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Group: Denver TeaM Group, #6

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BOB: Good morning, this is Bob. (Group greetings) Welcome to the [[N. Idaho TeaM|Denver Teaching Mission group]]. It is good to see that you are [[relaxed]] today; you seem to be very mellow, as you would say. Today we will begin another basic lesson; today’s lesson involves the “[[Perfection]] of God” and the “[[Love]] of God.” (Student: Two of my favorite subjects!) Ours as well.

Teacher: (Cherubim) Bob (TR, Daniel)

As you recall, we have been here a long time, reconnoitering and [[preparing]] for the [[Teaching Mission]] and for the [[Correcting Time]]. It has been in mind through the [[Paper 33 - Administration of the Local Universe|administration of this local universe]] for many, many thousands of years. It is in fact, a part of your [[Part 3|world history]] that you will find on [[Salvington]], on the walls that depict the history of the [[local universe]].

The Perfection of God

[[Perfection]] is fundamental to the sustenance/[[maintenance]] of [[the universe]]. And logically, were you to extend God’s perfection back to the moment of [[creation]], you would realize that any flaw in God, any imperfection in God, would have realized itself in the development and [[evolution]] of the universe, and it would implode. It would have imploded long ago. And no, that would not [[herald]] the beginning of a new universe, with another “[[big bang]].” There was only one “big bang,” and the universe will continue to expand evermore, always, and never implode, due to the perfection of the Creator, and all processes [[inherent]] in the creation.

On one hand, this is extremely [[simple]], yet there is no way to [[prove]] it to you. You can only prove it to yourself through your [[observations]] of [[the universe]] —it’s length of duration and how it works. You may say, “Yes, but I see in the astral [[heavens]], [[galaxies]], whole galaxies, coming together, colliding—isn’t that destructive? Aren’t there destructive, terminal processes involved in the universe?” And the answer is, no. There are no terminal processes; there is only [[evolution]] and development. From your observations of the universe, and the collisions that occur, the [[eruptions]] that occur, there is still a [[balance]], not imperfection, not the termination of a long-standing piece of art as a universe. It is still young; it is still [[becoming]]; it is still evolving; it is coming into balance. Were you to speak to the [[Architects of the Universe]], those designers of the universe, who now help mold and shape the universe and help it move toward balance, you would know that this is all part of a large [[plan]]. Yes, [[collisions]] do occur; yes, whole galaxies get gobbled up in [[black holes]], those dark bodies mentioned in the [[Urantia Book]]. This is a part of the balance. [[Eventually]], all the “wheels of light” will come into balance; [[eventually]], the whole universe, the [[Grand Universe]], will be in balance. And we [[perceive]], we surmise, we will then see the universe be on the brink of the Days of [[Light and Life]], and this will [[inaugurate]] the opening of the [[outer space]] fields. Until then, you will see evidence of a universe that is developing. In many ways, the universe is still very young. You are going to witness the evolution of a whole universe, as it moves from imbalance to balance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On one hand, this is extremely simple, yet there is no way to prove it to you. You can only prove it to yourself through your observations of the universe —it’s length of duration and how it works. You may say, “Yes, but I see in the astral heavens, galaxies, whole galaxies, coming together, colliding—isn’t that destructive? Aren’t there destructive, terminal processes involved in the universe?” And the answer is, no. There are no terminal processes; there is only evolution and development. From your observations of the universe, and the collisions that occur, the eruptions that occur, there is still a balance, not imperfection, not the termination of a long-standing piece of art as a universe. It is still young; it is still becoming; it is still evolving; it is coming into balance. Were you to speak to the Architects of the Universe, those designers of the universe, who now help mold and shape the universe and help it move toward balance, you would know that this is all part of a large plan. Yes, collisions do occur; yes, whole galaxies get gobbled up in black holes, those dark bodies mentioned in the Urantia Book. This is a part of the balance. Eventually, all the “wheels of light” will come into balance; eventually, the whole universe, the Grand Universe, will be in balance. And we perceive, we surmise, we will then see the universe be on the brink of the Days of Light and Life, and this will inaugurate the opening of the outer space fields. Until then, you will see evidence of a universe that is developing. In many ways, the universe is still very young. You are going to witness the evolution of a whole universe, as it moves from imbalance to balance.

Let us take a small break to answer any questions you may have about this topic.

Let us take a small break to answer any questions you may have about this topic.

 

Student: I have one.

Student: I have one.

Bob: The first question, please.

Bob: The first question, please.

Student: You mentioned the opening of the outer space fields. Could you explain that a little more?

Student: You mentioned the opening of the [[outer space]] fields. Could you explain that a little more?

Bob: I would refer you to the Urantia Book, which speaks of these, the outer space fields, which are developing, which are now unoccupied. You will find fundamental answers to your questions there.

Bob: I would refer you to the [[Urantia Book]], which speaks of these, the outer space fields, which are developing, which are now unoccupied. You will find fundamental answers to your questions there.

Student: I have a question, Bob. (Certainly.) You were mentioning the Celestial Architects, and I was wondering if they play a role in intervention in any way. For instance, if a planet within a local universe developed to the point where there were physical beings evolving to the point where they all had, or for the most part, had indwelling Thought Adjusters, and would a planet such as that, be allowed to collide, let us say, with some other celestial body that did not have life evolving on it, would it be allowed to become annihilated, or would there be intervention?

Student: I have a question, Bob. (Certainly.) You were mentioning the [[Architects of the Master Universe|Celestial Architects]], and I was wondering if they play a role in [[intervention]] in any way. For instance, if a planet within a local universe developed to the point where there were physical beings evolving to the point where they all had, or for the most part, had indwelling [[Thought Adjusters]], and would a planet such as that, be allowed to collide, let us say, with some other celestial body that did not have life evolving on it, would it be allowed to become [[annihilated]], or would there be [[intervention]]?

Bob: Strictly speaking, the answer is “no” because they would not be the ones who would be mindful of the situation and effect a different outcome; it would be more specifically, the Most Highs. And yes, there are plans in place for all inhabited planets that may become impaled in a star or collide with another planet.

Bob: Strictly speaking, the answer is “no” because they would not be the ones who would be mindful of the situation and effect a different outcome; it would be more specifically, the [[Most Highs]]. And yes, there are plans in place for all [[inhabited planets]] that may become impaled in a star or collide with another planet.

Student: So there would be intervention?

Student: So there would be [[intervention]]?

Bob: Certainly. (Student: That’s my thought. Thank you.)

Bob: Certainly. (Student: That’s my thought. Thank you.)

And why? Why would there be intervention? Does anyone have an answer?

And why? Why would there be intervention? Does anyone have an answer?

Student: The first answer that comes to mind right now for me is, I’m struggling with my evolving “agondonterhood aptiva,” my ability to believe without seeing, as we all are on this planet, and that version of faith as an agondonter is so important from my perspective, to our evolution toward Paradise and the work that we will do, will depend a great deal on what we have managed to become on this planet, given the fact that we are able to believe without seeing. And so, I just can’t imagine a planet such as this, especially the home of our Creator Son’s final bestowal, being allowed to be annihilated. There are too many pieces of who we become as we evolve inward, that are contingent upon what we learn here.

Student: The first answer that comes to mind right now for me is, I’m struggling with my evolving “[[agondonter]]hood aptiva,” my [[ability]] to believe without seeing, as we all are on this planet, and that version of faith as an agondonter is so important from my [[perspective]], to our evolution toward [[Paradise]] and the work that we will do, will depend a great deal on what we have managed to become on this planet, given the fact that we are able to believe without seeing. And so, I just can’t imagine a planet such as this, especially the home of our [[Creator Son]]’s [[final bestowal]], being allowed to be annihilated. There are too many pieces of who we become as we evolve inward, that are [[contingent]] upon what we learn here.

Bob: So simply put it as the individual who is most important. Correct?

Bob: So simply put it as the [[individual]] who is most important. Correct?

Student: The individual? (Yes.) Uh…yes. Unique.

Student: The individual? (Yes.) Uh…yes. Unique.

Bob: That is the answer.

Bob: That is the answer.

Student: Bob, I have a couple of questions from previous lessons that have arrived via the Internet.

Student: Bob, I have a couple of questions from previous lessons that have arrived via the [[Internet]].

Bob: Let us tend to them when we have completed the lesson today. Is that fine? (Yes.) Thank you. Other questions related to the perfection of God?

Bob: Let us tend to them when we have completed the lesson today. Is that fine? (Yes.) Thank you. Other questions related to the [[perfection]] of God?

Student: You said in the beginning, that we shouldn’t think in terms of “nothing is perfect,” that we are doing a disservice to ourselves, as well as to our understanding of God, when we suggest that perfection is not possible. I guess I have never really thought in terms that nothing can be perfect. I think of snowflakes, for instance, and think of every single one of them as being perfection. Newborn babies, flowers—so much that we are surrounded by—beauty. While everything is different, it is all perfect in and of itself. The only things I think of as being imperfect are perhaps things that happen between people interacting with one another, often so imperfectly. There is nothing wrong with thinking in those terms of imperfection, is there?

Student: You said in the beginning, that we shouldn’t think in terms of “nothing is perfect,” that we are doing a disservice to ourselves, as well as to our understanding of God, when we suggest that perfection is not possible. I guess I have never really thought in terms that nothing can be perfect. I think of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowflakes snowflakes], for instance, and think of every single one of them as being [[perfection]]. Newborn babies, flowers—so much that we are [[surrounded]] by—[[beauty]]. While everything is different, it is all perfect in and of itself. The only things I think of as being imperfect are perhaps things that happen between people [[interacting]] with one another, often so imperfectly. There is nothing wrong with thinking in those terms of imperfection, is there?

Bob: No, of course not. Babies are perfect; so are snowflakes. And you are very correct in determining that imperfection arises from the decisions, the self-will decisions of individuals, who do not know perfection. But for those who are conscious of the journey, the attempt to become perfect becomes the ultimate chore, not as a competitive measurement of yourself against anyone else, but simply, it is your “work” to do. And that leads us into the second part of this lesson, which involves the love of God.

Bob: No, of course not. Babies are perfect; so are snowflakes. And you are very correct in determining that imperfection arises from the [[decisions]], the self-will [[decisions]] of [[individuals]], who do not know perfection. But for those who are conscious of the [[journey]], the attempt to become perfect becomes the ultimate chore, not as a [[competitive]] measurement of yourself against anyone else, but simply, it is your “work” to do. And that leads us into the second part of this lesson, which involves the [[love]] of God.

Your Creator is not an emotional being—so what is it about God that makes God loving? What is it that aids you to determine that God is loving? (Student: Our feelings.) Correct. Your feelings, your thoughts, your estimation of God. God does not know love; God is love! Yet God is not emotional; how can this be? 1) It is principally and almost totally determined by your own perceptions. God is not loving to those individuals who do not perceive the beneficence of the universe around them; they do not feel that God is loving because they do not enter into a physical relationship of dependence or independence, of support. The love of God emanates from its very being, its very nature. God is love. How can this be? As I said, it is solely dependent upon your interpretation.

Your Creator is not an [[emotional]] being—so what is it about God that makes God loving? What is it that aids you to determine that God is loving? (Student: Our [[feelings]].) Correct. Your feelings, your [[thoughts]], your estimation of God. God does not know love; God is love! Yet God is not emotional; how can this be? 1) It is principally and almost totally determined by your own [[perceptions]]. God is not loving to those individuals who do not [[perceive]] the [[beneficence]] of the universe around them; they do not [[feel]] that God is loving because they do not enter into a physical relationship of dependence or independence, of [[support]]. The love of God [[emanates]] from its very being, its very nature. God is love. How can this be? As I said, it is solely dependent upon your [[interpretation]].

Were you to see past the boundaries of time and of physical space, so that you were aware of more levels of consciousness and dimensions and states of being, if you were to see the morontial realm in its totality while you are still a mortal, you would have a better perspective of the total loving nature of God. All that is required for your sustenance, maintenance, development, and longevity, has been provided by the Creator. All that you need is available to you—and that is just on the “outer!” Were you to look inside, and really know the Divine Fragment that resides in you, you would see that the Creator is definitely loving. The love of God pervades the universe; the love of God emanates from its presence. And as the presence of the Creator inhabits those individuals with a fragment of its divine nature, there is God and there is Love.

Were you to see past the boundaries of time and of physical space, so that you were aware of more levels of consciousness and dimensions and states of being, if you were to see the morontial realm in its totality while you are still a mortal, you would have a better perspective of the total loving nature of God. All that is required for your sustenance, maintenance, development, and longevity, has been provided by the Creator. All that you need is available to you—and that is just on the “outer!” Were you to look inside, and really know the Divine Fragment that resides in you, you would see that the Creator is definitely loving. The love of God pervades the universe; the love of God emanates from its presence. And as the presence of the Creator inhabits those individuals with a fragment of its divine nature, there is God and there is Love.

Let us look at the other side of this: Where is NOT God? Where is NOT Love? Where are all the negative emotional states? Where do they exist? (Student: In unreality?) They exist in the self-willed decisions of selfish individuals, of immature individuals. So, you see, there is a purpose to your life, and that is to grow into love, to grow into perfection. Perfection and love are not synonymous, though they are very much related in the universe. As you become more perfect in your nature, you become more loving; as you become more loving, it becomes evident to all around you, to your guardian angel, to your Divine Fragment, and of course to your neighbors, to your friends, that you are loyal, you are compassionate, you are caring, you are forgiving—and this is just a very small list of positive qualities that you will find, that support the nature of loving.

Let us look at the other side of this: Where is NOT God? Where is NOT Love? Where are all the negative emotional states? Where do they exist? (Student: In unreality?) They exist in the self-willed decisions of selfish individuals, of immature individuals. So, you see, there is a purpose to your life, and that is to grow into love, to grow into perfection. Perfection and love are not synonymous, though they are very much related in the universe. As you become more perfect in your nature, you become more loving; as you become more loving, it becomes evident to all around you, to your guardian angel, to your Divine Fragment, and of course to your neighbors, to your friends, that you are loyal, you are compassionate, you are caring, you are forgiving—and this is just a very small list of positive qualities that you will find, that support the nature of loving.

Your journey is a journey of experience, of attaining perfection. But such a thought is really too profound to encompass or incorporate. It is much easier to attempt the process of becoming loving, rather than perfect, and in becoming loving you take on those attributes of a loving nature. Here is some homework for you: Write down all of the positive values that support having a loving nature. Write down all of those which you believe that you encompass fairly well—it doesn’t have to be right up there at 100%, but one that you are fairly consistent with. Write all of them down, the positive qualities of a loving nature. Then, make another list—list those negative values and qualities about yourself, which you desire to grow out of. Are you resentful? Are you spiteful? Are jealousy and envy too closely incorporated in your daily, moment-to-moment thinking? I would encourage you, I will help you to take one of those negative qualities and try to eliminate them. And what is the opposite of that negative quality? Yes, always loving, and being of a loving nature is always at the opposite of all negative ones, but which one is most closely related? And then work on that.

Your journey is a journey of experience, of attaining perfection. But such a thought is really too profound to encompass or incorporate. It is much easier to attempt the process of becoming loving, rather than perfect, and in becoming loving you take on those attributes of a loving nature. Here is some homework for you: Write down all of the positive values that support having a loving nature. Write down all of those which you believe that you encompass fairly well—it doesn’t have to be right up there at 100%, but one that you are fairly consistent with. Write all of them down, the positive qualities of a loving nature. Then, make another list—list those negative values and qualities about yourself, which you desire to grow out of. Are you resentful? Are you spiteful? Are jealousy and envy too closely incorporated in your daily, moment-to-moment thinking? I would encourage you, I will help you to take one of those negative qualities and try to eliminate them. And what is the opposite of that negative quality? Yes, always loving, and being of a loving nature is always at the opposite of all negative ones, but which one is most closely related? And then work on that.

Now, this is where many teachers of a human nature become lacking—they tell you to become perfect, to overcome these [negative qualities], but they do not give you the tools to do that. You were raised as a blank slate. Were you raised in a loving household where there was forgiveness, where there is no envy or jealousy, no spite or resentment—it would be easy to overcome those. The tools are already there; you were given them by being raised in a loving, functional family. But perhaps you were raised where resentment and envy were dominant; you would have a real struggle to overcome those, because they were ingrained in your thinking, they were a part of your learning process, part of your indoctrination. So you will need to remind yourself not to be spiteful, but to be forgiving, supportive and fair. You may want to participate in a self-help group; you may want to read books on how to overcome these aspects—they are available.

Now, this is where many teachers of a human nature become lacking—they tell you to become perfect, to overcome these [negative qualities], but they do not give you the tools to do that. You were raised as a blank slate. Were you raised in a loving household where there was forgiveness, where there is no envy or jealousy, no spite or resentment—it would be easy to overcome those. The tools are already there; you were given them by being raised in a loving, functional family. But perhaps you were raised where resentment and envy were dominant; you would have a real struggle to overcome those, because they were ingrained in your thinking, they were a part of your learning process, part of your indoctrination. So you will need to remind yourself not to be spiteful, but to be forgiving, supportive and fair. You may want to participate in a self-help group; you may want to read books on how to overcome these aspects—they are available.

1) Is to evaluate your growth, the positive qualities that you have taken on in your lifetime. Oftentimes, mortals are unaware of their own growth, until someone stops them and says, “My, you have really changed. You are such a wonderful person. I knew you when…” and they might recite some of your negative qualities in the past. It is important that you know that you have grown, that yes, you have evolved and have taken on more of a loving nature. And what does this do?

1) Is to evaluate your growth, the positive qualities that you have taken on in your lifetime. Oftentimes, mortals are unaware of their own growth, until someone stops them and says, “My, you have really changed. You are such a wonderful person. I knew you when…” and they might recite some of your negative qualities in the past. It is important that you know that you have grown, that yes, you have evolved and have taken on more of a loving nature. And what does this do?

2) It furthers your help to grow, your own strength to grow, to continue on when you think that you are incapable of growing. And

2) It furthers your help to grow, your own strength to grow, to continue on when you think that you are incapable of growing. And

3) It is important for you to develop your consciousness of yourself, your self-awareness, and most importantly, your self-appreciation. Many of you as you grow older, continue to denigrate yourself and belittle yourself for being such-and-such a way. Thought it is unfair as a pattern to say those things, at some times it may be appropriate if long-standing habits of a negative nature need to be addressed and overcome. Do not diminish the work of your Divine Fragment, the very essence of the loving nature of God invested in you, who is ever urging you to become greater than you are.

3) It is important for you to develop your consciousness of yourself, your self-awareness, and most importantly, your self-appreciation. Many of you as you grow older, continue to denigrate yourself and belittle yourself for being such-and-such a way. Thought it is unfair as a pattern to say those things, at some times it may be appropriate if long-standing habits of a negative nature need to be addressed and overcome. Do not diminish the work of your Divine Fragment, the very essence of the loving nature of God invested in you, who is ever urging you to become greater than you are.

Bob: We can provide no further confirmation other than these and past assurances through the TRs and Teaching Mission transcripts. This is a new revelation; this is the illustrated, personalized form of the Urantia Book. The Urantia Book was and is a wonderful beginning, a grand reference for your life in a large universe, a cosmology to assist you to understand your place and position and status and progress in the universe. Yet it is not complete. That is why the Correcting Time includes the Teaching Mission as an adjunct to the Urantia Book revelation. The Fifth epochal Revelation includes more than simply a “book.” But providing validation for this on the outer, in the form of perhaps another book, would be in question. Therefore, the support of this logic is only from within itself—it is a closed circuit to your thinking—but to a larger revelation, a mind that can see the larger revelation and speak and know and hear, from the Spirit of Truth, the Christ Spirit, which is here, you will know what is true and what is not true. That is the validating, but improvable source for these questions and answers. Do you believe that in your estimation, this answers the question? (It seems like it should satisfy him.) Thank you.

Bob: We can provide no further confirmation other than these and past assurances through the TRs and Teaching Mission transcripts. This is a new revelation; this is the illustrated, personalized form of the Urantia Book. The Urantia Book was and is a wonderful beginning, a grand reference for your life in a large universe, a cosmology to assist you to understand your place and position and status and progress in the universe. Yet it is not complete. That is why the Correcting Time includes the Teaching Mission as an adjunct to the Urantia Book revelation. The Fifth epochal Revelation includes more than simply a “book.” But providing validation for this on the outer, in the form of perhaps another book, would be in question. Therefore, the support of this logic is only from within itself—it is a closed circuit to your thinking—but to a larger revelation, a mind that can see the larger revelation and speak and know and hear, from the Spirit of Truth, the Christ Spirit, which is here, you will know what is true and what is not true. That is the validating, but improvable source for these questions and answers. Do you believe that in your estimation, this answers the question? (It seems like it should satisfy him.) Thank you.

Student: The second question is from someone who is familiar with the Padgett transmissions, (and I’m not,) and they say that not many mortals from Urantia have gone beyond the sixth mansion world, nor fused by their own choice, and he was wondering if this is true, and if so, what happens to them?

Student: The second question is from someone who is familiar with the Padgett transmissions, (and I’m not,) and they say that not many mortals from Urantia have gone beyond the sixth mansion world, nor fused by their own choice, and he was wondering if this is true, and if so, what happens to them?

Bob: That is your question? (Yes.) Because of the decisions God has made to build this world, create it, and because of the decisions of others, who have made this world a torment for you. This is also made beautiful by the decisions that you have made; it is also made a torment by the decisions you have made. The undoing of the torment is in taking on a more loving nature and living in a loving way. That may sound awfully romanticized, but in fact simply living life by making decisions of perfection, those qualities of living, which are exemplified in your spiritual heroes that you have mentioned today is a practical way of learning to live successfully in a large universe. Strive to take on these decisions, these ways of living and thinking, and you will find a world that is different.

Bob: That is your question? (Yes.) Because of the decisions God has made to build this world, create it, and because of the decisions of others, who have made this world a torment for you. This is also made beautiful by the decisions that you have made; it is also made a torment by the decisions you have made. The undoing of the torment is in taking on a more loving nature and living in a loving way. That may sound awfully romanticized, but in fact simply living life by making decisions of perfection, those qualities of living, which are exemplified in your spiritual heroes that you have mentioned today is a practical way of learning to live successfully in a large universe. Strive to take on these decisions, these ways of living and thinking, and you will find a world that is different.

Blessings to you all today, thank you for coming. We hope that you may be able to learn the lessons of loving more easily in your life, as it is difficult until you do. We understand this, and that is why there is so much help abiding by you and in you, and the awareness of that is becoming clearer. Good day. (Group: Thank you for coming.)

Blessings to you all today, thank you for coming. We hope that you may be able to learn the lessons of loving more easily in your life, as it is difficult until you do. We understand this, and that is why there is so much help abiding by you and in you, and the awareness of that is becoming clearer. Good day. (Group: Thank you for coming.)