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WILL: Yes.

WILL: Yes.

PAT: Since the teachings of each are not the same, how do we, as struggling mortals, sort out truth from each of these?

PAT: Since the teachings of each are not the same, how do we, as [[struggling]] [[mortals]], sort out [[truth]] from each of these?

WILL: With your heart.

WILL: With your [[heart]].

PAT: But if each is truly inspired, I don't know how we as mortals could make a distinction as to which ones have been divinely inspired, and if any have not, which have not, and they do not say the same things and in some cases are diametrically opposed to one another, how are we to judge if each lays out a path which we should follow.

PAT: But if each is truly [[inspired]], I don't know how we as [[mortals]] could make a distinction as to which ones have been [[divinely]] [[inspired]], and if any have not, which have not, and they do not say the same things and in some cases are diametrically [[opposed]] to one another, how are we to [[judge]] if each lays out a path which we should follow.

WILL: Each person must individually follow the path to the Father. There are multiple paths available. All will get you there, but for each person, there is a path that is just right for them. The Redman called it, "path with heart". That is the path that we recommend. The path that has the right heart for you. You may pick one. You may experience one. You may blunder upon one. All will get you there, but the best path for you is the path with heart. You will know it when you encounter it.

WILL: Each [[person]] must individually follow the [[path]] to [[the Father]]. There are multiple paths available. All will get you there, but for each person, there is a [[path]] that is just right for them. The Redman called it, "path with [[heart]]". That is the path that we recommend. The path that has the right heart for you. You may pick one. You may [[experience]] one. You may blunder upon one. All will get you there, but the best path for you is the path with [[heart]]. You will know it when you encounter it.

VINCENT: Hello, Will. My mother said that I could ask a question or two, if you don't mind. I would like to know, after your discussion last night about one-to-one conversions or, at least enlightenment of people, and before I will ask the question, I will tell you that I have contemplated for some time perhaps writing a book about my experiences in all this and I have been reluctant to start it, because number one, I have not gotten to a point where I feel like it is time to write it, but secondly, I have been concerned about mass communicating when perhaps this should be more of a personal thing. Could you comment on that a little bit for me?

WILL: My dear [[friend]], you should [[obey]] your own [[cautionary]] [[senses]]. When the time is right, you will feel an irresistible [[impulse]] to do the wildest things, yet you will know that it is between you and your [[Adjuster]]. He will provide the necessaries for such a [[transaction]]. You are not anywhere near the end of our [[ministry]]. This ministry will outlast your lifetime. So far as can be seen, this ministry has no clearly definable end except your arrival in [[p\Paradise]]: a personal interview with the [[Heavenly Father]]. You will not be the first to so arrive; other [[humans]] from [[Urantia|your planet]] have already beat you to it. My assignment is in regard to [[personal]] ministry. My assignment is not to [[counsel]] regarding [[public]] ministry. I have no orders regarding public ministry. I will tell you that based on my [[knowledge]] of your planetary history, public ministry is a cross of splinters. I know that you like [[difficult]] assignments. I commend you. My [[counsel]] is to obey your cautionary senses. You will not always be so. You, yourself knows that if you gather [[wisdom]] and advance in [[judgment]] every week, it will not harm anything if you wait awhile and see what happens. However, if you should [[elect]] to move forward, you are certainly [[welcome]] to do so and we will raise no impediments to your [[activities]]. One moment, please. Thank you for your [[patience]]. My [[counselor]] says that no difficulties are foreseen for our ministry if you should elect to pursue the [[path]] you are considering. We welcome your [[participation]]. For the moment, however, this is not asked of you. Next question.

PAT: My [[husband]] asked me to ask in the tapes which we are sent by Vincent, you frequently say that you are not allowed to answer that, or you can't tell them this or you cannot divulge this. Why is that? We [[think]] [[faith]] is [[wonderful]] but we have this need to know as much as we can and since you are here, we feel that we want all the [[information]], why are you [[limited]] as to what you can tell us?

WILL: My dear friend, you should obey your own cautionary senses. When the time is right, you will feel an irresistible impulse to do the wildest things, yet you will know that it is between you and your Adjuster. He will provide the necessaries for such a transaction. You are not anywhere near the end of our ministry. This ministry will outlast your lifetime. So far as can be seen, this ministry has no clearly definable end except your arrival in paradise: a personal interview with the Heavenly Father. You will not be the first to so arrive; other humans from your planet have already beat you to it. My assignment is in regard to personal ministry. My assignment is not to counsel regarding public ministry. I have no orders regarding public ministry. I will tell you that based on my knowledge of your planetary history, public ministry is a cross of splinters. I know that you like difficult assignments. I commend you. My counsel is to obey your cautionary senses. You will not always be so. You, yourself knows that if you gather wisdom and advance in judgment every week, it will not harm anything if you wait awhile and see what happens. However, if you should elect to move forward, you are certainly welcome to do so and we will raise no impediments to your activities. One moment, please. Thank you for your patience. My counselor says that no difficulties are foreseen for our ministry if you should elect to pursue the path you are considering. We welcome your participation. For the moment, however, this is not asked of you. Next question.

WILL: In [[Teaching Mission|this ministry]] there were only three [[personalities]] involved with first-hand [[experience]] as teachers on [[Urantia|your planet]], [[Michael]], [[Machiventa]] Melchizedek and [[Abraham]] (he prefers the title "[[Sword]] of [[Yahweh]]"). Because so many [[personalities]] are involved and because of the [[necessary]] [[frailties]] involved with transmissions through [[cooperative]] [[humans]] of greater or lesser capability, it has been a [[policy]] not to attempt to restate or recalculate [[factual]] [[information]] presented in the [[Urantia Book]] itself or within the body of established [[science]] known on your planet. The primary [[justification]] for this [[policy]] was that because this information is both generally and especially available. For us to allow such things to be used as [[proof]], proves nothing, because such [[knowledge]] could be obtained by any [[human]]. That is the basic restriction under which we work.

PAT: My husband asked me to ask in the tapes which we are sent by Vincent, you frequently say that you are not allowed to answer that, or you can't tell them this or you cannot divulge this. Why is that? We think faith is wonderful but we have this need to know as much as we can and since you are here, we feel that we want all the information, why are you limited as to what you can tell us?

Then, as Vincent will tell you, we have had a number of [[negative]] [[experiences]] with our attempts to accommodate the [[human]] [[desire]] for [[predictions]] and [[personalized]] instructions. We do not [[regret]] our [[participation]] but it is impossible for us to [[maintain]] any [[quality]] [[control]] on those types of [[transactions]] for the human [[heart]] is so hopeful that we have seen repeatedly the least intimation causes the human [[listener]] first to [[abandon]] all sense of [[personal]] [[responsibility]] for [[progress]], individual progress, and second, to run away with the [[emotional]] [[wave]] of their most [[Intense|fervent]] [[hopes]]. So while we were willing to [[discuss]] a number of things, we do not think that the result has been especially desirable. It has been decided, based upon [[experience]], [[predicted]] beforehand by the three [[personalities]] with first-hand experience on [[this planet]], that the people are simply not ready. Therefore, there are many things that we will not [[discuss]] with them now as [[policy]].

WILL: In this ministry there were only three personalities involved with first-hand experience as teachers on your planet, Michael, Machiventa Melchizedek and Abraham (he prefers the title "Sword of Yahweh"). Because so many personalities are involved and because of the necessary frailties involved with transmissions through cooperative humans of greater or lesser capability, it has been a policy not to attempt to restate or recalculate factual information presented in the Urantia Book itself or within the body of established science known on your planet. The primary justification for this policy was that because this information is both generally and especially available. For us to allow such things to be used as proof, proves nothing, because such knowledge could be obtained by any human. That is the basic restriction under which we work.

We [[realize]] that it is a burden on you. We realize that more is [[necessary]] in terms of [[spiritual]] [[guidance]] and, most particularly, spiritual [[leadership]] in the [[material]] flesh on [[your planet]]. We know this. We are authorized that a quick perusal of the [[Urantia Book]] will demonstrate the harms in common upon variation by [[individual]] [[initiative]] from the [[Heavenly Father]]'s [[plan]]. Although we [[sympathize]] with your situation, there is no way that any of us will break the [[policy]] on [[individual]] initiative. It simply proved to be unproductive. We [[regret]] the situation, but until we are authorized, we will take no [[action]] outside the parameters of [[Teaching Mission|our mission]] presently described. I [[hope]] that satisfies.

PAT: That is fine, thank you. Obviously, it doesn't [[satisfy]] because you still want to know regardless of the [[parameters]], we still want to know. I [[understand]] what you are saying. In line with that, and you were talking about the parameters which you had in the [[hopes]] of the human [[heart]], in early [[transcripts]] from [[Ham]] out in [[Woods Cross TeaM|Utah]], there was a great deal of [[discussion]] about [[healing]] and about offering [[advice]] to those who were quite ill as to what [[medical]] treatment to take and not to take, and things to do, and I was rather alarmed at that. Is this outside the [[parameters]]? I don't find this in any of the other teachings since then that I have had the [[privilege]] to [[read]]. I just wondered if you would comment on that.

 

WILL: [[Participants]] in [[Woods Cross TeaM|that group]], [[mortals]] of the realm, [[participating]] in that group, have some [[natural]] [[ability]] in these matters which we felt that we could capitalize on. However, it is so very [[difficult]] for the human to maintain the posture as a channel and no more, that the experiment went awry. A very innate ability of those humans just like the human participators you utilize in the transmissions for this group, their very willingness to cooperate is the same seed of contamination that allows the pollution of the message or for unanticipated errors to creep in. It is what I have described before, it is an upside and downside problem. For every plus, a minus. We felt upon observation that the apparent failure of the healing exercises had certain tragic characteristics. However, I would like to use this opportunity to reaffirm what we all know is truth. If known, of those lives that were lost, the tragedy is two-fold that those unfortunate persons lost the only opportunity that they will ever have to live in material life on a planet such as yours indwelt by a Father fragment and, second, that their companions were deprived of the pleasure of their company. It was certainly a sad event. There are no gaps in the Father's plan. His hands hold all and no soul slips through His fingers. However, notwithstanding the tragedy for personalities directly involved, it was seen that the experiment with earthly healing contained more possibility for harm than good and that the program was judged by its failures. I cannot dispute that. My knowledge on this matter is limited and my understanding is that that activity is suspended. That is my present understanding. Next question.

 

PAT: That is fine, thank you. Obviously, it doesn't satisfy because you still want to know regardless of the parameters, we still want to know. I understand what you are saying. In line with that, and you were talking about the parameters which you had in the hopes of the human heart, in early transcripts from Ham out in Utah, there was a great deal of discussion about healing and about offering advice to those who where quite ill as to what medical treatment to take and not to take, and things to do, and I was rather alarmed at that. Is this outside the parameters? I don't find this in any of the other teachings since then that I have had the privilege to read. I just wondered if you would comment on that.

 

WILL: Participants in that group, mortals of the realm, participating in that group, have some natural ability in these matters which we felt that we could capitalize on. However, it is so very difficult for the human to maintain the posture as a channel and no more, that the experiment went awry. A very innate ability of those humans just like the human participators you utilize in the transmissions for this group, their very willingness to cooperate is the same seed of contamination that allows the pollution of the message or for unanticipated errors to creep in. It is what I have described before, it is an upside and downside problem. For every plus, a minus. We felt upon observation that the apparent failure of the healing exercises had certain tragic characteristics. However, I would like to use this opportunity to reaffirm what we all know is truth. If known, of those lives that were lost, the tragedy is two-fold that those unfortunate persons lost the only opportunity that they will ever have to live in material life on a planet such as yours indwelt by a Father fragment and, second, that their companions were deprived of the pleasure of their company. It was certainly a sad event. There are no gaps in the Father's plan. His hands hold all and no soul slips through His fingers. However, notwithstanding the tragedy for personalities directly involved, it was seen that the experiment with earthly healing contained more possibility for harm than good and that the program was judged by its failures. I cannot dispute that. My knowledge on this matter is limited and my understanding is that that activity is suspended. That is my present understanding. Next question.

VINCENT: Will, this is Vincent again. I am going back to Chicago next week and the last time I was there, I met with Martin Myers and talked generally with him and I have had an urge to call him and take him to dinner and maybe speak a little bit more frankly about what is going on. I have had this feeling that maybe some of this was not mere coincidence that I was able to get in to him, but maybe there was some part of a plan that I should know about. For instance, should I work on trying to mediate the problem between the two factions? Should I tell them what is going on with the respective celestial teachers? Should I not even talk to the guy or is this something that you want to leave up to my judgment?

VINCENT: Will, this is Vincent again. I am going back to Chicago next week and the last time I was there, I met with Martin Myers and talked generally with him and I have had an urge to call him and take him to dinner and maybe speak a little bit more frankly about what is going on. I have had this feeling that maybe some of this was not mere coincidence that I was able to get in to him, but maybe there was some part of a plan that I should know about. For instance, should I work on trying to mediate the problem between the two factions? Should I tell them what is going on with the respective celestial teachers? Should I not even talk to the guy or is this something that you want to leave up to my judgment?