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STUDENT Hi Bertrand. I [[read]] in The [[Urantia Book]] the [[Paper 91 - Evolution of Prayer|section on prayer]]. I [[think]] it was around [[144:2 The Discourse on Prayer|page 1617]]. If I recall, [[Jesus]] in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Gilboa Gilboa].[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_144#PAPER_144:_AT_GILBOA_AND_IN_THE_DECAPOLIS] Something that was really interesting and [[curious]] to me, the [[Lord's prayer]], because I know it is not in the [[Bible]], I'm pretty sure it is not in the Bible. How did it keep on? Was it just re-told in [[history]] and people memorized it and remembered it?

STUDENT Hi Bertrand. I [[read]] in The [[Urantia Book]] the [[Paper 91 - Evolution of Prayer|section on prayer]]. I [[think]] it was around [[144:2 The Discourse on Prayer|page 1617]]. If I recall, [[Jesus]] in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Gilboa Gilboa].[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_144#PAPER_144:_AT_GILBOA_AND_IN_THE_DECAPOLIS] Something that was really interesting and [[curious]] to me, the [[Lord's prayer]], because I know it is not in the [[Bible]], I'm pretty sure it is not in the Bible. How did it keep on? Was it just re-told in [[history]] and people memorized it and remembered it?

BERTRAND Yes, yes that is true. It is a [[sacred]] [[prayer]] that [[Michael]] delivered to his [[family]]. It was a family prayer. He also used it in his teaching [[mission]] from time to time, and it always evoked [[awe]] in the [[listener]]. And [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_prayer over time it has changed], but the flavor of it, the [[power]] of it is still there. It still moves many many millions of people when it is uttered.

BERTRAND Yes, yes that is true. It is a [[sacred]] [[prayer]] that [[Michael]] delivered to his [[family]]. It was a family prayer. He also used it in his teaching [[mission]] from time to time, and it always evoked [[awe]] in the [[listener]]. And [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_prayer over time it has changed], but the flavor of it, the [[power]] of it is still there. It still moves many many millions of people when it is uttered.

STUDENT But that, I think it said in The [[Urantia Book]] that it was actually a [[prayer]] from outer [[space]], or along the lines of those other prayers that [[Michael]] taught that were actually [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_144#144:5._OTHER_FORMS_OF_PRAYER prayers from other worlds]. Is that right?

STUDENT But that, I think it said in The [[Urantia Book]] that it was actually a [[prayer]] from outer [[space]], or along the lines of those other prayers that [[Michael]] taught that were actually [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_144#144:5._OTHER_FORMS_OF_PRAYER prayers from other worlds]. Is that right?

BERTRAND Could you be more specific? Because I [[believe]] that it was a [[prayer]] that was used in his family first. A [[discussion]] of the prayers from outer [[space]] was with the [[apostles]] much much later. The [[Lord's prayer]] was continually used by [[the Master]].

BERTRAND Could you be more specific? Because I [[believe]] that it was a [[prayer]] that was used in his family first. A [[discussion]] of the prayers from outer [[space]] was with the [[apostles]] much much later. The [[Lord's prayer]] was continually used by [[the Master]].

STUDENT Well, I'm sure you're right. I don't actually see where it says that in The [[Urantia Book]] it was his [[family]] [[prayer]], but, oh, well yes, [[reading]] "Jesus gave the apostles the prayer in collective form as they had prayed it in the Nazareth home."[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_144#144:3._THE_BELIEVER.27S_PRAYER (144:3.7)] Okay, you're right, naturally. But I [[thought]] it was one of those ones that he didn't tell them it was a [[prayer]] from, oh I see, "many of them were from other inhabited worlds, this fact Jesus did not reveal to the twelve."[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_144#144:5._OTHER_FORMS_OF_PRAYER (144:5)] So, you're correct that that was not one of those. Sorry.

STUDENT Well, I'm sure you're right. I don't actually see where it says that in The [[Urantia Book]] it was his [[family]] [[prayer]], but, oh, well yes, [[reading]] "Jesus gave the apostles the prayer in collective form as they had prayed it in the Nazareth home."[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_144#144:3._THE_BELIEVER.27S_PRAYER (144:3.7)] Okay, you're right, naturally. But I [[thought]] it was one of those ones that he didn't tell them it was a [[prayer]] from, oh I see, "many of them were from other inhabited worlds, this fact Jesus did not reveal to the twelve."[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_144#144:5._OTHER_FORMS_OF_PRAYER (144:5)] So, you're correct that that was not one of those. Sorry.

BERTRAND Carry on . . . .

BERTRAND Carry on . . . .

===='''''[[Parenting]]''''', '''''[[Mansion Worlds]]'''''====

===='''''[[Parenting]]''''', '''''[[Mansion Worlds]]'''''====

*Raising Children Requirement on Mansonia

*Raising Children Requirement on Mansonia

STUDENT . . . . Well, could I ask one [[question]] about whether or not you have to have a minimum of [[three]] [[children]]? The way I [[read]] the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_47_-_The_Seven_Mansion_Worlds#47:1._THE_FINALITERS.27_WORLD part in The Urantia Book (47:1.4)] was that the people that are on the commission are [[parents]] of three children, but I did not find any place in the book where it said everybody else had to have three children.

STUDENT . . . . Well, could I ask one [[question]] about whether or not you have to have a minimum of [[three]] [[children]]? The way I [[read]] the [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_47_-_The_Seven_Mansion_Worlds#47:1._THE_FINALITERS.27_WORLD part in The Urantia Book (47:1.4)] was that the people that are on the commission are [[parents]] of three children, but I did not find any place in the book where it said everybody else had to have three children.

BERTRAND I can comment on that. Having been through the [[process]] myself, I have some [[personal]] data to relay. The [[commission]] established for my planetary ascenders looks at an [[individual]]'s [[parenting]] [[experience]] and matches that against a pre-determined set of parental requirements in raising [[children]]. If you pass those requirements, you are approved for passage on beyond the nurseries. The [[number]] of [[children]] that you have is somewhat irrelevant, but the number of requirements must all be met. If the [[creation]] of one, two, three children or more do not give you the [[experience]] [[necessary]] to pass those pre-established norms, you would indeed spend time in the nursery until you had acquired the [[requisite]] [[experience]]. Does that help?

BERTRAND I can comment on that. Having been through the [[process]] myself, I have some [[personal]] data to relay. The [[commission]] established for my planetary ascenders looks at an [[individual]]'s [[parenting]] [[experience]] and matches that against a pre-determined set of parental requirements in raising [[children]]. If you pass those requirements, you are approved for passage on beyond the nurseries. The [[number]] of [[children]] that you have is somewhat irrelevant, but the number of requirements must all be met. If the [[creation]] of one, two, three children or more do not give you the [[experience]] [[necessary]] to pass those pre-established norms, you would indeed spend time in the nursery until you had acquired the [[requisite]] [[experience]]. Does that help?