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===Lesson===

===Lesson===

===='''''[[Discernment]]''''', '''''[[Presence]]'''''====

===='''''[[Discernment]]''''', '''''[[Presence]]'''''====

As you pass by in your daily lives, how do you know, how can you tell if a [[person]] is [[spirit]] led, or if they are led by the [[material]] world? It is not always possible to tell quickly if an [[individual]] is spirit led. Like most [[things]] and most people, in order to be able to get to [[understand]] and know that they are spirit led, you must begin to get to know them. You must [[converse]] with them; talk with them; ask them [[questions]]. It can be done in a matter of [[fact]] way, so as not to prematurely disrupt the [[communication]] because of [[fear]]. Fear on the [[other]]'s part. Humans who are [[material]] led, that is having the [[total]] of their [[existence]] in the material world and very little of their [[conscious]] [[mind]] seeking [[spirit]] [[values]], are often frightened by the prospect of having to discuss spiritual [[values]], spiritual [[concepts]], or even [[truth, beauty and goodness]].

As you pass by in your daily lives, how do you know, how can you tell if a [[person]] is [[spirit]] led, or if they are led by the [[material]] world? It is not always possible to tell quickly if an [[individual]] is spirit led. Like most [[things]] and most people, in order to be able to get to [[understand]] and know that they are spirit led, you must begin to get to know them. You must [[converse]] with them; talk with them; ask them [[questions]]. It can be done in a matter of [[fact]] way, so as not to prematurely disrupt the [[communication]] because of [[fear]]. Fear on the [[other]]'s part. Humans who are [[material]] led, that is having the [[total]] of their [[existence]] in the material world and very little of their [[conscious]] [[mind]] seeking [[spirit]] [[values]], are often frightened by the prospect of having to discuss spiritual [[values]], spiritual [[concepts]], or even [[truth, beauty, and goodness]].

As a test, it is quite easy to learn quickly, those [[material]] minded humans by asking just a few [[questions]] that relate to [[truth, beauty and goodness]]; that relate to your [[spiritual]] [[leadings]]. You must always take the position of one who is [[sharing]] your own [[feelings]], not directing them as to what they ought to [[feel]] or what they ought to think. It is most appropriate to [[share]] you own [[feelings]] though. The [[fear]] of having to look inside, to begin to see that [[spiritual]] [[existence]] is very powerful in a material minded human. And as soon as you [[express]] those [[feelings]] yourself, you will find that they would [[wish]] to separate themselves from your [[presence]]. On the contrary, if you are to try the same [[technique]] with a [[human]] who is spirit led, who knows [[God]], they will respond in a spirit led, [[God]]-knowing way.

As a test, it is quite easy to learn quickly, those [[material]] minded humans by asking just a few [[questions]] that relate to [[truth, beauty, and goodness]]; that relate to your [[spiritual]] [[leadings]]. You must always take the position of one who is [[sharing]] your own [[feelings]], not directing them as to what they ought to [[feel]] or what they ought to think. It is most appropriate to [[share]] you own [[feelings]] though. The [[fear]] of having to look inside, to begin to see that [[spiritual]] [[existence]] is very powerful in a material minded human. And as soon as you [[express]] those [[feelings]] yourself, you will find that they would [[wish]] to separate themselves from your [[presence]]. On the contrary, if you are to try the same [[technique]] with a [[human]] who is spirit led, who knows [[God]], they will respond in a spirit led, [[God]]-knowing way.

You have all had that [[experience]]. You have all had the experience of [[being]] in the [[presence]] of another [[ascender]] who is spirit led. You can [[feel]] it in their being. And that feeling that you feel is that [[spirit]] [[light]] that shines and your spirit can [[discern]] that. Like [[listening]] for your [[Thought Adjuster]], you must also [[listen]] and look for that spirit led [[quality]] in others.

You have all had that [[experience]]. You have all had the experience of [[being]] in the [[presence]] of another [[ascender]] who is spirit led. You can [[feel]] it in their being. And that feeling that you feel is that [[spirit]] [[light]] that shines and your spirit can [[discern]] that. Like [[listening]] for your [[Thought Adjuster]], you must also [[listen]] and look for that spirit led [[quality]] in others.

===='''''[[Service]]'''''====

===='''''[[Service]]'''''====

Let us not make the mistake though, of [[assuming]] that a material minded [[human]] should be overlooked. Quite the [[opposite]] should be. Those are the ones who truly need to hear the saving [[words]] of [[our Master]], [[Jesus]]. They are the ones who need to have their [[fear]] overcome with [[love]]. They are the ones who will take more [[work]], more [[dedication]]. They are the ones that you must be [[patient]] with because the [[Though Adjuster]] within them will [[respond]] positively to the outside [[stimulus]] of [[truth, beauty and goodness]].

Let us not make the mistake though, of [[assuming]] that a material minded [[human]] should be overlooked. Quite the [[opposite]] should be. Those are the ones who truly need to hear the saving [[words]] of [[our Master]], [[Jesus]]. They are the ones who need to have their [[fear]] overcome with [[love]]. They are the ones who will take more [[work]], more [[dedication]]. They are the ones that you must be [[patient]] with because the [[Thought Adjuster]] within them will [[respond]] positively to the outside [[stimulus]] of [[truth, beauty, and goodness]].

[[Seeds]] can even [[grow]] in the [[desert]] if they are given proper [[nourishment]] and [[water]]. All the [[earth]] can [[support]] life, if it is given the proper conditions. And so is the [[light]] of the spirit able to [[grow]], even in those [[humans]] who do not exhibit strong [[spiritual]] [[leadings]] if the proper nutrients, the proper conditions exist. You also know, and have [[experienced]] yourselves, situations with people who seem to be living their days only in the [[material]] world. And then, due to some external [[event]], the [[light]] begins to shine in them and they begin to [[change]]. We have many, many spiritual [[agencies]] now who are working diligently to help those lost sheep return to the fold. The [[shepherds]] are out in the flock and in the highlands looking for the lost ones.

[[Seeds]] can even [[grow]] in the [[desert]] if they are given proper [[nourishment]] and [[water]]. All the [[earth]] can [[support]] life, if it is given the proper conditions. And so is the [[light]] of the spirit able to [[grow]], even in those [[humans]] who do not exhibit strong [[spiritual]] [[leadings]] if the proper nutrients, the proper conditions exist. You also know, and have [[experienced]] yourselves, situations with people who seem to be living their days only in the [[material]] world. And then, due to some external [[event]], the [[light]] begins to shine in them and they begin to [[change]]. We have many, many spiritual [[agencies]] now who are working diligently to help those lost sheep return to the fold. The [[shepherds]] are out in the flock and in the highlands looking for the lost ones.

And that's what you must be. Like the [[shepherd]] who looks for the lost sheep. There are [[problems]] with trying to attempt to help these lost and yearning [[souls]]. They may not know it, but their [[Thought Adjusters]] are working overtime trying to bring them toward [[God]]. And when you have the [[Thought Adjuster]] on one side applying [[pressure]] and have the [[human]] showing the [[mirror]] to them on the other side of the way they can be, we are then giving the [[water]] and the [[food]] that is necessary for the [[seed]] to [[grow]].

And that's what you must be. Like the [[shepherd]] who looks for the lost sheep. There are [[problems]] with trying to attempt to help these lost and yearning [[souls]]. They may not know it, but their [[Thought Adjusters]] are working overtime trying to bring them toward [[God]]. And when you have the [[Thought Adjuster]] on one side applying [[pressure]] and have the [[human]] showing the [[mirror]] to them on the other side of the way they can be, we are then giving the [[water]] and the [[food]] that is necessary for the [[seed]] to [[grow]].

===='''''[[Teaching Mission]]'''''====

===='''''[[Teaching Mission]]'''''====

Yes, our [[circuits]] are reconnected. Yes, those will have an [[influence]]. Yes, the [[Teaching Mission]] is happening on [[this planet]]. And yes, it will have an [[influence]] on many. But, we already [[believe]]. We already know. We have [[God]] in our [[hearts]]. We have [[Jesus]] to guide us. He lived here, and we know that. And we have His [[love]] and His [[blessings]] to do this mighty chore. But those who do not live in the spirit world, who do not have a [[consciousness]] of the [[beauty]] and the grandeur of what this divine [[service]] is all about, are truly lost.

Yes, our [[circuits]] are reconnected. Yes, those will have an [[influence]]. Yes, the [[Teaching Mission]] is happening on [[this planet]]. And yes, it will have an [[influence]] on many. But, we already [[believe]]. We already know. We have [[God]] in our [[hearts]]. We have [[Jesus]] to guide us. He lived here, and we know that. And we have His [[love]] and His [[blessings]] to do this mighty chore. But those who do not live in the spirit world, who do not have a [[consciousness]] of the [[beauty]] and the grandeur of what this divine [[service]] is all about, are truly lost.

Student: Good evening, Signa. I just want to say that I really [[appreciate]] your sense of [[humor]]. I'm still chuckling over your comment last week when Albert asked when an [[event]] was going to take place and you said, "Not this evening." ([[Laughter]]) It seems so [[difficult]] for us, Signa, maybe because the spirit [[circuits]] have been cut off for so long. It seems to me in our [[society]], in our [[community]], and if not in the world at large there are so many people that are [[materialistic]], that are not seeking [[spiritual]] [[values]], that are rather [[superficial]] to a [[spirit]] led person. And, it's [[difficult]] to talk on something that's deep and not just [[surface]]. I think that maybe we all have this [[question]] as to how do we approach these people? I think we all want to bring people to a [[God-consciousness|higher conscious]], to know [[God]] as we are getting to do. And, yet, we find it very [[difficult]] to reach out to others. Can you help us at all? I know that's what the lesson was about this evening, but still [[think]] we're all somewhat questioning exactly how we can approach these other people.

Student: Good evening, Signa. I just want to say that I really [[appreciate]] your sense of [[humor]]. I'm still chuckling over your comment last week when Albert asked when an [[event]] was going to take place and you said, "Not this evening." ([[Laughter]]) It seems so [[difficult]] for us, Signa, maybe because the spirit [[circuits]] have been cut off for so long. It seems to me in our [[society]], in our [[community]], and if not in the world at large there are so many people that are [[materialistic]], that are not seeking [[spiritual]] [[values]], that are rather [[superficial]] to a [[spirit]] led person. And, it's [[difficult]] to talk on something that's deep and not just [[surface]]. I think that maybe we all have this [[question]] as to how do we approach these people? I think we all want to bring people to a [[God-consciousness|higher conscious]], to know [[God]] as we are getting to do. And, yet, we find it very [[difficult]] to reach out to others. Can you help us at all? I know that's what the lesson was about this evening, but still [[think]] we're all somewhat questioning exactly how we can approach these other people.

SIGNA: The [[sharing]] of [[truth, beauty and goodness]] does not [[necessarily]] fall into the realm of what you would call "[[religion]]". It could be the [[sharing]] of the [[beauty]] of a sunset; the [[sharing]] of a particular shared [[truth]] that you know; it could be something from the [[Urantia Book]] that is quite outside of the usual [[norm]] of religious talk. [[Shared]] [[experience]] of something [[good]]; something that has transpired in the news; something that you have [[learned]] in your [[community]]. All [[truth, beauty and goodness]] is from [[the Father]] and it doesn't necessarily have to [[reflect]] a [[spiritual]] [[nature]].

SIGNA: The [[sharing]] of [[truth, beauty, and goodness]] does not [[necessarily]] fall into the realm of what you would call "[[religion]]". It could be the [[sharing]] of the [[beauty]] of a sunset; the [[sharing]] of a particular shared [[truth]] that you know; it could be something from the [[Urantia Book]] that is quite outside of the usual [[norm]] of religious talk. [[Shared]] [[experience]] of something [[good]]; something that has transpired in the news; something that you have [[learned]] in your [[community]]. All [[truth, beauty, and goodness]] is from [[the Father]] and it doesn't necessarily have to [[reflect]] a [[spiritual]] [[nature]].

Student: Signa, this is Martha. I had an [[experience]] this last Sunday that, for some reason, this lesson made me [[think]] of. I was [[reading]] the newspaper. I don't know if anyone read in the Orange County section the editorial by Dana Parsons. He was saying that before he [[died]] he'd really like to have [[universal]] [[agreement]] between the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism creationists] and the [[evolution]]ists on how we really came about. By the time I finished this little article, I [[thought]], "You know what? I really need to tell this man about The [[Urantia Book]]." So, I went to my [[computer]] and I typed him a letter, just telling him about The [[Urantia Book]]. I sent it off within the hour. It may be all over the L.A. Times in a couple days!! I don't know!

Student: Signa, this is Martha. I had an [[experience]] this last Sunday that, for some reason, this lesson made me [[think]] of. I was [[reading]] the newspaper. I don't know if anyone read in the Orange County section the editorial by Dana Parsons. He was saying that before he [[died]] he'd really like to have [[universal]] [[agreement]] between the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism creationists] and the [[evolution]]ists on how we really came about. By the time I finished this little article, I [[thought]], "You know what? I really need to tell this man about The [[Urantia Book]]." So, I went to my [[computer]] and I typed him a letter, just telling him about The [[Urantia Book]]. I sent it off within the hour. It may be all over the L.A. Times in a couple days!! I don't know!

SIGNA: That is a [[leading]]. You have seen a [[spark]] there in that [[individual]] in his [[writing]] that you felt it was [[necessary]] to [[share]] your [[truth]] with. That is [[good]]. It may be useful, after tonight's meeting, to [[share]] some of those [[experiences]] that each of you have had. And next week, before our meeting begins, share those experiences that you have had during the week and how they have transpired. And, I am sure that as you share those [[experiences]], you will all [[learn]] from that just as much as you could possibly learn from me telling you what I know. [[Experience]] is a great [[teacher]] and those [[shared]] experiences can help you all to [[learn]] how this [[process]] works, and it does. Are there further questions?

SIGNA: That is a [[leading]]. You have seen a [[spark]] there in that [[individual]] in his [[writing]] that you felt it was [[necessary]] to [[share]] your [[truth]] with. That is [[good]]. It may be useful, after tonight's meeting, to [[share]] some of those [[experiences]] that each of you have had. And next week, before our meeting begins, share those experiences that you have had during the week and how they have transpired. And, I am sure that as you share those [[experiences]], you will all [[learn]] from that just as much as you could possibly learn from me telling you what I know. [[Experience]] is a great [[teacher]] and those [[shared]] experiences can help you all to [[learn]] how this [[process]] works, and it does. Are there further questions?

===='''''[[Circuits]]'''''====

===='''''[[Circuits]]'''''====

Student: Hi, Signa. This is Albert. I got the [[feeling]] that there were more [[spiritual]] [[agencies]] at [[work]] now than there have been in the [[past]], with the opening of the [[Circuits|communication channels]]. Could you [[describe]] them and what they do?

Student: Hi, Signa. This is Albert. I got the [[feeling]] that there were more [[spiritual]] [[agencies]] at [[work]] now than there have been in the [[past]], with the opening of the [[Circuits|communication channels]]. Could you [[describe]] them and what they do?

Nothing, absolutely nothing, of that [[nature]] can possibly occur in [[this universe]], or in any of the [[super-universes]] of [[time and space]]. It is an impossibility. So, you have that [[free will]]. Do not [[feel]] that you are being [[forced]] into anything. You do have the [[ability]], and the [[power]], and the [[freedom]] to say "no". Likewise, you have the [[power]] and ability and freedom to say "Yes, I wish to help [[this planet]] regain its [[equilibrium]], regain its place within the [[evolving planets]] of [[this system]]." Does that help . .

Nothing, absolutely nothing, of that [[nature]] can possibly occur in [[this universe]], or in any of the [[super-universes]] of [[time and space]]. It is an impossibility. So, you have that [[free will]]. Do not [[feel]] that you are being [[forced]] into anything. You do have the [[ability]], and the [[power]], and the [[freedom]] to say "no". Likewise, you have the [[power]] and ability and freedom to say "Yes, I wish to help [[this planet]] regain its [[equilibrium]], regain its place within the [[evolving planets]] of [[this system]]." Does that help . .

===='''''[[Atheism]]'''''====

===='''''[[Atheism]]''''', '''''[[Materialism]]'''''====

STUDENT: Bertrand, I wanted to ask you a [[question]] about people that I have met that are [[atheists]], that do not [[believe]] in [[God]], and believe that all that we have now is all that there is and that there is [[beauty]] in a sunset and that there are beautiful trees. When I talk with someone like that and I [[share]] my [[faith]], I feel like I can't continue because I don't know where to go from there.

STUDENT: Bertrand, I wanted to ask you a [[question]] about people that I have met that are [[atheists]], that do not [[believe]] in [[God]], and believe that all that we have now is all that there is and that there is [[beauty]] in a sunset and that there are beautiful trees. When I talk with someone like that and I [[share]] my [[faith]], I feel like I can't continue because I don't know where to go from there.

STUDENT: Bertrand, I have a [[question]], which is off the subject. I was [[reading]] the [[Ham]] tapes this weekend. Ham tells us that the [[Apostle Andrew]] had taken meticulous notes of the [[experience]] with [[Jesus]] and even now, is concerned with the [[work]] that he had begun on [[the planet]]. Since The [[Urantia Book]] tells us that [[Andrew, the Apostle|Andrew]]'s work was lost, could you tell us if his notes are still intact and if so, where we might find them.

STUDENT: Bertrand, I have a [[question]], which is off the subject. I was [[reading]] the [[Ham]] tapes this weekend. Ham tells us that the [[Apostle Andrew]] had taken meticulous notes of the [[experience]] with [[Jesus]] and even now, is concerned with the [[work]] that he had begun on [[the planet]]. Since The [[Urantia Book]] tells us that [[Andrew, the Apostle|Andrew]]'s work was lost, could you tell us if his notes are still intact and if so, where we might find them.

BERTRAND: No. His works were lost. The [[midwayers]], and some of the recording [[angels]], were able to reconstruct his [[history]] of [[Jesus]] [[mission]] here and used quite a bit of it as a basis for the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus fourth section] of The [[Urantia Book]]. So, in [[essence]], much of it is right there.

BERTRAND: No. His works were lost. The [[midwayers]], and some of the recording [[angels]], were able to reconstruct his [[history]] of [[Jesus]] [[mission]] here and used quite a bit of it as a basis for the [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus fourth section] of The [[Urantia Book]]. So, in [[essence]], much of it is right there.

===Closing===

===Closing===

BERTRAND: If there are no [[questions]], I wish to leave you with this [[thought]] this evening:

BERTRAND: If there are no [[questions]], I wish to leave you with this [[thought]] this evening:

[[Michael]] was one man, and granted, he was a [[Creator Son]]. But, for the greatest [[majority]] of his life on [[Urantia]], that was not apparent to him. He had an [[idea]], but it wasn't totally made [[manifest]] to him until his [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_136 baptism by John]. As he passed by, in his early ministry, with the spreading of his [[good]] [[cheer]], a [[smile]], a friendly [[gesture]], a helping hand, he was able to lift the spirits of all those that he met. He was continually looking for [[opportunities]] to serve his [[Siblings|brothers and his sisters]] on [[this planet]]. It was a foremost [[thought]] in his [[conscious]] [[mind]]. And as you go throughout this week, hold that [[thought]] also in your mind. Look for ways that you can help your brothers and your sisters. Be [[sincere]], be [[loving]]. And let us [[speak]] again next week of these matters at the opening of our class. . . . I bid you [[farewell]] this for evening.

[[Michael]] was one man, and granted, he was a [[Creator Son]]. But, for the greatest [[majority]] of his life on [[Urantia]], that was not apparent to him. He had an [[idea]], but it wasn't totally made [[manifest]] to him until his [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_136 baptism by John]. As he passed by, in his early ministry, with the spreading of his [[good]] [[cheer]], a [[smile]], a friendly [[gesture]], a helping hand, he was able to lift the spirits of all those that he met. He was continually looking for [[opportunities]] to serve his [[Siblings|brothers and his sisters]] on [[this planet]]. It was a foremost [[thought]] in his [[conscious]] [[mind]]. And as you go throughout this week, hold that [[thought]] also in your mind. Look for ways that you can help your brothers and your sisters. Be [[sincere]], be [[loving]]. And let us [[speak]] again next week of these matters at the opening of our class. . . . I bid you [[farewell]] this for evening.

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