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===Opening===
 
===Opening===
  
I am Bertrand. I am your teacher. It pleases me to welcome a new member to our group. We are growing and it is exciting. To see new believers, to have them join this project of planetary correction and uplift is truly heartening to us all. Prince Machiventa sends his greetings to this group and praises you for your efforts and your growth and urges you forward in this great effort. Tonight we will have a lesson by a visiting teacher.
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I am Bertrand. I am your [[teacher]]. It pleases me to welcome a new member to our group. We are [[growing]] and it is [[exciting]]. To see new believers, to have them join this project of [[planetary]] correction and uplift is truly heartening to us all. Prince [[Machiventa]] sends his greetings to this [[group]] and [[praises]] you for your [[efforts]] and your [[growth]] and urges you forward in this great effort. Tonight we will have a lesson by a visiting [[teacher]].
 
 
 
===Lesson===
 
===Lesson===
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===='''''[[Thought Adjusters]]'''''====
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Good evening, I am your [[teacher]]. I am [[Signa]]. I have come this evening to [[speak]] to you concerning your [[relationship]] with your [[Thought Adjuster]]. As you are [[aware]], each child of this planet, if they are [[normal]] minded, receives their very own [[spark]] of the [[infinite Father]] at approximately 6 years of age. This has occurred since [[Pentecost]]. As you grow, your [[Thought Adjuster]] continues to impart [[universe]] [[knowledge]], [[visualizations]], [[guidance]], [[the Father]]'s [[love]] to you with the [[hope]] that [[eventually]] you and he will become one. It is a learning [[process]]. Each of your [[Adjusters]] has had previous experience indwelling [[mortals]], and now they bring to you that vast [[experience]] and the [[knowledge]] of the [[grand universe]] that is there for the asking.
  
Good evening, I am your teacher. I am Signa. I have come this evening to speak to you concerning your relationship with your Thought Adjuster. As you are aware, each child of this planet, if they are normal minded, receives their very own spark of the infinite Father at approximately 6 years of age. This has occurred since Pentecost. As you grow, your Thought Adjuster continues to impart universe knowledge, visualizations, guidance, the Father's love to you with the hope that eventually you and he will become one. It is a learning process. Each of your Adjusters has had previous experience indwelling mortals, and now they bring to you that vast experience and the knowledge of the grand universe that is there for the asking.
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Your [[Thought Adjusters]] long to have direct [[contact]] with your earthly [[mind]]. They long to give you [[direction]]. They long to have you hear their [[voice]] speaking to you of [[the Father]]'s will. But for you it takes [[practice]]. It takes time; it takes [[commitment]]. But those of you who are [[diligent]] and seek to know the will of [[the Father]] and seek to [[communicate]] with your [[Adjuster]] will achieve that [[heart]]'s [[desire]]. Don't give up; it is possible. It will happen. When you have urges to [[react]] to life with [[spiritual]] [[thoughts]], with spiritual [[concepts]], that is your [[Adjuster]] trying to lead you. When you are led to [[service]] it is your [[Adjuster]] who is leading, carrying the banner of the Father before you both into [[glorious]] [[interaction]] with other [[mortals]].
  
Your Thought Adjusters long to have direct contact with your earthly mind. They long to give you direction. They long to have you hear their voice speaking to you of the Father's will. But for you it takes practice. It takes time; it takes commitment. But those of you who are diligent and seek to know the will of the Father and seek to communicate with your Adjuster will achieve that heart's desire. Don't give up; it is possible. It will happen. When you have urges to react to life with spiritual thoughts, with spiritual concepts, that is your Adjuster trying to lead you. When you are led to service it is your Adjuster who is leading, carrying the banner of the Father before you both into glorious interaction with other mortals.
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Your [[Adjuster]] is with you, except for very brief periods, from the [[moment]] he arrives to the moment of physical [[death]]. He is with you and works with your [[personality]] to create the [[eternal]] you, your [[soul]]. It is he who is the [[sculptor]]; it is he who is the [[poet]], it is he who is the artist that helps to give that godly [[quality]] to your [[evolving soul]]. I thank you for the few moments I have had to speak with you. It is [[difficult]] for James at this time to [[understand]] all that I wish to impart but I will get better at this very new [[experience]] for me. I will return this teaching lesson to Bertrand.
 
 
Your Adjuster is with you, except for very brief periods, from the moment he arrives to the moment of physical death. He is with you and works with your personality to create the eternal you, your soul. It is he who is the sculptor; it is he who is the poet, it is he who is the artist that helps to give that godly quality to your evolving soul. I thank you for the few moments I have had to speak with you. It is difficult for James at this time to understand all that I wish to impart but I will get better at this very new experience for me. I will return this teaching lesson to Bertrand.
 
 
 
Good evening I am your teacher, I am Bertrand. We have had a visit by a new teacher, learning her new assignment of teaching this class on occasion. We welcome her, we thank her for her lesson. And I am sure, along with you, we welcome her into this teaching mission. Again, I wish to welcome our new student this evening and hope that we are able to impart such knowledge as will help him in his spiritual growth, as well as the rest of you. . . . .
 
  
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Good evening I am your [[teacher]], I am Bertrand. We have had a [[visit]] by a new teacher, learning her new assignment of teaching this class on occasion. We [[welcome]] her, we thank her for her lesson. And I am sure, along with you, we welcome her into this [[teaching mission]]. Again, I wish to welcome our new [[student]] this evening and [[hope]] that we are able to impart such [[knowledge]] as will help him in his [[spiritual growth]], as well as the rest of you. . . . .
 
===Dialogue===
 
===Dialogue===
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Bertrand, is Signa our other [[teacher]]?
  
Bertrand, is Signa our other teacher? BERTRAND Yes.
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BERTRAND Yes.
 
 
STUDENT: . . . . I have a question for Signa. Signa mentioned that the Thought Adjuster dated back to Pentecost, which is when I believe Jesus bestowed the Spirit of Truth. Did not Thought Adjusters exist prior to that time for our planet?
 
 
 
SIGNA
 
 
 
Good evening, this is Signa. Yes, my comment was that Thought Adjusters were bestowed universally at Pentecost. Yes, they where bestowed prior to that time but not universally.
 
 
 
STUDENT
 
 
 
Along the same lines, you commented that we all experienced Adjusters. Is it true, that all of our Adjusters have had prior experience?
 
 
 
SIGNA
 
 
 
Yes. It is a rare occasion on Urantia to find a virgin adjuster. . . . .
 
 
 
[Signa: Her Personal Background]8/4/92
 
 
 
STUDENT
 
 
 
Welcome Signa. Are you a feminine person? SIGNA Yes.
 
 
 
STUDENT
 
 
 
And where do you hail from?
 
 
 
SIGNA
 
 
 
A planet in a star system not too distant from your system, in astronomical terms--much closer than my friend Bertrand.
 
 
 
STUDENT
 
 
 
But you are a mansion world ascender? SIGNA Oh, yes.
 
 
 
[SIGNA: More Biography]8/11/92
 
 
 
SIGNA
 
 
 
My birth planet was generally in your local area astronomically speaking. I was involved in what you would term social work and the helping of less fortunate individuals, both in their physical needs and psychological spiritual needs. I had a family with three children. I passed on to the mansion worlds when I was approximately 158 of your years. I was involved in an accident of time whose nature, because of the difference in our worlds, would be difficult to explain. I have mastered the mansion worlds and have the high honor of being involved in this planetary mission. Many applied; few were chosen. It is an honor to be among you, you who are believers without seeing. We who have come from relatively normal planets of evolution are continually amazed at your faith, at your spiritual progress, at your belief. We applaud you and are here to urge you on toward a higher destiny. Does that help your inquisitive nature?
 
 
 
STUDENT
 
 
 
I have a couple of Thought Adjuster questions, while Signa is here. Well I guess she'll be here all evening. Are there mortals today on Urantia who are conscious of contact with their Thought Adjusters the way you described that we could be striving for?
 
 
 
SIGNA
 
 
 
Yes, there are.
 
 
 
STUDENT
 
 
 
Is that rare or common?
 
 
 
SIGNA
 
 
 
Unfortunately, it is too rare. But, it is improving. With the reconnection of the circuits, certain universe energies are available to augment human contact with their Adjuster. So that it is on the upswing.
 
 
 
STUDENT
 
 
 
Do they know what's going on? I'm wondering, for instance, if you never read The Urantia Book but suddenly have contact with your Thought Adjuster but can't describe it, in your conscious mind. What do they think is going on when that does happen?
 
 
 
SIGNA
 
 
 
Most likely they believe they are in touch with higher spiritual forces. Indeed they are.
 
 
 
STUDENT
 
 
 
What about other talents and genius and other forms of expression like the athlete and the intellectual?
 
  
SIGNA:
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STUDENT: . . . . I have a question for Signa. Signa mentioned that the [[Thought Adjuster]] dated back to [[Pentecost]], which is when I believe [[Jesus]] bestowed the [[Spirit of Truth]]. Did not [[Thought Adjusters]] exist prior to that time for our [[planet]]?
  
Much of human genius is hereditary. I am speaking in those terms of the sculpturing artistry and creation of the immortal soul. They are distinctly different.
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SIGNA: Good evening, this is Signa. Yes, my comment was that [[Thought Adjusters]] were bestowed universally at [[Pentecost]]. Yes, they where bestowed prior to that time but not [[universally]].
  
There are inherent talents that individuals have that allow them to excel in one area or another, whether it be physical or mental. That ability does not necessarily indicate that they will have greater contact with their Thought Adjuster. There are those who you would describe as being lowly or ignorant, disadvantaged, who have marvelous contact with their Thought Adjuster.
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STUDENT: Along the same lines, you commented that we all (.....) [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_109#109:3._RELATION_OF_ADJUSTERS_TO_MORTAL_TYPES experienced Adjusters]. Is it true, that all of our [[Adjusters]] have had prior [[experience]]?
  
STUDENT
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SIGNA: Yes. It is a rare occasion on [[Urantia]] to find a [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_107#107:2._CLASSIFICATION_OF_ADJUSTERS virgin adjuster]. . . . .
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*Signa: Her Personal Background
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STUDENT: Welcome Signa. Are you a [[feminine]] [[person]]?
  
I presume there are not marriages on the mansion world-- that is no pairing of the sexes as we have on Urantia. What takes its place in terms of intimate relationships?
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SIGNA Yes.
  
SIGNA
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STUDENT: And where do you hail from?
  
There is no procreation on the mansion worlds. That is not to say that there is no close physical association.
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SIGNA: A [[planet]] in a [[Solar System|star system]] not too distant from your system, in astronomical terms--much closer than my friend Bertrand.
  
STUDENT
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STUDENT: But you are a [[mansion world]] ascender?
  
Is there a pairing of feminine, masculine, or passive and aggressive?
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:SIGNA Oh, yes.
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*SIGNA: More Biography
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SIGNA: My [[birth]] [[planet]] was generally in your local area astronomically speaking. I was involved in what you would term [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_work social work] and the helping of less fortunate [[individuals]], both in their [[physical]] needs and [[psychological]] [[spiritual]] needs. I had a [[family]] with three [[children]]. I passed on to the [[mansion worlds]] when I was approximately 158 of your years. I was involved in an [[accident]] of time whose nature, because of the [[difference]] in our worlds, would be difficult to [[explain]]. I have mastered the [[mansion worlds]] and have the high [[honor]] of being involved in this [[Teaching Mission|planetary mission]]. Many applied; few were chosen. It is an [[honor]] to be among you, you who are [[Agondonters|believers without seeing]]. We who have come from [[relatively]] [[normal]] [[Inhabited worlds|planets of evolution]] are continually amazed at your [[faith]], at your [[spiritual progress]], at your [[belief]]. We [[applaud]] you and are here to urge you on toward a higher [[destiny]]. Does that help your [[inquisitive]] nature?
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===='''''[[Thought Adjusters]]'''''====
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STUDENT: I have a couple of [[Thought Adjuster]] questions, while Signa is here. Well I guess she'll be here all evening. Are there [[mortals]] today on [[Urantia]] who are [[conscious]] of [[contact]] with their [[Thought Adjusters]] the way you [[described]] that we could be striving for?
  
SIGNA
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SIGNA: Yes, there are.
  
Yes. If you will refer to the mansion world paper where it discusses the adjustments necessary to certain ascenders, because of some sexual deprivation on their planet of nativity they are assigned to live some period of time with the families of the material sons and daughters to help make adjustments for losses that may have occurred. So, you can look in that area for further information.
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STUDENT: Is that rare or common?
  
STUDENT
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SIGNA: Unfortunately, it is too rare. But, it is improving. With the reconnection of the [[circuits]], certain [[universe]] [[energies]] are available to augment human [[contact]] with their [[Adjuster]]. So that it is on the upswing.
  
You don't get to have, as your pair, your husband of this world...or do you?
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STUDENT: Do they know what's going on? I'm wondering, for instance, if you never [[read]] The [[Urantia Book]] but suddenly have [[contact]] with your [[Thought Adjuster]] but can't [[describe]] it, in your [[conscious]] [[mind]]. What do they think is going on when that does happen?
  
SIGNA
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SIGNA: Most likely they [[believe]] they are in [[touch]] with higher [[spiritual]] [[forces]]. Indeed they are.
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===='''''[[Genius]]'''''====
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STUDENT: What about other [[talents]] and [[genius]] and other forms of [[expression]] like the [[athlete]] and the [[intellectual]]?
  
It is possible, though not usually likely. Although anything is a possibility.
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SIGNA: Much of human [[genius]] is [[hereditary]]. I am speaking in those terms of the sculpturing artistry and [[creation]] of the immortal [[soul]]. They are distinctly [[different]].
  
STUDENT
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There are [[inherent]] [[talents]] that [[individuals]] have that allow them to excel in one area or another, whether it be [[physical]] or [[mental]]. That ability does not necessarily indicate that they will have greater [[contact]] with their [[Thought Adjuster]]. There are those who you would [[describe]] as being lowly or [[ignorant]], disadvantaged, who have marvelous contact with their [[Thought Adjuster]].
  
Is that a working group? Is that why it is formed? What is the purpose of that union, then, if there is no procreation?
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===='''''[[Mansion Worlds]]'''''====
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STUDENT: I presume there are not [[marriages]] on the [[mansion world]]-- that is no pairing of the [[sexes]] as we have on [[Urantia]]. What takes its place in terms of [[intimate]] [[relationships]]?
  
SIGNA
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SIGNA: There is no procreation on the [[mansion worlds]]. That is not to say that there is no close [[physical]] [[association]].
  
Friendship, sharing of experience. There is no time during your Paradise ascent when you are alone. You either have other ascenders with you, your guardian seraphim traveling with you; always will you have a companion. On the Havona worlds you will have a companion, on Paradise you will have a companion. Ascenders become lonely, disoriented, generally have a difficult time when they are alone. So the Paradise plan has provided for that reality. You are not alone. . . . .
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STUDENT: Is there a pairing of [[feminine]], [[masculine]], or passive and aggressive?
  
STUDENT
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SIGNA: Yes. If you will refer to the [[Paper 47 - The Seven Mansion Worlds|mansion world paper]] where it discusses the [[adjustments]] necessary to certain ascenders, because of some [[sexual]] deprivation on their planet of [[nativity]] they are assigned to live some period of time with the families of the Material Sons and Daughters to help make [[adjustments]] for losses that may have occurred. So, you can look in that area for further [[information]].
  
I am really having a problem maintaining Stillness, and trying to keep all of my electro-chemical mind activities out of the way. I'd really like to be able to acquire Stillness and to feel like I am doing a good job meditating. Could you check with my Thought Adjuster, since he knows me so well, and, maybe, at some time get back with me, and tell me exactly what it is that I am doing wrong, and if there is anything that he wants me to do.
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STUDENT: You don't get to have, as your pair, your [[husband]] of this world...or do you?
  
SIGNA
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SIGNA: It is possible, though not usually likely. Although anything is a [[possibility]].
  
Yes, that will be done.
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STUDENT: Is that a working [[group]]? Is that why it is formed? What is the purpose of that union, then, if there is no procreation?
  
STUDENT
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SIGNA: [[Friendship]], [[sharing]] of [[experience]]. There is no time during your [[Paradise]] ascent when you are [[alone]]. You either have other [[ascenders]] with you, your [[guardian seraphim]] traveling with you; always will you have a [[companion]]. On the [[Havona]] worlds you will have a [[companion]], on [[Paradise]] you will have a companion. [[Ascenders]] become [[lonely]], disoriented, generally have a [[difficult]] time when they are [[alone]]. So the [[Paradise]] [[plan]] has provided for that [[reality]]. You are not [[alone]]. . . . .
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===='''''[[Stillness]]'''''====
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STUDENT: I am really having a [[problem]] maintaining [[Stillness]], and trying to keep all of my electro-[[chemical]] [[mind]] activities out of the way. I'd really like to be able to acquire [[Stillness]] and to [[feel]] like I am doing a good job [[meditating]]. Could you check with my [[Thought Adjuster]], since he knows me so well, and, maybe, at some time get back with me, and tell me exactly what it is that I am doing wrong, and if there is anything that he wants me to do.
  
Sometimes it's hard for me to still myself and to control my energy, and I was wondering if you might say something about that?
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SIGNA: Yes, that will be done.
  
BERTRAND
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STUDENT: Sometimes it's hard for me to still myself and to [[control]] my [[energy]], and I was [[wondering]] if you might say something about that?
  
Controlling your electro-chemical process is a difficult task. You may ask any of those present and they will also verify. All I can suggest is practice. It is like learning to walk, or learning to ride a bicycle. You must practice, and, as you practice, you will begin to notice that you have much better control. As I mentioned in my lesson, there are two sides. One is your practice, which is your continual prayer. The other side is the silence, where you are able to listen. Yes, it is difficult to quiet that mind that is incessantly yearning for expression. Even if you are able to quiet it for 5 seconds, that is good. The next time you try, perhaps it will be 6 seconds. Your experience of it will be akin to a growth. You may not see a day to day improvement, but over a period of time, you will see a definite improvement and your ability to pray and to listen will improve dramatically. But, you must practice.
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BERTRAND: [[Controlling]] your [[electro]]-[[chemical]] [[process]] is a [[difficult]] task. You may ask any of those present and they will also verify. All I can suggest is [[practice]]. It is like learning to walk, or learning to ride a bicycle. You must [[practice]], and, as you practice, you will begin to notice that you have much better [[control]]. As I mentioned in my lesson, there are two sides. One is your [[practice]], which is your continual [[prayer]]. The other side is the [[silence]], where you are able to [[listen]]. Yes, it is difficult to [[quiet]] that [[mind]] that is incessantly yearning for [[expression]]. Even if you are able to [[quiet]] it for 5 seconds, that is [[good]]. The next time you try, perhaps it will be 6 seconds. Your [[experience]] of it will be akin to a [[growth]]. You may not see a day to day improvement, but over a period of time, you will see a definite improvement and your [[ability]] to [[pray]] and to [[listen]] will improve dramatically. But, you must [[practice]].
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===='''''[[Authority]]'''''====
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STUDENT: My question is this--when you pause when we ask a [[question]] and you are checking to see if you can answer our question, I'd like to know who it is that you are checking with, and if that [[personality]] [[presence]] is also here in the room?
  
STUDENT
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SIGNA: We generally check with our immediate supervisor. While [[Ham]] is our school [[administrator]] as you have put it, we have other reporting lines and I have, for a lack of a better term, a chain of [[command]] that occasionally [[Bertrand]] or I must [[inquire]] of concerning [[sensitive]] issues. They are not here. I make a pause, and I have a [[channel]] of communication not too dissimilar to [[transmitting and receiving]], that we use to make [[contact]] and relay the data and receive back [[confirmation]].
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===='''''[[Teacher Contact]]''''', '''''[[Vision]]''''' ====
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STUDENT: Knowing that you are physically in this room with us, do you have eyes with which to see us, do you see our [[facial]] [[expressions]]? Like, some of the expressions that we relay back and forth tell us a lot about our [[thoughts]] and our [[feelings]], and I am wondering if you are [[sensitive]] to these looks also?
  
My question is this--when you pause when we ask a question and you are checking to see if you can answer our question, I'd like to know who it is that you are checking with, and if that personality presence is also here in the room?
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SIGNA: It is [[difficult]] for me to describe the means by which our [[senses]] [[perceive]] the [[surroundings]] here. Yes, we do [[perceive]] each of you. We perceive your [[spirit]] [[luminosity]]; we perceive your individual [[spirit]] [[presences]]. There is a [[glow]] emanating that we [[perceive]] from your [[soul]], we hear your [[responses]] and pick up your [[vibrations]].
  
SIGNA
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STUDENT: Do you have eyes though?
  
We generally check with our immediate supervisor. While Ham is our school administrator as you have put it, we have other reporting lines and I have, for a lack of a better term, a chain of command that occasionally Bertrand or I must inquire of concerning sensitive issues. They are not here. I make a pause, and I have a channel of communication not too dissimilar to transmitting and receiving, that we use to make contact and relay the data and receive back confirmation.
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SIGNA: Physical apparatus like you--not exactly. We have [[morontia]] bodies; we have [[light]] sensors.
  
STUDENT
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STUDENT: Signa, when we are down, when we are not as [[spiritually]] [[fragrant]] as we are in other times, does our spirit [[luminosity]] dim then?
  
Knowing that you are physically in this room with us, do you have eyes with which to see us, do you see our facial expressions? Like, some of the expressions that we relay back and forth tell us a lot about our thoughts and our feelings, and I am wondering if you are sensitive to these looks also?
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SIGNA: No, definitely not. That is your own [[perception]] of your own [[conscious]] mind. It in no way has effect upon your [[spiritual]] [[luminosity]].
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===='''''[[Superconsciousness]]'''''====
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STUDENT: I have a [[conscious]] [[mind]] question. (Laughter) In one of the other lessons you said there was some [[complex]] [[concept]] being described that everyone seemed to be having [[difficulty]] with, and Bertrand said, "the [[superconscious]] mind understood the lesson in all of you." When does or will our conscious mind have access to the accumulated knowledge of the [[superconscious]] mind?
  
SIGNA
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SIGNA: That is a difficult question to answer because it is [[different]] in each [[individual]]. Your [[conscious]] [[mind]] proceeds from day to day with your [[thought]] patterns, with your life. Your [[super-conscious]] mind, that part of you that has more or less [[contact]] with your [[Thought Adjuster]], stands aloof and occasionally can reach down and [[touch]] part of you. And sometimes, your [[conscious]] mind can reach up and [[touch]] part of your [[super-conscious]] mind. Most individuals will not have that joining until you are on the [[morontia worlds]], unfortunately. At this point, you must wait. That does not mean that you cannot have [[contact]] with your [[Adjuster]], who works in the [[super-conscious]] mind level. By working with your [[Adjuster]], you will be able to have better and better [[access]] to that [[super-conscious]]. You can work [[together]].
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===='''''[[Death]]'''''====
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STUDENT: Bertrand, you had mentioned in one of the earlier lessons that we are [[judged]] on our [[motives]]. If a child is really [[abused]] can their motives be a result of them being abused to the point where they become [[evil]], and cannot turn back? Like a [[soul]] [[death]]?[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=112:3_The_Phenomenon_of_Death]
  
It is difficult for me to describe the means by which our senses perceive the surroundings here. Yes, we do perceive each of you. We perceive your spirit luminosity; we perceive your individual spirit presences. There is a glow emanating that we perceive from your soul, we hear your responses and pick up your vibrations.
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BERTRAND: This is Bertrand. You [[speak]] of one of the more gross and inhumane [[human]] [[traits]] that occurs in some [[families]] where a child will be [[abused]] by a parent or some kin or perhaps by even someone not associated with the [[family]], and it will leave lasting marks, marks that will be carried on this [[planet]] and into the next, on into the [[morontia]] [[experience]]. It is a travesty; it is very sad to watch. It is almost unbearable to see that type of animalistic [[behavior]] in such a [[potential]] [[mind]]. That [[individual]] may suffer in those [[atrocities]] for its entire life and on into the [[morontia]] [[ascendent career]], but there are many, many systems, universe helpers, [[love]], [[mercy]], [[understanding]], every single amount of universe [[energy]] that can be...with the [[effort]] going to help to erase what has been done. Does that help to answer your question?
  
STUDENT
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STUDENT: Then why would any [[body]] not [[choose]] to go on to have [[eternal]] life?
  
Do you have eyes though?
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BERTRAND: I [[honestly]] [[wish]] I could answer that question. I don't know why. There are [[individuals]] who fail to seek to know [[God]], who fail the [[leadings]] of their [[Adjusters]]. With such a powerful and [[wonderful]] [[spark]] given to every [[normal]] [[mind]], it is not easy to [[understand]] how that can happen. But take [[heart]], it is not that common. It is most common to carry on, it is uncommon to not to carry on from [[this planet]].
  
SIGNA
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STUDENT: Did [[Caligastia]] and the rest have a [[chance]] to still, at the very end, to [[repent]], after everything that had happened? Does [[soul death]] happen to that order of [[being]]?
  
Physical apparatus like you--not exactly. We have morontia bodies; we have light sensors.
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BERTRAND: They have no [[soul]]. They are created beings. They are not [[evolutionary]] [[beings]]. You have a [[soul]] that is created between the [[efforts]] of the [[Thought Adjuster]] and the [[personality]]. [[Caligastia]] did not possess a [[soul]]. He possessed a very high level of [[intelligence]], a high [[mind]]; he was a [[Descending Son of God]]. He did [[choose]] not to continue. He did refuse all [[efforts]] to give him [[mercy]]. He was totally consumed by himself. He was totally [[nefarious]]. . . . .
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===='''''[[Worship]]'''''====
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STUDENT: When we [[worship]] [[the Father]], does the [[Adjuster]] [[experience]] our [[worship]] of [[the Father]], too, or does it stand aloof from that [[worship]]?
  
STUDENT
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SIGNA: This is Signa. Yes, your [[Thought Adjuster]] is most delighted to [[participate]] in your [[worship]] of [[the Father]], and, in some cases, helps to [[lead]] you in that [[worship]]. Your [[Guardian Angel]] also joins you in that [[worship]], so, in [[essence]], there are [[three]] of you.
  
Signa, when we are down, when we are not as spiritually fragrant as we are in other times, does our spirit luminosity dim then?
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STUDENT: So, in a way, our [[Adjuster]] [[worships]] himself?
  
SIGNA
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SIGNA: He [[leads]] you.
  
No, definitely not. That is your own perception of your own conscious mind. It in no way has effect upon your spiritual luminosity.
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STUDENT: But [[participates]] in it?
  
STUDENT
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SIGNA: Participates in helping you with your [[worship]] drive.
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===='''''[[Guardian Angels]]'''''====
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STUDENT: Do you know the [[names]] of our [[Guardian Angels]]? Our little daughter was [[wondering]] if that is something that is known and if she could find out the name of her [[guardian angel]]?
  
I have a conscious mind question. (Laughter) In one of the other lessons you said there was some complex concept being described that everyone seemed to be having difficulty with, and Bertrand said, "the superconscious mind understood the lesson in all of you." When does or will our conscious mind have access to the accumulated knowledge of the superconscious mind?
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SIGNA: At this time, [[Guardian Angels]] are known by [[numbers]].
  
SIGNA
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STUDENT: She wanted to know the [[number]] of hers...anything. (LAUGHTER)
  
That is a difficult question to answer because it is different in each individual. Your conscious mind proceeds from day to day with your thought patterns, with your life. Your super-conscious mind, that part of you that has more or less contact with your Thought Adjuster, stands aloof and occasionally can reach down and touch part of you. And sometimes, your conscious mind can reach up and touch part of your super-conscious mind. Most individuals will not have that joining until you are on the morontia worlds, unfortunately. At this point, you must wait. That does not mean that you cannot have contact with your Adjuster, who works in the super-conscious mind level. By working with your Adjuster, you will be able to have better and better access to that super-conscious. You can work together.
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SIGNA: I see. I have no answer for her at this time. . . . .
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STUDENT: When we run across an [[individual]] displaying an [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder anti-social personality], and we are [[aware]] of instead an individual with a [[Thought Adjuster]], by what [[technique]] can we pierce that veil and help him or her [[recognize]] the time when they chose that [[behavior]] which will provide for [[self]]-[[preservation]], make a new step toward life and improve their [[future]]?
  
STUDENT
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SIGNA: I think I [[understand]] your [[question]]. Sometimes you are able to act in a [[manner]] that will allow you through your [[conversation]], through your questioning, through your [[interaction]] with another [[individual]], to illuminate [[the Father]] to them, to help them to see the Father who lives within them and the Father that lives in all others. Sometimes you are able to do this. There are those also in which the veil of [[darkness]] hangs so heavy in front of their eyes that they are unable to see your [[light]] and it is those [[individuals]] whose inner [[light]] must shine first. They will have to be led from within before they will be able to see from without.
  
Bertrand, you had mentioned in one of the earlier lessons that we are judged on our motives. If a child is really abused can their motives be a result of them being abused to the point where they become evil, and cannot turn back? Like a soul death?
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Yes, it is [[frustrating]] to meet an [[individual]] like that, that you cannot reach, but [[understand]], sometimes it is their job to create the [[light]] from within first. It is not inadequacy on your part for not being able to reach them. It is the veil in front of them that they are not able to see out of.
  
BERTRAND
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You have a strong [[desire]] to serve your brother and I can [[understand]] the [[frustration]] you must feel from time to time in being able to reach out and [[touch]] someone who you [[feel]] and see in your own [[heart]] that they need that shining [[God]] in front of them. But no matter how hard you try, and no matter how bright you try to shine, the wall is there, it is opaque. Move on to someone new.
  
This is Bertrand. You speak of one of the more gross and inhumane human traits that occurs in some families where a child will be abused by a parent or some kin or perhaps by even someone not associated with the family, and it will leave lasting marks, marks that will be carried on this planet and into the next, on into the morontia experience. It is a travesty; it is very sad to watch. It is almost unbearable to see that type of animalistic behavior in such a potential mind. That individual may suffer in those atrocities for its entire life and on into the morontia ascendent career, but there are many, many systems, universe helpers, love, mercy, understanding, every single amount of universe energy that can be...with the effort going to help to erase what has been done. Does that help to answer your question?
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STUDENT: Okay. I have a [[curiosity]] question.  
  
STUDENT
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SIGNA: I will try to [[satisfy]] your curiosity. ([[Laughter]])
  
Then why would any body not choose to go on to have eternal life?
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STUDENT: I am sensing two other [[presences]] aside from yourself and Bertrand. Can you [[illuminate]] those [[feelings]]?  
  
BERTRAND
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SIGNA: You are correct.
  
I honestly wish I could answer that question. I don't know why. There are individuals who fail to seek to know God, who fail the leadings of their Adjusters. With such a powerful and wonderful spark given to every normal mind, it is not easy to understand how that can happen. But take heart, it is not that common. It is most common to carry on, it is uncommon to not to carry on from this planet.
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STUDENT: Can we be introduced to them?
  
STUDENT
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SIGNA: One moment. (pause) I am sorry, they [[wish]] to remain [[anonymous]] at this time, though at some other meeting they will make their [[presence]] known.
  
Did Caligastia and the rest have a chance to still, at the very end, to repent, after everything that had happened? Does soul death happen to that order of being?
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STUDENT: Okay, I [[understand]].
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STUDENT: I would like to ask what it is that Albert has that we don't, [[physically]], that I don't have, and I want it. (Much [[laughter]]) Everyday I kind of waited to [[feel]] something.
  
BERTRAND
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SIGNA: Your earth [[humor]] is enjoyable.  
 
 
They have no soul. They are created beings. They are not evolutionary beings. You have a soul that is created between the efforts of the Thought Adjuster and the personality. Caligastia did not possess a soul. He possessed a very high level of intelligence, a high mind; he was a Descending Son of God. He did choose not to continue. He did refuse all efforts to give him mercy. He was totally consumed by himself. He was totally nefarious. . . . .
 
 
 
STUDENT When we worship the Father, does the Adjuster experience our worship of the Father, too, or does it stand aloof from that worship?
 
 
 
SIGNA
 
 
 
This is Signa. Yes, your Thought Adjuster is most delighted to participate in your worship of the Father, and, in some cases, helps to lead you in that worship. Your Guardian Angel also joins you in that worship, so, in essence, there are three of you.
 
 
 
STUDENT
 
 
 
So, in a way, our Adjuster worships himself?
 
 
 
SIGNA
 
 
 
He leads you.
 
 
 
STUDENT
 
 
 
But participates in it?
 
 
 
SIGNA Participates in helping you with your worship drive.
 
 
 
STUDENT
 
 
 
Do you know the names of our Guardian Angels? Our little daughter was wondering if that is something that is known and if she could find out the name of her guardian angel?
 
 
 
SIGNA
 
 
 
At this time, Guardian Angels are known by numbers.
 
 
 
STUDENT
 
 
 
She wanted to know the number of hers...anything. (LAUGHTER)
 
 
 
SIGNA
 
 
 
I see. I have no answer for her at this time. . . . .
 
 
 
STUDENT
 
 
 
When we run across an individual displaying an anti-social personality, and we are aware of instead an individual with a Thought Adjuster, by what technique can we pierce that veil and help him or her recognize the time when they chose that behavior which will provide for self-preservation, make a new step toward life and improve their future?
 
 
 
SIGNA
 
 
 
I think I understand your question. Sometimes you are able to act in a manner that will allow you through your conversation, through your questioning, through your interaction with another individual, to illuminate the Father to them, to help them to see the Father who lives within them and the Father that lives in all others. Sometimes you are able to do this. There are those also in which the veil of darkness hangs so heavy in front of their eyes that they are unable to see your light and it is those individuals whose inner light must shine first. They will have to be led from within before they will be able to see from without.
 
 
 
Yes, it is frustrating to meet an individual like that, that you cannot reach, but understand, sometimes it is their job to create the light from within first. It is not inadequacy on your part for not being able to reach them. It is the veil in front of them that they are not able to see out of.
 
 
 
You have a strong desire to serve your brother and I can understand the frustration you must feel from time to time in being able to reach out and touch someone who you feel and see in your own heart that they need that shining God in front of them. But no matter how hard you try, and no matter how bright you try to shine, the wall is there, it is opaque. Move on to someone new.
 
 
 
STUDENT
 
 
 
Okay. I have a curiosity question.
 
 
 
SIGNA
 
 
 
I will try to satisfy your curiosity. (Laughter)
 
 
 
STUDENT
 
 
 
I am sensing two other presences aside from yourself and Bertrand. Can you illuminate those feelings?
 
 
 
SIGNA You are correct.
 
 
 
STUDENT
 
 
 
Can we be introduced to them?
 
 
 
SIGNA
 
 
 
One moment. (pause) I am sorry, they wish to remain anonymous at this time, though at some other meeting they will make their presence known.
 
 
 
STUDENT
 
 
 
Okay, I understand.
 
 
 
STUDENT
 
 
 
I would like to ask what it is that Albert has that we don't, physically, that I don't have, and I want it. (Much laughter) Everyday I kind of waited to feel something.
 
 
 
SIGNA
 
 
 
Your earth humor is enjoyable.  
 
  
 
STUDENT I am serious.
 
STUDENT I am serious.
  
SIGNA
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Topic: Your Relationship with the Adjuster

Group: Corona Del Mar TeaM

Facilitators

Teacher: Bertrand & Signa

TR: Unknown

Session

Opening

I am Bertrand. I am your teacher. It pleases me to welcome a new member to our group. We are growing and it is exciting. To see new believers, to have them join this project of planetary correction and uplift is truly heartening to us all. Prince Machiventa sends his greetings to this group and praises you for your efforts and your growth and urges you forward in this great effort. Tonight we will have a lesson by a visiting teacher.

Lesson

Thought Adjusters

Good evening, I am your teacher. I am Signa. I have come this evening to speak to you concerning your relationship with your Thought Adjuster. As you are aware, each child of this planet, if they are normal minded, receives their very own spark of the infinite Father at approximately 6 years of age. This has occurred since Pentecost. As you grow, your Thought Adjuster continues to impart universe knowledge, visualizations, guidance, the Father's love to you with the hope that eventually you and he will become one. It is a learning process. Each of your Adjusters has had previous experience indwelling mortals, and now they bring to you that vast experience and the knowledge of the grand universe that is there for the asking.

Your Thought Adjusters long to have direct contact with your earthly mind. They long to give you direction. They long to have you hear their voice speaking to you of the Father's will. But for you it takes practice. It takes time; it takes commitment. But those of you who are diligent and seek to know the will of the Father and seek to communicate with your Adjuster will achieve that heart's desire. Don't give up; it is possible. It will happen. When you have urges to react to life with spiritual thoughts, with spiritual concepts, that is your Adjuster trying to lead you. When you are led to service it is your Adjuster who is leading, carrying the banner of the Father before you both into glorious interaction with other mortals.

Your Adjuster is with you, except for very brief periods, from the moment he arrives to the moment of physical death. He is with you and works with your personality to create the eternal you, your soul. It is he who is the sculptor; it is he who is the poet, it is he who is the artist that helps to give that godly quality to your evolving soul. I thank you for the few moments I have had to speak with you. It is difficult for James at this time to understand all that I wish to impart but I will get better at this very new experience for me. I will return this teaching lesson to Bertrand.

Good evening I am your teacher, I am Bertrand. We have had a visit by a new teacher, learning her new assignment of teaching this class on occasion. We welcome her, we thank her for her lesson. And I am sure, along with you, we welcome her into this teaching mission. Again, I wish to welcome our new student this evening and hope that we are able to impart such knowledge as will help him in his spiritual growth, as well as the rest of you. . . . .

Dialogue

Bertrand, is Signa our other teacher?

BERTRAND Yes.

STUDENT: . . . . I have a question for Signa. Signa mentioned that the Thought Adjuster dated back to Pentecost, which is when I believe Jesus bestowed the Spirit of Truth. Did not Thought Adjusters exist prior to that time for our planet?

SIGNA: Good evening, this is Signa. Yes, my comment was that Thought Adjusters were bestowed universally at Pentecost. Yes, they where bestowed prior to that time but not universally.

STUDENT: Along the same lines, you commented that we all (.....) experienced Adjusters. Is it true, that all of our Adjusters have had prior experience?

SIGNA: Yes. It is a rare occasion on Urantia to find a virgin adjuster. . . . .

  • Signa: Her Personal Background

STUDENT: Welcome Signa. Are you a feminine person?

SIGNA Yes.

STUDENT: And where do you hail from?

SIGNA: A planet in a star system not too distant from your system, in astronomical terms--much closer than my friend Bertrand.

STUDENT: But you are a mansion world ascender?

SIGNA Oh, yes.
  • SIGNA: More Biography

SIGNA: My birth planet was generally in your local area astronomically speaking. I was involved in what you would term social work and the helping of less fortunate individuals, both in their physical needs and psychological spiritual needs. I had a family with three children. I passed on to the mansion worlds when I was approximately 158 of your years. I was involved in an accident of time whose nature, because of the difference in our worlds, would be difficult to explain. I have mastered the mansion worlds and have the high honor of being involved in this planetary mission. Many applied; few were chosen. It is an honor to be among you, you who are believers without seeing. We who have come from relatively normal planets of evolution are continually amazed at your faith, at your spiritual progress, at your belief. We applaud you and are here to urge you on toward a higher destiny. Does that help your inquisitive nature?

Thought Adjusters

STUDENT: I have a couple of Thought Adjuster questions, while Signa is here. Well I guess she'll be here all evening. Are there mortals today on Urantia who are conscious of contact with their Thought Adjusters the way you described that we could be striving for?

SIGNA: Yes, there are.

STUDENT: Is that rare or common?

SIGNA: Unfortunately, it is too rare. But, it is improving. With the reconnection of the circuits, certain universe energies are available to augment human contact with their Adjuster. So that it is on the upswing.

STUDENT: Do they know what's going on? I'm wondering, for instance, if you never read The Urantia Book but suddenly have contact with your Thought Adjuster but can't describe it, in your conscious mind. What do they think is going on when that does happen?

SIGNA: Most likely they believe they are in touch with higher spiritual forces. Indeed they are.

Genius

STUDENT: What about other talents and genius and other forms of expression like the athlete and the intellectual?

SIGNA: Much of human genius is hereditary. I am speaking in those terms of the sculpturing artistry and creation of the immortal soul. They are distinctly different.

There are inherent talents that individuals have that allow them to excel in one area or another, whether it be physical or mental. That ability does not necessarily indicate that they will have greater contact with their Thought Adjuster. There are those who you would describe as being lowly or ignorant, disadvantaged, who have marvelous contact with their Thought Adjuster.

Mansion Worlds

STUDENT: I presume there are not marriages on the mansion world-- that is no pairing of the sexes as we have on Urantia. What takes its place in terms of intimate relationships?

SIGNA: There is no procreation on the mansion worlds. That is not to say that there is no close physical association.

STUDENT: Is there a pairing of feminine, masculine, or passive and aggressive?

SIGNA: Yes. If you will refer to the mansion world paper where it discusses the adjustments necessary to certain ascenders, because of some sexual deprivation on their planet of nativity they are assigned to live some period of time with the families of the Material Sons and Daughters to help make adjustments for losses that may have occurred. So, you can look in that area for further information.

STUDENT: You don't get to have, as your pair, your husband of this world...or do you?

SIGNA: It is possible, though not usually likely. Although anything is a possibility.

STUDENT: Is that a working group? Is that why it is formed? What is the purpose of that union, then, if there is no procreation?

SIGNA: Friendship, sharing of experience. There is no time during your Paradise ascent when you are alone. You either have other ascenders with you, your guardian seraphim traveling with you; always will you have a companion. On the Havona worlds you will have a companion, on Paradise you will have a companion. Ascenders become lonely, disoriented, generally have a difficult time when they are alone. So the Paradise plan has provided for that reality. You are not alone. . . . .

Stillness

STUDENT: I am really having a problem maintaining Stillness, and trying to keep all of my electro-chemical mind activities out of the way. I'd really like to be able to acquire Stillness and to feel like I am doing a good job meditating. Could you check with my Thought Adjuster, since he knows me so well, and, maybe, at some time get back with me, and tell me exactly what it is that I am doing wrong, and if there is anything that he wants me to do.

SIGNA: Yes, that will be done.

STUDENT: Sometimes it's hard for me to still myself and to control my energy, and I was wondering if you might say something about that?

BERTRAND: Controlling your electro-chemical process is a difficult task. You may ask any of those present and they will also verify. All I can suggest is practice. It is like learning to walk, or learning to ride a bicycle. You must practice, and, as you practice, you will begin to notice that you have much better control. As I mentioned in my lesson, there are two sides. One is your practice, which is your continual prayer. The other side is the silence, where you are able to listen. Yes, it is difficult to quiet that mind that is incessantly yearning for expression. Even if you are able to quiet it for 5 seconds, that is good. The next time you try, perhaps it will be 6 seconds. Your experience of it will be akin to a growth. You may not see a day to day improvement, but over a period of time, you will see a definite improvement and your ability to pray and to listen will improve dramatically. But, you must practice.

Authority

STUDENT: My question is this--when you pause when we ask a question and you are checking to see if you can answer our question, I'd like to know who it is that you are checking with, and if that personality presence is also here in the room?

SIGNA: We generally check with our immediate supervisor. While Ham is our school administrator as you have put it, we have other reporting lines and I have, for a lack of a better term, a chain of command that occasionally Bertrand or I must inquire of concerning sensitive issues. They are not here. I make a pause, and I have a channel of communication not too dissimilar to transmitting and receiving, that we use to make contact and relay the data and receive back confirmation.

Teacher Contact, Vision

STUDENT: Knowing that you are physically in this room with us, do you have eyes with which to see us, do you see our facial expressions? Like, some of the expressions that we relay back and forth tell us a lot about our thoughts and our feelings, and I am wondering if you are sensitive to these looks also?

SIGNA: It is difficult for me to describe the means by which our senses perceive the surroundings here. Yes, we do perceive each of you. We perceive your spirit luminosity; we perceive your individual spirit presences. There is a glow emanating that we perceive from your soul, we hear your responses and pick up your vibrations.

STUDENT: Do you have eyes though?

SIGNA: Physical apparatus like you--not exactly. We have morontia bodies; we have light sensors.

STUDENT: Signa, when we are down, when we are not as spiritually fragrant as we are in other times, does our spirit luminosity dim then?

SIGNA: No, definitely not. That is your own perception of your own conscious mind. It in no way has effect upon your spiritual luminosity.

Superconsciousness

STUDENT: I have a conscious mind question. (Laughter) In one of the other lessons you said there was some complex concept being described that everyone seemed to be having difficulty with, and Bertrand said, "the superconscious mind understood the lesson in all of you." When does or will our conscious mind have access to the accumulated knowledge of the superconscious mind?

SIGNA: That is a difficult question to answer because it is different in each individual. Your conscious mind proceeds from day to day with your thought patterns, with your life. Your super-conscious mind, that part of you that has more or less contact with your Thought Adjuster, stands aloof and occasionally can reach down and touch part of you. And sometimes, your conscious mind can reach up and touch part of your super-conscious mind. Most individuals will not have that joining until you are on the morontia worlds, unfortunately. At this point, you must wait. That does not mean that you cannot have contact with your Adjuster, who works in the super-conscious mind level. By working with your Adjuster, you will be able to have better and better access to that super-conscious. You can work together.

Death

STUDENT: Bertrand, you had mentioned in one of the earlier lessons that we are judged on our motives. If a child is really abused can their motives be a result of them being abused to the point where they become evil, and cannot turn back? Like a soul death?[1]

BERTRAND: This is Bertrand. You speak of one of the more gross and inhumane human traits that occurs in some families where a child will be abused by a parent or some kin or perhaps by even someone not associated with the family, and it will leave lasting marks, marks that will be carried on this planet and into the next, on into the morontia experience. It is a travesty; it is very sad to watch. It is almost unbearable to see that type of animalistic behavior in such a potential mind. That individual may suffer in those atrocities for its entire life and on into the morontia ascendent career, but there are many, many systems, universe helpers, love, mercy, understanding, every single amount of universe energy that can be...with the effort going to help to erase what has been done. Does that help to answer your question?

STUDENT: Then why would any body not choose to go on to have eternal life?

BERTRAND: I honestly wish I could answer that question. I don't know why. There are individuals who fail to seek to know God, who fail the leadings of their Adjusters. With such a powerful and wonderful spark given to every normal mind, it is not easy to understand how that can happen. But take heart, it is not that common. It is most common to carry on, it is uncommon to not to carry on from this planet.

STUDENT: Did Caligastia and the rest have a chance to still, at the very end, to repent, after everything that had happened? Does soul death happen to that order of being?

BERTRAND: They have no soul. They are created beings. They are not evolutionary beings. You have a soul that is created between the efforts of the Thought Adjuster and the personality. Caligastia did not possess a soul. He possessed a very high level of intelligence, a high mind; he was a Descending Son of God. He did choose not to continue. He did refuse all efforts to give him mercy. He was totally consumed by himself. He was totally nefarious. . . . .

Worship

STUDENT: When we worship the Father, does the Adjuster experience our worship of the Father, too, or does it stand aloof from that worship?

SIGNA: This is Signa. Yes, your Thought Adjuster is most delighted to participate in your worship of the Father, and, in some cases, helps to lead you in that worship. Your Guardian Angel also joins you in that worship, so, in essence, there are three of you.

STUDENT: So, in a way, our Adjuster worships himself?

SIGNA: He leads you.

STUDENT: But participates in it?

SIGNA: Participates in helping you with your worship drive.

Guardian Angels

STUDENT: Do you know the names of our Guardian Angels? Our little daughter was wondering if that is something that is known and if she could find out the name of her guardian angel?

SIGNA: At this time, Guardian Angels are known by numbers.

STUDENT: She wanted to know the number of hers...anything. (LAUGHTER)

SIGNA: I see. I have no answer for her at this time. . . . .

Service

STUDENT: When we run across an individual displaying an anti-social personality, and we are aware of instead an individual with a Thought Adjuster, by what technique can we pierce that veil and help him or her recognize the time when they chose that behavior which will provide for self-preservation, make a new step toward life and improve their future?

SIGNA: I think I understand your question. Sometimes you are able to act in a manner that will allow you through your conversation, through your questioning, through your interaction with another individual, to illuminate the Father to them, to help them to see the Father who lives within them and the Father that lives in all others. Sometimes you are able to do this. There are those also in which the veil of darkness hangs so heavy in front of their eyes that they are unable to see your light and it is those individuals whose inner light must shine first. They will have to be led from within before they will be able to see from without.

Yes, it is frustrating to meet an individual like that, that you cannot reach, but understand, sometimes it is their job to create the light from within first. It is not inadequacy on your part for not being able to reach them. It is the veil in front of them that they are not able to see out of.

You have a strong desire to serve your brother and I can understand the frustration you must feel from time to time in being able to reach out and touch someone who you feel and see in your own heart that they need that shining God in front of them. But no matter how hard you try, and no matter how bright you try to shine, the wall is there, it is opaque. Move on to someone new.

STUDENT: Okay. I have a curiosity question.

SIGNA: I will try to satisfy your curiosity. (Laughter)

STUDENT: I am sensing two other presences aside from yourself and Bertrand. Can you illuminate those feelings?

SIGNA: You are correct.

STUDENT: Can we be introduced to them?

SIGNA: One moment. (pause) I am sorry, they wish to remain anonymous at this time, though at some other meeting they will make their presence known.

STUDENT: Okay, I understand.

Perception

STUDENT: I would like to ask what it is that Albert has that we don't, physically, that I don't have, and I want it. (Much laughter) Everyday I kind of waited to feel something.

SIGNA: Your earth humor is enjoyable.

STUDENT I am serious.

SIGNA: I know that. Some individuals are able to feel spirit presence better than others. While James is able to transmit and receive, now, more than just one individual, he does not generally sense our presence. Albert is a fortunate individual. He has that sixth sense of being able to sense our presence. If you wish to know if we are around, ask Albert.