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Welmek: I was referring to some of the more physical tasks at hand, but for this [[purpose]] of this exercise, we can address both levels. For what it is that is preventing you from sensing this [[inspiration]] whether it is occurring for something that has [[spiritual]] significance, or is only a passing task of material [[maintenance]], does not really matter. It is the way you feel; it is the way you respond to it - whether you have a sense of [[vitality]], or whether you have a sense of [[avoidance]]. So we will address this later in our [[discussion]]. Are there other comments?

Welmek: I was referring to some of the more physical tasks at hand, but for this [[purpose]] of this exercise, we can address both levels. For what it is that is preventing you from sensing this [[inspiration]] whether it is occurring for something that has [[spiritual]] significance, or is only a passing task of material [[maintenance]], does not really matter. It is the way you feel; it is the way you respond to it - whether you have a sense of [[vitality]], or whether you have a sense of [[avoidance]]. So we will address this later in our [[discussion]]. Are there other comments?

Student: Yes Welmek, I feel that I tend to - as I get older, it seems as the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone testosterone] level goes down, my [[gregarious]] [[instinct]] goes up, and I dread [[separation]] more. So I notice that more - leaving work crews at the railroad, and with my kids and my older daughter. Although I can see it as an [[inspiration]] in long-suffering or something like that, but still I think that [[feeling]] of dread or a lessening is [[difficult]]. (Thank you.)

Student: Yes Welmek, I feel that I tend to - as I get older, it seems as the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone testosterone] level goes down, my [[gregarious]] [[instinct]] goes up, and I dread [[separation]] more. So I notice that more - leaving work crews at the railroad, and with my kids and my older daughter. Although I can see it as an [[inspiration]] in long-suffering or something like that, but still I think that [[feeling]] of dread or a lessening is [[difficult]]. (Thank you.)

Student: Yes, Welmek, the only time I feel any sense of dread, as you put it, is if I overwork myself. If I overextend myself and don't take [[care]] of my other needs - [[spiritual]] and [[emotional]] and [[physical]]. And then sometimes in the morning - so I've got to go back to work after working a ten-hour day, the day before. So, but if I do [[stillness]] beforehand, then the dread seems to go away. But I do notice I do get a sense of [[frustration]] if I overextend, especially like today, if I set myself out to only work a certain amount of hours so that I may have some time before coming here - this is the way I'm going to do other things for me, and I find myself not obliging myself, and I'm rushing around to get here, then that's when I feel a sense of frustration.

Student: Yes, Welmek, the only time I feel any sense of dread, as you put it, is if I overwork myself. If I overextend myself and don't take [[care]] of my other needs - [[spiritual]] and [[emotional]] and [[physical]]. And then sometimes in the morning - so I've got to go back to work after working a ten-hour day, the day before. So, but if I do [[stillness]] beforehand, then the dread seems to go away. But I do notice I do get a sense of [[frustration]] if I overextend, especially like today, if I set myself out to only work a certain amount of hours so that I may have some time before coming here - this is the way I'm going to do other things for me, and I find myself not obliging myself, and I'm rushing around to get here, then that's when I feel a sense of frustration.

Welmek: So would you say that you have in your own [[experience]] turned to [[the Master]] in an attempt to ameliorate the [[feelings]] of [[separation]] you experience when you in the midst of this longing to be reconnected?

Welmek: So would you say that you have in your own [[experience]] turned to [[the Master]] in an attempt to ameliorate the [[feelings]] of [[separation]] you experience when you in the midst of this longing to be reconnected?

Student: Yes, and I think it brought out early, a [[prayer]] from [[childhood]] - a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_catholicism Catholic prayer], "I offer up my works, joys, and sufferings of the day". It's one of the good things about Catholic [[methodology]] in that you dare to offer up your sufferings and mistakes as well to Jesus; and that brings out the warmth of Jesus, and the even the humanness.

Student: Yes, and I think it brought out early, a [[prayer]] from [[childhood]] - a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_catholicism Catholic prayer], "I offer up my works, joys, and sufferings of the day". It's one of the good things about Catholic [[methodology]] in that you dare to offer up your sufferings and mistakes as well to Jesus; and that brings out the warmth of Jesus, and the even the humanness.

Welmek: And what would you say in your [[experience]] is a trigger for you to remember to turn to [[Jesus]] in the midst of this [[anxious]] feeling of separation?

Welmek: And what would you say in your [[experience]] is a trigger for you to remember to turn to [[Jesus]] in the midst of this [[anxious]] feeling of separation?

Are there any more comments or questions before we conclude this evening?

Are there any more comments or questions before we conclude this evening?

Student: Yes Welmek, I have been wondering about this ever since we [[discovered]] the [[Urantia Book]]. It mentions that we've inherited from [[Adam and Eve]] more of a sense of [[humor]] than of [[music]]. Yet I find in my funniest, drollest New England humor, that it doesn't even touch the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQVeaIHWWck Moonlight Sonata] or [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIxQ_B3Wpzg Russian choral music], so I wonder how do you see the fact that we've inherited humor to an [[inspiring]] degree to somebody on your level, but very hard for us to put that into [[perspective]] - especially with our crude television humor?

Student: Yes Welmek, I have been wondering about this ever since we [[discovered]] the [[Urantia Book]]. It mentions that we've inherited from [[Adam and Eve]] more of a sense of [[humor]] than of [[music]]. Yet I find in my funniest, drollest New England humor, that it doesn't even touch the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQVeaIHWWck Moonlight Sonata] or [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIxQ_B3Wpzg Russian choral music], so I wonder how do you see the fact that we've inherited humor to an [[inspiring]] degree to somebody on your level, but very hard for us to put that into [[perspective]] - especially with our crude television humor?

Welmek: To me, what you have described is not humorous or humorful. It is a [[glorification]] of the baser functionings of human nature that have been popularized and [[appeal]] to an immature and degraded [[mockery]]. It is unfortunate that you classify this as humor.

Welmek: To me, what you have described is not humorous or humorful. It is a [[glorification]] of the baser functionings of human nature that have been popularized and [[appeal]] to an immature and degraded [[mockery]]. It is unfortunate that you classify this as humor.

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