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* Lester (Jonathan TR): Greetings to you, this is Lester, taking a shot at first at bat rather than be the one to mop up at the end. I wish to express my take on the grace of God. If I may settle into the manner of your wonderful teacher Elyon, I would like to “metaphorize” this by saying that grace is like grease.

You know, as you have just now uttered your solemn wishes and hopes for ailing friends, that it is this grace that you seek to be bestowed. It is as you know much needed in a world that is so fraught with shortcomings, you may call them diseases or ailments or catastrophes, but from our perspective we’ve learn to see them all as shortcomings. So, it is like your world being a frying pan where the heat has been turned up perhaps a little higher than it ought to have been. Instead of that long, patient simmer some of you feel at times like you are roasting. The grace of God is not placed upon you to put out the heat but rather it greases the pan, and it allows you to spiritually mature, to cook through without burning, to find yourself at the end of your endeavor tasty, delightful, transformed but not seared, dried out, and tasteless.

You know, as you have just now uttered your solemn wishes and hopes for ailing friends, that it is this grace that you seek to be bestowed. It is as you know much needed in a world that is so fraught with shortcomings, you may call them diseases or ailments or catastrophes, but from our perspective we’ve learn to see them all as shortcomings. So, it is like your world being a frying pan where the heat has been turned up perhaps a little higher than it ought to have been. Instead of that long, patient simmer some of you feel at times like you are roasting. The grace of God is not placed upon you to put out the heat but rather it greases the pan, and it allows you to spiritually mature, to cook through without burning, to find yourself at the end of your endeavor tasty, delightful, transformed but not seared, dried out, and tasteless.

I will take one more minute and enter my plea and prodding for you to practice your stillness. The daytime of your short life on earth is as intense as your noontime summer sun, for this world is rather topsy-turvy in many ways. So, stillness becomes your sun screen that you must put on to anoint yourself in this grace of God that you can then not shrink from the sun but rather boldly face the intensity and accomplish the will of the Father in your life and for this world. Thank you.

I will take one more minute and enter my plea and prodding for you to practice your stillness. The daytime of your short life on earth is as intense as your noontime summer sun, for this world is rather topsy-turvy in many ways. So, stillness becomes your sun screen that you must put on to anoint yourself in this grace of God that you can then not shrink from the sun but rather boldly face the intensity and accomplish the will of the Father in your life and for this world. Thank you.

* Elyon: This is Elyon, greetings to you, friends. I am pleased with Lester’s slick presentation, if you catch my drift. I am desirous and would be delighted to converse with you regarding your topic of conversation of collective visualization and so will make my comments as you make yours.

Elyon: This is Elyon, greetings to you, friends. I am pleased with Lester’s slick presentation, if you catch my drift. I am desirous and would be delighted to converse with you regarding your topic of conversation of collective visualization and so will make my comments as you make yours.

 

Tom: You first, Elyon.

Tom: You first, Elyon.

* Elyon: I would begin by acknowledging the appropriateness of your sensitivity to a shared understanding through a visual technique, or audible or tactile, that encourages each individual mind to meld into a group mindfulness, for this is akin, no, it is exactly the technique that is synergy, that compounding above and beyond the sum of the parts into a more potent whole. While you could express the esoteric quality of mind as always being interconnected, it does the human mind much good to use these aids that you speak of, the visualization or rituals, to focus. Yes, indeed, you may not be creating the link, that collective mindfulness, but you do need to tap in consciously to that existing condition that is the nature of mind.

Elyon: I would begin by acknowledging the appropriateness of your sensitivity to a shared understanding through a visual technique, or audible or tactile, that encourages each individual mind to meld into a group mindfulness, for this is akin, no, it is exactly the technique that is synergy, that compounding above and beyond the sum of the parts into a more potent whole. While you could express the esoteric quality of mind as always being interconnected, it does the human mind much good to use these aids that you speak of, the visualization or rituals, to focus. Yes, indeed, you may not be creating the link, that collective mindfulness, but you do need to tap in consciously to that existing condition that is the nature of mind.

These practices are much like, for instance, the step to the door of a bus. The bus already contains enough seats for every one of you, however, it can be difficult to climb into that bus, high riding as it is, without that aid of the step. Your attempt to develop a mutually acceptable form to approach your prayerful healing circle provides that step for you to enter into that mindfulness, that family of mercy bestowers, of healers.

These practices are much like, for instance, the step to the door of a bus. The bus already contains enough seats for every one of you, however, it can be difficult to climb into that bus, high riding as it is, without that aid of the step. Your attempt to develop a mutually acceptable form to approach your prayerful healing circle provides that step for you to enter into that mindfulness, that family of mercy bestowers, of healers.

Kirk: Sometimes when praying for healing I think that if I were suffering I would like the collective consciousness to push me over to the other side rather than prolong suffering for fear of what the other side is. I think we often pray for healing because we are afraid to push that person to the other side. I would rather have people pray for me to go over and start my morontia career.

Kirk: Sometimes when praying for healing I think that if I were suffering I would like the collective consciousness to push me over to the other side rather than prolong suffering for fear of what the other side is. I think we often pray for healing because we are afraid to push that person to the other side. I would rather have people pray for me to go over and start my morontia career.

* Elyon: You have expressed what has been ingrained in the human mind stream, that sense that death is terminal and must be avoided at all costs. I can assure you, and Lester who stands by my side agrees, that that has been one of the most remarkable experiences of our lives. It truly transforms the soul. It is of great value what you gain in experience while domiciled upon this world. It is an experience, I assure you, unlike what is to follow. However, it is unlike what is to follow, and the morontia career is stupendous, breathtaking, exhilarating and enlightening.

Elyon: You have expressed what has been ingrained in the human mind stream, that sense that death is terminal and must be avoided at all costs. I can assure you, and Lester who stands by my side agrees, that that has been one of the most remarkable experiences of our lives. It truly transforms the soul. It is of great value what you gain in experience while domiciled upon this world. It is an experience, I assure you, unlike what is to follow. However, it is unlike what is to follow, and the morontia career is stupendous, breathtaking, exhilarating and enlightening.

You are correct to not place death in a form of avoidance and finality. The Father does know all and will direct or allow events to unfold as He, indwelling an individual, discerns to be of the best spiritual welfare for that person. In a short interval of time it may appear that one was stopped short, did not gain all that could have been derived on a world like Urantia through an early disease or an unfortunate accident. But these occurrences are one small interval of experience in the long span of eternity, and as important as they are to a human being whose life is rather short and extremely valuable, it is after all one of the most precious possessions you have, your vitality. In a broadened perspective these calamities are no worse than a child’s scraped knee or cut finger, but at the time was so traumatic. As the child soon learns as age increases that these injuries, while they must be reckoned with, are not as fear intensifying or as dramatic as they once were, you apply the techniques you know to allow the healing to proceed, and you recover. Soon with age your nicks and scrapes are noticed, tended to, and you proceed on with little upset to your well- being. In a few millennia you will better see how disease and death are quite similar, particularly in how they are dealt with as the little child’s injury on the playground.

You are correct to not place death in a form of avoidance and finality. The Father does know all and will direct or allow events to unfold as He, indwelling an individual, discerns to be of the best spiritual welfare for that person. In a short interval of time it may appear that one was stopped short, did not gain all that could have been derived on a world like Urantia through an early disease or an unfortunate accident. But these occurrences are one small interval of experience in the long span of eternity, and as important as they are to a human being whose life is rather short and extremely valuable, it is after all one of the most precious possessions you have, your vitality. In a broadened perspective these calamities are no worse than a child’s scraped knee or cut finger, but at the time was so traumatic. As the child soon learns as age increases that these injuries, while they must be reckoned with, are not as fear intensifying or as dramatic as they once were, you apply the techniques you know to allow the healing to proceed, and you recover. Soon with age your nicks and scrapes are noticed, tended to, and you proceed on with little upset to your well- being. In a few millennia you will better see how disease and death are quite similar, particularly in how they are dealt with as the little child’s injury on the playground.

Evelyn: The rules for effective praying in The Urantia Book indicate that you ought to exhaust all the avenues of applying your own efforts towards accomplishing something before resorting to praying for divine assistance. Yet we all experience what seem to be answers to prayers when we don’t feel like we have anywhere near exhausted what we could have done to make it come about. Would you care to comment?

Evelyn: The rules for effective praying in The Urantia Book indicate that you ought to exhaust all the avenues of applying your own efforts towards accomplishing something before resorting to praying for divine assistance. Yet we all experience what seem to be answers to prayers when we don’t feel like we have anywhere near exhausted what we could have done to make it come about. Would you care to comment?

* Elyon: These conditions you speak of were presented to you by revelators whose intent was to further deepen in the minds of human beings your participation, your engagement, in the answer to prayer as well as refining the quality of your petitions in prayer.

Elyon: These conditions you speak of were presented to you by revelators whose intent was to further deepen in the minds of human beings your participation, your engagement, in the answer to prayer as well as refining the quality of your petitions in prayer.

Far too long it has been that the human mind set around the world is that you are like a spectator in the stadium cheering on the team to make the goal while not a player yourself. Yes, it is true that the cheers of the fan can bolster the energies and efforts of a player and cause great performance and goal attainment. These are the prayers you speak of where you feel you have done little of your own resources to bring answer to prayer. But for you who have engaged in the play of sport know, the thrill of carrying the ball yourself to the goal is far greater than cheering from the stands. By applying these prayer conditions you speak of you are jumping out of the stands and onto the field.

Far too long it has been that the human mind set around the world is that you are like a spectator in the stadium cheering on the team to make the goal while not a player yourself. Yes, it is true that the cheers of the fan can bolster the energies and efforts of a player and cause great performance and goal attainment. These are the prayers you speak of where you feel you have done little of your own resources to bring answer to prayer. But for you who have engaged in the play of sport know, the thrill of carrying the ball yourself to the goal is far greater than cheering from the stands. By applying these prayer conditions you speak of you are jumping out of the stands and onto the field.

Evelyn: Yes. Instead of a right and a wrong way, there’s a good and a better way. Any prayer is good; then there are those even better, more benefitting all. If you’re praying for someone’s pain to be relieved and the pain is relieved, that person derives the benefit. But if you engage yourself in doing what you can to relieve that pain then you also derive some benefit for having gone through the experience, as well as the person being relieved of the pain.

Evelyn: Yes. Instead of a right and a wrong way, there’s a good and a better way. Any prayer is good; then there are those even better, more benefitting all. If you’re praying for someone’s pain to be relieved and the pain is relieved, that person derives the benefit. But if you engage yourself in doing what you can to relieve that pain then you also derive some benefit for having gone through the experience, as well as the person being relieved of the pain.

* Elyon: Yes.

Elyon: Yes.

Tom: That’s what we are endeavoring to do in our healing circle, change it from passive into a more active form of prayer. That’s the benefit of adding as many senses as you can.

Tom: That’s what we are endeavoring to do in our healing circle, change it from passive into a more active form of prayer. That’s the benefit of adding as many senses as you can.

* Elyon: This is true. And you know, for I discern the spiritual maturity of each of you, that it is additionally helpful when praying for another that you also, for instance, visit the bedside, for these actions are part of the healing. But you are also developing the sensitivity to those conditions of healing that engage agencies such as the midway cousins and the angels who can work with the circuits and cause the manifestation of the divine healing energy to appear in that particular individual.

Elyon: This is true. And you know, for I discern the spiritual maturity of each of you, that it is additionally helpful when praying for another that you also, for instance, visit the bedside, for these actions are part of the healing. But you are also developing the sensitivity to those conditions of healing that engage agencies such as the midway cousins and the angels who can work with the circuits and cause the manifestation of the divine healing energy to appear in that particular individual.

The universe is a like a team, and teamwork accomplishes the desires of the players. The Father can directly bless, heal, grace, any individual. As I have stated there are peripheral experiences to any action of this nature. Rather than doing so of Himself, He does through His Son and His Spirit and all the agencies derived therefrom, and each one of us is blessed with His grace in the transference of His energy to another.

The universe is a like a team, and teamwork accomplishes the desires of the players. The Father can directly bless, heal, grace, any individual. As I have stated there are peripheral experiences to any action of this nature. Rather than doing so of Himself, He does through His Son and His Spirit and all the agencies derived therefrom, and each one of us is blessed with His grace in the transference of His energy to another.

Kirk: Has a circumstance ever come up where a group or individual is praying for someone suffering who is going to die anyway or that it’s the will of that person to go on, does it ever prolong their suffering?

Kirk: Has a circumstance ever come up where a group or individual is praying for someone suffering who is going to die anyway or that it’s the will of that person to go on, does it ever prolong their suffering?

* Elyon: Prayer by nature is unable to bring harm. The will of the Father prevails. If an individual, even though sincerely and earnestly is praying for an outcome that is not the will of the Father, it will not condition the timing, the sequence of events, to fulfill His will. Be not concerned that you may interfere with the rightful unfolding of events. Do know that the Father understands every creature, and that you can and ought to pray what you truly believe and hope for, that you will not bring damage or undue hardship, only that you will acquire greater wisdom as time unfolds.

Elyon: Prayer by nature is unable to bring harm. The will of the Father prevails. If an individual, even though sincerely and earnestly is praying for an outcome that is not the will of the Father, it will not condition the timing, the sequence of events, to fulfill His will. Be not concerned that you may interfere with the rightful unfolding of events. Do know that the Father understands every creature, and that you can and ought to pray what you truly believe and hope for, that you will not bring damage or undue hardship, only that you will acquire greater wisdom as time unfolds.

Recall the episode of Lazarus and how Jesus said that this was “not to the death”. Lazarus had been dead for days. If it was the master’s desire to demonstrate the source of his divinity through the resurrection of Lazarus, would not one consider it undue hardship for this fellow to have gone through such an excruciating disease, death, and -- within a culture that distanced itself from things dead -- to have to emerge from a grave before strangers? There are many times in the human life when the implications and the deep meanings are not fully understood. The one who wished to have Jesus heal before death, that prayer went unanswered. Yet the outcome benefitted many for centuries to come. Pray as you are moved to and welcome the answer of spirit.

Recall the episode of Lazarus and how Jesus said that this was “not to the death”. Lazarus had been dead for days. If it was the master’s desire to demonstrate the source of his divinity through the resurrection of Lazarus, would not one consider it undue hardship for this fellow to have gone through such an excruciating disease, death, and -- within a culture that distanced itself from things dead -- to have to emerge from a grave before strangers? There are many times in the human life when the implications and the deep meanings are not fully understood. The one who wished to have Jesus heal before death, that prayer went unanswered. Yet the outcome benefitted many for centuries to come. Pray as you are moved to and welcome the answer of spirit.

 

My friends, the time goes on and I would release you from my engagement. We could continue to talk until the dawn of the next age, however, it may not promote much understanding if the mind grows tired and the body would like Mexican food! Farewell.

My friends, the time goes on and I would release you from my engagement. We could continue to talk until the dawn of the next age, however, it may not promote much understanding if the mind grows tired and the body would like Mexican food! Farewell.