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LinEL: It is not exactly that your "place" will [[change]] as that you yourself will become more fully [[centered]] in that place, which is already present from the [[Universal Father]] for you. Does this help?

LinEL: It is not exactly that your "place" will [[change]] as that you yourself will become more fully [[centered]] in that place, which is already present from the [[Universal Father]] for you. Does this help?

Jules: I don't know. What I think of is our countryside that we have here in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon Oregon] - the fields, and as you were saying to bring [[gifts]], I was bringing a couple of daffodils, I was bringing myself, and then, a couple of [[planets]] were added in the [[sky]], and then I thought but that's where I'm at now, 'cause that's [[beauty]] to me now, but maybe five years from now, when I go to my place it might evolve to something totally [[different]] from what I'm viewing in my head now.

Jules: I don't know. What I think of is our countryside that we have here in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon Oregon] - the fields, and as you were saying to bring [[gifts]], I was bringing a couple of daffodils, I was bringing myself, and then, a couple of [[planets]] were added in the [[sky]], and then I thought but that's where I'm at now, 'cause that's [[beauty]] to me now, but maybe five years from now, when I go to my place it might evolve to something totally [[different]] from what I'm viewing in my head now.

LinEL: One of the things, Julie, about your place is that it will enlarge so that all of what you now [[love]] and all of what you come to love will also be there, bigger and bigger, until you start to [[understand]] more of the [[eternity]] and [[infinity]] of [[the Father]] and his [[love]].

LinEL: One of the things, Julie, about your place is that it will enlarge so that all of what you now [[love]] and all of what you come to love will also be there, bigger and bigger, until you start to [[understand]] more of the [[eternity]] and [[infinity]] of [[the Father]] and his [[love]].

LinEL: Yes. Any of this, any of you, any time you [[share]] these thing, the [[good]] and the bad, all of these things, with each other you are growing between you the same [[connectedness]]... it cannot of course be the same as your [[relation]] with [[the Father]], but it has that [[love]], it is that [[truth and beauty and goodness]] which are all [[love]], it is making yourselves real to each other, and as that [[grows]] and the [[connections]] [[grow]], you [[feel]] it, feel this is [[the Supreme]] in its [[development]].

LinEL: Yes. Any of this, any of you, any time you [[share]] these thing, the [[good]] and the bad, all of these things, with each other you are growing between you the same [[connectedness]]... it cannot of course be the same as your [[relation]] with [[the Father]], but it has that [[love]], it is that [[truth and beauty and goodness]] which are all [[love]], it is making yourselves real to each other, and as that [[grows]] and the [[connections]] [[grow]], you [[feel]] it, feel this is [[the Supreme]] in its [[development]].

===='''''[[Frustration]]'''''====

===='''''[[Frustration]]'''''====

Delores: I was so [[frustrated]] today, LinEL, though, because the new people that I've been [[working]] with don't know me and if feels like my [[teaching]] [[patterns]] are forced to [[change]] in the workspace that I'm in now and I can't use my old [[methods]] because time works [[differently]] there and I was growing really [[frustrated]], but there was a [[comforting]] [[presence]] I was aware of more than once today beside me, and I felt confounded because I didn't feel like I could [[share]] that with anybody who I was working with. I couldn't say "Oh, LinEL's here!" And I knew it was you because then there was that [[voice]] over the telephone and she was spelling out L-i-n-n-e-l-l, yes, in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi Mississippi], and I'm going, "Wow, LinEL's in Mississippi", you know ([[laughter]]) . .. just a name over the telephone spoken out loud when I'm [[wondering]] about this [[presence]] that's visiting me all day today, but it was just a sense of [[frustration]] about how much I demand from the people around me that they deal with my [[sharing]] world, and they don't want to - they don't have the time and the inclination to give that much of themselves and that's really [[frustrating]] for me.

Delores: I was so [[frustrated]] today, LinEL, though, because the new people that I've been [[working]] with don't know me and if feels like my [[teaching]] [[patterns]] are forced to [[change]] in the workspace that I'm in now and I can't use my old [[methods]] because time works [[differently]] there and I was growing really [[frustrated]], but there was a [[comforting]] [[presence]] I was aware of more than once today beside me, and I felt confounded because I didn't feel like I could [[share]] that with anybody who I was working with. I couldn't say "Oh, LinEL's here!" And I knew it was you because then there was that [[voice]] over the telephone and she was spelling out L-i-n-n-e-l-l, yes, in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi Mississippi], and I'm going, "Wow, LinEL's in Mississippi", you know ([[laughter]]) . .. just a name over the telephone spoken out loud when I'm [[wondering]] about this [[presence]] that's visiting me all day today, but it was just a sense of [[frustration]] about how much I demand from the people around me that they deal with my [[sharing]] world, and they don't want to - they don't have the time and the inclination to give that much of themselves and that's really [[frustrating]] for me.

LinEL: Two things I would say to you aside from commenting that I did also [[enjoy]] this [[experience]]. First, is that when you have done the best that you can do at this time, and this doesn't mean [[perfection]], remember again, the [[acts]] are yours, the [[consequences]] are in [[the Father]]'s hands.([[48:7 Morontia Mota|48:7.13]]) This is not for you to do such that they [[respond]] perfectly, but for you to do with [[love]] and [[sincerity]], and when you have done that, you may let the [[consequences]] go. Secondly, it is also an [[opportunity]] to learn new ways to be more [[effective]] with [[different]] people under different [[circumstances]]. All of you will be finding this in your lives ahead, because as we [[progress]] in [[this mission]], indeed this precise kind of [[conundrum]] will occur again and again... how in this different circumstance can I [[reveal]] [[the Father]]? You will learn from these things, and my [[presence]] hopefully is a [[comfort]]. There are many [[presences]] for all of you. Your personal [[teachers]] are with you, [[the Father]] of course is always with you. Remember, drawing on these [[connections]] and [[strengthening]] them will help you in those [[moments]] when you [[face]] these [[struggles]]. It will become a thrilling [[challenge]], it will become an enjoyment almost like a [[puzzle]] to be solved in delight.

LinEL: Two things I would say to you aside from commenting that I did also [[enjoy]] this [[experience]]. First, is that when you have done the best that you can do at this time, and this doesn't mean [[perfection]], remember again, the [[acts]] are yours, the [[consequences]] are in [[the Father]]'s hands.([[48:7 Morontia Mota|48:7.13]]) This is not for you to do such that they [[respond]] perfectly, but for you to do with [[love]] and [[sincerity]], and when you have done that, you may let the [[consequences]] go. Secondly, it is also an [[opportunity]] to learn new ways to be more [[effective]] with [[different]] people under different [[circumstances]]. All of you will be finding this in your lives ahead, because as we [[progress]] in [[this mission]], indeed this precise kind of [[conundrum]] will occur again and again... how in this different circumstance can I [[reveal]] [[the Father]]? You will learn from these things, and my [[presence]] hopefully is a [[comfort]]. There are many [[presences]] for all of you. Your personal [[teachers]] are with you, [[the Father]] of course is always with you. Remember, drawing on these [[connections]] and [[strengthening]] them will help you in those [[moments]] when you [[face]] these [[struggles]]. It will become a thrilling [[challenge]], it will become an enjoyment almost like a [[puzzle]] to be solved in delight.

LinEL: This is an ongoing [[process]] which does not cease on this [[planet]] but continues beyond. You are seeking your [[image]] of [[the Father]]. You are seeking your [[images]] of [[ultimate]] [[truth, beauty, and goodness]]. They will continue to [[grow]]. I know it is [[difficult]] because that [[hunger]] makes you want the one, the one that will finally do this. You will not feel that [[satisfaction]] until you sit before [[the Father]] himself on [[Paradise]]. But, the [[process]], you will grow to [[treasure]] the [[growth]] of these [[concepts]], the changes in these [[images]], and they will become almost a [[film]], a [[tapestry]] of your search, your [[personal]] search. So do not be distressed if you do not find the "correct" one soon. Even in my terms. ([[Laughter]])

LinEL: This is an ongoing [[process]] which does not cease on this [[planet]] but continues beyond. You are seeking your [[image]] of [[the Father]]. You are seeking your [[images]] of [[ultimate]] [[truth, beauty, and goodness]]. They will continue to [[grow]]. I know it is [[difficult]] because that [[hunger]] makes you want the one, the one that will finally do this. You will not feel that [[satisfaction]] until you sit before [[the Father]] himself on [[Paradise]]. But, the [[process]], you will grow to [[treasure]] the [[growth]] of these [[concepts]], the changes in these [[images]], and they will become almost a [[film]], a [[tapestry]] of your search, your [[personal]] search. So do not be distressed if you do not find the "correct" one soon. Even in my terms. ([[Laughter]])

Barbara: Well, then I have a follow-up piggybacked onto that. There are certain [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_philosophy eastern philosophies] that I've heard about and [[studied]] about that recommend, for instance, a [[mantra]] that is given to an [[individual]] and kept through out a person's [[life]] to help guide to a [[sacred space]]. Is that not a correct way of [[thinking]] or is that limited or . ..?

Barbara: Well, then I have a follow-up piggybacked onto that. There are certain [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_philosophy eastern philosophies] that I've heard about and [[studied]] about that recommend, for instance, a [[mantra]] that is given to an [[individual]] and kept through out a person's [[life]] to help guide to a [[sacred space]]. Is that not a correct way of [[thinking]] or is that limited or . ..?

LinEL: This can be very serviceable in the beginning, but when you are on advanced [[stages]] such as all of you are, and you have the benefit of [[teachings]] from the [[Urantia book]] and these teachings that we bring you with [[this mission]], you are far beyond this use because there is always the [[danger]] of the [[static]], that lies in this. You are ready to seek, and search. However much unready you some days feel. You are ready to seek and search and to continue to [[grow]] and expand this, and a single [[mantra]] would, if used exclusively, make it [[difficult]] to do this. This does not mean you cannot [[invent]] your own phrases to use, but like your [[images]], you will find that you then find new phrases as [[meanings]] expand.

LinEL: This can be very serviceable in the beginning, but when you are on advanced [[stages]] such as all of you are, and you have the benefit of [[teachings]] from the [[Urantia book]] and these teachings that we bring you with [[this mission]], you are far beyond this use because there is always the [[danger]] of the [[static]], that lies in this. You are ready to seek, and search. However much unready you some days feel. You are ready to seek and search and to continue to [[grow]] and expand this, and a single [[mantra]] would, if used exclusively, make it [[difficult]] to do this. This does not mean you cannot [[invent]] your own phrases to use, but like your [[images]], you will find that you then find new phrases as [[meanings]] expand.

LinEL: That's right. You will all increasingly [[learn]] to do this, so that you can walk in the world with a piece of this [[stillness]] in your [[heart]] and shine it forth to others, even in the midst of [[chaos]].

LinEL: That's right. You will all increasingly [[learn]] to do this, so that you can walk in the world with a piece of this [[stillness]] in your [[heart]] and shine it forth to others, even in the midst of [[chaos]].

This is [[growing]] in all of you. When you feel [[discouraged]] and down, [[understand]], these are [[necessary]] places also. Sometimes we are doing things [[unseen]], preparing you for the next [[stages]]. Sometimes you are wrestling with things that are [[necessary]] for you to look at in order to make [[choices]] about. There are many reasons, but there are never reasons for you to [[judge]] yourselves on these things and we do not judge you either. It is not possible in your [[state]] for you to be in some [[perfect]] [[state]] at all times. You are all making [[progress]] and these [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebb_and_flow ebbs and flows] are simply a part of [[human]] [[life]] which cannot be avoided. I [[sympathize]] with you all, for even on planets in [[light and life]], we experienced our [[degree]] of this sort of thing, so I do know what it is you [[struggle]] with, even if the [[intensity]] on your [[Lucifer Rebellion|rebellion-torn]] [[planet]] is greater.

This is [[growing]] in all of you. When you feel [[discouraged]] and down, [[understand]], these are [[necessary]] places also. Sometimes we are doing things [[unseen]], preparing you for the next [[stages]]. Sometimes you are wrestling with things that are [[necessary]] for you to look at in order to make [[choices]] about. There are many reasons, but there are never reasons for you to [[judge]] yourselves on these things and we do not judge you either. It is not possible in your [[state]] for you to be in some [[perfect]] [[state]] at all times. You are all making [[progress]] and these [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebb_and_flow ebbs and flows] are simply a part of [[human]] [[life]] which cannot be avoided. I [[sympathize]] with you all, for even on planets in [[light and life]], we experienced our [[degree]] of this sort of thing, so I do know what it is you [[struggle]] with, even if the [[intensity]] on your [[Lucifer Rebellion|rebellion-torn]] [[planet]] is greater.

Jules: When we're with the [[quiet time]] during the day, by being in that place, that allows us to be a [[channel]] for [[the Father]].

Jules: When we're with the [[quiet time]] during the day, by being in that place, that allows us to be a [[channel]] for [[the Father]].

LinEL: This is a [[time]] period where it appears to them as if nothing had happened. Truly, if you [[sleep]] ten thousand years, when you [[wake]], it is as though you went through a doorway, and no time whatsoever passed. They do not [[dream]]. They are not truly asleep.

LinEL: This is a [[time]] period where it appears to them as if nothing had happened. Truly, if you [[sleep]] ten thousand years, when you [[wake]], it is as though you went through a doorway, and no time whatsoever passed. They do not [[dream]]. They are not truly asleep.

Mark: Sorta puts [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deja_vu deja-vu] into [[perspective]]. (Laughter)

Mark: Sorta puts [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deja_vu deja-vu] into [[perspective]]. (Laughter)

LinEL: This is an interesting comment. Many of you have wondered about this. Perhaps we will be allowed to [[discuss]] it.  

LinEL: This is an interesting comment. Many of you have wondered about this. Perhaps we will be allowed to [[discuss]] it.  

Group: Hmm. Cool.

Group: Hmm. Cool.

===='''''[[Mansion Worlds]]'''''====

===='''''[[Mansion Worlds]]'''''====

Doug: I was born [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cripple crippled] into this world. What are the [[variables]] in being reborn into the next world; what's the [[chance]] of [[defects]].

Doug: I was born [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cripple crippled] into this world. What are the [[variables]] in being reborn into the next world; what's the [[chance]] of [[defects]].

LinEL: These things do not occur. While you are born imperfect, this particular type of [[difficulty]] does not occur. The bodies that you [[receive]] do not have the kinds of defects that happen on a planet such as [[Urantia|yours]]. Even on more [[normal planets]], such things are relatively uncommon. You need have no [[fear]] that this will occur to you.

LinEL: These things do not occur. While you are born imperfect, this particular type of [[difficulty]] does not occur. The bodies that you [[receive]] do not have the kinds of defects that happen on a planet such as [[Urantia|yours]]. Even on more [[normal planets]], such things are relatively uncommon. You need have no [[fear]] that this will occur to you.

LinEL: The closest [[chance]] that you will have... if we are successful with [[visualization]] you will get some [[idea]], but remember, you cannot [[perceive]] us with the same [[senses]] that we perceive each other with here, therefore, even that [[satisfaction]] of your [[curiosity]] will not suffice. There is truly no way to let you know, except perhaps to say we will not necessarily look four-feet tall with large heads and black eyes as sometimes [[aliens]] are represented on your world. ([[Laughter]]) You will not be [[frightened]] when you see each other.

LinEL: The closest [[chance]] that you will have... if we are successful with [[visualization]] you will get some [[idea]], but remember, you cannot [[perceive]] us with the same [[senses]] that we perceive each other with here, therefore, even that [[satisfaction]] of your [[curiosity]] will not suffice. There is truly no way to let you know, except perhaps to say we will not necessarily look four-feet tall with large heads and black eyes as sometimes [[aliens]] are represented on your world. ([[Laughter]]) You will not be [[frightened]] when you see each other.

Jules: I'm a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek Star Trek] [[Fan|person]], so I'm [[prepared]] now for anything. (Laughter) If you're familiar with Star Trek.

Jules: I'm a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek Star Trek] [[Fan|person]], so I'm [[prepared]] now for anything. (Laughter) If you're familiar with Star Trek.

LinEL: Actually, we are all familiar with Star Trek. This series has some [[inspiration]]; it has [[received]] some inspiration.

LinEL: Actually, we are all familiar with Star Trek. This series has some [[inspiration]]; it has [[received]] some inspiration.