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===='''''[[Leadership]]''''', '''''[[Discernment]]'''''====

===='''''[[Leadership]]''''', '''''[[Discernment]]'''''====

*How Can A Jim Jones Happen?

*How Can A Jim Jones Happen?

STUDENT: I have another question about the [[Spirit of Truth]]. If it is there for everyone, how can things happen like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_jones Jim Jones] many years ago? Where a religious [[cult]] went to Mexico or somewhere and they ended up all committing [[suicide]] with cyanide, voluntarily or involuntarily. If these are people who are seeking, how can you be so misled? How does that happen?

STUDENT: I have another question about the [[Spirit of Truth]]. If it is there for everyone, how can things happen like [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_jones Jim Jones] many years ago? Where a religious [[cult]] went to Mexico or somewhere and they ended up all committing [[suicide]] with cyanide, voluntarily or involuntarily. If these are people who are seeking, how can you be so misled? How does that happen?

BERTRAND: The [[desire]] for [[truth]] is strong in many people. There are also, unfortunately, on [[this planet]], and it is not [[unique]] here, where a particularly [[Demagogue|powerful personality]]--personality is used very loosely here--more your [[definition]] than a [[cosmic]] definition of [[personality]]. A personality comes to the forefront who has the [[ability]] to [[persuade]] people, to talk a [[good]] [[story]], to be [[believed]]. It has happened throughout the [[ages]], some of these men have become powerful [[leaders]] and have sent to ruin almost entire [[races]] of people. You must be [[discerning]] in who you follow. You must [[listen]] for the [[truth]] in what they say. You must [[listen]] for [[God]] in their [[voice]]. It is a difficult [[problem]] when strong [[spiritual]] [[teachers]], those who are real, do not exist on a [[planet]] such as this. On one hand you have great [[desire]] for truth, on the other hand, you have no-one to [[lead]] in the true [[light]], like [[Jesus]]. And so, anytime someone comes up and stands there and shows a [[forceful]] [[personality]], many will follow. If we were in a [[normal]] [[planet]], the spiritual light would be brighter, and the [[error]] that has occurred in the [[experience]] that you described, would stand out [[clearer]] against this background of [[spirit]] [[luminosity]]. Does that help your question?

BERTRAND: The [[desire]] for [[truth]] is strong in many people. There are also, unfortunately, on [[this planet]], and it is not [[unique]] here, where a particularly [[Demagogue|powerful personality]]--personality is used very loosely here--more your [[definition]] than a [[cosmic]] definition of [[personality]]. A personality comes to the forefront who has the [[ability]] to [[persuade]] people, to talk a [[good]] [[story]], to be [[believed]]. It has happened throughout the [[ages]], some of these men have become powerful [[leaders]] and have sent to ruin almost entire [[races]] of people. You must be [[discerning]] in who you follow. You must [[listen]] for the [[truth]] in what they say. You must [[listen]] for [[God]] in their [[voice]]. It is a difficult [[problem]] when strong [[spiritual]] [[teachers]], those who are real, do not exist on a [[planet]] such as this. On one hand you have great [[desire]] for truth, on the other hand, you have no-one to [[lead]] in the true [[light]], like [[Jesus]]. And so, anytime someone comes up and stands there and shows a [[forceful]] [[personality]], many will follow. If we were in a [[normal]] [[planet]], the spiritual light would be brighter, and the [[error]] that has occurred in the [[experience]] that you described, would stand out [[clearer]] against this background of [[spirit]] [[luminosity]]. Does that help your question?

===='''''[[Accountability]]''''', '''''[[Rehabilitation]]'''''====

===='''''[[Accountability]]''''', '''''[[Rehabilitation]]'''''====

*Is A Hitler Accountable?

*Is A Hitler Accountable?

STUDENT: Bertrand, kind of along those lines. In The [[Urantia Book]] it says something about that you need to be accountable for your [[actions]], or something like that. People who have misled or caused a lot a [[deaths]], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler Hitler]– that type of thing– are they [[accountable]]? Do they have to somehow make amends to every [[person]] that they caused to die or [[tortured]] or whatever. Do they have to be [[forgiven]] by them?

STUDENT: Bertrand, kind of along those lines. In The [[Urantia Book]] it says something about that you need to be accountable for your [[actions]], or something like that. People who have misled or caused a lot a [[deaths]], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler Hitler]– that type of thing– are they [[accountable]]? Do they have to somehow make amends to every [[person]] that they caused to die or [[tortured]] or whatever. Do they have to be [[forgiven]] by them?

BERTRAND: They must [[realize]] and [[understand]] the [[error]] of what they caused on [[this planet]] and they must seek the [[mercy]] of the [[heavenly Father]]. In doing so, a certain part of them does ask for [[personal]] [[forgiveness]] of each person that they harmed. It is [[difficult]] to [[describe]] the particular workings of [[rehabilitation]] on the [[morontia spheres]] because it is so much [[different]] than your [[rehabilitation]] in your earthly [[prisons]]. You have no mental [[concept]] of how it could occur. That is the best I can do for you.

BERTRAND: They must [[realize]] and [[understand]] the [[error]] of what they caused on [[this planet]] and they must seek the [[mercy]] of the [[heavenly Father]]. In doing so, a certain part of them does ask for [[personal]] [[forgiveness]] of each person that they harmed. It is [[difficult]] to [[describe]] the particular workings of [[rehabilitation]] on the [[morontia spheres]] because it is so much [[different]] than your [[rehabilitation]] in your earthly [[prisons]]. You have no mental [[concept]] of how it could occur. That is the best I can do for you.

===='''''[[Temperament]]''''', '''''[[Guidance]]'''''====

===='''''[[Temperament]]''''', '''''[[Guidance]]'''''====

*Are We Drawn To Types of Service?

*Are We Drawn To Types of Service?

STUDENT: Good evening, I'd like to ask you a little bit about your lesson tonight. People keep going through my mind like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Theresa Mother Theresa] and I may be [[repeating]] [[Veronica]]'s question, I'm not sure, but is there a [[difference]] in those who chose to serve [[physically]], taking care of those who are [[sick]] and [[Poor|needy]], rather than those who are spreading the [[word]] of [[God]], or am I already going to answer my question by saying perhaps we are living out what [[God]] would want us to do and that's how people will see our [[light]] or [[understand]] God's [[message]]? Could you work that out a little bit for me?

STUDENT: Good evening, I'd like to ask you a little bit about your lesson tonight. People keep going through my mind like [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Theresa Mother Theresa] and I may be [[repeating]] [[Veronica]]'s question, I'm not sure, but is there a [[difference]] in those who chose to serve [[physically]], taking care of those who are [[sick]] and [[Poor|needy]], rather than those who are spreading the [[word]] of [[God]], or am I already going to answer my question by saying perhaps we are living out what [[God]] would want us to do and that's how people will see our [[light]] or [[understand]] God's [[message]]? Could you work that out a little bit for me?

BERTRAND: Yes. The requirement is to serve to your [[capacity]], to serve to your [[leading]]. Obviously, the mortal [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Theresa Mother Theresa] has a powerful [[leading]] that draws her into her type of [[service]]. She is willing and able to totally give of her [[time]] and [[effort]] into the starving millions in India. [[Service]] on other levels can be equally complete, [[equally]] satisfying, equally loving as [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Theresa Mother Theresa]. The important issue here is to follow the [[leading]] to your [[capacity]]. You would not [[expect]] a young child to drive a car, but once they have [[experience]], once they have a certain amount of [[growth]], then that can be possible. Once we have [[growth]], whether here on [[this planet]] or on the [[morontia worlds]], we [[learn]], we [[grow]], our [[capacity]] increases as we [[progress]] farther, as well as our [[capacity]] for [[service]]. It is only important that you serve when led, just [[listen]] for that [[leading]]. Does that help?  

BERTRAND: Yes. The requirement is to serve to your [[capacity]], to serve to your [[leading]]. Obviously, the mortal [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Theresa Mother Theresa] has a powerful [[leading]] that draws her into her type of [[service]]. She is willing and able to totally give of her [[time]] and [[effort]] into the starving millions in India. [[Service]] on other levels can be equally complete, [[equally]] satisfying, equally loving as [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Theresa Mother Theresa]. The important issue here is to follow the [[leading]] to your [[capacity]]. You would not [[expect]] a young child to drive a car, but once they have [[experience]], once they have a certain amount of [[growth]], then that can be possible. Once we have [[growth]], whether here on [[this planet]] or on the [[morontia worlds]], we [[learn]], we [[grow]], our [[capacity]] increases as we [[progress]] farther, as well as our [[capacity]] for [[service]]. It is only important that you serve when led, just [[listen]] for that [[leading]]. Does that help?  

STUDENT: Yes, thank you.

STUDENT: Yes, thank you.

STUDENT: Bertrand, before the [[meeting]] actually officially got started, I was [[sharing]]...oh Signa, sorry...about the [[changes]], [[turbulence]], things going on with the other [[classes]] and the [[Teaching Mission]] in general. I was [[wondering]] if you might have anything to add or report or [[share]] about it?

STUDENT: Bertrand, before the [[meeting]] actually officially got started, I was [[sharing]]...oh Signa, sorry...about the [[changes]], [[turbulence]], things going on with the other [[classes]] and the [[Teaching Mission]] in general. I was [[wondering]] if you might have anything to add or report or [[share]] about it?

SIGNA: It is to be expected that [[truth]] seeking [[minds]], spirit indwelt minds, [[God]] knowing, and God [[desirous]] minds, should have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebb_and_flow ebbs and flows] of their [[belief]] [[structure]]. It is [[expected]] that there will be those who come in and go out of the [[Teaching Mission]], not just [[students]], [[transmitter-receivers]] also, but it is [[normal]]. It is a [[reaction]] of normal [[skepticism]] that is [[natural]] within you all. It is also the [[activity]] of free-will [[choice]]. It is something that should be [[rejoiced]] upon rather than concerned with, for it is truly the [[proof]] that there are no requirements upon any of you. You may come and you may go. We do not require your attendance. We [[love]] your attendance. We [[love]] to be of [[service]] to you, but you are free-will [[individuals]] and can [[choose]] to go about your earthly affairs outside of the [[Teaching Mission]]. Does that help you?

SIGNA: It is to be expected that [[truth]] seeking [[minds]], spirit indwelt minds, [[God]] knowing, and God [[desirous]] minds, should have [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebb_and_flow ebbs and flows] of their [[belief]] [[structure]]. It is [[expected]] that there will be those who come in and go out of the [[Teaching Mission]], not just [[students]], [[transmitter-receivers]] also, but it is [[normal]]. It is a [[reaction]] of normal [[skepticism]] that is [[natural]] within you all. It is also the [[activity]] of free-will [[choice]]. It is something that should be [[rejoiced]] upon rather than concerned with, for it is truly the [[proof]] that there are no requirements upon any of you. You may come and you may go. We do not require your attendance. We [[love]] your attendance. We [[love]] to be of [[service]] to you, but you are free-will [[individuals]] and can [[choose]] to go about your earthly affairs outside of the [[Teaching Mission]]. Does that help you?

*Abraham Has Been Here 14 Years

*Abraham Has Been Here 14 Years

STUDENT: Signa, I'd like to ask you about [[Abraham]]. How long has he been back here?

STUDENT: Signa, I'd like to ask you about [[Abraham]]. How long has he been back here?