeatedly]] commented, [[progress]] is the way. Therefore go forth [[boldly]] and [[listen]] and apply what you have learned. If you listen closely you will find that you are always [[learning]] from every [[source]]. That is all I have to say. Now, as our last item, it has been some time since the [[opportunity]] was offered for questions. This floor is open now for [[questions]].

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By marshalling your [[resources]] we think the [[Heavenly Father]] will arrange for you to keenly [[observe]] Him as He [[reveals]] Himself by His favorite [[method]]. We [[think]] that you all [[realize]] what an unusual occasion this will be. We think you will like the result. We think you will [[enjoy]] the [[experience]]. We are [[confident]] that you will learn a great deal each time this occurs. Therefore we suggest that you rule yourselves as it says in the [[Urantia Book]]. He who can rule his own [[self]] is greater than he who takes a [[city]].[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Book_of_Proverbs#Proverb_.16] [[Prepare]] yourselves to see something momentous. By and by pursuing this [[course]] you will notice you have entered upon a new life. A life of the [[love]] of [[the Father]] made [[flesh]] in the life of His [[Creator Son|son]] known among your people as [[Jesus]] of [[Nazareth]]. So do not become [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myopia myopic] about this [[exercise]]. Use good [[judgment]]. That's what we've been working toward. You will make your mistakes. That is an inescapable aspect of life on a [[material]] [[planet]]. We are with you. Do not trouble yourselves overly about any possible damage that you might cause to your conversant by making [[errors]] of ineptitude. As we have [[repeatedly]] commented, [[progress]] is the way. Therefore go forth [[boldly]] and [[listen]] and apply what you have learned. If you listen closely you will find that you are always [[learning]] from every [[source]]. That is all I have to say. Now, as our last item, it has been some time since the [[opportunity]] was offered for questions. This floor is open now for [[questions]].

===Dialogue===

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WILL: We think at this point that this is a novel and original approach of [[Thought Adjuster]] identification. So far as we portend, no [[problems]] are foreseen. If you find it useful, we [[encourage]] you to inhabit this notion. We will say that the only [[problem]] that we foresee is the [[interpretation]] under the [[modern]] standards of [[psychological]] and psychiatric [[personality]] divisions. That does not invalidate this as a [[technique]]. It is impossible for this movement from going forward without taking some arrows. Many of them will hurt, badly. There is nothing for it but to take it up with [[the Father]]. We [[encourage]] you to pursue this saying only that it is possible that this [[technique]] is easily misinterpreted by your fellow [[secular]] [[academics]]. Is that [[satisfactory]]?

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JUDY: Yes. I have one other [[question]]. Many of us have been going to hear Reverend Holmes on Wednesday at noon at [~~http~~://betheltally.org/ Bethel Missionary Baptist Church]. I'm sure you have been there on occasions. The [[message]] rings true as being a [[personal religion]] and yet there are some times where there are [[references]] to the [[devil]], et cetera. It is easy to invite people to that, I [[suppose]] because it is novel. Is there anything that we should watch out for or could you comment on the [[service]] and the [[orientation]].

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JUDY: Yes. I have one other [[question]]. Many of us have been going to hear Reverend Holmes on Wednesday at noon at [https://betheltally.org/ Bethel Missionary Baptist Church]. I'm sure you have been there on occasions. The [[message]] rings true as being a [[personal religion]] and yet there are some times where there are [[references]] to the [[devil]], et cetera. It is easy to invite people to that, I [[suppose]] because it is novel. Is there anything that we should watch out for or could you comment on the [[service]] and the [[orientation]].

WILL: So far as we have [[observed]] he is a [[sincere]] and spirit led [[seeker]] who is skilled in sharing his developing daily [[perceptions]] and [[spiritual growth]] patterns with those willing to [[listen]] to his [[words]]. I have no [[criticisms]] of him. We [[embrace]] him. Another?

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VINCENT: Will, this is Vincent. I'm glad you're taking [[questions]] again. We always like to put you on the line every now and then. Recently we heard from Connie Lester who told us about an [[experience]] she had going to the [[sea of glass]] for a [[conclave]] with [[Gabriel]]. Do you know anything about this particular [[conclave]] or can you give us any [[verification]] of this [[experience]]?

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WILL: I am loathe to comment on reports of [[events]] such as this. Here is the reason why. This [[type]] of [[experience]] is akin to the [[reality]] captured in a [[photograph]]. Two key components to photographic [[record]] are [[perspective]] and capture of a [[moment]] in [[time]]. What is valid at that moment may be more so or less so sometime down [[stream]]. I realize that this may not be [[satisfactory]] as an answer. We all [[hope]] that you will see. [[The Father]] is building a wall; His great wall, fit for many to [[travel]] upon. His laborers are incapable of sustaining their [[attention]] for very long. Some become [[enthusiastic]], work [[alone]] or in [[concert]], will apply themselves [[diligently]] far outstripping their [[brothers and sisters]]. You would use the [[ironic]] [[expression]] - "tear it up". Ten paces later, no [[foundation]] is laid. [[The Father]] takes [[advantage]] of whatever [~~http~~://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masonry masons] are at hand, wherever they happen to be. Your [[friend]] who [[visited]] the [[sea of glass]] is one such [[artisan]]. She is no more [[responsible]] than you are for the [[validity]] or [[meaning]] of her [[experience]]. It is just an experience meant for her. I can add little to it and, in general, by my comments would only take away from it. I [[hope]] that answers. I am fond of you and the type of questions that you ask. It is not easy to answer. ([[laughter]])

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WILL: I am loathe to comment on reports of [[events]] such as this. Here is the reason why. This [[type]] of [[experience]] is akin to the [[reality]] captured in a [[photograph]]. Two key components to photographic [[record]] are [[perspective]] and capture of a [[moment]] in [[time]]. What is valid at that moment may be more so or less so sometime down [[stream]]. I realize that this may not be [[satisfactory]] as an answer. We all [[hope]] that you will see. [[The Father]] is building a wall; His great wall, fit for many to [[travel]] upon. His laborers are incapable of sustaining their [[attention]] for very long. Some become [[enthusiastic]], work [[alone]] or in [[concert]], will apply themselves [[diligently]] far outstripping their [[brothers and sisters]]. You would use the [[ironic]] [[expression]] - "tear it up". Ten paces later, no [[foundation]] is laid. [[The Father]] takes [[advantage]] of whatever [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masonry masons] are at hand, wherever they happen to be. Your [[friend]] who [[visited]] the [[sea of glass]] is one such [[artisan]]. She is no more [[responsible]] than you are for the [[validity]] or [[meaning]] of her [[experience]]. It is just an experience meant for her. I can add little to it and, in general, by my comments would only take away from it. I [[hope]] that answers. I am fond of you and the type of questions that you ask. It is not easy to answer. ([[laughter]])

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VINCENT: O.K. Here's another one. We have had some [[dispute]] about this [[materialization]] thing and, while I am the first one to say not to make [[predictions]] because of the [[effect]] of them, we have had a series of [[communications]]. The initial one seemed to indicate the [[materializations]] were imminent. Later the [[Woods Cross TeaM|Utah papers]] had indicated [[Abraham]] said that this was some time in the [[future]] but did not discount the [[fact]] that it would happen sometime. Tonight you apologized for a comment you had made which was somewhat [[offensive]] to some of us who had only heard your [[words]] about it. So I'd like you to gather together the [[opinions]] of these [[teachers]] and all of the others and tell us, without making [[predictions]], do we still have a valid [[communication]] that the [[materializations]] will happen? In the [[Woods Cross TeaM|Utah papers]] they said it would happen within Joshua's lifetime or whatever. I guess the [[question]] is, first of all is this still a valid item of the [[plan]] and, if it is, then is this something we should not [[worry]] about or is it imminent?

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JUDY: Will, this is Judy, again. We began the [[meditation]] in our evening meeting to, as Joan calls it, "jump-start" some of those people that might have the [[ability]] to [[communicate]] with [[celestials]]. Is this still a productive time? I think that most people [[enjoy]] it but we don't quite know what to [[expect]] out of the time. Could you give us a little [[guidance]] on that?

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WILL: You can do no damage to yourselves from the [[stillness]] [[practice]], whether regular or intermittent. From our [[perspective]], we find that the practice as presently [[perceived]] by your group is marvelously [[attuning]]. To seek more is to seek [~~http~~://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=145:5_Early_Sunday_Morning signs or works (145:5.6)]. We find that your short [[practice]] as tonight has the beneficial [[effect]] of [[concentrating]] your [[minds]]. Stilling your [[egoistic]] selves and opening yourselves as a receptacle to the [[Heavenly Father]]'s [[influence]]. We'll use a human [[expression]]: "[[~~http~~://www.metrolyrics.com/you-cant-hurry-love-lyrics-human-nature.html you can't hurry nature]". [[Changes]] are taking place. No [[person]] here is walking backward. No person is standing still. [[The Father]] stands beyond, beckoning. Our job is to guide you through a road so [[happy]] you will feel it in your feet. So I can not say that the early meeting [[stillness]] practice is unproductive or that nothing is taking place. Our view is that willing workers have reported for [[duty]] at the wall. Next.

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WILL: You can do no damage to yourselves from the [[stillness]] [[practice]], whether regular or intermittent. From our [[perspective]], we find that the practice as presently [[perceived]] by your group is marvelously [[attuning]]. To seek more is to seek [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=145:5_Early_Sunday_Morning signs or works (145:5.6)]. We find that your short [[practice]] as tonight has the beneficial [[effect]] of [[concentrating]] your [[minds]]. Stilling your [[egoistic]] selves and opening yourselves as a receptacle to the [[Heavenly Father]]'s [[influence]]. We'll use a human [[expression]]: "[[https://www.metrolyrics.com/you-cant-hurry-love-lyrics-human-nature.html you can't hurry nature]". [[Changes]] are taking place. No [[person]] here is walking backward. No person is standing still. [[The Father]] stands beyond, beckoning. Our job is to guide you through a road so [[happy]] you will feel it in your feet. So I can not say that the early meeting [[stillness]] practice is unproductive or that nothing is taking place. Our view is that willing workers have reported for [[duty]] at the wall. Next.

BENJAMIN: Will, this is Benjamin. Is tonight an appropriate time to ask for more [[spirit]] [[names]]? Eric's favorite task.

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KATHY: I have a question about Eric [[reading]] this newspaper article tonight. While we all identified with it and laughed about it, the [[communication]] between [[male]] and [[female]] - I guess my question is - is this an [[inevitable]] part of it or is there a real need for [[growth]] in [[communication]] between the sexes?

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WILL: This [[question]] troubled me greatly while I lived my [[material]] life. I often felt [[frustrated]] at the apparently complete [[failure]] of [[communication]] between my [[husband]] and myself on matters which I felt of great import and which he seemingly felt were [[trivial]]. I think that for your [[purposes]], this situation is best described by the section on [[Morontia mota]] in the [[Urantia Book]] which states, if I recall correctly, that [[mediocrity]] seeks to preserve itself in standardization. Your people are only a few thousand years from [[hunting]] their sustenance from the [[forests]] and [[plains]] or digging for their supper with a sharpened stick. In less fortunate times, from subsisting from what is found dead upon the ground. Even today, more people than can be counted by you live at such a [[standard]]. It is not yet time on your [[planet]] to change the age old [[relationship]] between the man who looks out and the woman who looks inward. Much time will be consumed before these [[orientations]] fade into historic [~~http~~://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdote anecdotes]. Strong [[socialization]] programs will go far towards eradicating some of the more [[fundamental]] [[differences]] between [[males]] and [[females]] on your planet with nearly all of the world and even most of your own [[society]] is not ready. Besides, when I surveyed the [[male]] members of your group, I see that they don't know what we are talking about. (uproarious [[laughter]]) [~~http~~://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=84:6_The_Partnership_of_Man_and_Woman See 84:6.7]

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WILL: This [[question]] troubled me greatly while I lived my [[material]] life. I often felt [[frustrated]] at the apparently complete [[failure]] of [[communication]] between my [[husband]] and myself on matters which I felt of great import and which he seemingly felt were [[trivial]]. I think that for your [[purposes]], this situation is best described by the section on [[Morontia mota]] in the [[Urantia Book]] which states, if I recall correctly, that [[mediocrity]] seeks to preserve itself in standardization. Your people are only a few thousand years from [[hunting]] their sustenance from the [[forests]] and [[plains]] or digging for their supper with a sharpened stick. In less fortunate times, from subsisting from what is found dead upon the ground. Even today, more people than can be counted by you live at such a [[standard]]. It is not yet time on your [[planet]] to change the age old [[relationship]] between the man who looks out and the woman who looks inward. Much time will be consumed before these [[orientations]] fade into historic [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdote anecdotes]. Strong [[socialization]] programs will go far towards eradicating some of the more [[fundamental]] [[differences]] between [[males]] and [[females]] on your planet with nearly all of the world and even most of your own [[society]] is not ready. Besides, when I surveyed the [[male]] members of your group, I see that they don't know what we are talking about. (uproarious [[laughter]]) [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=84:6_The_Partnership_of_Man_and_Woman See 84:6.7]

KATHY: I guess that is the second half of my [[question]], do you have any specific [[advice]] for our [[group]] as opposed to the [[nation]] at large?

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We think that these are [[good]] and instructive [[analogies]] but we also [[realize]] that with your growing [[awareness]] and ability, it is [[necessary]] for us from time to time to have more to say about your prospective roles in the implementation of the [[plan]]. That plan which is not completely known to us. You will not [[change]] the world yet you will cause the world to [[change]]. There is no specific [[act]] or deed which will be asked of you that will cause the [[earth]] to turn in a new direction yet your deeds singly and in total will be the [[mechanisms]] by which we avert this world from its present [[course]] and redirect it into the ages of [[light and life]]. The deeds which you [[perform]] in [[the Master]]'s name will be of the same [[quality]] and caliber as those performed by the Master in his life among the people. It will be your [[personal]] [[interaction]], your ability to reach upward and outward to [[the Father]]'s teachings and, by so doing, to lift your [[companions]] in the same directions that will be the deeds worthy of [[Record|note]] in [[heaven]]. That was the [[essence]], the [[acts]] of [[Jesus]] of [[Nazareth]], to reveal his Father's [[love]] to each [[creature]] whom he encountered as he went about his daily business.

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How then will you know when it is time to [[act]], you might think. After [[his betrayal]], but before [[his trial]], [[the Master]] spoke to [[Peter, the Apostle|Peter]], his [~~http~~://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mercurial mercurial] follower, and said," Before the cock crows, you will deny me three times". Now we say to you that before we meet again gathered like this, each of you will encounter three whose lives you will [[touch]] for better or for worse.

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How then will you know when it is time to [[act]], you might think. After [[his betrayal]], but before [[his trial]], [[the Master]] spoke to [[Peter, the Apostle|Peter]], his [https://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mercurial mercurial] follower, and said," Before the cock crows, you will deny me three times". Now we say to you that before we meet again gathered like this, each of you will encounter three whose lives you will [[touch]] for better or for worse.

You are gathering [[experience]] now and you are [[learning]]. We think that you are each able to clearly [[discern]] now when such an [[opportunity]] is [[developing]]. This has been the thrust of our [[discussion]], our instruction, until now. Therefore when you alert yourselves to such an impending opportunity, use that opportunity to [[demonstrate]] to [[Michael]] as if he were standing by your side, that you [[understand]] the full import of his teachings and are capable of [[acting]] upon that understanding, and that you are [[prepared]] to act as a [[conduit]] for [[divine]] [[love]] to [[flow]] freely and unimpeded from the [[Heavenly Father]] to your [[companions]] and that you do so without minimizing this [[transaction]] in any way. You will [[change]] and the world will change as a [[necessary]] result. It is like dropping a stone into a calm pool and the ripples run out. You will get better and better at these kinds of encounters. It is the kind of situation that builds upon its own [[success]]. We know that you will [[enjoy]] even the most [[modest]] success.

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JUDY: Good evening Will, this is Judy. When you [[talk]] about having [[eternity]] to [[change]] the world, that is very [[comforting]], but we view [[political]] [[events]] and things that are happening with the [[ecology]] and [[crime]], etc., it makes us feel like we would like a quicker answer. Can you comment on how we should view the [[events]] that are happening on our [[planet]] that seem disturbing?

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WILL: The [[history]] of human [[action]] on your planet has largely been [[ecological]] [[devastation]]. However, until recently, such [[physical]] devastation was within tolerable bounds because the human [[population]] [[pressure]] was low enough that the people could move off the devastated areas which were then allowed to recover. Humans have greatly [[modified]] the face of the [[earth]]; not always for ill. But the present obviously non-sustainable destruction of the [[natural]] [[environment]] is chiefly attributable to [[avarice]] and [[ignorance]]. The avarice springs largely from the [[activities]] of the wealthier materially advanced cultures and their insatiable [[lust]] for [[profits]] which causes them to plunder the [[natural]] world. They have not learned to [[control]] their [[greed]] and [[ignorance]] is apparently [[shared]] by all humans. The worst [[effect]] is the impending [[crisis]] of over[[population]]. There are simply too many [[human being]]s alive on your [[planet]]. Your planet cannot sustain these people. Your [[societies]] cannot sustain these people. The most skillful [[governments]] on your planet seek only to [[exploit]] these unfortunate masses of people. The only help for it is to speak [[truth]]. The only [[hope]] for it is to speak out in every venue and not only among like- minded fellows. The [[combination]] of [[greed]] and [[overpopulation]] has the [[potential]] for turning this planet into a cauldron. The [~~http~~://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_hemisphere Northern hemisphere]'s societies in particular have failed to properly invest the [[profits]] of their [~~http~~://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plunder plunder]. They have attempted to restructure their [[environment]] by considering only the [[human]] environment.

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WILL: The [[history]] of human [[action]] on your planet has largely been [[ecological]] [[devastation]]. However, until recently, such [[physical]] devastation was within tolerable bounds because the human [[population]] [[pressure]] was low enough that the people could move off the devastated areas which were then allowed to recover. Humans have greatly [[modified]] the face of the [[earth]]; not always for ill. But the present obviously non-sustainable destruction of the [[natural]] [[environment]] is chiefly attributable to [[avarice]] and [[ignorance]]. The avarice springs largely from the [[activities]] of the wealthier materially advanced cultures and their insatiable [[lust]] for [[profits]] which causes them to plunder the [[natural]] world. They have not learned to [[control]] their [[greed]] and [[ignorance]] is apparently [[shared]] by all humans. The worst [[effect]] is the impending [[crisis]] of over[[population]]. There are simply too many [[human being]]s alive on your [[planet]]. Your planet cannot sustain these people. Your [[societies]] cannot sustain these people. The most skillful [[governments]] on your planet seek only to [[exploit]] these unfortunate masses of people. The only help for it is to speak [[truth]]. The only [[hope]] for it is to speak out in every venue and not only among like- minded fellows. The [[combination]] of [[greed]] and [[overpopulation]] has the [[potential]] for turning this planet into a cauldron. The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_hemisphere Northern hemisphere]'s societies in particular have failed to properly invest the [[profits]] of their [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plunder plunder]. They have attempted to restructure their [[environment]] by considering only the [[human]] environment.

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Tremendous [[progress]] has been made in the [[scientific]] [[understanding]] of [[human]] [[nature]]. Yet this [[secular]] [[knowledge]] has had little benefit to the common people. Their [[material]] lives have been made easier, but their [[spirit]] lives are as empty as those of their [[animal]] [[brothers and sisters]]. They know not where they came from nor where they are going. It is left to you to solve these [[problems]]. We think that we can say that these problems will not be dealt with by the present [[leadership]]. That is as far as I am allowed to say on [[political]] grounds. I think it is clear that [~~http~~://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_government your government] functions well where [[model]] programs have proven effective and those model programs are the basis for extrapolation and extension to the larger [[society]]. It would be useful to establish [[ecologically]] sound, rationally sustainable programs in your immediate area. We [[believe]] that some incentive exists already in your immediate [[neighborhood]] considering the recent reaction to the power generation in your city [Coal energy generation was voted down recently in Tallahassee - editor's note]. Perhaps a modest step forward could be made. This is a [[society]]-wide problem and it is [[difficult]] for individuals by isolated acts to greatly [[influence]] the [[thinking]] of corporations. They have largely shifted their [[responsibilities]] off on to the [[isolated]] [[individuals]]. They do not see that their [[choices]] have [[consequences]]. Their present mind set is that once the purchase takes place, they are absolved of [[responsibility]]. We do not think it is out of bonds to instruct them. Their present [[rhetoric]] is to encourage [[public]] [[participation]] and comment, so we [[encourage]] you to speak directly with your elected [[representatives]] and [[candidates]] for office and corporate vendors and planners. Tell them forthrightly what you think and why you think it. Another question?

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Tremendous [[progress]] has been made in the [[scientific]] [[understanding]] of [[human]] [[nature]]. Yet this [[secular]] [[knowledge]] has had little benefit to the common people. Their [[material]] lives have been made easier, but their [[spirit]] lives are as empty as those of their [[animal]] [[brothers and sisters]]. They know not where they came from nor where they are going. It is left to you to solve these [[problems]]. We think that we can say that these problems will not be dealt with by the present [[leadership]]. That is as far as I am allowed to say on [[political]] grounds. I think it is clear that [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_government your government] functions well where [[model]] programs have proven effective and those model programs are the basis for extrapolation and extension to the larger [[society]]. It would be useful to establish [[ecologically]] sound, rationally sustainable programs in your immediate area. We [[believe]] that some incentive exists already in your immediate [[neighborhood]] considering the recent reaction to the power generation in your city [Coal energy generation was voted down recently in Tallahassee - editor's note]. Perhaps a modest step forward could be made. This is a [[society]]-wide problem and it is [[difficult]] for individuals by isolated acts to greatly [[influence]] the [[thinking]] of corporations. They have largely shifted their [[responsibilities]] off on to the [[isolated]] [[individuals]]. They do not see that their [[choices]] have [[consequences]]. Their present mind set is that once the purchase takes place, they are absolved of [[responsibility]]. We do not think it is out of bonds to instruct them. Their present [[rhetoric]] is to encourage [[public]] [[participation]] and comment, so we [[encourage]] you to speak directly with your elected [[representatives]] and [[candidates]] for office and corporate vendors and planners. Tell them forthrightly what you think and why you think it. Another question?

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VINCENT: I do have a question, Will. You heard about the [[discussion]] of closed societies and how other [[religious]] [[beliefs]] are not being [[permitted]] and you have also indicated that single isolated acts cannot necessarily [[influence]] large corporations and so I am wondering if [[individual]] isolated acts, like we are going about doing and meeting the three people and trying to [[influence]] people one at a time, is going to be successful in areas where we could be prosecuted for even suggesting other possibilities. I am just wondering how that fits into the plan?

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WILL: I will deal with the second half of your question first, if that is all right. Perhaps I was not specific enough. By [[individual]] acts, I had in mind purchase [[transactions]] where no personal [[interaction]] was accounted. We think that the most effective tool available to humans is [[personal]] interaction. We believe that that is so. It is all that we stand for. Now the first part regarding closed societies, or those with [~~http~~://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_church state religions]; we say this: it will not [[work]]. It is not [[necessary]] to overthrow any [[religion]] in order to bring people to the light of the [[Heavenly Father]]. Certainly enough common ground exists between all the world's credible [[religions]] for brotherhood to flourish. The straight jackets of all of the [[organized]] [[religions]] will fall away in time and the [[personal religion]] of [[Jesus]] of [[Nazareth]] will flourish and this [[earth]] will become a [[garden]]. Does that answer?

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WILL: I will deal with the second half of your question first, if that is all right. Perhaps I was not specific enough. By [[individual]] acts, I had in mind purchase [[transactions]] where no personal [[interaction]] was accounted. We think that the most effective tool available to humans is [[personal]] interaction. We believe that that is so. It is all that we stand for. Now the first part regarding closed societies, or those with [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_church state religions]; we say this: it will not [[work]]. It is not [[necessary]] to overthrow any [[religion]] in order to bring people to the light of the [[Heavenly Father]]. Certainly enough common ground exists between all the world's credible [[religions]] for brotherhood to flourish. The straight jackets of all of the [[organized]] [[religions]] will fall away in time and the [[personal religion]] of [[Jesus]] of [[Nazareth]] will flourish and this [[earth]] will become a [[garden]]. Does that answer?

VINCENT: Yes, thank you.

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WILL: There are no gaps in the [[Heavenly Father]]'s plan. No [[soul]] is neglected. It is true that this is a hard world. For many, this life is [[cruel]]. [[Circumstances]] of their lives are punishing. Its [[joys]] abound; not only the philosophers but the common people are aware of this. All roads lead to [[the Father]]. It is not [[necessary]] that people should walk any specific [[path]]. It is necessary they should move forward. It is all that is required. The rest is in the Father's hands. His defenses have depth of field. It is not possible to slip past his [[attention]].

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PAT: In the [[Bible]] and, I believe, in the [[Urantia Book]] - I am almost sure that it is in the Urantia Book - that [[Jesus]] said that the only way to [[heaven]] was through him and that you must be [~~http~~://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_again_(Christianity) born again]. I can [[understand]] that this means to be reborn [[spiritually]], but, number one, I would like to know again what about these people? Is this a true [[statement]]? How does one become born again spiritually, if one is willing, how does one do this?

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PAT: In the [[Bible]] and, I believe, in the [[Urantia Book]] - I am almost sure that it is in the Urantia Book - that [[Jesus]] said that the only way to [[heaven]] was through him and that you must be [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_again_(Christianity) born again]. I can [[understand]] that this means to be reborn [[spiritually]], but, number one, I would like to know again what about these people? Is this a true [[statement]]? How does one become born again spiritually, if one is willing, how does one do this?

WILL: [[The Master]] was absolutely right when He spoke those [[words]]. He is the gate. Yet these words have been used, [[misinterpreted]] and used to punish those whose circumstances have placed them in situations where they were not [[exposed]] to the essential teachings of [[Jesus]] of Nazareth. He spoke [[truth]] when he made that [[statement]]. He is the gate. It is [[necessary]] that all who will know [[the Father]] must first know him. He referred not to his life as [[human]] life, as the man [[Jesus]], but as his role as a [[Creator Son]], organizer and upholder of this [[local universe]]. Until each person knows him [[intimately]] and perfectly, there is no point for them to [[proceed]] further towards [[the Father]] for they will have exceeded their [[knowledge]] and [[understanding]]. The [[problem]] of misinterpretation arises due to deficiency of scope for as all threads of the scheme are gathered [[together]], so must all those paths tried by all the people in all [[the planets]] in this [[local universe]] converge upon the [[Creator Son|Creator's Son]] before being gathered yet again at another level above. So when [[the Master]] said, we all must pass through him, its [[meaning]] is somewhat [[ambiguous]], but couched in the [[language]] intentionally designed to apply to all people on this [[planet]] and within this [[local universe]]. Therefore, it was somewhat circumspect.

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PAT: Is the [[Creator Son]] one of the members of the [[trinity]]?

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WILL: That is easy. The answer is contained in the [[Urantia Book]]. No. The [[Creator Sons]] are not [[personalities]] of the [[paradise trinity]]. [[Creator Sons]] come into being through a [[mechanism]] which is not completely [[understood]] by any [[creature]] of my order or even of my counselor's order, although he is a teacher. The [[Creator Sons]], to paraphrase the [[Urantia Book]], [~~http~~://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_21#21:1._ORIGIN_AND_NATURE_OF_CREATOR_SONS spring from] the conjoint meetings of [[minds]] of the [[Paradise Father]] and the [[Eternal Son]]. When their minds meet in a certain way, a [[Creator Son]] is the [[inevitable]] result of that meeting of minds. It is the signal to [[creation]] that a new area is to be [[organized]] to the greater [[glory]] of [[God]]. Does that answer?

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WILL: That is easy. The answer is contained in the [[Urantia Book]]. No. The [[Creator Sons]] are not [[personalities]] of the [[paradise trinity]]. [[Creator Sons]] come into being through a [[mechanism]] which is not completely [[understood]] by any [[creature]] of my order or even of my counselor's order, although he is a teacher. The [[Creator Sons]], to paraphrase the [[Urantia Book]], [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_21#21:1._ORIGIN_AND_NATURE_OF_CREATOR_SONS spring from] the conjoint meetings of [[minds]] of the [[Paradise Father]] and the [[Eternal Son]]. When their minds meet in a certain way, a [[Creator Son]] is the [[inevitable]] result of that meeting of minds. It is the signal to [[creation]] that a new area is to be [[organized]] to the greater [[glory]] of [[God]]. Does that answer?

PAT: I think so, but I hate to be [[difficult]] about this part, but I am really trying to [[understand]] this better. [[Christ]] [[Michael]] was the Creator's Son. He is the gate to [[the Father]]. There are other [[Creator Sons]]. Are they also gates to the Father? And what of people who only [[believe]] in [[one God]], no other [[spiritual]] [[beings]], are they then to have a way to gain [[access]] to heaven?

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WILL: The [[Creator Son|Creator's Son]] holds the reins in the [[local universe]]. It is he who took the disorganized [[matter]] and [[organized]] it. It is he who caused the dust to swirl in such a way that [[planets]] and [[moons]] and [[stars]] were formed. He does not perform these deeds in his own name. He performs these deeds in the [[service]] of [[the Father]]. It is what he was [[born]] to do. His life and his deeds are in service to [[the Father]]. There is great variety among the [[Creator Son|Creator's Sons]]. They are many. I will not attempt to impress numbers. They are easily discoverable in [[Urantia Book|the Book]]; not to diminish the validity of such pursuit but great [[variety]] exists among the Creator's Sons. Each one is [[unique]]. Each one contains certain [[aspects]] of [[the Father]] just as each person on this planet is [[different]]. You know that even among [~~http~~://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identical_twins#Monozygotic_.28.22identical.22.29_twins identical twins], there is no such thing as [[perfect]] [[identity]]. How much more so for a [[creature]] that is as [[powerful]] and as grand as a [[Creator Son]]. Their [[methods]] of achieving their [~~http~~://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_21#21:3._LOCAL_UNIVERSE_SOVEREIGNTY full bestowal powers], their full [[sovereignty]] are as varied as their [[personalities]]. We think that you are fortunate to have this [[Michael]] as your [[Creator Son]]. A most [[difficult]] [[bestowal]] for the [[Creator Sons]] is [~~http~~://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_119#119:7._THE_SEVENTH_AND_FINAL_BESTOWAL as a material creature of the realm]. It is a requirement of their office that they live a [[creature]] [[existence]] first hand so to [[experience]] [[Paper 119 - The Bestowals of Christ Michael|those creatures]] extant within their realm.

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WILL: The [[Creator Son|Creator's Son]] holds the reins in the [[local universe]]. It is he who took the disorganized [[matter]] and [[organized]] it. It is he who caused the dust to swirl in such a way that [[planets]] and [[moons]] and [[stars]] were formed. He does not perform these deeds in his own name. He performs these deeds in the [[service]] of [[the Father]]. It is what he was [[born]] to do. His life and his deeds are in service to [[the Father]]. There is great variety among the [[Creator Son|Creator's Sons]]. They are many. I will not attempt to impress numbers. They are easily discoverable in [[Urantia Book|the Book]]; not to diminish the validity of such pursuit but great [[variety]] exists among the Creator's Sons. Each one is [[unique]]. Each one contains certain [[aspects]] of [[the Father]] just as each person on this planet is [[different]]. You know that even among [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identical_twins#Monozygotic_.28.22identical.22.29_twins identical twins], there is no such thing as [[perfect]] [[identity]]. How much more so for a [[creature]] that is as [[powerful]] and as grand as a [[Creator Son]]. Their [[methods]] of achieving their [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_21#21:3._LOCAL_UNIVERSE_SOVEREIGNTY full bestowal powers], their full [[sovereignty]] are as varied as their [[personalities]]. We think that you are fortunate to have this [[Michael]] as your [[Creator Son]]. A most [[difficult]] [[bestowal]] for the [[Creator Sons]] is [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_119#119:7._THE_SEVENTH_AND_FINAL_BESTOWAL as a material creature of the realm]. It is a requirement of their office that they live a [[creature]] [[existence]] first hand so to [[experience]] [[Paper 119 - The Bestowals of Christ Michael|those creatures]] extant within their realm.

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The [[material]] life is the most [[difficult]]. I like the term used by a [[group]] member, Hal. In the [[study]] of [~~http~~://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_texts Buddhist literature], he came across a term. He [[described]] it as [[spiritual]] [[alchemy]]. I find that notion useful. It is as if the [[Heavenly Father]] has [[breathed]] life into the mud of this planet and from that breath, a [[spark]] of life, came [~~http~~://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_celled_organism single cell organisms], they became [~~http~~://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicellular_organism multi-celled organisms] which became colonial creatures which then became [[59:4|fish]], [[59:5|amphibians]], [~~http~~://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_60_-_Urantia_During_Early_Land-Life_Era#60:1._THE_EARLY_REPTILIAN_AGE reptiles], [[Paper 61|mammals]], and up until we three sit here in disguise is all [[the Father]]'s work performed by the [[Michael]] and his most [[difficult]] task was to drop his [[personality]] and his [[powers]] to be [[born]] as an ordinary [[creature]] of the realm. Born as an [[animal]] with the [[potential]] of becoming a [[human]] and, upon his first [[thought]], his first [[moral]] thought, he, like every other inhabitant of this planet, [~~http~~://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_108#108:2._PREREQUISITES_OF_ADJUSTER_INDWELLING received a Thought Adjuster] as a direct gift from the [[Heavenly Father]] resident on [[Paradise]]. A personal transaction he became an ordinary [[human]] and the [[Heavenly Father]] and from that point, [[Michael]], then living as [[Jesus]], went forward and showed by his every [[thought]] and deed, his life as a perfect [[reflection]] of the [[Heavenly Father]]'s will. Does that answer the first half of your question?

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The [[material]] life is the most [[difficult]]. I like the term used by a [[group]] member, Hal. In the [[study]] of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_texts Buddhist literature], he came across a term. He [[described]] it as [[spiritual]] [[alchemy]]. I find that notion useful. It is as if the [[Heavenly Father]] has [[breathed]] life into the mud of this planet and from that breath, a [[spark]] of life, came [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_celled_organism single cell organisms], they became [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicellular_organism multi-celled organisms] which became colonial creatures which then became [[59:4|fish]], [[59:5|amphibians]], [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_60_-_Urantia_During_Early_Land-Life_Era#60:1._THE_EARLY_REPTILIAN_AGE reptiles], [[Paper 61|mammals]], and up until we three sit here in disguise is all [[the Father]]'s work performed by the [[Michael]] and his most [[difficult]] task was to drop his [[personality]] and his [[powers]] to be [[born]] as an ordinary [[creature]] of the realm. Born as an [[animal]] with the [[potential]] of becoming a [[human]] and, upon his first [[thought]], his first [[moral]] thought, he, like every other inhabitant of this planet, [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_108#108:2._PREREQUISITES_OF_ADJUSTER_INDWELLING received a Thought Adjuster] as a direct gift from the [[Heavenly Father]] resident on [[Paradise]]. A personal transaction he became an ordinary [[human]] and the [[Heavenly Father]] and from that point, [[Michael]], then living as [[Jesus]], went forward and showed by his every [[thought]] and deed, his life as a perfect [[reflection]] of the [[Heavenly Father]]'s will. Does that answer the first half of your question?

PAT: There are other [[Creator Sons]] then, obviously.

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WILL: Yes, they are all called [[Michael]]. They are all the rulers of their [[local universe]] [[creation]]. Each of them has the same [[obligations]], yet the [[manner]] in which they fulfill their obligations is within their [[domain]]. It is not dictated by the [[Heavenly Father]].

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Now, the second half of your [[question]]. About people whose [[religious]] [[concept]] is [~~http~~://www.tauheed.com/ilm-source/iman/all-prophets-called-to-islamic-tauheed-exclusive-monotheism/ exclusive monotheism]. They are welcome to [[think]] whatever they think. We are not trying to [[insist]] that they think in some sort of way. If they find it as a productive road, they are welcome to think it. We, here, say that the [[reality]] is [[different]] for those who will trouble themselves to [[inquire]]. That is what [[Urantia Book]] is all about. It is for those who trouble themselves to [[inquire]]. It is not for everyone. No one is turned away. We welcome everyone's interest. We do not insist that their [[concept]] of [[religion]] involve [[celestial]] servants. It is not [[necessary]] and the [[purpose]] of the ministry of which I serve is to emphasize the [[personal]] [[relationship]] with the [[Heavenly Father]] which was felt to be not a [[topic]] capable of effective [[revelation]] by the [~~http~~://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printing_press printed page], therefore, the Book first, [[Teaching Mission|this ministry]] second. Does that answer your [[question]]?

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Now, the second half of your [[question]]. About people whose [[religious]] [[concept]] is [https://www.tauheed.com/ilm-source/iman/all-prophets-called-to-islamic-tauheed-exclusive-monotheism/ exclusive monotheism]. They are welcome to [[think]] whatever they think. We are not trying to [[insist]] that they think in some sort of way. If they find it as a productive road, they are welcome to think it. We, here, say that the [[reality]] is [[different]] for those who will trouble themselves to [[inquire]]. That is what [[Urantia Book]] is all about. It is for those who trouble themselves to [[inquire]]. It is not for everyone. No one is turned away. We welcome everyone's interest. We do not insist that their [[concept]] of [[religion]] involve [[celestial]] servants. It is not [[necessary]] and the [[purpose]] of the ministry of which I serve is to emphasize the [[personal]] [[relationship]] with the [[Heavenly Father]] which was felt to be not a [[topic]] capable of effective [[revelation]] by the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printing_press printed page], therefore, the Book first, [[Teaching Mission|this ministry]] second. Does that answer your [[question]]?

PAT: No, Will, it really does not answer. What I am concerned about is not what I think or what we think about what other people [[believe]], but about the [[fact]] that if, indeed, they must know a [[Creator Son]], in our case, [[Christ]] [[Michael]], he is the gate to [[heaven]], and they do not have an [[opportunity]] even to read the [[Bible]], much less the [[Urantia Book]], yet they [[believe]] very much as you do, or we do, in a [[personal]] [[relationship]] with God. Their religion brags about, I am speaking if [[Islam]] here, their religion brags about the [[fact]] that there is nothing standing in the way between them and their [[God]] and that you do not have to go through another [[person]]. I am [[confused]] by these teachings that seeking a [[personal]] [[relationship]] with God, but we must somehow go through [[Christ]] [[Michael]]. I am concerned in my own [[heart]]. And my other question is, living in a country where this is a predominant [[belief]]. What about these people? Does this [[philosophy]] take them into account?

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WILL: Each [[person]] must individually follow the [[path]] to [[the Father]]. There are multiple paths available. All will get you there, but for each person, there is a [[path]] that is just right for them. The Redman called it, "path with [[heart]]". That is the path that we recommend. The path that has the right heart for you. You may pick one. You may [[experience]] one. You may blunder upon one. All will get you there, but the best path for you is the path with [[heart]]. You will know it when you encounter it.

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VINCENT: Hello, Will. My [[mother]] said that I could ask a [[question]] or two, if you don't mind. I would like to know, after your [[discussion]] last night about one-to-one conversions or, at least [[enlightenment]] of people, and before I will ask the question, I will tell you that I have [[contemplated]] for some time perhaps writing a [[book]] about my [[experiences]] in all this and I have been reluctant to start it, because number one, I have not gotten to a point where I feel like it is time to write it, but secondly, I have been concerned about [~~http~~://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_communications mass communicating] when perhaps this should be more of a [[personal]] thing. Could you comment on that a little bit for me?

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VINCENT: Hello, Will. My [[mother]] said that I could ask a [[question]] or two, if you don't mind. I would like to know, after your [[discussion]] last night about one-to-one conversions or, at least [[enlightenment]] of people, and before I will ask the question, I will tell you that I have [[contemplated]] for some time perhaps writing a [[book]] about my [[experiences]] in all this and I have been reluctant to start it, because number one, I have not gotten to a point where I feel like it is time to write it, but secondly, I have been concerned about [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_communications mass communicating] when perhaps this should be more of a [[personal]] thing. Could you comment on that a little bit for me?

WILL: My dear [[friend]], you should [[obey]] your own [[cautionary]] [[senses]]. When the time is right, you will feel an irresistible [[impulse]] to do the wildest things, yet you will know that it is between you and your [[Adjuster]]. He will provide the necessaries for such a [[transaction]]. You are not anywhere near the end of our [[ministry]]. This ministry will outlast your lifetime. So far as can be seen, this ministry has no clearly definable end except your arrival in [[Paradise]]: a personal interview with the [[Heavenly Father]]. You will not be the first to so arrive; other [[humans]] from [[Urantia|your planet]] have already beat you to it. My assignment is in regard to [[personal]] ministry. My assignment is not to [[counsel]] regarding [[public]] ministry. I have no orders regarding public ministry. I will tell you that based on my [[knowledge]] of your planetary history, public ministry is a cross of splinters. I know that you like [[difficult]] assignments. I commend you. My [[counsel]] is to obey your cautionary senses. You will not always be so. You, yourself knows that if you gather [[wisdom]] and advance in [[judgment]] every week, it will not harm anything if you wait awhile and see what happens. However, if you should [[elect]] to move forward, you are certainly [[welcome]] to do so and we will raise no impediments to your [[activities]]. One moment, please. Thank you for your [[patience]]. My [[counselor]] says that no difficulties are foreseen for our ministry if you should elect to pursue the [[path]] you are considering. We welcome your [[participation]]. For the moment, however, this is not asked of you. Next question.

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WILL: [[Participants]] in [[Woods Cross TeaM|that group]], [[mortals]] of the realm, [[participating]] in that group, have some [[natural]] [[ability]] in these matters which we felt that we could capitalize on. However, it is so very [[difficult]] for the [[human]] to [[maintain]] the [[posture]] as a [[channel]] and no more, that the [[experiment]] went awry. A very innate [[ability]] of those humans just like the human participators you utilize in the transmissions for [[Tallahassee TeaM|this group]], their very willingness to [[cooperate]] is the same seed of contamination that allows the [[Distortion|pollution]] of the [[message]] or for unanticipated [[errors]] to creep in. It is what I have [[described]] before, it is an upside and downside [[problem]]. For every plus, a minus. We felt upon [[observation]] that the apparent [[failure]] of the [[healing]] [[exercises]] had certain [[tragic]] characteristics. However, I would like to use this [[opportunity]] to reaffirm what we all know is [[truth]]. If known, of those lives that were lost, the [[tragedy]] is two-fold that those unfortunate [[persons]] lost the only [[opportunity]] that they will ever have to live in [[material]] life on a [[planet]] such as yours indwelt by a [[Father fragment]] and, second, that their [[companions]] were deprived of the [[pleasure]] of their company. It was certainly a sad [[event]]. There are no gaps in [[the Father]]'s plan. His hands hold all and no [[soul]] slips through His fingers. However, notwithstanding the [[tragedy]] for [[personalities]] directly involved, it was seen that the [[experiment]] with earthly [[healing]] contained more [[possibility]] for harm than [[good]] and that the program was [[judged]] by its [[failures]]. I cannot dispute that. My [[knowledge]] on this matter is [[limited]] and my [[understanding]] is that that [[activity]] is [[suspended]]. That is my present understanding. Next question.

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VINCENT: Will, this is Vincent again. I am going back to Chicago next week and the last time I was there, I met with [~~http~~://urantiabook.org/archive/history/doc108.htm Martin Myers] and talked generally with him and I have had an urge to call him and take him to dinner and maybe [[speak]] a little bit more frankly about what is going on. I have had this [[feeling]] that maybe some of this was not mere [[coincidence]] that I was able to get in to him, but maybe there was some [[part]] of a [[plan]] that I should know about. For instance, should I [[work]] on trying to [[mediate]] the problem between the two [[Sects|factions]]? Should I tell them what is going on with the respective [[celestial]] [[teachers]]? Should I not even talk to the guy or is this something that you want to leave up to my [[judgment]]?

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VINCENT: Will, this is Vincent again. I am going back to Chicago next week and the last time I was there, I met with [https://urantiabook.org/archive/history/doc108.htm Martin Myers] and talked generally with him and I have had an urge to call him and take him to dinner and maybe [[speak]] a little bit more frankly about what is going on. I have had this [[feeling]] that maybe some of this was not mere [[coincidence]] that I was able to get in to him, but maybe there was some [[part]] of a [[plan]] that I should know about. For instance, should I [[work]] on trying to [[mediate]] the problem between the two [[Sects|factions]]? Should I tell them what is going on with the respective [[celestial]] [[teachers]]? Should I not even talk to the guy or is this something that you want to leave up to my [[judgment]]?

WILL: We have great [[faith]] in your [[judgment]]. However, in addition to a general [[expression]] of our [[confidence]] in you, we think that you will be well served to follow your present assignment. [[Listen]]. [[Engage]] this person. Allow yourself to be the [[perfect]] [[reflecting]] [[mirror]] thereby shining [[the Father]]'s light unrefracted and [[illuminate]] his [[mind]]. He is capable of it. He is the right position. You must [[listen]] first, then your [[judgment]] will guide you and we will assist you. But as always, you must do the hard [[work]], but you enjoy it anyway. Next question.

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WILL: The [[Urantia Book]] is a kind of [[cosmology]]. It is basic [[factual]] [[information]] about the [[mechanisms]] of the [[creation]], [[the Father]]'s personal ministry and His efforts to blanket His [[creation]] with [[Paper 30 - Personalities of the Grand Universe|specific orders of creatures]]. His assigned [[duty]] is to perfectly [[respond]] to the [[necessities]] required by [[ascending creatures]] such as yourselves in order to make proper [[spiritual]] [[progress]] so as to ultimately meet one-to-one with the [[Paradise Father]]. I recommend that you read in [[Urantia Book|the Book]] sections on the different [[mansion worlds]]. Pay [[attention]] to the [[facts]] described therein, comparing the levels of instruction which are provided in each of the different worlds. The worlds are but [[schools]] from which [[souls]] [[graduate]] one to the next and the next, to the next. This is a [[pattern]] of [[progress]] just as you yourself have gone from teacher to [[teacher]], from [[knowledge]] to yet more knowledge. The [[Urantia Book]] contains a range and a selection of teachings drawn from different [[mansion worlds]] which are thought to be understandable by a cross section of people on [[your planet]].

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The [[Urantia Book]] is a [[tool]]. It is an [[inspired]] tool. It is a [[Michael]] tool. It is a gift from us to you. It is just the kind of gift that we make you. You have to do a lot of work, but we believe that it is worthwhile. We do not say that the [[Urantia Book]] replaces some other [[book]]. We will say that it supplements other books. We will say that the [~~http~~://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus section on the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth] qualifies as a restatement of the [[Christian]] religion although I . ... I should properly say a restatement of the religion of Jesus of Nazareth. Christianity, as presently constituted, has [[buried]] within it [[seeds]] of the [[religion]] of [[Jesus]], but they are buried under the crust of [[dogma]] and [[doctrine]]. His living [[gospel]] has been stifled in general so we do not say the [[Urantia Book]] replaces the [[Christian]] [[Bible]], the [~~http~~://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_texts text of Hindus], and there are thousands of [~~http~~://cdli.ucla.edu/ cuneiform tablets] untranslated. The [[Urantia Book]] is not a replacement. It is a [[gift]]. I do not wish this book to be used as the [[Christian]] [[Bible]] has been used as a test of [[faith]] or a test of [[knowledge]] or as a tool of [[domination]]. It is just a gift. It is not [[necessary]] in the present ministry to [[revelation]] and expansion of [[the Father]]'s [[personal]] [[interaction]] with His [[children]] on the [[material]] world. The [[Urantia Book]] has been a useful introduction and is a great [[assistance]] to us in our [[efforts]] for at least we do not have the burden of educating people to a completely new set of [[terminology]].

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The [[Urantia Book]] is a [[tool]]. It is an [[inspired]] tool. It is a [[Michael]] tool. It is a gift from us to you. It is just the kind of gift that we make you. You have to do a lot of work, but we believe that it is worthwhile. We do not say that the [[Urantia Book]] replaces some other [[book]]. We will say that it supplements other books. We will say that the [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus section on the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth] qualifies as a restatement of the [[Christian]] religion although I . ... I should properly say a restatement of the religion of Jesus of Nazareth. Christianity, as presently constituted, has [[buried]] within it [[seeds]] of the [[religion]] of [[Jesus]], but they are buried under the crust of [[dogma]] and [[doctrine]]. His living [[gospel]] has been stifled in general so we do not say the [[Urantia Book]] replaces the [[Christian]] [[Bible]], the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_texts text of Hindus], and there are thousands of [https://cdli.ucla.edu/ cuneiform tablets] untranslated. The [[Urantia Book]] is not a replacement. It is a [[gift]]. I do not wish this book to be used as the [[Christian]] [[Bible]] has been used as a test of [[faith]] or a test of [[knowledge]] or as a tool of [[domination]]. It is just a gift. It is not [[necessary]] in the present ministry to [[revelation]] and expansion of [[the Father]]'s [[personal]] [[interaction]] with His [[children]] on the [[material]] world. The [[Urantia Book]] has been a useful introduction and is a great [[assistance]] to us in our [[efforts]] for at least we do not have the burden of educating people to a completely new set of [[terminology]].

[[The Father]]'s ministry cannot be stopped. It is like [[evolution]]. Once unleashed, it cannot be stopped. It is central to do what the Father needs. [[Teaching Mission|Our mission]] is only to [[illuminate]] His concern and His [[activity]] to assist those who are interested in direct one-to-one [[communication]] with the [[Father fragment]] which we believe is possible for all.

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[[Our Father]] loves all His [[children]] equally. He is no respecter of people and when [[our Father]] says that, how can we be any less? How can we go around [[judging]] others? We must learn to walk in their shoes to [[understand]] their natures, to understand what it is like from their life [[experience]]. Only then can we truly begin to [[love]] our fellow man. It is of little concern what they have gone through or what they are [[enduring]] at the [[moment]]. Our only concern should be to [[love]] them in the best way possible and I have already listed those ways for you.

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In this next week, and surely for all the rest of your lives, be [[aware]] of what you can do to ease a fellow's burden. Watch your [[Speech|tongues]]. Watch your tempers. Those of you who have [[family]] [[entanglements]], try to find a way to solve them because surely they are a [[waste]] of [[energy]]. There is so much more to be about than to [[waste]] our time [[worrying]] about things we cannot [[change]]. If there is someone you are having [[trouble]] getting along with, [[love]] them. Love them even though they seem [[difficult]] to love for [[God]] does and in this way, and [[hopefully]] within time, you will come to have a new [[understanding]] of this [[person]]. By nursing a [~~http~~://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grudge grudge], by holding onto [[feelings]] that are not helpful to the situation, you cannot [[heal]] it. You will only keep it going and that was not [[the Master]]'s way. He was a healer, and in our [[studies]], we learn to be one also. The best way to be God's child is to be a child of [[love]]. That means putting aside all [[ego]] and demands for yourself and looking to the other [[person]], not to be used by that person, but to [[understand]] him. Rely upon your good [[judgment]] but know that [[God]] is taking care of the situation. [[Our Father]] is always working His way and the [[problem]], whatever it be, is in His hands. You do not have to solve it. Turn it over to Him. Whenever you face something that you find insurmountable, [[pray]] about it. Let God have it and then don't dig it up again to find out how He is doing. Just [[confidently]] know that [[everything]] is being worked out. It may not work out the way that you intended it to, but it will work out and it will work out [[God]]'s way. Some [[surprising]] results have come about by turning our [[problems]] over to Him. Things have been accomplished that we never could have [[imagined]]. Solutions to our [[problems]] have come about and suggestions for the [[future]] and for our lives have come about that never could have dawned upon us. We are so [[limited]] that all we see is our [[Spacetime|time and our space]]. God sees all and in His [[sight]], all is solved. There are no [[problems]] for God has already solved them. Call upon Him while He is near. Seek His [[gentleness]]. Have [[confidence]] that He is with you, helping you in all that you face.

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In this next week, and surely for all the rest of your lives, be [[aware]] of what you can do to ease a fellow's burden. Watch your [[Speech|tongues]]. Watch your tempers. Those of you who have [[family]] [[entanglements]], try to find a way to solve them because surely they are a [[waste]] of [[energy]]. There is so much more to be about than to [[waste]] our time [[worrying]] about things we cannot [[change]]. If there is someone you are having [[trouble]] getting along with, [[love]] them. Love them even though they seem [[difficult]] to love for [[God]] does and in this way, and [[hopefully]] within time, you will come to have a new [[understanding]] of this [[person]]. By nursing a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grudge grudge], by holding onto [[feelings]] that are not helpful to the situation, you cannot [[heal]] it. You will only keep it going and that was not [[the Master]]'s way. He was a healer, and in our [[studies]], we learn to be one also. The best way to be God's child is to be a child of [[love]]. That means putting aside all [[ego]] and demands for yourself and looking to the other [[person]], not to be used by that person, but to [[understand]] him. Rely upon your good [[judgment]] but know that [[God]] is taking care of the situation. [[Our Father]] is always working His way and the [[problem]], whatever it be, is in His hands. You do not have to solve it. Turn it over to Him. Whenever you face something that you find insurmountable, [[pray]] about it. Let God have it and then don't dig it up again to find out how He is doing. Just [[confidently]] know that [[everything]] is being worked out. It may not work out the way that you intended it to, but it will work out and it will work out [[God]]'s way. Some [[surprising]] results have come about by turning our [[problems]] over to Him. Things have been accomplished that we never could have [[imagined]]. Solutions to our [[problems]] have come about and suggestions for the [[future]] and for our lives have come about that never could have dawned upon us. We are so [[limited]] that all we see is our [[Spacetime|time and our space]]. God sees all and in His [[sight]], all is solved. There are no [[problems]] for God has already solved them. Call upon Him while He is near. Seek His [[gentleness]]. Have [[confidence]] that He is with you, helping you in all that you face.

Rely not upon your own ways for surely you have help. You have more [[spiritual]] help that you can yet [[realize]]. You are [[aware]] of some of the spiritual helpers that you have. We have talked about them many times and you have had some [[visit]] you in our group but there is still yet more to come. There are more helpers coming to each one of you and, indeed, to [[Urantia|your world]]. I was glad to hear the [[reading]] off of the [[names]] and the [[TeaM|groups]] around our country for surely you need to be [[aware]] of the [[work]] that is proceeding. Our work grows by leaps and bounds every day as we look for groups who are ready to [[accept]] new [[teachers]]. There is much work to do and we are so pleased that things are [[proceeding]] at such a rapid [[pace]]. Before long, we will have many more [[teachers]] in place and many more [[groups]] as they are ready and receivers as they are [[trained]] to receive them. I urge you to [[practice]] your own [[stillness]] for indeed each one of you are capable of receiving us if you would just continue to [[practice]]. I know it must be [[frustrating]] but continue your practice, your [[stillness]]. You will not [[regret]] it. There are times that we [[realize]] when your lives are very active and you truly do not have time, but many of you are [[engaged]] in activities that, from the [[spiritual]] realm, are a [[waste]] of time. While you need your [[recreation]], there are things that you could be doing instead of spending time, wasting time, you could be spending time with your [[Heavenly Father]]. All that we have asked you to do is spend fifteen to twenty minutes each day, twice a day if you are able. What a lighter burden you would carry if you would only find this time. The solutions that you seek to daily [[problems]], the [[struggles]] that you hassle with, the [[relationships]] that seem strained will all be resolved and in their place you will find [[peace]], contentment and a peace of [[mind]] that only comes from [[the Father]]. He dwells with you daily. The inner [[Adjuster]] helps whenever you are [[attuned]]; standing alert to help you in whatever [[manner]] you are able to allow Him to do so.

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This life is but a fleeting [[shadow]]. A moment irreplaceable in [[experience]]. Although no road is foreclosed, never again will any [[experience]] exactly the same be presented to you. So in one way, or one approach, you have but a single [[opportunity]] to pursue the [[work]] of [[the Father]]. Those of us who are [[Fusion|fused]] mortals at one with the [[Adjuster]] look on your lives and [[wish]] that we could [[intervene]]. Indeed, even live your lives for you for we [[think]] that we know a better way, but it is not to be. We would live your lives in a fashion markedly different from the fashion in which you prosecute your daily [[activities]].

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When you [[read]] the papers in the [[Urantia Book]] describing the [~~http~~://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_Urantia_Text_-_Contents#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth], you will quickly [[deduce]] that [[the Master]] was constantly [[aware]] of the passage of [[linear]] [[time]]. He was constantly aware that he had but a short time available to him to gain the [[necessary]] [[experience]] required to discharge his [[responsibilities]]. He well knew that he had but a few years and that his time was [[limited]] and would one day abruptly end in a whirl of [[events]] beyond his [[control]]. He had elected years before [[purposely]] not to [[control]] such events; to live out his life as an [[ordinary]] [[creature]] of the realm; not to intervene with his many [[supreme]] [[powers]]. Well he knew that his time was limited, that his days were numbered and he lived his life knowing that he had not much time, that every day was precious and a gift from the [[Heavenly Father]].

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When you [[read]] the papers in the [[Urantia Book]] describing the [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_Urantia_Text_-_Contents#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth], you will quickly [[deduce]] that [[the Master]] was constantly [[aware]] of the passage of [[linear]] [[time]]. He was constantly aware that he had but a short time available to him to gain the [[necessary]] [[experience]] required to discharge his [[responsibilities]]. He well knew that he had but a few years and that his time was [[limited]] and would one day abruptly end in a whirl of [[events]] beyond his [[control]]. He had elected years before [[purposely]] not to [[control]] such events; to live out his life as an [[ordinary]] [[creature]] of the realm; not to intervene with his many [[supreme]] [[powers]]. Well he knew that his time was limited, that his days were numbered and he lived his life knowing that he had not much time, that every day was precious and a gift from the [[Heavenly Father]].

Each of you also know as well that [[time]] is short, yet you [[steadfastly]] refuse to [[act]] upon that [[knowledge]]. You dispute it. You deny it. You avoid it. You temporize. You makes excuses and have more important things to [[think]] about. All invalid. No man or woman knows when they will depart this life. Look upon those known to you who sense an imminent departure. See how their lives are changed. You would do well to live as if there were no tomorrow. Every [[moment]] is precious rightly to be turned to [[the Father]]'s work for the door to the after life is a one-way door. You shall not pass it again. It is an extraordinary [[dispensation]] that any [[creature]] shall live two lives on the [[material]] [[planets]]. There is no [[school]] like this school. The [[experience]] gained here can be approximated; schools exist on the [[mansion worlds]] for that very [[purpose]], yet this [[experience]] cannot be duplicated. This [[experience]] is a once in a spiritual lifetime [[opportunity]]. Oh, it is [[difficult]], troublesome, confounding and vexing. We well know. We are informed by [[humans]] on a regular basis the difficulties involved. But you would be [[surprised]], perhaps, to know that that is not the bulk of the [[information]] which we above receive. Many are the days spent in the [[glorification]] of life. The [[love]] of [[family]]. The concern for [[neighbors]], [[friends]] and [[kin]]. The [[physical]] and [[emotional]] [[love]] showered upon the [[children]], the fond [[thoughts]] for elderly [[parents]]. The longings for distant [[friendships]]. You know not how [[the Father]] counts that [[love]]. It is what makes you [[human]].

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Now we are past the [~~http~~://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solstice solstice] in the [[cycle]] of [[nature]]. The days begin imperceptively to [[grow]] short. So, too, have many of you passed the half-way mark. The [[light]] is no less bright. The [[love]] is showered upon you freely. It is a [[well]] from which you can draw without end, but mark well, there will be no day ever again like today. No [[moment]] like this [[moment]]. No such person shall approach you again in exactly the same way with that particularized need that only you can [[satisfy]]. Yes, we would live your lives [[differently]], but that [[experience]] is denied. We have said before that [[God]] can love you only in the present, not in the [[future]]. He is not bound by [[time]], it is but one of His [[tools]]. Wherever He lives is the present. If He would divert His [[attention]] away for one moment, all of this would cease to be, yet He will not, for He loves us and He is fond of us despite all of our [[failings]]. He likes to see us [[progress]]. We are His children and He loves us. We should help each other like [[brothers and sisters]] [[sharing]] the benefits of our [[experiences]] with each other without attempting to replace our [[judgment]] and [[wisdom]] for that of the others.

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Now we are past the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solstice solstice] in the [[cycle]] of [[nature]]. The days begin imperceptively to [[grow]] short. So, too, have many of you passed the half-way mark. The [[light]] is no less bright. The [[love]] is showered upon you freely. It is a [[well]] from which you can draw without end, but mark well, there will be no day ever again like today. No [[moment]] like this [[moment]]. No such person shall approach you again in exactly the same way with that particularized need that only you can [[satisfy]]. Yes, we would live your lives [[differently]], but that [[experience]] is denied. We have said before that [[God]] can love you only in the present, not in the [[future]]. He is not bound by [[time]], it is but one of His [[tools]]. Wherever He lives is the present. If He would divert His [[attention]] away for one moment, all of this would cease to be, yet He will not, for He loves us and He is fond of us despite all of our [[failings]]. He likes to see us [[progress]]. We are His children and He loves us. We should help each other like [[brothers and sisters]] [[sharing]] the benefits of our [[experiences]] with each other without attempting to replace our [[judgment]] and [[wisdom]] for that of the others.

We are all [[family]] - you and I, those not present tonight and those [[unknown]] to us. But in order for us to know [[the Father]] [[intimately]], we must forego our near [[obsession]] with [[planning]] for the [[future]] which may never arrive. It is not how well we have planned for some distant [[future]] that counts in [[heaven]], it is the [[history]] that we accumulate living [[moment]] by moment in the [[present]] where the [[Father fragment]] can [[communicate]] with us. The [[Adjuster]] cannot inhabit the [[future]]. He can arrive only when we arrive. He cannot live in the [[past]]. It is a closed [[book]]. The [[Adjuster]]'s realm is in the [[present]], the right now, the this [[moment]], in the thoughts and the urgings, in the deeds performed with His [[leadings]]. If you will make [[progress]] and you [[wish]] to know [[the Father]], you must know Him right now. It is the [[limitation]] on the [[material]] life [[creatures]]. You are not time [[fluid]]. Those moments you spend living in the future and living in the past are lost forever. Pay [[attention]] to today. The [[future]] will take care of itself. It is in God's hands anyway. You can bring no great [[influence]] to bear anyway.

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