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Aaron (Bill): considerably. Thank you very much.  Carol, can you give you give some comments to this question?
 
Aaron (Bill): considerably. Thank you very much.  Carol, can you give you give some comments to this question?
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Carol: Well, I totally [[agree]] with Pat and what she said. We also are [[reading]] the life story of Jesus in [[part 4]] of the Urantia Book in our Tuesday ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Falls,_Idaho American Falls]) reading [[group]], and it broadens the scope immensely because there are so many things that you didn't have contact with before, that you didn't hear about before. To me it's more like an [[autobiography]], because it is much clearer than the [[Bible]]. It makes Jesus more of a real person to me; I think, like Marty said, much more reachable, and generally has much more broadened the scope of things for me.
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Carol: Well, I totally [[agree]] with Pat and what she said. We also are [[reading]] the life story of Jesus in [[part 4]] of the Urantia Book in our Tuesday ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Falls,_Idaho American Falls]) reading [[group]], and it broadens the scope immensely because there are so many things that you didn't have contact with before, that you didn't hear about before. To me it's more like an [[autobiography]], because it is much clearer than the [[Bible]]. It makes Jesus more of a real person to me; I think, like Marty said, much more reachable, and generally has much more broadened the scope of things for me.
    
Aaron (Bill): Thank you for your additional comments, that so far have pretty much blended together in terms of all of your [[experiences]]. And now my friend Bob, would you please comment on the question?
 
Aaron (Bill): Thank you for your additional comments, that so far have pretty much blended together in terms of all of your [[experiences]]. And now my friend Bob, would you please comment on the question?
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Bob: Maybe I got that [[idea]] (of being born again) from you?
 
Bob: Maybe I got that [[idea]] (of being born again) from you?
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Aaron (Bill): It was definitely in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecosphere_%28aquarium%29 eco-sphere]. (Comments.) Virginia, my dear, I await your words.
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Aaron (Bill): It was definitely in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecosphere_%28aquarium%29 eco-sphere]. (Comments.) Virginia, my dear, I await your words.
    
Virginia: A lot of [[thoughts]] have come into my [[mind]]. When Pat said that Jesus was more human, I pictured what I had just [[listened]] to on the (Urantia Book) tape this morning of Jesus in the city of [[Nazareth]] sitting on hill on his [[third preaching tour]], I believe, enjoying the [[memories]] of that place he had as a child. And so Jesus really is more human. I can remember that before the [[Urantia Book]] I used to argue that his [[divinity]] kept him from sinning, that he had no [[choice]] because he was divine. And I think that, if nothing else, the book has made me realize that his lack of [[sin]] really was the choices that he made, rather than the inability to stray from [[the Father]]'s will. So I think that is one thing that is very clear for me.
 
Virginia: A lot of [[thoughts]] have come into my [[mind]]. When Pat said that Jesus was more human, I pictured what I had just [[listened]] to on the (Urantia Book) tape this morning of Jesus in the city of [[Nazareth]] sitting on hill on his [[third preaching tour]], I believe, enjoying the [[memories]] of that place he had as a child. And so Jesus really is more human. I can remember that before the [[Urantia Book]] I used to argue that his [[divinity]] kept him from sinning, that he had no [[choice]] because he was divine. And I think that, if nothing else, the book has made me realize that his lack of [[sin]] really was the choices that he made, rather than the inability to stray from [[the Father]]'s will. So I think that is one thing that is very clear for me.
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Aaron (Bill): I thank you with all my heart, Virginia, for your [[eloquent]] words, and also my thanks goes out to the rest of you as well. You have in your comments covered major areas, and have brought great joy to [[your teachers]] this evening, for you have justified our fondest [[hopes]] and [[dreams]] that [[this planet]] was ready for new truth; that the time was right for an enlarged [[revelation]] of the meaning of the Fourth Revelation, viz., the coming of the [[Bestowal Son]], known as Joshua ben Joseph, or Jesus to your world.
 
Aaron (Bill): I thank you with all my heart, Virginia, for your [[eloquent]] words, and also my thanks goes out to the rest of you as well. You have in your comments covered major areas, and have brought great joy to [[your teachers]] this evening, for you have justified our fondest [[hopes]] and [[dreams]] that [[this planet]] was ready for new truth; that the time was right for an enlarged [[revelation]] of the meaning of the Fourth Revelation, viz., the coming of the [[Bestowal Son]], known as Joshua ben Joseph, or Jesus to your world.
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The [[Correcting Time]], of which the [[Teaching Mission]] is a part, is also a part of the [[Fifth Epochal Revelation]], as well as the next dispensation to [[this planet]]. You are the men and women that the Urantia Book speaks of, the new teachers ([[195:9|195:9.4]]) of [[the gospel]] of Michael, of the [[Fatherhood of God]] and the brotherhood of humankind. You are, by your own choice, [[apostles]], [[teachers]], [[evangelists]]. You are the salt of the earth in this [[generation]]. You are witnesses to the [[Light of the World]] in these times. Our work is very great, and yet it is very wonderful, for once again, the Christian calendar forces people to pay [[attention]] to the inexplicable [[experiences]] which brought about the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_Christianity origin of Christianity]. Thinking people are more and more coming to [[understand]] that the [[Easter]] event cannot be dismissed as a [[myth]], but was the cause of the [[formulation]] of the religion about Jesus known as [[Christianity]]. It is that time for the [[chrysalis]] to break forth in [[resurrection]] glory and [[transformation]]; the gospel about Jesus to become [[the gospel]] that he preached, that he taught, that he lived.
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The [[Correcting Time]], of which the [[Teaching Mission]] is a part, is also a part of the [[Fifth Epochal Revelation]], as well as the next dispensation to [[this planet]]. You are the men and women that the Urantia Book speaks of, the new teachers ([[195:9|195:9.4]]) of [[the gospel]] of Michael, of the [[Fatherhood of God]] and the brotherhood of humankind. You are, by your own choice, [[apostles]], [[teachers]], [[evangelists]]. You are the salt of the earth in this [[generation]]. You are witnesses to the [[Light of the World]] in these times. Our work is very great, and yet it is very wonderful, for once again, the Christian calendar forces people to pay [[attention]] to the inexplicable [[experiences]] which brought about the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_Christianity origin of Christianity]. Thinking people are more and more coming to [[understand]] that the [[Easter]] event cannot be dismissed as a [[myth]], but was the cause of the [[formulation]] of the religion about Jesus known as [[Christianity]]. It is that time for the [[chrysalis]] to break forth in [[resurrection]] glory and [[transformation]]; the gospel about Jesus to become [[the gospel]] that he preached, that he taught, that he lived.
    
What you have said tonight is [[testimony]] to the fact that you are [[sharing]] his [[faith]]. You are experiencing contact with God, and yes, you are ‘[[born again]]' without the narrow confines that those words often suggest in the [[minds]] of those that hear it. While it is [[literally]] true that no one comes to [[the Father]] except through [[the Son]], this has been misunderstood to mean no one can be saved except they become a [[Christian]]. This is not true, for in each man and women is that true [[light]] which [[enlightens]] all, that [[Thought Adjuster]], that Mystery Monitor, that contact point with God. It is true that in the [[ascension career]] all will first meet the Son in person at the [[Salvington|universe headquarters world]], having met him spiritually throughout their career prior. It is also true that [[ascension]] candidates will meet the [[Eternal Son]] before they meet the [[Universal Father]] on [[Paradise]]. Those words refer to these experiences and not as some Christians have [[conjectured]] that all persons must think their patterns of [[thought]] and [[worship]] in their modalities. The [[Fifth Epochal Revelation]] is not limited to [[Christianity]]. It is designed to [[leaven]] the [[truth]] in all religions. And so the book and the Teaching Mission and the [[Correcting Time]] are all unified in the effort to bring along [[this planet]] in its journey toward [[Light and Life]]. We have deliberately asked you all to help us think about these things tonight, so that we can in a sense pause and look at the scenery, and see where we have come, and take [[pleasure]] in our [[progress]]. And now your have certainly satisfactorily answered my question, and I do heartily thank you all. Isaac, do you wish to add anything?
 
What you have said tonight is [[testimony]] to the fact that you are [[sharing]] his [[faith]]. You are experiencing contact with God, and yes, you are ‘[[born again]]' without the narrow confines that those words often suggest in the [[minds]] of those that hear it. While it is [[literally]] true that no one comes to [[the Father]] except through [[the Son]], this has been misunderstood to mean no one can be saved except they become a [[Christian]]. This is not true, for in each man and women is that true [[light]] which [[enlightens]] all, that [[Thought Adjuster]], that Mystery Monitor, that contact point with God. It is true that in the [[ascension career]] all will first meet the Son in person at the [[Salvington|universe headquarters world]], having met him spiritually throughout their career prior. It is also true that [[ascension]] candidates will meet the [[Eternal Son]] before they meet the [[Universal Father]] on [[Paradise]]. Those words refer to these experiences and not as some Christians have [[conjectured]] that all persons must think their patterns of [[thought]] and [[worship]] in their modalities. The [[Fifth Epochal Revelation]] is not limited to [[Christianity]]. It is designed to [[leaven]] the [[truth]] in all religions. And so the book and the Teaching Mission and the [[Correcting Time]] are all unified in the effort to bring along [[this planet]] in its journey toward [[Light and Life]]. We have deliberately asked you all to help us think about these things tonight, so that we can in a sense pause and look at the scenery, and see where we have come, and take [[pleasure]] in our [[progress]]. And now your have certainly satisfactorily answered my question, and I do heartily thank you all. Isaac, do you wish to add anything?
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Bill: Yes, Aaron, I would just say that [[everything]] that has been said by everyone else there applies to me as well. I already had a spiritual [[experience]] when I was nineteen in which I truly did meet [[Christ Michael]], who I knew as [[Jesus]], and I did experience the sense of [[forgiveness]] and [[reality]] that is described as being ‘[[born again]]'; but I think that what the [[Fifth Epochal Revelation]] has done for me is to satisfy all the questions that I had about what [[the whole]], big universe was all about: Are we the only planet with [[life]]? Why is this world so screwed up? ([[Laughter]].) Why are we so in the [[dark]] about what is going on? All these things have been so well answered by the Urantia Book. And then what the [[Teaching Mission]] has done for me is to make me realize that the [[intensity]] of spiritual contact that you can see in the [[New Testament]]'s writings, that happened back there in so-called [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Christianity primitive Christianity], is now happening; and I am as [[intimately]] connected as [[Paul, the Apostle|Paul]] or any of those people with God and with Jesus; and that we are all given the same task, to be [[apostles]], to be [[teachers]], to be bringers of [[light]]. That's my answer.
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Bill: Yes, Aaron, I would just say that [[everything]] that has been said by everyone else there applies to me as well. I already had a spiritual [[experience]] when I was nineteen in which I truly did meet [[Christ Michael]], who I knew as [[Jesus]], and I did experience the sense of [[forgiveness]] and [[reality]] that is described as being ‘[[born again]]'; but I think that what the [[Fifth Epochal Revelation]] has done for me is to satisfy all the questions that I had about what [[the whole]], big universe was all about: Are we the only planet with [[life]]? Why is this world so screwed up? ([[Laughter]].) Why are we so in the [[dark]] about what is going on? All these things have been so well answered by the Urantia Book. And then what the [[Teaching Mission]] has done for me is to make me realize that the [[intensity]] of spiritual contact that you can see in the [[New Testament]]'s writings, that happened back there in so-called [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Christianity primitive Christianity], is now happening; and I am as [[intimately]] connected as [[Paul, the Apostle|Paul]] or any of those people with God and with Jesus; and that we are all given the same task, to be [[apostles]], to be [[teachers]], to be bringers of [[light]]. That's my answer.
    
Aaron (Bill): My dear friend, I appreciate your additional comments. I would now return this meeting to Daniel who will offer you the [[chance]] to reverse the [[process]] and be the questioners, if you so [[desire]]. One moment, please.
 
Aaron (Bill): My dear friend, I appreciate your additional comments. I would now return this meeting to Daniel who will offer you the [[chance]] to reverse the [[process]] and be the questioners, if you so [[desire]]. One moment, please.

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