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Onamonalonton, as you know, also serves on the [[Council of 24]]. And with [[co-ordination]] from his fellow Council members, he and others have walked upon [[Urantia]] and are even now involved in efforts to re-encircuit and re-establish your world in terms of its [[potential]], given our [[ideals]] and the peculiar vagaries under which we [[struggle]]. One moment, please.

Onamonalonton, as you know, also serves on the [[Council of 24]]. And with [[co-ordination]] from his fellow Council members, he and others have walked upon [[Urantia]] and are even now involved in efforts to re-encircuit and re-establish your world in terms of its [[potential]], given our [[ideals]] and the peculiar vagaries under which we [[struggle]]. One moment, please.

ONAMONALONTON: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_prehistory#Middle_Paleolithic Way back in time], yes. Way back in time. You are bringing with you much [[history]] when you bring me into your [[awareness]]. I am Onamonalonton. I am one with you. We work conjointly for the sphere of [[light]] beleaguered but not lost because of the many [[efforts]] of the many strugglers for the [[valiant]] [[Michael]] and his [[domain]]. When the [[light]] of God indwells and [[touches]] the [[heart]] of man, he in turn has no [[choice]] but to reflect that [[divinity]] in and through his actions as a [[law]] of [[the universe]], the law of [[cause and effect]]. In this way you too can [[co-operate]] with [[divinity]] and co-create in your realm. And your [[efforts]] are commingled with my efforts and the efforts of the many who will not fail, will not relent, will not relinquish our hold on our world of origin. We have been offered the [[opportunity]] to advance, to relinquish our post and we have declined the offer in [[anticipation]] of a hurdle being accomplished in such a fashion as to afford us no doubt, no concern. And so you see why we are here, why we remain. We are [[intent]] on [[assimilating]] all that we can into a cogent [[force]] for eternal [[good]] that will be a [[faithful]] portrayal of our appreciation for our [[Master Son]] and his [[mercy]], [[compassion]], [[diligence]], [[devotion]], [[dedication]] and [[obedience]] to that which we hold to be worthy of the [[worship]] of everyone - indeed, God himself. I wanted to mention to you today about the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_universe_(fiction) parallel universes] spoken of earlier. There is a [[tradition]] among the people - not only the [[red man]], but the people of earth - who make spiritual [[pilgrimages]] to physical places for [[healing]], for an acknowledgment of a sacred [[purpose]]. Many of you recognize our [[sacred stones]] who weep or holy waters that [[heal]].

ONAMONALONTON: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_prehistory#Middle_Paleolithic Way back in time], yes. Way back in time. You are bringing with you much [[history]] when you bring me into your [[awareness]]. I am Onamonalonton. I am one with you. We work conjointly for the sphere of [[light]] beleaguered but not lost because of the many [[efforts]] of the many strugglers for the [[valiant]] [[Michael]] and his [[domain]]. When the [[light]] of God indwells and [[touches]] the [[heart]] of man, he in turn has no [[choice]] but to reflect that [[divinity]] in and through his actions as a [[law]] of [[the universe]], the law of [[cause and effect]]. In this way you too can [[co-operate]] with [[divinity]] and co-create in your realm. And your [[efforts]] are commingled with my efforts and the efforts of the many who will not fail, will not relent, will not relinquish our hold on our world of origin. We have been offered the [[opportunity]] to advance, to relinquish our post and we have declined the offer in [[anticipation]] of a hurdle being accomplished in such a fashion as to afford us no doubt, no concern. And so you see why we are here, why we remain. We are [[intent]] on [[assimilating]] all that we can into a cogent [[force]] for eternal [[good]] that will be a [[faithful]] portrayal of our appreciation for our [[Master Son]] and his [[mercy]], [[compassion]], [[diligence]], [[devotion]], [[dedication]] and [[obedience]] to that which we hold to be worthy of the [[worship]] of everyone - indeed, God himself. I wanted to mention to you today about the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_universe_(fiction) parallel universes] spoken of earlier. There is a [[tradition]] among the people - not only the [[red man]], but the people of earth - who make spiritual [[pilgrimages]] to physical places for [[healing]], for an acknowledgment of a sacred [[purpose]]. Many of you recognize our [[sacred stones]] who weep or holy waters that [[heal]].

There is no point to attempt to convince anyone that the [[miracle]] is not in the water, in the [[physical]] world itself, even though many of you realize that the [[reality]] is non-physical, is [[spiritual]] in origin. But the [[belief]] of the loyal follower will not see God as [[separate]] from anything, including [[fire]], [[water]], [[air]]. To [[disdain]] a [[pure]] [[belief]] is to disdain God Himself. To [[assure]] your brother you are his brother you will [[embrace]] him as your brother under that immovable [[Force]] which oversees all that is and all that we are. But to acknowledge Him and say, "I do this," "I say that," "I go here," "I am that because of Him" is a man's personal religious [[sojourn]] into [[infinity]]. (Pause) That will do.

There is no point to attempt to convince anyone that the [[miracle]] is not in the water, in the [[physical]] world itself, even though many of you realize that the [[reality]] is non-physical, is [[spiritual]] in origin. But the [[belief]] of the loyal follower will not see God as [[separate]] from anything, including [[fire]], [[water]], [[air]]. To [[disdain]] a [[pure]] [[belief]] is to disdain God Himself. To [[assure]] your brother you are his brother you will [[embrace]] him as your brother under that immovable [[Force]] which oversees all that is and all that we are. But to acknowledge Him and say, "I do this," "I say that," "I go here," "I am that because of Him" is a man's personal religious [[sojourn]] into [[infinity]]. (Pause) That will do.

TOMAS: Tomas again. It seems I have a supporter in Onamonalonton in my [[discussion]] on [[co-creation]]. Even though it is a reach for those of you who feel that you have found all the answers. How can you possibly allow yourself to extend yourself into what you would regard as untruth? Well, you cannot go there if your [[intention]] is to be destructive of one man's [[relationship]] with [[deity]]; but when you go with a mind to [[share]] sonship, without creedal [[differences]] coming between you, you are in a position then to be able to find a common ground upon which to stand to [[worship]] that God that you both adore, and in that [[camaraderie]] you are able to feel the [[foundation]] of a friendship that might endure for an [[eternity]]. This is co-creating, my friends. This is co-creating a [[connection]] of divine [[goodness]] that connects you with your brother, and that connects you both with the original Creator. In this way you [[co-create]] [[peace]], bounty, [[beauty]], co-operation, co-ordination, [[community]]. See this world as a perfect [[reflection]] of the [[Paradise]] pattern, destined to be yours, to be your world's, and one day you will realize there is no difference between the [[spiritual]] and he [[physical]] for they are all co-ordinated and reflected as an aspect of [[perfection]], even into [[the worlds]] of time and space. It begins in your heart and in your life. It begins in your [[relationships]] with others. It begins by putting down your swords and your [[defenses]]. By setting aside your [[animal]] tendencies to [[compete]] and win and your human propensity to seek for [[status]] and approval. In attempting to maneuver your position in [[the kingdom]], allow our governors in their realms to administer [[the kingdom]]s. Learn to be [[co-operative]] in the little things and the big things will thus be provided. Dear children, have you questions for us today, or any [[commentary]] to share with the group?

TOMAS: Tomas again. It seems I have a supporter in Onamonalonton in my [[discussion]] on [[co-creation]]. Even though it is a reach for those of you who feel that you have found all the answers. How can you possibly allow yourself to extend yourself into what you would regard as untruth? Well, you cannot go there if your [[intention]] is to be destructive of one man's [[relationship]] with [[deity]]; but when you go with a mind to [[share]] sonship, without creedal [[differences]] coming between you, you are in a position then to be able to find a common ground upon which to stand to [[worship]] that God that you both adore, and in that [[camaraderie]] you are able to feel the [[foundation]] of a friendship that might endure for an [[eternity]]. This is co-creating, my friends. This is co-creating a [[connection]] of divine [[goodness]] that connects you with your brother, and that connects you both with the original Creator. In this way you [[co-create]] [[peace]], bounty, [[beauty]], co-operation, co-ordination, [[community]]. See this world as a perfect [[reflection]] of the [[Paradise]] pattern, destined to be yours, to be your world's, and one day you will realize there is no difference between the [[spiritual]] and he [[physical]] for they are all co-ordinated and reflected as an aspect of [[perfection]], even into [[the worlds]] of time and space. It begins in your heart and in your life. It begins in your [[relationships]] with others. It begins by putting down your swords and your [[defenses]]. By setting aside your [[animal]] tendencies to [[compete]] and win and your human propensity to seek for [[status]] and approval. In attempting to maneuver your position in [[the kingdom]], allow our governors in their realms to administer [[the kingdom]]s. Learn to be [[co-operative]] in the little things and the big things will thus be provided. Dear children, have you questions for us today, or any [[commentary]] to share with the group?

GERDEAN: Well, Tomas, we have some [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogy genealogy] questions here, I think you could call it. We were wondering about whether or not [[Onamonalonton]] was before or after the arrival of the [[secondary midwayers]]. I'm certain that the [[primary midwayers]] were around during the time of Onamonalonton, and you can understand that I myself am [[reluctant]] to ask because if you tell me something and I transmit it and it's a mistake, I will feel like I have made a [[fool]] of myself and of you to all the people that read your lessons. So this gets back to why we don't ask questions many times, (not because of being a T/R, but) because we're inclined to make ourselves look foolish, or that which we believe in to be [[error]] and we don't want to do that. So we just sit here looking dumb. ([[Laughter]])

GERDEAN: Well, Tomas, we have some [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogy genealogy] questions here, I think you could call it. We were wondering about whether or not [[Onamonalonton]] was before or after the arrival of the [[secondary midwayers]]. I'm certain that the [[primary midwayers]] were around during the time of Onamonalonton, and you can understand that I myself am [[reluctant]] to ask because if you tell me something and I transmit it and it's a mistake, I will feel like I have made a [[fool]] of myself and of you to all the people that read your lessons. So this gets back to why we don't ask questions many times, (not because of being a T/R, but) because we're inclined to make ourselves look foolish, or that which we believe in to be [[error]] and we don't want to do that. So we just sit here looking dumb. ([[Laughter]])

We... I . .. we... I don't know whether you want to [[discuss]] that or not, but we have a lot of [[questions]], Tomas. We have a lot of questions about our [[planetary government]], about [[Part 3|our history]], about what the [[midwayers]] have experienced, how they can be helpful to us, how we can work better with them, and I have to say, in [[fairness]], there are people who think that the midwayers are virtually a [[myth]] and a detraction from the important stuff which is our relationship with our [[Thought Adjuster]] and all this is diversionary tactics. So we have a whole bunch of questions and none of them are really well [[formulated]]. Some have been formulated and presented and we don't know if we're supposed to ask [[curiosity]] questions or not. Sometimes I think that we get the message that curiosity questions are beneath your [[expectations]], and then we get words like Onamonalonton just said, "Hey, you are [[perceiving]] [[reality]] as a [[shadow]] of Reality" and so what difference does it make?

We... I . .. we... I don't know whether you want to [[discuss]] that or not, but we have a lot of [[questions]], Tomas. We have a lot of questions about our [[planetary government]], about [[Part 3|our history]], about what the [[midwayers]] have experienced, how they can be helpful to us, how we can work better with them, and I have to say, in [[fairness]], there are people who think that the midwayers are virtually a [[myth]] and a detraction from the important stuff which is our relationship with our [[Thought Adjuster]] and all this is diversionary tactics. So we have a whole bunch of questions and none of them are really well [[formulated]]. Some have been formulated and presented and we don't know if we're supposed to ask [[curiosity]] questions or not. Sometimes I think that we get the message that curiosity questions are beneath your [[expectations]], and then we get words like Onamonalonton just said, "Hey, you are [[perceiving]] [[reality]] as a [[shadow]] of Reality" and so what difference does it make?

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