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== Session==
 
== Session==
 
===Opening===
 
===Opening===
TARKAS: Good afternoon to all of you. This is Tarkas, your [[teacher]]. I am pleased to see so many gathered today on such a [[beautiful]] day. There is much [[love]] and light present in this room following our beautiful prayer. I'd like for you to take a moment and feel the [[energy]] that is present in this room now. Think about this in relation to the Father's love.
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TARKAS: Good afternoon to all of you. This is Tarkas, your [[teacher]]. I am pleased to see so many gathered today on such a [[beautiful]] day. There is much [[love]] and [[light]] present in this room following our [[beautiful]] [[prayer]]. I'd like for you to take a [[moment]] and [[feel]] the [[energy]] that is present in this room now. Think about this in relation to [[the Father]]'s love.
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I am pleased that we are beginning our sessions with [[prayer]]. As you know and we have discussed, the [[group]] process in prayer is important, as well as your [[individual]] prayers. We have begun to meet on a more regular basis and I believe this will provide us an opportunity for the development of more unity within our group. We will need this type of interconnectedness and unity as we progress in our preparations for this mission.
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I am pleased that we are beginning our sessions with [[prayer]]. As you know and we have [[discussed]], the [[group]] [[process]] in [[prayer]] is important, as well as your [[individual]] prayers. We have begun to meet on a more regular basis and I believe this will provide us an [[opportunity]] for the [[development]] of more [[unity]] within our group. We will need this type of interconnectedness and unity as we [[progress]] in our [[preparations]] for [[this mission]].
 
===Prelude===
 
===Prelude===
We will be learning many [[things]] together. There are things that I learn as I work with each of you and your group and I hope that you are beginning to see what you will be learning as well. Our [[concepts]] are simple. To live them as an integral part of your life takes practice and much [[discipline]] and time. These may seem simple, this may seem uneventful to some. But developing these skills to the point that they are an integral part of your lives will prepare you for what lies ahead. There are many events ahead of us that will not be terribly exciting. They will require some work and effort. There are some, however, that will be very exciting for all of us.
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We will be learning many [[things]] together. There are things that I learn as I work with each of you and your group and I [[hope]] that you are beginning to see what you will be learning as well. Our [[concepts]] are [[simple]]. To live them as an integral part of your life takes [[practice]] and much [[discipline]] and time. These may seem simple, this may seem uneventful to some. But developing these [[skills]] to the point that they are an integral part of your lives will [[prepare]] you for what lies ahead. There are many [[events]] ahead of us that will not be terribly exciting. They will require some [[work]] and [[effort]]. There are some, however, that will be very [[exciting]] for all of us.
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There will be times that are easier than others. You must prepare for this process . ..for these ups and downs. You must develop your own personal [[communion]] with the Father and [[God-Consciousness]] to sustain you individually and your group will continue to grow closer and serve a support for one another.
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There will be times that are easier than others. You must [[prepare]] for this [[process]] . ..for these ups and downs. You must develop your own personal [[communion]] with [[the Father]] and [[God-Consciousness]] to sustain you individually and your group will continue to [[grow]] closer and serve a [[support]] for one another.
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There are many here, and there are many with you all the [[time]] now, supporting your growth, sharing with you as they are able. Several in your group are receiving [[communication]] and I hope that soon, perhaps at the next meeting in two weeks, that one or another may be willing to do a portion of the meeting. There is a process of practice and gaining confidence and I trust that each in this group will be supportive of the individuals in that process. They will play an important role in allowing us to communicate our [[words]] to you.
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There are many here, and there are many with you all the [[time]] now, [[supporting]] your [[growth]], sharing with you as they are able. Several in your group are receiving [[communication]] and I hope that soon, perhaps at the next meeting in two weeks, that one or another may be willing to do a portion of the [[meeting]]. There is a process of [[practice]] and gaining [[confidence]] and I [[trust]] that each in this group will be supportive of the individuals in that process. They will play an important role in allowing us to [[communicate]] our [[words]] to you.
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I want to commend you on the efforts you have made thus far to share with those with whom you are close, and who have been a part of this group for some time, the words of other [[teachers]] and the words from our meetings.
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I want to commend you on the [[efforts]] you have made thus far to [[share]] with those with whom you are close, and who have been a part of this [[group]] for some time, the [[words]] of other [[teachers]] and the words from our meetings.
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I believe you have done much to organize yourselves and make this come together smoothly. I thank each of you who have opened your [[home]]s to hold readings, small or large. These things are all important to make this possible for us to learn together. Each of these deeds that you have done, to bring something to eat, to purchase something to allow this communication to be heard by all, whatever your role has been, it has been important. No task or deed is small in the Father's eyes.
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I [[believe]] you have done much to [[organize]] yourselves and make this come together smoothly. I thank each of you who have opened your [[home]]s to hold readings, small or large. These things are all important to make this possible for us to learn together. Each of these deeds that you have done, to bring something to eat, to purchase something to allow this [[communication]] to be heard by all, whatever your role has been, it has been important. No task or deed is small in [[the Father]]'s eyes.
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We will be starting to do a series of lessons now that we are meeting on a more regular basis, and now that you are beginning to practice your prayer and [[worship]]. Continue to reread the messages pertaining to this. Continue to practice these things daily. Bring your questions to these groups or to those in your group who are beginning to receive. Soon we will be able to have many individual sessions as you will have several in your group who are able to provide this role for you. This will allow us to get to know one another individually as well as in the group.
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We will be starting to do a [[series]] of lessons now that we are [[meeting]] on a more regular basis, and now that you are beginning to [[practice]] your [[prayer]] and [[worship]]. Continue to reread the messages pertaining to this. Continue to practice these things daily. Bring your questions to these groups or to those in your group who are beginning to [[receive]]. Soon we will be able to have many [[individual]] sessions as you will have several in your group who are able to provide this role for you. This will allow us to get to know one another individually as well as in the group.
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There are many here tonight and several have requested to speak. I would prefer to have them speak at the end, if time permits. I am undecided as to whether it would be best to begin with the lesson at this moment or to allow a few minutes of questions first. What is your preference as a group? Do you have questions from previous lessons before we start on today's lesson? (response to negative) Then we will begin a lesson.
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There are many here tonight and several have requested to speak. I would prefer to have them speak at the end, if time [[permits]]. I am undecided as to whether it would be best to begin with the lesson at this moment or to allow a few minutes of [[questions]] first. What is your preference as a group? Do you have questions from previous lessons before we start on today's lesson? (response to [[negative]]) Then we will begin a lesson.
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===='''''[[Materialization]]''''', '''''[[Melchizedek Schools]]'''''====
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Before I begin this lesson, I do wish to comment on an upcoming [[event]]. Some of you have heard about this event, but I am unsure as to whether all have been informed. We have been making claims for some time for an [[opportunity]] for a [[Melchizedek]] to be viewed on your world. The [[plans]] have become more formalized and the date has been established. There will be a [[materialization]] of a Melchizedeck in April on the 24th. The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naperville,_Illinois Naperville] group in Chicago will host this [[event]]. There will be two additional [[materializations]] at [[different]] locations in your country. These dates are not yet known. This [[event]] has required much planning; it has required much [[discussion]]. We have tried to foresee all the ramifications and to take measures that we are able to take to [[assure]] a [[positive]] outcome.
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Before I begin this lesson, I do wish to comment on an upcoming event. Some of you have heard about this event, but I am unsure as to whether all have been informed. We have been making claims for some time for an opportunity for a Melchizedeck to be viewed on your world. The plans have become more formalized and the date has been established. There will be a materialization of a Melchizedeck in April on the 24th. The Naperville group in Chicago will host this event. There will be two additional materializations at different locations in your country. These dates are not yet known. This event has required much planning; it has required much discussion. We have tried to foresee all the ramifications and to take measures that we are able to take to assure a positive outcome.
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It is the [[consensus]] of those involved in [[this mission]] that this step is an important one. It should not be used to be a basis of your [[commitment]] to this mission for we will not have this kind of [[event]] on a routine basis. You will need to rely on your own [[communion]], [[worship]], and [[prayer]] for your day-to-day [[function]] in [[this mission]].
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It is the consensus of those involved in this mission that this step is an important one. It should not be used to be a basis of your commitment to this mission for we will not have this kind of event on a routine basis. You will need to rely on your own [[communion]], worship, and prayer for your day-to-day function in this mission.
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There are different [[reactions]] that [[individual]]s will have to this [[event]]. Some may find it too [[alarming]] to consider participating. Some may [[block]] the event due to [[fears]] inside them. We [[share]] this with you today so that you might [[understand]] why we are [[anxious]] to lay some [[foundation]] with you. Things in [[the mission]] are moving along quite well and much lies ahead, some of which I know about and some of which I am not even [[aware]] of.
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There are different reactions that [[individual]]s will have to this event. Some may find it too alarming to consider participating. Some may block the event due to fears inside them. We share this with you today so that you might understand why we are anxious to lay some foundation with you. Things in the mission are moving along quite well and much lies ahead, some of which I know about and some of which I am not even aware of.
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You must [[discipline]] yourself in the next few months to master some of what we are [[learning]] so that you might [[grow]] spiritually and [[prepare]] for what lies ahead. There are many exciting and [[eventful]] times ahead for us if you [[prepare]] yourself on as many levels as you are able. We have talked about overall [[health]], your [[diet]], your [[exercise]], your [[prayer]], [[worship]], your [[meditation]]. All play an important role in your daily [[existence]]. These things affect your overall [[health]] and well-being.
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You must [[discipline]] yourself in the next few months to master some of what we are learning so that you might grow spiritually and prepare for what lies ahead. There are many exciting and eventful times ahead for us if you prepare yourself on as many levels as you are able. We have talked about overall health, your diet, your exercise, your prayer, worship, your [[meditation]]. All play an important role in your daily existence. These things affect your overall health and well-being.
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We are hopeful that this event will [[strengthen]] each who is present. We [[recognize]] there will be some who are there merely as [[curiosity]] seekers. We are not [[limiting]] this event. We are not asking you to solicit huge numbers of [[individuals]]. We make you [[aware]] because you are part of a group that is in a geographical range that might consider attending this [[event]]. It is your individual [[decision]]. Your ability to function in [[this mission]], to grow spiritually, does not depend upon this attendance. Do not feel that this is something you must attend. There will be an outpouring of the [[Holy Spirit]], most [[intensely]] felt by those who are present. There will be spillover to others involved in [[the mission]]. This outpouring of the [[Holy spirit]] will happen at each [[materialization]].
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We are hopeful that this event will strengthen each who is present. We recognize there will be some who are there merely as curiosity seekers. We are not limiting this event. We are not asking you to solicit huge numbers of individuals. We make you aware because you are part of a group that is in a geographical range that might consider attending this event. It is your individual decision. Your ability to function in this mission, to grow spiritually, does not depend upon this attendance. Do not feel that this is something you must attend. There will be an outpouring of the [[Holy Spirit]], most intensely felt by those who are present. There will be spillover to others involved in the mission. This outpouring of the Holy spirit will happen at each materialization.
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There will be more details forthcoming. If you have a question pertaining to this I will entertain it at this [[point]]. And then I wish to proceed onto our lesson.
 
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There will be more details forthcoming. If you have a question pertaining to this I will entertain it at this point. And then I wish to proceed onto our lesson.
   
===Dialogue===
 
===Dialogue===
QUESTION: What will be the Melchizedeck's purpose for coming here?
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QUESTION: What will be the [[Melchizedek]]'s purpose for coming here?
 
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TARKAS: What purpose could you imagine this being for you?
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HUMAN: I can imagine many -- to lead and guide and teach. I can see that many might see this as a second Coming of Michael or as a false God, or as God, as many different things.
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TARKAS: What [[purpose]] could you [[imagine]] this being for you?
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TARKAS: This is always a risk with humans. You have a tendency to elevate the individual to a God-status. The [[Melchizedeks]] are not the Father but they do represent the Father in many ways.
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HUMAN: I can imagine many -- to lead and guide and teach. I can see that many might see this as a [[Second Coming]] of [[Michael]] or as a false God, or as God, as many [[different]] things.
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As you are aware, this mission you are beginning has many phases that reach far beyond what you, and probably I, can imagine at this [[moment]]. The goal is to make major changes in your world. In order to do this many things will need to be learned by you and much will need to be accomplished. There will eventually be schools when the Melchizedeks are on the face of your planet. These will prepare individuals to serve us and serve with us in this mission to bring about what needs to be changed.
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TARKAS: This is always a [[risk]] with humans. You have a tendency to elevate the [[individual]] to a [[God]]-status. The [[Melchizedeks]] are not [[the Father]] but they do [[represent]] [[the Father]] in many ways.
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This is indeed preparation for a time when Michael will also be present. Initially, he will be present for a brief appearance. Later we anticipate that he will return to be present for a longer period of time. As your planet evolves, we anticipate that his initial appearance here again may happen within the lifetime of many of you here.
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As you are [[aware]], [[this mission]] you are beginning has many [[phases]] that reach far beyond what you, and probably I, can [[imagine]] at this [[moment]]. The goal is to make major [[changes]] in your world. In order to do this many things will need to be learned by you and much will need to be accomplished. There will [[eventually]] be [[schools]] when the [[Melchizedeks]] are on the face of [[your planet]]. These will [[prepare]] [[individuals]] to serve us and serve with us in [[this mission]] to bring about what needs to be [[changed]].
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In preparation for this, we will have our April event. There is desire amongst many groups to be able to visualize their teachers and we understand that we will have that option after this event. Each group will deal with this as it is most appropriate within their group. Some groups are not desirous of this, at least not at this time.
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This is indeed [[preparation]] for a time when [[Michael]] will also be present. Initially, he will be present for a brief [[appearance]]. Later we [[anticipate]] that he will return to be present for a longer period of time. As [[your planet]] evolves, we [[anticipate]] that his initial appearance here again may happen within the lifetime of many of you here.
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There is no need for this to happen. Others feel they will be more able to communicate, feel closer, and have their [[experience]] bolstered. All of you will go through periods of doubt, and you will need to deal with this, work through this to decide where you stand in your own growth process spiritually and your continued effort to remain committed to what you believe to be true in your [[heart]].
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In [[preparation]] for this, we will have our [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1993-01-01-Rayson_%26_Friends,_Vol._2,_Part_1 April event]. There is [[desire]] amongst many [[groups]] to be able to visualize their [[teachers]] and we [[understand]] that we will have that option after this [[event]]. Each group will deal with this as it is most appropriate within their group. Some groups are not desirous of this, at least not at this time.
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There are many concerns. There is concern as to what would happen if this becomes well known. There will be some who will not believe. There will be some who ridicule those who do believe. You must in your own heart evaluate these things. It is more difficult for your group in some respects as you are at such an early stage. But I wish for you to have this [[information]] that you might make your own choices. Do you have a further comment about this?
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There is no need for this to happen. Others [[feel]] they will be more able to [[communicate]], feel closer, and have their [[experience]] bolstered. All of you will go through periods of [[doubt]], and you will need to deal with this, work through this to [[decide]] where you stand in your own [[growth]] [[process]] spiritually and your continued effort to remain [[committed]] to what you believe to be true in your [[heart]].
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QUESTION: I take that the Melchizedeck will be visible to us for a short period at this particular time? Will they appear for a longer time later?
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There are many concerns. There is concern as to what would happen if this becomes well known. There will be some who will not [[believe]]. There will be some who [[ridicule]] those who do believe. You must in your own [[heart]] [[evaluate]] these things. It is more difficult for your group in some respects as you are at such an early [[stage]]. But I wish for you to have this [[information]] that you might make your own [[choices]]. Do you have a further comment about this?
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TARKAS: The Melchizedecks will eventually hold their schools here. Yes, It will be a short period of time. We anticipate it being around an hour. It has not yet been finalized which Melchizedeck will be materialized.
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QUESTION: I take that the [[Melchizedek]] will be visible to us for a short period at this particular time? Will they appear for a longer time later?
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QUESTION: If the teachers were also to make themselves visible, then do they need the TR to speak to us, or can they speak to us directly?
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TARKAS: The [[Melchizedeks]] will [[eventually]] hold their [[schools]] here. Yes, It will be a short period of time. We [[anticipate]] it being around an hour. It has not yet been finalized which [[Melchizedek]] will be [[materialized]].
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===='''''[[Communication]]'''''====
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QUESTION: If [[the teachers]] were also to make themselves visible, then do they need the [[TR]] to speak to us, or can they speak to us directly?
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TARKAS: We would like at some point to be able to speak directly, but initially at least we will still need the services of the TR. The other purpose for this communication process is to prepare you or to bridge the gap for you, so to speak, in your ability to discern communication from your own [[Thought Adjuster]]. Several groups now have been assigned guides to individual members. Most members have guides in several groups now. So many in the group are seeking to develop this ability to receive.
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TARKAS: We would like at some [[point]] to be able to speak directly, but initially at least we will still need the services of the [[TR]]. The other [[purpose]] for this [[communication]] process is to prepare you or to bridge the gap for you, so to speak, in your ability to discern communication from your own [[Thought Adjuster]]. Several groups now have been assigned guides to individual members. Most members have guides in several groups now. So many in the group are seeking to develop this ability to [[receive]].
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You have several in your group now who are developing their ability and will serve in the role that Linda has served today and Michael has served previously. In time, you all will also receive guides and have the choice to develop this ability. Each of you is capable; it is a matter of your desire and practice. For those who wish to have this type of communication there will be support. In time, you all will grow much. You will grow in many ways to reach out.
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You have several in your [[group]] now who are [[developing]] their ability and will serve in the role that Linda has served today and Michael has served previously. In time, you all will also receive guides and have the [[choice]] to develop this ability. Each of you is capable; it is a matter of your [[desire]] and [[practice]]. For those who wish to have this type of [[communication]] there will be [[support]]. In time, you all will [[grow]] much. You will grow in many ways to reach out.
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Our purpose, as you know, is to develop your spiritual growth. A part of this purpose which we have been permitted to fill is to bring communication to you in this way and to evolve your several phases of communication to the point at which you will, or at least some of you will, be able to receive communication from your Thought Adjuster. This is not an automatic guarantee for each of you but an explanation as to why this communication is important for those who wish to pursue it.
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Our [[purpose]], as you know, is to develop your [[spiritual growth]]. A part of this [[purpose]] which we have been [[permitted]] to fill is to bring communication to you in this way and to evolve your several [[phases]] of communication to the point at which you will, or at least some of you will, be able to receive communication from your Thought Adjuster. This is not an automatic guarantee for each of you but an explanation as to why this communication is important for those who wish to pursue it.
    
HUMAN: This reminds me . .. this is actually partial fulfillment of a prophecy that I heard by some friends that I have not been in touch with for several years. They showed me that the Father was joining the heavens and the earth together. This was several years ago that I first heard this. And now, with this group and you, and seeing what seems to be the beginning phases of this prophecy . .. it's wonderful.
 
HUMAN: This reminds me . .. this is actually partial fulfillment of a prophecy that I heard by some friends that I have not been in touch with for several years. They showed me that the Father was joining the heavens and the earth together. This was several years ago that I first heard this. And now, with this group and you, and seeing what seems to be the beginning phases of this prophecy . .. it's wonderful.

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