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I can tell you that you are very fortunate, however, for with the amount of [[adversity]] that faces you, you also have a great amount of [[opportunity]]. This opportunity is what many of [[beings]] on our side are somewhat [[envious]], if you will, in as much as you have ample [[opportunity]] each day to be in the [[service]] of [[the Father]]. You do not necessarily need to [[volunteer]] for assignments, you have many right in front of you. [[Learn]] from this, and especially as you [[progress]] on the [[morontial]] worlds, you will look back and thank [[the Father]] for the life that you now have.

I can tell you that you are very fortunate, however, for with the amount of [[adversity]] that faces you, you also have a great amount of [[opportunity]]. This opportunity is what many of [[beings]] on our side are somewhat [[envious]], if you will, in as much as you have ample [[opportunity]] each day to be in the [[service]] of [[the Father]]. You do not necessarily need to [[volunteer]] for assignments, you have many right in front of you. [[Learn]] from this, and especially as you [[progress]] on the [[morontial]] worlds, you will look back and thank [[the Father]] for the life that you now have.

Q. If we are talking to someone with whom are having a certain level of adversity in their life and trying to talk to them about the way out of it through the Father, could you offer some suggestions on how to approach that, or is that individual for everyone? There are so many people that we know that are in pain and we're trying to help them because we are beginning to find a new life and we want to share that with them too. It's just so difficult reaching people if they're not ready for it. Are there some ways in which we can try to perceive at which point we can make a little bit of an entry way?

A. It is [[difficult]] unless you know this [[person]] well, for in giving too much [[light]] or spiritual [[insight]] you may actually cause them to [[retreat]] further within their [[mind]] and not respond to your help. The best [[information]] that I can give you is to do your best in your [[discussion]] with them to help them see their shortcomings, to help them see what might happen if they continue on the [[path]] that they are on, to [[listen]], and listen intently, for most [[service]], most ministry is nothing more than that. It allows the [[individual]] an [[opportunity]] to [[express]] themself; and many times, when one hears what their [[thoughts]] are, certain [[insights]] are automatically gained and certain [[doubts]], [[confusion]], [[frustration]] seems to dissipate almost immediately. I would [[encourage]] you as you share the [[love]] that you [[feel]] to make them aware that you will always be there for them. They can count on you as you count on [[Jesus]]. Aside from that, I would [[encourage]] you as a group in one of the topical discussions that you are planning, to use this as subject matter; for the [[minds]] in this group are great, and I [[believe]] each of you can learn from each other. As our meetings [[progress]], the format will change slightly. Instead of me always giving answers, I will be asking each of you to [[respond]] to another's question. This will provide much [[insight]] for you as a group in [[understanding]] each other.

A. It is difficult unless you know this person well, for in giving too much light or spiritual insight you may actually cause them to retreat further within their mind and not respond to your help. The best information that I can give you is to do your best in your discussion with them to help them see their shortcomings, to help them see what might happen if they continue on the path that they are on, to listen, and listen intently, for most service, most ministry is nothing more than that. It allows the individual an opportunity to express themself; and many times, when one hears what their thoughts are, certain insights are automatically gained and certain doubts, confusion, frustration seems to dissipate almost immediately. I would encourage you as you share the love that you feel to make them aware that you will always be there for them. They can count on you as you count on Jesus. Aside from that, I would encourage you as a group in one of the topical discussions that you are planning, to use this as subject matter; for the minds in this group are great, and I believe each of you can learn from each other. As our meetings progress, the format will change slightly. Instead of me always giving answers, I will be asking each of you to respond to another's question. This will provide much insight for you as a group in understanding each other.

Q. Welmek, this is Marva. You mentioned a while ago that the life here on [[earth]], we have a lot of time to talk to [[Christ]]. What happens when we pass this [[earth]] that we lose that kind of [[power]]?

Q. Welmek, this is Marva. You mentioned a while ago that the life here on earth, we have a lot of time to talk to Christ. What happens when we pass this earth that we lose that kind of power?

A. You do not lose time, but simply, the [[opportunities]] are not as frequent to serve in the way that you can serve here. For as you move forward toward [[the Father]], the [[personality]] disorders, the [[confusion]], the lack of [[insight]], is much less than what you [[experience]] here. It gives myself and others like me great [[pleasure]] to be able to help you become more [[God-conscious]] and God-aware.

Q. Welmek, this is Peter. I can honestly say I don't have many questions, most of them have already been asked and you responded. But I do have to ask, what is my [[spirit]] [[name]], please?

 

Q. Welmek, this is Peter. I can honestly say I don't have many questions, most of them have already been asked and you responded. But I do have to ask, what is my spirit name, please?

A. Your name is Daniel.

A. Your name is Daniel.

A. In a general sense, each of you will be given assignment to start at the beginning and read [[Urantia Text|this text]]. I [[understand]] that your [[comprehension]] will vary. I am mostly concerned with you becoming familiar with the [[contents]]. Your depth of [[understanding]] will increase and be enhanced by your spiritual [[insight]] as you learn better to [[communicate]] with the [[spirit fragment]] inside. On an [[individual]] assignment basis, as we have meetings each of you will be given assignments. Some of you already have these assignments. They may be a particular [[book]], they may be a particular paper, they may [[reference]] a particular [[word]] or [[concept]]. I will do my best in trying to [[perceive]] what I believe you need the most help. However, let it be known now, that part of our next and third phase will be to reach out and bring more people to this [[group]]. In doing so, it will be required that you, each of you, become the [[focal point]] as far as answering [[questions]] pertaining to [[Urantia Text|our text]]; therefore, the need for you to read and re-read. Ask questions in your [[study]] group and ask questions amongst yourself for [[clarification]]. While there are many [[sources]] of truth on [[this planet]], I can tell you that there is no greater single source of spiritual [[truth]] than that contained within [[Urantia Text|this text]], aside from the actual [[Thought Adjuster|fragment of the Father Himself]].

 

A. In a general sense, each of you will be given assignment to start at the beginning and read this text. I understand that your comprehension will vary. I am mostly concerned with you becoming familiar with the contents. Your depth of understanding will increase and be enhanced by your spiritual insight as you learn better to communicate with the spirit fragment inside. On an individual assignment basis, as we have meetings each of you will be given assignments. Some of you already have these assignments. They may be a particular book, they may be a particular paper, they may reference a particular word or concept. I will do my best in trying to perceive what I believe you need the most help. However, let it be known now, that part of our next and third phase will be to reach out and bring more people to this group. In doing so, it will be required that you, each of you, become the focal point as far as answering questions pertaining to our text; therefore, the need for you to read and re-read. Ask questions in your study group and ask questions amongst yourself for clarification. While there are many sources of truth on this planet, I can tell you that there is no greater single source of spiritual truth than that contained within this text, aside from the actual fragment of the Father Himself.

 

 

A. Both questions are truly your group's decision. I will say that I am pleased with the progress that we have made to date, for in just a little over a month now, much has transpired. Many are here and more will be coming. It matters not to me so much the frequency, but more the intent and motivation. I would prefer that our meetings be weekly for much will happen. I encourage at least the frequency of your individual study group, and I encourage more interaction regarding specific concepts and questions you may have, whether it be in person or over the phone. Stay in touch with each other. Support each other, and help each other grow.

Q. Welmek, this is Jane, and I have had many disturbing things happen to me over the past three weeks. Over the past three years, in fact, I have not read the book so much, and I've had trouble with the use of the masculine pronoun and of the fact that the authors of the book were instructed to use the Father as a term on sex planets when referring to the Father. I think I'm okay with that, but my question tonight involves the Son who is supposed to be the Mother-Spirit and yet throughout this the word "son" is used. I have real difficulty explaining to my women friends who feel excluded by the male language, by the use of "brotherhood", words like "sonship"; and I feel excluded. I guess the truth shines through, and yet those words get in the way. Could you explain this to me?

Q. A follow-up question, please; and thank you, you've been very helpful. We have passed around a [[schedule]] tonight of the various times of meetings and we obviously are continuing this once a week. We've set up [[topical]] [[discussions]], and I think our other regular [[sequential]] [[study]] of [[Urantia Text|the book]] is set up for every two weeks. Could you comment on: is our [[frequency]] okay? Should it [[intensify]] at all? And secondly, do you have any comments on the [[value]] of our continued sequential [[reading]] versus a more [[topical]] approach or perhaps even another approach that you would prefer?

A. It is simply a matter of reference. As you know, Michael himself did not discriminate between men and women in his heart. He only used the current set of circumstances in acting out his mission on earth. There is much awareness of your question. I am concerned for you that it may impede your or other female associates' spiritual progress. Do not let the sex connotation mean anything to you. The Father or the Mother when referring to the First Source and Center, I tell you, is all the same. It is not a question of sex whatsoever. The First Source and Center, the Creator, the I-AM, God, the Father, whatever designation you want to use, then use it. If a sex designation causes discomfort, then change this in your mind.

A. Both questions are truly your group's [[decision]]. I will say that I am pleased with the [[progress]] that we have made to date, for in just a little over a month now, much has transpired. Many are here and more will be coming. It matters not to me so much the [[frequency]], but more the [[intent]] and [[motivation]]. I would prefer that our meetings be weekly for much will happen. I [[encourage]] at least the [[frequency]] of your [[individual]] [[study]] group, and I [[encourage]] more [[interaction]] regarding specific [[concepts]] and questions you may have, whether it be in [[person]] or over the phone. Stay in [[touch]] with each other. [[Support]] each other, and help each other [[grow]].

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Q. Welmek, this is Jane, and I have had many disturbing things happen to me over the past three weeks. Over the past three years, in [[fact]], I have not [[read]] [[Urantia Text|the book]] so much, and I've had trouble with the use of the [[masculine]] pronoun and of the [[fact]] that the [[authors]] of the book were instructed to use [[the Father]] as a term on sex planets when referring to [[the Father]]. I think I'm okay with that, but my [[question]] tonight involves [[the Son]] who is supposed to be the Mother-Spirit and yet throughout this the word "son" is used. I have real [[difficulty]] explaining to my [[women]] [[friends]] who feel excluded by the [[male]] [[language]], by the use of "[[brotherhood]]", words like "sonship"; and I feel excluded. I guess the [[truth]] shines through, and yet those [[words]] get in the way. Could you [[explain]] this to me?

Q. I understand this, accept this within my heart. I feel that that is true. And yet when I try to talk to friends about this, and I present them with the book, they have trouble with the male pronoun usage. Do you have any suggestions, other than what you've just told me, that I could tell them?

A. It is simply a matter of [[reference]]. As you know, [[Michael]] himself did not [[discriminate]] between men and women in his [[heart]]. He only used the current set of circumstances in acting out his [[mission]] on [[earth]]. There is much [[awareness]] of your question. I am concerned for you that it may impede your or other [[female]] associates' [[spiritual progress]]. Do not let the sex connotation mean anything to you. [[The Father]] or the Mother when referring to the [[First Source and Center]], I tell you, is all the same. It is not a question of [[Gender|sex]] whatsoever. The [[First Source and Center]], the [[Creator]], the [[I-AM]], God, [[the Father]], whatever designation you want to use, then use it. If a sex designation causes discomfort, then [[change]] this in your [[mind]].

A. This is truth. There is no question of that fact. I would ask you to tell your friends to overlook the pronoun reference and simply read the words. Allow the Spirit of Truth to act within their mind, and let things happen as they will. There is no changing of the words within the text, obviously. I am somewhat puzzled, however, if one is truly a truth-seeker and believes that you are leading them to the well of this truth, why they would not drink from the cup, no matter what nature this cup takes. Encourage them to read. Tell them it matters not if they prefer when they see the word "Father" substitute "Mother", when they see the word "brotherhood" substitute "sisterhood". I tell you these meanings are not sexual in any way whatsoever. They are only referenced to make a point. Do your best to prevent them from staying away from this book based on what is really not important. Do not misunderstand my word "not important", for I know in their mind it is, but in reality I tell you, it is not.

Q. I [[understand]] this, [[accept]] this within my [[heart]]. I feel that that is true. And yet when I try to talk to [[friends]] about this, and I present them with [[Urantia Text|the book]], they have trouble with the [[male]] pronoun usage. Do you have any suggestions, other than what you've just told me, that I could tell them?

Q. Welmek, what is the Reserve Corps of Destiny?

Q. Welmek, what is the [[Reserve Corps of Destiny]]?

A. The Reserve Corps is comprised of those beings, those humans, who are willing to dedicate themselves to particular functions. In the past it has been limited, mostly on an unconscious level, to a very few Urantians. However, with the mandate of Michael to make things change, we must incorporate many Urantians to assist in this outworking; and therefore, you have been invited to become a part of this group. In time, it will have little meaning, for all will have their own guardians and will be ministers of the Father.

A. The [[Reserve Corps]] is comprised of those [[beings]], those humans, who are willing to [[dedicate]] themselves to particular [[functions]]. In the [[past]] it has been [[limited]], mostly on an [[unconscious]] level, to a very few Urantians. However, with the [[mandate]] of [[Michael]] to make things [[change]], we must incorporate many Urantians to [[assist]] in this outworking; and therefore, you have been invited to become a part of this [[group]]. In time, it will have little [[meaning]], for all will have their own [[Seraphic guardians|guardians]] and will be ministers of [[the Father]].

Q. Is it then a correct assumption on my part that this group is part of the organization of the Reserve Corps of Destiny?

Q. Is it then a correct [[assumption]] on my part that this group is part of the [[organization]] of the [[Reserve Corps of Destiny]]?

AThat is correct. I would tell you, however, that as far as your spiritual progress, it has little meaning; for this is an individual attunement whether you are in the Reserve Corps or not. It matters little, for there are many on your world who are in a psychic circle reference in the 6th or 7th circle, but from a spiritual attunement level are advanced as many who are in the 2nd or 3rd. The difference is in their cosmic understanding of their relationship to this universe and the realities thereof.

A. That is correct. I would tell you, however, that as far as your [[spiritual progress]], it has little [[meaning]]; for this is an [[individual]] [[attunement]] whether you are in the [[Reserve Corps]] or not. It matters little, for there are many on your world who are in a [[psychic circle]] reference in the 6th or 7th circle, but from a spiritual [[attunement]] level are advanced as many who are in the 2nd or 3rd. The [[difference]] is in their [[cosmic]] [[understanding]] of their [[relationship]] to this [[universe]] and the realities thereof.

Q. Could you explain more about the psychic circles?

A.They are an [[attainment]] level on a [[conscious]] basis as to your [[recognition]] of the [[spirit within]], your willingness to pursue [[the Father]]'s will, and your [[relationship]] to [[the universe]]. I would ask you to [[read]] the [[morontia mota]] and it will give you a better [[insight]] as to what you must fully, [[consciously]] and personally know in order to be at least at a 3rd level. Do not, however, put too much importance on these things for now. While they will become more important later, your [[mission]] now, as I have said, it to familiarize yourself with the [[Creator]] and to better [[communicate]] with [[Thought Adjuster|His spirit]], to [[understand]] your [[brothers and sisters]] and to [[learn]] how to love them as [[Jesus]] loved you.

A.They are an attainment level on a conscious basis as to your recognition of the spirit within, your willingness to pursue the Father's will, and your relationship to the universe. I would ask you to read the morontia mota and it will give you a better insight as to what you must fully, consciously and personally know in order to be at least at a 3rd level. Do not, however, put too much importance on these things for now. While they will become more important later, your mission now, as I have said, it to familiarize yourself with the Creator and to better communicate with His spirit, to understand your brothers and sisters and to learn how to love them as Jesus loved you.

WELMEK: This is a [[relatively]] [[quiet]] group. I [[anticipated]] more questions. I would ask each of you over the course of the next week, to read the paper in [[Urantia Text|your text]] regarding [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_110 Adjuster relation to the individual]. I would like to address this next week, specifically, and we will begin a [[course]] of [[action]] that [[Machiventa]] himself (spoke) of earlier.

WELMEK: This is a relatively quiet group. I anticipated more questions. I would ask each of you over the course of the next week, to read the paper in your text regarding Adjuster relation to the individual. I would like to address this next week, specifically, and we will begin a course of action that Machiventa himself of earlier.

It has become apparent to me that you are truly [[desirous]] to know much more and to move forward. This has been granted. [[Machiventa]] is here and would like to make a brief [[statement]] about this [[progress]]. Then I will adjourn our meeting.

It has become apparent to me that you are truly desirous to know much more and to move forward. This has been granted. Machiventa is here and would like to make a brief statement about this progress. Then I will adjourn our meeting.

Before I turn it over to him, please do your best to read the selection that I have given you; and [[read]] it with an eye that you have not read with before. [[Attune]] yourself to the [[words]] and I will tell you that you will [[literally]] [[facilitate]] your [[spirit fragment]] to make [[impressions]] upon your [[mind]].

Before I turn it over to him, please do your best to read the selection that I have given you; and read it with an eye that you have not read with before. Attune yourself to the words and I will tell you that you will literally facilitate your spirit fragment to make impressions upon your mind.

Go in [[peace]]. I will be with you. I will be with you also when Oren comes to [[visit]]; and as has been suggested, we will have a [[surprise]] [[visitor]].

===Closing===

===Closing===

MACHIVENTA: Greetings. This is I, Machiventa. I am pleased to be with you tonight. You have already perceived what is coming to be for you in regards to the next phase. This assignment of Welmek is the beginning. As he mentioned, there will be more interpersonal discussion within our group in the weeks to come. I have asked your teacher to give you this assignment for three specific reasons which we will discuss later. For now, as your friend and as your teacher, I would like to make a personal petition to each one in this group tonight to do what has been asked of you. If you wish to grow, if you wish to partake of this mission, this ministry, then you must allow us to guide and direct you as we see best at the given point in time. There is no short-cuts. We will grow as a group, and we will be with you faithfully to serve you and guide you.

MACHIVENTA: Greetings. This is I, Machiventa. I am pleased to be with you tonight. You have already perceived what is coming to be for you in regards to the next phase. This assignment of Welmek is the beginning. As he mentioned, there will be more interpersonal discussion within our group in the weeks to come. I have asked your teacher to give you this assignment for three specific reasons which we will discuss later. For now, as your friend and as your teacher, I would like to make a personal petition to each one in this group tonight to do what has been asked of you. If you wish to grow, if you wish to partake of this mission, this ministry, then you must allow us to guide and direct you as we see best at the given point in time. There is no short-cuts. We will grow as a group, and we will be with you faithfully to serve you and guide you.