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I would question you, my daughter, to make sure that I [[understand]] your question. For if I understand it correctly..you are asking if there is real [[sin]] and [[iniquity]] in the [[universe of universes]] as opposed to merely [[error]]?"
 
I would question you, my daughter, to make sure that I [[understand]] your question. For if I understand it correctly..you are asking if there is real [[sin]] and [[iniquity]] in the [[universe of universes]] as opposed to merely [[error]]?"
 
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Nancy: "Yes.., I [[suppose]] I was. I had in [[mind]], say, the [[actions]] of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler Hitler] toward the [[Jews]] and the acts of our [[government]] with its past [[policies]] of [[genocide]] toward the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas indigenous people of this continent]. And I was [[wondering]] if the problem was in my [[perceptions]] of these events or if the problem is in the [[events]] themselves and I thought that I might need to [[adjust]] my perceptions. But I wanted to know, if, in [[fact]], there is something real for me to be upset about, realizing that being upset does no [[good]] and that I need to learn [[forgiveness]]."
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Nancy: "Yes.., I [[suppose]] I was. I had in [[mind]], say, the [[actions]] of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler Hitler] toward the [[Jews]] and the acts of our [[government]] with its past [[policies]] of [[genocide]] toward the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas indigenous people of this continent]. And I was [[wondering]] if the problem was in my [[perceptions]] of these events or if the problem is in the [[events]] themselves and I thought that I might need to [[adjust]] my perceptions. But I wanted to know, if, in [[fact]], there is something real for me to be upset about, realizing that being upset does no [[good]] and that I need to learn [[forgiveness]]."
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Ham: "[[Urantia Text|Your text]] is clear in regard to the distinction between [[error]] or [[evil]], [[sin]], and [[iniquity]], and I would not labor on those [[topics]] as Daniel has very fittingly addressed that subject matter in [[past]] lessons. Of course iniquity and sin are real in a temporary sense. They are destructive of [[personality]] [[status]]. They result in [[ultimate]] [[extinction]]. You know this. The relative matters of [[wars]], of [[abuses]] of one [[human being]] of another vary from a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativism cultural relativism] to a very serious [[betrayal]] of one's [[Siblinghood|brotherhood and sisterhood]], a denial of one's common [[unity]] in the [[family]] of our Creator Parents. This has to be [[judged]] [[contextually]] within the situations that are being addressed, but I am sure we all [[agree]] that right and wrong is not merely a matter of [[convention]]. There is such a thing as breaking the laws of God, the spiritual laws of God. Beyond those comments I would not care to further elaborate. Is this helpful?"
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Ham: "[[Urantia Text|Your text]] is clear in regard to the distinction between [[error]] or [[evil]], [[sin]], and [[iniquity]], and I would not labor on those [[topics]] as Daniel has very fittingly addressed that subject matter in [[past]] lessons. Of course iniquity and sin are real in a temporary sense. They are destructive of [[personality]] [[status]]. They result in [[ultimate]] [[extinction]]. You know this. The relative matters of [[wars]], of [[abuses]] of one [[human being]] of another vary from a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativism cultural relativism] to a very serious [[betrayal]] of one's [[Siblinghood|brotherhood and sisterhood]], a denial of one's common [[unity]] in the [[family]] of our Creator Parents. This has to be [[judged]] [[contextually]] within the situations that are being addressed, but I am sure we all [[agree]] that right and wrong is not merely a matter of [[convention]]. There is such a thing as breaking the laws of God, the spiritual laws of God. Beyond those comments I would not care to further elaborate. Is this helpful?"
    
Nancy: "That was very helpful. Somehow I was hearing, and I know this must be old past [[thinking]], was hearing that [[God]] didn't see all of that and that we should have the same [[perception]]. Thank you. You have addressed it."
 
Nancy: "That was very helpful. Somehow I was hearing, and I know this must be old past [[thinking]], was hearing that [[God]] didn't see all of that and that we should have the same [[perception]]. Thank you. You have addressed it."

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