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A: The answer to that, (S), is manifold, but there are two main areas of [[consideration]]. The first - and by far most common category of such persons - are those who spend an inordinate amount of their [[time]] and energy in the pursuit of [[gratification]] of [[animal]] urges - [[greed]], [[pride]], [[fear]], [[anger]] - these all are animal drives and result in excess when unchecked, the full cup that [[Jesus]] referred to. A full cup will drown our [[spiritual growth]]. As spiritual growth slows down or ceases as a result of lack of [[effort]] and striving, the [[individual]] with the full cup [[experiences]] black [[depression]], as if a [[light]] has been switched off. No [[material]] being can live for long with not a shred of spiritual [[happiness]]. And, indeed, such persons very often kill themselves in one way or another, destroy themselves, for such an [[existence]] is intolerable. There are, of course, gradations, and by no means do all such persons become [[suicidal]]. But the one that seems ever [[depressed]] and unhappy, [[angry]], gloomy, downcast, sorrowful, without [[hope]] - in one way or other - may well be [[suffering]] from over [[investment]] in the [[material]] and under investment in the [[spiritual]]. The way out for such persons is to become active and [[creative]], [[physically]], [[emotionally]], mentally, spiritually. That is the way. The second great category - although far smaller - of persons who become depressed are those whose cellular [[chemistry]] is [[dysfunctional]], as you said, an [[organic]] basis. At this point in [[Urantia]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biotechnology bio-technology] there is virtually no [[understanding]] of how this system [[functions]] other than a tiny awareness of its [[existence]]. Very little can be done at this [[point]]. But Father loves all his [[creatures]] and those who are spiritually [[lazy]] are loved, as are those who are materially [[diseased]] or deficient. Does spiritual [[laziness]] cause [[organic]] [[depression]]? Yes, because the [[health]] of the [[soul]] is crucial to the [[health]] of the [[body]] and its components. So, yes. If you could measure abnormalities in [[function]] - [[chemical]] abnormalities, [[electrical]] abnormalities - you would find them in the first group [[discussed]] as well as the second. Does that answer? (Yes.) (01/24/93)

A: The answer to that, (S), is manifold, but there are two main areas of [[consideration]]. The first - and by far most common category of such persons - are those who spend an inordinate amount of their [[time]] and energy in the pursuit of [[gratification]] of [[animal]] urges - [[greed]], [[pride]], [[fear]], [[anger]] - these all are animal drives and result in excess when unchecked, the full cup that [[Jesus]] referred to. A full cup will drown our [[spiritual growth]]. As spiritual growth slows down or ceases as a result of lack of [[effort]] and striving, the [[individual]] with the full cup [[experiences]] black [[depression]], as if a [[light]] has been switched off. No [[material]] being can live for long with not a shred of spiritual [[happiness]]. And, indeed, such persons very often kill themselves in one way or another, destroy themselves, for such an [[existence]] is intolerable. There are, of course, gradations, and by no means do all such persons become [[suicidal]]. But the one that seems ever [[depressed]] and unhappy, [[angry]], gloomy, downcast, sorrowful, without [[hope]] - in one way or other - may well be [[suffering]] from over [[investment]] in the [[material]] and under investment in the [[spiritual]]. The way out for such persons is to become active and [[creative]], [[physically]], [[emotionally]], mentally, spiritually. That is the way. The second great category - although far smaller - of persons who become depressed are those whose cellular [[chemistry]] is [[dysfunctional]], as you said, an [[organic]] basis. At this point in [[Urantia]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biotechnology bio-technology] there is virtually no [[understanding]] of how this system [[functions]] other than a tiny awareness of its [[existence]]. Very little can be done at this [[point]]. But Father loves all his [[creatures]] and those who are spiritually [[lazy]] are loved, as are those who are materially [[diseased]] or deficient. Does spiritual [[laziness]] cause [[organic]] [[depression]]? Yes, because the [[health]] of the [[soul]] is crucial to the [[health]] of the [[body]] and its components. So, yes. If you could measure abnormalities in [[function]] - [[chemical]] abnormalities, [[electrical]] abnormalities - you would find them in the first group [[discussed]] as well as the second. Does that answer? (Yes.) (01/24/93)

===HEALING, HEALTH & DISEASE===

===='''''[[Healing]]'''''====

S: You know the problems I have with my health. Could you have the Life Carriers assess me now and see how I am doing? I am trying to follow the instructions you gave me on holistic medicine - herbs, trace minerals, and so on - and I am feeling much better.

R: One moment please. [Pause] I am sorry to inform you that I am no longer [[permitted]] to assess [[health]] issues. This [[decision]] was high level, and for a myriad of reasons. This is not [[personal]] to you. (01/21/93)

R: One moment please. [Pause] I am sorry to inform you that I am no longer permitted to assess health issues. This decision was high level, and for a myriad of reasons. This is not personal to you. (01/21/93)

S: Rayson, I did a [[healing]] today for a man who has [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_disease Parkinson's disease], which you said was fine if I followed instructions. I'm [[wondering]], he has a [[woman]] who has been with him for a period of time who seems to be under a lot of [[stress]] whom I thought would benefit (from [[healing]]). I know she would [[accept]] it, and believes. They are not [[reading]] the [[Urantia Book]], but believe in [[God]] and go to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Methodist_Church Methodist Church]. Should I just do [[healing]] for someone who is [[receptive]] like that or should I [[clear]] it with you, or how do you [[feel]] about that?

S: Rayson, I did a healing today for a man who has Parkinson's disease, which you said was fine if I followed instructions. I'm wondering, he has a woman who has been with him for a period of time who seems to be under a lot of stress whom I thought would benefit (from healing). I know she would accept it, and believes. They are not reading the Urantia Book, but believe in God and go to the Methodist Church. Should I just do healing for someone who is receptive like that or should I clear it with you, or how do you feel about that?

A: I am not in charge of [[healing]]. This is up to teacher [[Ham]] to set the guidelines. I, however, am under the [[impression]] that it is up to each [[individual]] human to determine [[intuitively]] and after [[prayer]] and [[meditation]] if a person can benefit. I would be glad to ask, if you will give me a moment. [Long Pause]

A: I am not in charge of healing. This is up to teacher Ham to set the guidelines. I, however, am under the impression that it is up to each individual human to determine intuitively and after prayer and meditation if a person can benefit. I would be glad to ask, if you will give me a moment. [Long Pause]

S: Ham says that your [[skills]] will grow in determining the answers to these [[questions]]. After a short time of working with the [[healing]] [[energy]] you will know within yourself who will benefit. Until then you should ask him. He has given the OK for this woman.

S: Ham says that your skills will grow in determining the answers to these questions. After a short time of working with the healing energy you will know within yourself who will benefit. Until then you should ask him. He has given the OK for this woman.

Q: I have a follow-up question, Thank you very much. This man, because of his [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_disease Parkinson's disease], has been influenced to use a Chinese healer who has recommended that his hair be shaven, that he take certain teas, and has [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acupuncture acupuncture]. But primarily there is a suction cup placed on his skin, and they put a substance inside this lid which draws the fluids from the [[body]] to the skin. This is represented as a way of taking care of his Parkinson's disease. I recognize readily our normal medical care system. I only [[wonder]] if this is something that should be followed through by them or not?

A: If it helps some, why not? But do not give up his day job, so to speak. ([[laughter]])

 

A: If it helps some, why not? But do not give up his day job, so to speak. (laughter)

Q: Well that's what I suggested to him but I thought I would double-check with you.

Q: Well that's what I suggested to him but I thought I would double-check with you.

A: Many of the Eastern techniques are valid, (S). They work with energy channels that we do not recognize on the Western science. Blockages can contribute to the exacerbation of the disease, but what they have not done is to erase a disease totally. So the combination of the two will be beneficial for this gentleman. (Thank you)

A: Many of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_traditional_medicine Eastern techniques] are valid, (S). They work with energy [[channels]] that we do not [[recognize]] on the [[Western]] [[science]]. Blockages can contribute to the exacerbation of the [[disease]], but what they have not done is to erase a disease totally. So the combination of the two will be beneficial for this gentleman. (Thank you)

Q: Rayson, with regard to health, you mentioned that this has been a bad week for (T/R) in terms of energy. (Yes) And I was wondering if there were any messages from Ham to Mary through you that she'll be able to listen to.

Q: Rayson, with regard to [[health]], you mentioned that this has been a bad week for ([[T/R]]) in terms of [[energy]]. (Yes) And I was [[wondering]] if there were any [[messages]] from [[Ham]] to Mary through you that she'll be able to [[listen]] to.

A: I think she is aware of the mistakes. Mary has not gone for her energy replenishment treatment. [Note: this is a machine which purportedly converts negatively-charged blood cells into positively charged cells.]

A: I think she is aware of the mistakes. Mary has not gone for her energy replenishment treatment. [Note: this is a [[machine]] which purportedly converts negatively-charged blood cells into positively charged cells.]

S: Which she values.

S: Which she [[values]].

R: Which is valid, actually, physically; so is suffering from a depletion of that. In addition, she has made an error with her medication which will take a few weeks to correct. However, she is in no danger, but just low energy, and it is not - while uncomfortable, it is not threatening.

R: Which is valid, actually, [[physically]]; so is suffering from a depletion of that. In addition, she has made an [[error]] with her medication which will take a few weeks to correct. However, she is in no [[danger]], but just low [[energy]], and it is not - while uncomfortable, it is not threatening.

Q: Can you comment as to why the energy manipulation has a physical validity? We discussed that. Sometimes (T/R) doubts it, but goes under the same advice you gave to (S) which is "If it works, why stop it?" But you are a former physician yourself, and you are saying that it does have a physical validity to the human energy field? Can either you or Ham comment on why this is effective. Because it is ground-breaking technology.

Q: Can you comment as to why the [[energy]] [[manipulation]] has a [[physical]] [[validity]]? We discussed that. Sometimes ([[T/R]]) [[doubts]] it, but goes under the same [[advice]] you gave to (S) which is "If it works, why stop it?" But you are a former [[physician]] yourself, and you are saying that it does have a [[physical]] validity to the human [[energy]] field? Can either you or [[Ham]] comment on why this is [[effective]]. Because it is ground-breaking [[technology]].

A: Because your cells are all electrically charged, because in a healthy cell the charge is a plus charge, in an unhealthy cell it is a minus charge. This device, while not permanent, is a way of temporarily restoring a cell from a minus to a plus charge, thereby tricking that cell into performing as a healthy cell does.

A: Because your [[cells]] are all [[electrically]] charged, because in a [[healthy]] cell the charge is a plus charge, in an unhealthy cell it is a minus charge. This device, while not permanent, is a way of temporarily restoring a cell from a minus to a plus charge, thereby tricking that cell into performing as a healthy cell does.

Q: Would (T/R) benefit from dilantin as (S) and myself are taking, or is this more effective?

Q: Would ([[T/R]]) benefit from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilantin dilantin] as (S) and myself are taking, or is this more effective?

A: No, this is much more effective. In addition, it also stimulates growth of new healthy cells. It is because (T/R)'s immune system is so eroded that she must obtain her immune system from other sources.

A: No, this is much more effective. In addition, it also [[stimulates]] [[growth]] of new healthy cells. It is because ([[T/R]])'s [[immune]] system is so eroded that she must obtain her immune system from other sources.

S: From an external source?

S: From an external source?

Q: And she can use it daily without harm?

Q: And she can use it daily without harm?

A: Not daily. Not daily forever, daily for periods of time. Two weeks. It should be used twice a week, three times a week, at the most. There is no harm.

A: Not daily. Not daily forever, daily for periods of time. Two weeks. It should be used twice a week, three times a week, at the most. There is no [[harm]].

 

 

A: She would benefit if he were here. But not to his detriment.  

Q: Can she benefit from spiritual healing by (S) . ... ? (A: Always.) Does she need it?

Q. What about - Rayson, what about (S) and myself? Could we [[perform]] any substantial [[healing]] benefit for (T/R)? (

A: She would benefit if he were here. But not to his detriment. Q. What about - Rayson, what about (S) and myself? Could we perform any substantial healing benefit for (T/R)? (A: Yes.) Would you recommend that? (A: Yes.) How often?

A: Yes.) Would you recommend that? (A: Yes.) How often?

A: Once a week for 15 minutes to 20 minutes. (Wonderful)

A: Once a week for 15 minutes to 20 minutes. (Wonderful)

Q: Would it be better, Rayson, if they both performed the treatment at the same time, or it would be equally beneficial if they took turns, or what would you recommend?

Q: Would it be better, Rayson, if they both performed the treatment at the same time, or it would be equally beneficial if they took turns, or what would you recommend?

A: Let us try together.

A: Let us try [[together]].

Q: Where would you suggest we place our hands?

Q: Where would you suggest we place our hands?

A: On the head and back, mid-back area.

A: On the head and back, mid-back area.

Q: Rayson, as we make our physical technological breakthroughs - for example, there is a company that wishes to have a tiara of satellites in space to allow digital phone communication from any place on the planet that - I mean from the most remote jungle - and I was wondering, when you speak in terms of the circuits being re-established, is it a classic example of "as above, so below?" As we re-establish those circuits which have been closed for so long, in human terms, filtered down, watered down, to a much lesser degree, we seem to parallel the spiritual through our technological abilities. Is this also occurring as we experience the healing that (T/R) is receiving? Has that always been the case, "as above, so below?" The spiritual implies the physical and all the technology in it?

Q: Rayson, as we make our [[physical]] [[technological]] breakthroughs - for example, there is a company that wishes to have a tiara of [[satellites]] in space to allow digital phone [[communication]] from any place on [[the planet]] that - I mean from the most remote jungle - and I was wondering, when you speak in terms of the [[circuits]] being re-established, is it a classic example of "as above, so below?" As we re-establish those [[circuits]] which have been closed for so long, in human terms, filtered down, watered down, to a much lesser [[degree]], we seem to [[parallel]] the spiritual through our [[technological]] abilities. Is this also occurring as we [[experience]] the [[healing]] that (T/R) is receiving? Has that always been the case, "as above, so below?" The spiritual implies the physical and all the technology in it?

A: Yes. Yes. [Note: Merlin (the dog) feels left out and injects himself forcefully onto a couch from which he is summarily ejected]

A: Yes. Yes. [Note: Merlin (the dog) feels left out and injects himself forcefully onto a couch from which he is summarily ejected]

R: Perhaps this is an omen. We will bid farewell so that we may participate in the remembrance supper. Thank you brothers and sisters for this time together, and we will all be praying and worshiping with you. Farewell. (04/25/93)

R: Perhaps this is an [[omen]]. We will bid [[farewell]] so that we may participate in the [[remembrance supper]]. Thank you [[brothers and sisters]] for this time together, and we will all be praying and [[worshiping]] with you. [[Farewell]]. (04/25/93)

===HEALTH AND DISEASE===

===HEALTH AND DISEASE===