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WILL: We think at this point that this is a novel and original approach of [[Thought Adjuster]] identification. So far as we portend, no [[problems]] are foreseen. If you find it useful, we [[encourage]] you to inhabit this notion. We will say that the only [[problem]] that we foresee is the [[interpretation]] under the [[modern]] standards of [[psychological]] and psychiatric [[personality]] divisions. That does not invalidate this as a [[technique]]. It is impossible for this movement from going forward without taking some arrows. Many of them will hurt, badly. There is nothing for it but to take it up with [[the Father]]. We [[encourage]] you to pursue this saying only that it is possible that this [[technique]] is easily misinterpreted by your fellow [[secular]] [[academics]]. Is that [[satisfactory]]?
 
WILL: We think at this point that this is a novel and original approach of [[Thought Adjuster]] identification. So far as we portend, no [[problems]] are foreseen. If you find it useful, we [[encourage]] you to inhabit this notion. We will say that the only [[problem]] that we foresee is the [[interpretation]] under the [[modern]] standards of [[psychological]] and psychiatric [[personality]] divisions. That does not invalidate this as a [[technique]]. It is impossible for this movement from going forward without taking some arrows. Many of them will hurt, badly. There is nothing for it but to take it up with [[the Father]]. We [[encourage]] you to pursue this saying only that it is possible that this [[technique]] is easily misinterpreted by your fellow [[secular]] [[academics]]. Is that [[satisfactory]]?
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JUDY: Yes. I have one other [[question]]. Many of us have been going to hear Reverend Holmes on Wednesday at noon at [http://betheltally.org/ Bethel Missionary Baptist Church]. I'm sure you have been there on occasions. The [[message]] rings true as being a [[personal religion]] and yet there are some times where there are [[references]] to the [[devil]], et cetera. It is easy to invite people to that, I suppose because it is novel. Is there anything that we should watch out for or could you comment on the service and the orientation.
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JUDY: Yes. I have one other [[question]]. Many of us have been going to hear Reverend Holmes on Wednesday at noon at [http://betheltally.org/ Bethel Missionary Baptist Church]. I'm sure you have been there on occasions. The [[message]] rings true as being a [[personal religion]] and yet there are some times where there are [[references]] to the [[devil]], et cetera. It is easy to invite people to that, I [[suppose]] because it is novel. Is there anything that we should watch out for or could you comment on the [[service]] and the [[orientation]].
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WILL: So far as we have observed he is a sincere and spirit led seeker who is skilled in sharing his developing daily perceptions and spiritual growth patterns with those willing to listen to his words. I have no criticisms of him. We embrace him. Another?
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WILL: So far as we have [[observed]] he is a [[sincere]] and spirit led [[seeker]] who is skilled in sharing his developing daily [[perceptions]] and [[spiritual growth]] patterns with those willing to [[listen]] to his [[words]]. I have no [[criticisms]] of him. We [[embrace]] him. Another?
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===='''''[[Experience]]'''''====
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VINCENT: Will, this is Vincent. I'm glad you're taking [[questions]] again. We always like to put you on the line every now and then. Recently we heard from Connie Lester who told us about an [[experience]] she had going to the [[sea of glass]] for a [[conclave]] with [[Gabriel]]. Do you know anything about this particular [[conclave]] or can you give us any [[verification]] of this [[experience]]?
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VINCENT: Will, this is Vincent. I'm glad you're taking questions again. We always like to put you on the line every now and then. Recently we heard from Connie Lester who told us about an experience she had going to the sea of glass for a conclave with Gabriel. Do you know anything about this particular conclave or can you give us any verification of this experience?
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WILL: I am loathe to comment on reports of [[events]] such as this. Here is the reason why. This [[type]] of [[experience]] is akin to the [[reality]] captured in a [[photograph]]. Two key components to photographic [[record]] are [[perspective]] and capture of a [[moment]] in [[time]]. What is valid at that moment may be more so or less so sometime down [[stream]]. I realize that this may not be [[satisfactory]] as an answer. We all [[hope]] that you will see. [[The Father]] is building a wall; His great wall, fit for many to [[travel]] upon. His laborers are incapable of sustaining their [[attention]] for very long. Some become [[enthusiastic]], work [[alone]] or in [[concert]], will apply themselves [[diligently]] far outstripping their [[brothers and sisters]]. You would use the [[ironic]] [[expression]] - "tear it up". Ten paces later, no [[foundation]] is laid. [[The Father]] takes [[advantage]] of whatever [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masonry masons] are at hand, wherever they happen to be. Your [[friend]] who [[visited]] the [[sea of glass]] is one such [[artisan]]. She is no more [[responsible]] than you are for the [[validity]] or [[meaning]] of her [[experience]]. It is just an experience meant for her. I can add little to it and, in general, by my comments would only take away from it. I [[hope]] that answers. I am fond of you and the type of questions that you ask. It is not easy to answer. ([[laughter]])
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===='''''[[Materialization]]'''''====
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VINCENT: O.K. Here's another one. We have had some [[dispute]] about this [[materialization]] thing and, while I am the first one to say not to make [[predictions]] because of the [[effect]] of them, we have had a series of [[communications]]. The initial one seemed to indicate the [[materializations]] were imminent. Later the [[Woods Cross TeaM|Utah papers]] had indicated [[Abraham]] said that this was some time in the [[future]] but did not discount the [[fact]] that it would happen sometime. Tonight you apologized for a comment you had made which was somewhat [[offensive]] to some of us who had only heard your [[words]] about it. So I'd like you to gather together the [[opinions]] of these [[teachers]] and all of the others and tell us, without making [[predictions]], do we still have a valid [[communication]] that the [[materializations]] will happen? In the [[Woods Cross TeaM|Utah papers]] they said it would happen within Joshua's lifetime or whatever. I guess the [[question]] is, first of all is this still a valid item of the [[plan]] and, if it is, then is this something we should not [[worry]] about or is it imminent?
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WILL: I am loathe to comment on reports of events such as this. Here is the reason why. This type of experience is akin to the reality captured in a photograph. Two key components to photographic record are perspective and capture of a moment in time. What is valid at that moment may be more so or less so sometime down stream. I realize that this may not be satisfactory as an answer. We all hope that you will see. The Father is building a wall; His great wall, fit for many to travel upon. His laborers are incapable of sustaining their attention for very long. Some become enthusiastic, work alone or in concert, will apply themselves diligently far outstripping their brothers and sisters. You would use the ironic expression - "tear it up". Ten paces later, no foundation is laid. The Father takes advantage of whatever masons are at hand, wherever they happen to be. Your friend who visited the sea of glass is one such artisan. She is no more responsible than you are for the validity or meaning of her experience. It is just an experience meant for her. I can add little to it and, in general, by my comments would only take away from it. I hope that answers. I am fond of you and the type of questions that you ask. It is not easy to answer. (laughter)
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WILL: My friend, I will provide you a benefit and save you a great deal of consternation; [[materializations]] will take place some time in the [[future]]. That is all I have to say ([[laughter]]). So far as whether or not I shall survey [[heaven]] for a [[consistent]] [[opinion]], you yourself know that the least exertion that such an [[expression]] of opinion would be no more [[valid]] than anything else that you are capable of substantiating upon your own efforts. Were I to do so it would have exactly the same [[meaning]] as your [[effort]]. Therefore, I decline. I know that your [[intention]] is [[pure]]. I am [[wondering]] myself but I do not have as much time to wonder as you. Next.
 
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VINCENT: O.K. Here's another one. We have had some dispute about this materialization thing and, while I am the first one to say not to make predictions because of the effect of them, we have had a series of communications. The initial one seemed to indicate the materializations were imminent. Later the Utah papers had indicated Abraham said that this was some time in the future but did not discount the fact that it would happen sometime. Tonight you apologized for a comment you had made which was somewhat offensive to some of us who had only heard your words about it. So I'd like you to gather together the opinions of these teachers and all of the others and tell us, without making predictions, do we still have a valid communication that the materializations will happen? In the Utah papers they said it would happen within Joshua's lifetime or whatever. I guess the question is, first of all is this still a valid item of the plan and, if it is, then is this something we should not worry about or is it imminent?
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WILL: My friend, I will provide you a benefit and save you a great deal of consternation; materializations will take place some time in the future. That is all I have to say (laughter). So far as whether or not I shall survey heaven for a consistent opinion, you yourself know that the least exertion that such an expression of opinion would be no more valid than anything else that you are capable of substantiating upon your own efforts. Were I to do so it would have exactly the same meaning as your effort. Therefore, I decline. I know that your intention is pure. I am wondering myself but I do not have as much time to wonder as you. Next.
      
JUDY: Will, this is Judy, again. We began the meditation in our evening meeting to, as Joan calls it, "jump-start" some of those people that might have the ability to communicate with celestials. Is this still a productive time? I think that most people enjoy it but we don't quite know what to expect out of the time. Could you give us a little guidance on that?
 
JUDY: Will, this is Judy, again. We began the meditation in our evening meeting to, as Joan calls it, "jump-start" some of those people that might have the ability to communicate with celestials. Is this still a productive time? I think that most people enjoy it but we don't quite know what to expect out of the time. Could you give us a little guidance on that?

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