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Corona Del Mar California Teaching Group
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August 04, 1992
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===Topic: ''Your Relationship with the Adjuster''===
 
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===Group: [[Corona Del Mar TeaM]]===
Bertrand
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==Facilitators==
 
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===Teacher: [[Bertrand]] & [[Signa]]===
Your Relationship with the Adjuster
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===TR: [[Unknown]]===
 
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==Session==
Numerous Adjuster Questions Answered
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===Opening===
 
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Conscious Adjuster Contact
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Love on Mansonia
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BERTRAND
      
I am Bertrand. I am your teacher. It pleases me to welcome a new member to our group. We are growing and it is exciting. To see new believers, to have them join this project of planetary correction and uplift is truly heartening to us all. Prince Machiventa sends his greetings to this group and praises you for your efforts and your growth and urges you forward in this great effort. Tonight we will have a lesson by a visiting teacher.
 
I am Bertrand. I am your teacher. It pleases me to welcome a new member to our group. We are growing and it is exciting. To see new believers, to have them join this project of planetary correction and uplift is truly heartening to us all. Prince Machiventa sends his greetings to this group and praises you for your efforts and your growth and urges you forward in this great effort. Tonight we will have a lesson by a visiting teacher.
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SIGNA
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===Lesson===
 
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[Your Relationship With Your Adjuster]8/4/92
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SIGNA
      
Good evening, I am your teacher. I am Signa. I have come this evening to speak to you concerning your relationship with your Thought Adjuster. As you are aware, each child of this planet, if they are normal minded, receives their very own spark of the infinite Father at approximately 6 years of age. This has occurred since Pentecost. As you grow, your Thought Adjuster continues to impart universe knowledge, visualizations, guidance, the Father's love to you with the hope that eventually you and he will become one. It is a learning process. Each of your Adjusters has had previous experience indwelling mortals, and now they bring to you that vast experience and the knowledge of the grand universe that is there for the asking.
 
Good evening, I am your teacher. I am Signa. I have come this evening to speak to you concerning your relationship with your Thought Adjuster. As you are aware, each child of this planet, if they are normal minded, receives their very own spark of the infinite Father at approximately 6 years of age. This has occurred since Pentecost. As you grow, your Thought Adjuster continues to impart universe knowledge, visualizations, guidance, the Father's love to you with the hope that eventually you and he will become one. It is a learning process. Each of your Adjusters has had previous experience indwelling mortals, and now they bring to you that vast experience and the knowledge of the grand universe that is there for the asking.
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Your Adjuster is with you, except for very brief periods, from the moment he arrives to the moment of physical death. He is with you and works with your personality to create the eternal you, your soul. It is he who is the sculptor; it is he who is the poet, it is he who is the artist that helps to give that godly quality to your evolving soul. I thank you for the few moments I have had to speak with you. It is difficult for James at this time to understand all that I wish to impart but I will get better at this very new experience for me. I will return this teaching lesson to Bertrand.
 
Your Adjuster is with you, except for very brief periods, from the moment he arrives to the moment of physical death. He is with you and works with your personality to create the eternal you, your soul. It is he who is the sculptor; it is he who is the poet, it is he who is the artist that helps to give that godly quality to your evolving soul. I thank you for the few moments I have had to speak with you. It is difficult for James at this time to understand all that I wish to impart but I will get better at this very new experience for me. I will return this teaching lesson to Bertrand.
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BERTRAND
      
Good evening I am your teacher, I am Bertrand. We have had a visit by a new teacher, learning her new assignment of teaching this class on occasion. We welcome her, we thank her for her lesson. And I am sure, along with you, we welcome her into this teaching mission. Again, I wish to welcome our new student this evening and hope that we are able to impart such knowledge as will help him in his spiritual growth, as well as the rest of you. . . . .
 
Good evening I am your teacher, I am Bertrand. We have had a visit by a new teacher, learning her new assignment of teaching this class on occasion. We welcome her, we thank her for her lesson. And I am sure, along with you, we welcome her into this teaching mission. Again, I wish to welcome our new student this evening and hope that we are able to impart such knowledge as will help him in his spiritual growth, as well as the rest of you. . . . .
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STUDENT
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===Dialogue===
    
Bertrand, is Signa our other teacher? BERTRAND Yes.
 
Bertrand, is Signa our other teacher? BERTRAND Yes.
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[Adjuster Questions]8/4/92
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STUDENT: . . . . I have a question for Signa. Signa mentioned that the Thought Adjuster dated back to Pentecost, which is when I believe Jesus bestowed the Spirit of Truth. Did not Thought Adjusters exist prior to that time for our planet?
 
STUDENT: . . . . I have a question for Signa. Signa mentioned that the Thought Adjuster dated back to Pentecost, which is when I believe Jesus bestowed the Spirit of Truth. Did not Thought Adjusters exist prior to that time for our planet?
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My birth planet was generally in your local area astronomically speaking. I was involved in what you would term social work and the helping of less fortunate individuals, both in their physical needs and psychological spiritual needs. I had a family with three children. I passed on to the mansion worlds when I was approximately 158 of your years. I was involved in an accident of time whose nature, because of the difference in our worlds, would be difficult to explain. I have mastered the mansion worlds and have the high honor of being involved in this planetary mission. Many applied; few were chosen. It is an honor to be among you, you who are believers without seeing. We who have come from relatively normal planets of evolution are continually amazed at your faith, at your spiritual progress, at your belief. We applaud you and are here to urge you on toward a higher destiny. Does that help your inquisitive nature?
 
My birth planet was generally in your local area astronomically speaking. I was involved in what you would term social work and the helping of less fortunate individuals, both in their physical needs and psychological spiritual needs. I had a family with three children. I passed on to the mansion worlds when I was approximately 158 of your years. I was involved in an accident of time whose nature, because of the difference in our worlds, would be difficult to explain. I have mastered the mansion worlds and have the high honor of being involved in this planetary mission. Many applied; few were chosen. It is an honor to be among you, you who are believers without seeing. We who have come from relatively normal planets of evolution are continually amazed at your faith, at your spiritual progress, at your belief. We applaud you and are here to urge you on toward a higher destiny. Does that help your inquisitive nature?
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[Do some People Actually Have Conscious Adjuster Contact?]8/4/92
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. . . . What about other talents and genius and other forms of expression like the athlete and the intellectual?
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What about other talents and genius and other forms of expression like the athlete and the intellectual?
    
SIGNA:
 
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Much of human genius is hereditary. I am speaking in those terms of the sculpturing artistry and creation of the immortal soul. They are distinctly different.
 
Much of human genius is hereditary. I am speaking in those terms of the sculpturing artistry and creation of the immortal soul. They are distinctly different.
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. . . . There are inherent talents that individuals have that allow them to excel in one area or another, whether it be physical or mental. That ability does not necessarily indicate that they will have greater contact with their Thought Adjuster. There are those who you would describe as being lowly or ignorant, disadvantaged, who have marvelous contact with their Thought Adjuster.
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There are inherent talents that individuals have that allow them to excel in one area or another, whether it be physical or mental. That ability does not necessarily indicate that they will have greater contact with their Thought Adjuster. There are those who you would describe as being lowly or ignorant, disadvantaged, who have marvelous contact with their Thought Adjuster.
 
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[Love on Mansonia]8/4/92
      
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Friendship, sharing of experience. There is no time during your Paradise ascent when you are alone. You either have other ascenders with you, your guardian seraphim traveling with you; always will you have a companion. On the Havona worlds you will have a companion, on Paradise you will have a companion. Ascenders become lonely, disoriented, generally have a difficult time when they are alone. So the Paradise plan has provided for that reality. You are not alone. . . . .
 
Friendship, sharing of experience. There is no time during your Paradise ascent when you are alone. You either have other ascenders with you, your guardian seraphim traveling with you; always will you have a companion. On the Havona worlds you will have a companion, on Paradise you will have a companion. Ascenders become lonely, disoriented, generally have a difficult time when they are alone. So the Paradise plan has provided for that reality. You are not alone. . . . .
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[STILLNESS Problems]8/4/92
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Yes, that will be done.
 
Yes, that will be done.
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[To Get STILLNESS You Must Be Still & That Takes Practice]8/11/92
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Controlling your electro-chemical process is a difficult task. You may ask any of those present and they will also verify. All I can suggest is practice. It is like learning to walk, or learning to ride a bicycle. You must practice, and, as you practice, you will begin to notice that you have much better control. As I mentioned in my lesson, there are two sides. One is your practice, which is your continual prayer. The other side is the silence, where you are able to listen. Yes, it is difficult to quiet that mind that is incessantly yearning for expression. Even if you are able to quiet it for 5 seconds, that is good. The next time you try, perhaps it will be 6 seconds. Your experience of it will be akin to a growth. You may not see a day to day improvement, but over a period of time, you will see a definite improvement and your ability to pray and to listen will improve dramatically. But, you must practice.
 
Controlling your electro-chemical process is a difficult task. You may ask any of those present and they will also verify. All I can suggest is practice. It is like learning to walk, or learning to ride a bicycle. You must practice, and, as you practice, you will begin to notice that you have much better control. As I mentioned in my lesson, there are two sides. One is your practice, which is your continual prayer. The other side is the silence, where you are able to listen. Yes, it is difficult to quiet that mind that is incessantly yearning for expression. Even if you are able to quiet it for 5 seconds, that is good. The next time you try, perhaps it will be 6 seconds. Your experience of it will be akin to a growth. You may not see a day to day improvement, but over a period of time, you will see a definite improvement and your ability to pray and to listen will improve dramatically. But, you must practice.
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[Who Do You Check With To Answer Our Questions?]8/4/92
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We generally check with our immediate supervisor. While Ham is our school administrator as you have put it, we have other reporting lines and I have, for a lack of a better term, a chain of command that occasionally Bertrand or I must inquire of concerning sensitive issues. They are not here. I make a pause, and I have a channel of communication not too dissimilar to transmitting and receiving, that we use to make contact and relay the data and receive back confirmation.
 
We generally check with our immediate supervisor. While Ham is our school administrator as you have put it, we have other reporting lines and I have, for a lack of a better term, a chain of command that occasionally Bertrand or I must inquire of concerning sensitive issues. They are not here. I make a pause, and I have a channel of communication not too dissimilar to transmitting and receiving, that we use to make contact and relay the data and receive back confirmation.
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[Signa: We See Your Spiritual Light]8/492
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No, definitely not. That is your own perception of your own conscious mind. It in no way has effect upon your spiritual luminosity.
 
No, definitely not. That is your own perception of your own conscious mind. It in no way has effect upon your spiritual luminosity.
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[Just What Is The Super-conscious Mind?]8/4/92
      
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That is a difficult question to answer because it is different in each individual. Your conscious mind proceeds from day to day with your thought patterns, with your life. Your super-conscious mind, that part of you that has more or less contact with your Thought Adjuster, stands aloof and occasionally can reach down and touch part of you. And sometimes, your conscious mind can reach up and touch part of your super-conscious mind. Most individuals will not have that joining until you are on the morontia worlds, unfortunately. At this point, you must wait. That does not mean that you cannot have contact with your Adjuster, who works in the super-conscious mind level. By working with your Adjuster, you will be able to have better and better access to that super-conscious. You can work together.
 
That is a difficult question to answer because it is different in each individual. Your conscious mind proceeds from day to day with your thought patterns, with your life. Your super-conscious mind, that part of you that has more or less contact with your Thought Adjuster, stands aloof and occasionally can reach down and touch part of you. And sometimes, your conscious mind can reach up and touch part of your super-conscious mind. Most individuals will not have that joining until you are on the morontia worlds, unfortunately. At this point, you must wait. That does not mean that you cannot have contact with your Adjuster, who works in the super-conscious mind level. By working with your Adjuster, you will be able to have better and better access to that super-conscious. You can work together.
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[Child Abuse and Soul Death]8/4/92
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Did Caligastia and the rest have a chance to still, at the very end, to repent, after everything that had happened? Does soul death happen to that order of being?
 
Did Caligastia and the rest have a chance to still, at the very end, to repent, after everything that had happened? Does soul death happen to that order of being?
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[Did Caligastia Have A Last Chance?]8/4/92
      
BERTRAND
 
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They have no soul. They are created beings. They are not evolutionary beings. You have a soul that is created between the efforts of the Thought Adjuster and the personality. Caligastia did not possess a soul. He possessed a very high level of intelligence, a high mind; he was a Descending Son of God. He did choose not to continue. He did refuse all efforts to give him mercy. He was totally consumed by himself. He was totally nefarious. . . . .
 
They have no soul. They are created beings. They are not evolutionary beings. You have a soul that is created between the efforts of the Thought Adjuster and the personality. Caligastia did not possess a soul. He possessed a very high level of intelligence, a high mind; he was a Descending Son of God. He did choose not to continue. He did refuse all efforts to give him mercy. He was totally consumed by himself. He was totally nefarious. . . . .
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[Signa: Worship– You, the Adjuster, The Guardian]8/4/92
      
STUDENT When we worship the Father, does the Adjuster experience our worship of the Father, too, or does it stand aloof from that worship?
 
STUDENT When we worship the Father, does the Adjuster experience our worship of the Father, too, or does it stand aloof from that worship?
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So, in a way, our Adjuster worships himself? SIGNA He leads you.
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So, in a way, our Adjuster worships himself?
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He leads you.
    
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But participates in it? SIGNA Participates in helping you with your worship drive.
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But participates in it?  
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[Angel’s Names]8/4/92
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SIGNA Participates in helping you with your worship drive.
    
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I see. I have no answer for her at this time. . . . .
 
I see. I have no answer for her at this time. . . . .
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[How Do We Deal With Anti-Social Persons?]8/4/92
      
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Yes, it is frustrating to meet an individual like that, that you cannot reach, but understand, sometimes it is their job to create the light from within first. It is not inadequacy on your part for not being able to reach them. It is the veil in front of them that they are not able to see out of.
 
Yes, it is frustrating to meet an individual like that, that you cannot reach, but understand, sometimes it is their job to create the light from within first. It is not inadequacy on your part for not being able to reach them. It is the veil in front of them that they are not able to see out of.
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. . . . You have a strong desire to serve your brother and I can understand the frustration you must feel from time to time in being able to reach out and touch someone who you feel and see in your own heart that they need that shining God in front of them. But no matter how hard you try, and no matter how bright you try to shine, the wall is there, it is opaque. Move on to someone new.
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You have a strong desire to serve your brother and I can understand the frustration you must feel from time to time in being able to reach out and touch someone who you feel and see in your own heart that they need that shining God in front of them. But no matter how hard you try, and no matter how bright you try to shine, the wall is there, it is opaque. Move on to someone new.
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[Student Senses 2 Unseen Presences]8/4/92
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Okay. I have a curiosity question.
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Okay. I have a curiosity question. SIGNA I will try to satisfy your curiosity. (Laughter)
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I will try to satisfy your curiosity. (Laughter)
    
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I am sensing two other presences aside from yourself and Bertrand. Can you illuminate those feelings? SIGNA You are correct.
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I am sensing two other presences aside from yourself and Bertrand. Can you illuminate those feelings?  
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SIGNA You are correct.
    
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Your earth humor is enjoyable. STUDENT I am serious.
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Your earth humor is enjoyable.  
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STUDENT I am serious.
    
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I know that. Some individuals are able to feel spirit presence better than others. While James is able to transmit and receive, now, more than just one individual, he does not generally sense our presence. Albert is a fortunate individual. He has that sixth sense of being able to sense our presence. If you wish to know if we are around, ask Albert.
 
I know that. Some individuals are able to feel spirit presence better than others. While James is able to transmit and receive, now, more than just one individual, he does not generally sense our presence. Albert is a fortunate individual. He has that sixth sense of being able to sense our presence. If you wish to know if we are around, ask Albert.
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