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TELECONFERENCE
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===Topic: ''Fear, Reincarnation, Adjuster''===
 
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===Group: [[Lightline TeaM]]===
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==Facilitators==
Teacher: Machiventa Melchizadek
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===Teacher: [[Machiventa]]===
Transmitter: Mark Rogers
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===TR: [[Mark Rogers]]===
Subject: Fear...Reincarnation...Thought Adjuster Influences...Stillness
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==Session==
 
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===Opening===
March 18, 2004
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Machiventa: I would welcome the opportunity, even the privilege to be once again a part of this group that is formed in this new channel of access established. This is [[Machiventa]] [[Melchizedek]] and I delight in witnessing your discussions and would use your observations and discussions as a springboard to discuss the effects of fear as I notice in my T/R associate a trepidation, a sense of uncertainty that requires active engagement with the mortal mind to bring into control. Your fear reflex is as basic to you as your reflex to breathe.
 
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===Lesson===
Machiventa: I would welcome the opportunity, even the privilege to be once again a part of this group that is formed in this new channel of access established. This is Machiventa Melchizedek and I delight in witnessing your discussions and would use your observations and discussions as a springboard to discuss the effects of fear as I notice in my T/R associate a trepidation, a sense of uncertainty that requires active engagement with the mortal mind to bring into control. Your fear reflex is as basic to you as your reflex to breathe.
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===='''''[[Fear]]'''''====
 
   
It has been an extremely useful reflex for your ancestors to have had as it has provided great stimulus for them to avoid unnecessary loss of life and unnecessary hardship when used to motivate an individual to avoid a harmful situation. In this example, fear has played a positive role in the preservation and prosperity of your ancestors and is deeply imbedded in your genetic code as part of your history.
 
It has been an extremely useful reflex for your ancestors to have had as it has provided great stimulus for them to avoid unnecessary loss of life and unnecessary hardship when used to motivate an individual to avoid a harmful situation. In this example, fear has played a positive role in the preservation and prosperity of your ancestors and is deeply imbedded in your genetic code as part of your history.
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As a world develops, it becomes necessary to reevaluate the function of fear in your lives. As your perspective becomes more spiritual, it becomes necessary to reevaluate whether this impulse of fear is a stimulant which serves you as beneficial or whether in fact the triggered fear response is responsible for what otherwise might be a positive and growthful experience for you. The fear of falling is what grips you when standing next to a deep abyss and what keeps you from the desire to become reckless with your life as you are balanced on the precipice.
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As a world develops, it becomes necessary to reevaluate the function of fear in your lives. As your perspective becomes more [[spiritual]], it becomes necessary to reevaluate whether this impulse of fear is a stimulant which serves you as beneficial or whether in fact the triggered fear response is responsible for what otherwise might be a positive and growthful experience for you. The fear of falling is what grips you when standing next to a deep [[abyss]] and what keeps you from the desire to become reckless with your life as you are balanced on the precipice.
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That example of fear is the proper use of the fear response to preserve your life. The fear of not being accepted or of not being understood can lead to the stifling of an individuals expression and the subsequent growth involved in that decision. In that example, the fear response has been automatically triggered and the individual has responded by withdrawing from the fear of the unknown and thereby has denied themselves the experience of growth involved in the expression of these mortal desires. It becomes necessary as you develop, to keep in check the unnecessary triggering of this fear response, so as to rob you of the full extent of your life experience. This is accomplished through sheer force of will, to override this inherent fear response with your mind circuit, your knowledge that the universe is a safe place, that your place in it is assured, that these conditions exist whereby your fear becomes unwarranted and you can deny yourself this response to this fear reaction.
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That example of fear is the proper use of the fear response to preserve your life. The fear of not being accepted or of not being understood can lead to the stifling of an [[individual]]'s expression and the subsequent growth involved in that decision. In that example, the fear response has been automatically triggered and the individual has responded by withdrawing from the fear of the unknown and thereby has denied themselves the [[experience]] of growth involved in the expression of these mortal desires. It becomes necessary as you develop, to keep in check the unnecessary triggering of this fear response, so as to rob you of the full extent of your life experience. This is accomplished through sheer force of [[will]], to override this inherent fear response with your mind circuit, your knowledge that the [[universe]] is a safe place, that your place in it is assured, that these conditions exist whereby your fear becomes unwarranted and you can deny yourself this response to this fear reaction.
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This is an active role one plays when you recognize that fear has been triggered and this response is underway. You have the authority at any time to intervene in what is an automatic response, and override it through this force of will. This technique when applied by any individual, can override this automatic response and can supplant it with a higher objective, a more spiritual response. This is one of the largest paradigms that you grapple with on your world. This fear element has served your ancestors for a very long time and serves you well even now when appropriately applied, but as your dangers have reduced on your planet, the need for this intense fear response must diminish.
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This is an active role one plays when you recognize that fear has been triggered and this response is underway. You have the [[authority]] at any time to intervene in what is an automatic response, and override it through this force of will. This technique when applied by any individual, can override this automatic response and can supplant it with a higher objective, a more spiritual response. This is one of the largest paradigms that you grapple with on your world. This fear element has served your ancestors for a very long time and serves you well even now when appropriately applied, but as your dangers have reduced on your planet, the need for this intense fear response must diminish.
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This technique I speak of is a key that can be used by you to gain access to a more spiritual platform through the denial of your fear response and the acceptance of a higher reality. These lessons that we provide for you, are a series of keys which may be used in guiding you in understanding, in gaining passage to a greater understanding, and overcoming an apparent obstacle before you, as just a guide to your understanding, a map to your development. These keys that we provide for you are yours to take with you once you have gained the understanding of the use of this tool, the use of this key, the properties of the key. These keys become yours as your tools in the toolbox to navigate through the obstacles that come before you and the art of living is learning which keys to apply to which of your lifes circumstances to most easily unlock the spirit content and pass through to the spiritual understanding.
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This technique I speak of is a key that can be used by you to gain access to a more spiritual platform through the denial of your fear response and the acceptance of a higher reality. These lessons that we provide for you, are a series of keys which may be used in guiding you in understanding, in gaining passage to a greater understanding, and overcoming an apparent obstacle before you, as just a guide to your understanding, a map to your development. These keys that we provide for you are yours to take with you once you have gained the understanding of the use of this tool, the use of this key, the properties of the key. These keys become yours as your tools in the toolbox to navigate through the obstacles that come before you and the [[art of living]] is learning which keys to apply to which of your lifes circumstances to most easily unlock the [[spirit]] [[content]] and pass through to the spiritual understanding.
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We have provided over the years many key themes and they all may be used at different times under different circumstances to apply great leverage to the situation. Each one of you is also an individual, an individual passage to greater understanding, to the wisdom of your life experience, to the wisdom of anothers' life experience. You can not only be a key to your own art of living, but you might also find yourself providing the key to another’s understanding to the art of living. Therefore you must see yourselves as collecting these keys, and also as being these keys, as each of you are uniquely suited to apply the exact leverage necessary to accommodate the passage of understanding necessary.
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We have provided over the years many key themes and they all may be used at different times under different circumstances to apply great leverage to the situation. Each one of you is also an individual, an individual passage to greater understanding, to the [[wisdom]] of your life [[experience]], to the wisdom of anothers' life experience. You can not only be a key to your own art of living, but you might also find yourself providing the key to another’s understanding to the art of living. Therefore you must see yourselves as collecting these keys, and also as being these keys, as each of you are uniquely suited to apply the exact leverage necessary to accommodate the passage of understanding necessary.
    
I would open up the line for any dialogue at this time as I have delivered my intended lesson for the day and would welcome any comments or questions as it helps us to determine how to proceed with future lesson plans.
 
I would open up the line for any dialogue at this time as I have delivered my intended lesson for the day and would welcome any comments or questions as it helps us to determine how to proceed with future lesson plans.
 
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===Dialogue===
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===='''''[[Thought Adjusters]]'''''====
 
Question: I have been asked to help a nephew of mine that happens to be in jail at the moment. I have been using some of the methods you have stated and would like to know if my thought adjuster could be used to contact the other persons adjuster or ones of my relatives. Could you comment on that please?
 
Question: I have been asked to help a nephew of mine that happens to be in jail at the moment. I have been using some of the methods you have stated and would like to know if my thought adjuster could be used to contact the other persons adjuster or ones of my relatives. Could you comment on that please?
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Machiventa: Surely, it is an actual component of your being, this aspect of the thoughter, likewise it is a component of the being of every other individual you are likely to ever come in contact with. If you realize that this is a part of you and a part of them, and you attempt to share on this level, it most certainly can be accomplished, however this is greatly subject to individual levels of participation. That is to say that your thought adjuster, under no circumstances, can bridge the gap and become an univited guest to communicate with anothers thought adjuster. If the permission has not been granted in all directions, no such contact could occur. If the opposite is true, and permission has been granted by both individuals and their subsequent thought adjusters, then it is entirely possible for this communication to take place and you will find that this seemingly unknown of, unheard of communication on your world will one day become the normal mode of communication between you as individuals. However those times are remote from now, and at this point you rely on the permission of your thought adjusters to have any such contact with other individuals, and if they're not in the same mind set and acceptance level as you, there may be an incompatibility between the exchange of free thought, between two individuals.
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Machiventa: Surely, it is an actual component of your being, this aspect of the thought adjuster, likewise it is a component of the being of every other individual you are likely to ever come in contact with. If you realize that this is a part of you and a part of them, and you attempt to share on this level, it most certainly can be accomplished, however this is greatly subject to individual levels of participation. That is to say that your thought adjuster, under no circumstances, can bridge the gap and become an univited guest to communicate with anothers thought adjuster. If the permission has not been granted in all directions, no such contact could occur. If the opposite is true, and permission has been granted by both individuals and their subsequent thought adjusters, then it is entirely possible for this communication to take place and you will find that this seemingly unknown of, unheard of communication on your world will one day become the normal mode of communication between you as individuals. However those times are remote from now, and at this point you rely on the permission of your thought adjusters to have any such contact with other individuals, and if they're not in the same mind set and acceptance level as you, there may be an incompatibility between the exchange of free thought, between two individuals.
    
However, I would redirect your line of thinking and would install the idea of a third party intermediary between you and another individual and that is the spirit of Michael, that can negociate the difference between individual spiritual levels and can be used to interpret and provide insight between individuals through the circuit of the spirit of truth. This is entirely possible, this is desirable. This is the way diverse individuals may come to intimate understanding. It is not necessary for you to have complete control over access to your indwelling spirit for you to have unlimited access to Michael, Nebadonia and others who may perform this similar function for you as an extension of their spirit. This is also a component of all of your beings. This needs to be recognized as a relevant part of your lives, not an unknown and unexplored dimension of your being, but rather an accepted and accommodated aspect of your selves.
 
However, I would redirect your line of thinking and would install the idea of a third party intermediary between you and another individual and that is the spirit of Michael, that can negociate the difference between individual spiritual levels and can be used to interpret and provide insight between individuals through the circuit of the spirit of truth. This is entirely possible, this is desirable. This is the way diverse individuals may come to intimate understanding. It is not necessary for you to have complete control over access to your indwelling spirit for you to have unlimited access to Michael, Nebadonia and others who may perform this similar function for you as an extension of their spirit. This is also a component of all of your beings. This needs to be recognized as a relevant part of your lives, not an unknown and unexplored dimension of your being, but rather an accepted and accommodated aspect of your selves.
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Machiventa: You are most welcome and I honor each of you who are searching for these keys to unlock your spiritual expression, your dimension of spirit. I remain ever willing to assist in this advancement of using these keys to facilitate your art of living.
 
Machiventa: You are most welcome and I honor each of you who are searching for these keys to unlock your spiritual expression, your dimension of spirit. I remain ever willing to assist in this advancement of using these keys to facilitate your art of living.
 
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===='''''[[Reincarnation]]'''''====
 
Question: This is related to the comments on the thought adjusters in some respect. I hear people speaking often of what they call "past lives" and a form of therapy has been developed called "past life regression" and sometime I have mixed feelings about what is being talked about. I haven't come across it yet in the Urantia book, but what might they be speaking about in what I understand is world number one, in terms of past lives. Is this something related to where the thought adjuster has been?
 
Question: This is related to the comments on the thought adjusters in some respect. I hear people speaking often of what they call "past lives" and a form of therapy has been developed called "past life regression" and sometime I have mixed feelings about what is being talked about. I haven't come across it yet in the Urantia book, but what might they be speaking about in what I understand is world number one, in terms of past lives. Is this something related to where the thought adjuster has been?
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Therefore if they find themselves assigned to an individual who does not choose to proceed forward, they are reassigned so that they may fulfill their ultimate destiny. This is not a common occasion, but on your world it has not been until recently, to your species, that most individuals are aware enough now to choose eternal survival. Your ancestors may have lived lives of ignorance and been unable to make proper choices about their eternal career, and this is all part of the key role that free will plays in this process. The individuals are always given every opportunity and circumstance to make their own decisions and are allowed the freedom to choose not to go. So it is possible that this occurs from time to time, but the far more likely scenario for individuals who feel that they encountered experiences that they cannot account for, is that they have exercised this spiritual circuit and have accessed this cosmic consciousness and have had a flash of experience for which they cannot account.
 
Therefore if they find themselves assigned to an individual who does not choose to proceed forward, they are reassigned so that they may fulfill their ultimate destiny. This is not a common occasion, but on your world it has not been until recently, to your species, that most individuals are aware enough now to choose eternal survival. Your ancestors may have lived lives of ignorance and been unable to make proper choices about their eternal career, and this is all part of the key role that free will plays in this process. The individuals are always given every opportunity and circumstance to make their own decisions and are allowed the freedom to choose not to go. So it is possible that this occurs from time to time, but the far more likely scenario for individuals who feel that they encountered experiences that they cannot account for, is that they have exercised this spiritual circuit and have accessed this cosmic consciousness and have had a flash of experience for which they cannot account.
 
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===='''''[[Thought Adjusters]]'''''====
 
Question: Is it strictly the fact that young souls or old souls or whatever,
 
Question: Is it strictly the fact that young souls or old souls or whatever,
 
is entirely controlled by the thought adjuster?
 
is entirely controlled by the thought adjuster?
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Machiventa: In fact, very little is controlled by the thought adjuster. The thought adjuster acts in response to the decisions and motivations of the individuals they are assigned to. Very rarely are they extended the opportunity to be very effective in this decision making process of the individual. So the statement that the thought adjusters are responsible for the level of someone’s spiritual familiarity is more correctly stated as the individual in question, having provided greater access and permission to the thought adjuster to become active, and this relationship of dependency is consistent throughout the journey together that these individuals take.
 
Machiventa: In fact, very little is controlled by the thought adjuster. The thought adjuster acts in response to the decisions and motivations of the individuals they are assigned to. Very rarely are they extended the opportunity to be very effective in this decision making process of the individual. So the statement that the thought adjusters are responsible for the level of someone’s spiritual familiarity is more correctly stated as the individual in question, having provided greater access and permission to the thought adjuster to become active, and this relationship of dependency is consistent throughout the journey together that these individuals take.
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It is indeed a partnership between yourself and your thought adjuster as to your rate of spiritual advancement, your level of spiritual attainment, your awareness of spiritual content. It is important to remember that this is a partnership between you and your thought adjuster and to provide
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It is indeed a partnership between yourself and your thought adjuster as to your rate of spiritual advancement, your level of spiritual attainment, your awareness of spiritual content. It is important to remember that this is a partnership between you and your thought adjuster and to provide your thought adjuster with permission to act on your behalf. The thought adjuster, like any other spiritualized being that you may come in contact with, is bound by this free willed choice that you must excercise in order to complete this circuit and enable the thought adjuster to become a more prominent force in your lives, in your descision making processes, even in your value structure.
your thought adjuster with permission to act on your behalf. The thought adjuster, like any other spiritualized being that you may come in contact with, is bound by this free willed choice that you must excercise in order to complete this circuit and enable the thought adjuster to become a more prominent force in your lives, in your descision making processes, even in your value structure.
      
I would also mention, as we do regularly, that stillness is a technique, a key, whereby you may get yourselves closer to accessing this channel of your thought adjuster, this component of yourseld..your spirit self, that stillness provides you with the necessary orientation to be able to navigate this spiritual dimension, and through stillness you will develop your keys for your art of living.
 
I would also mention, as we do regularly, that stillness is a technique, a key, whereby you may get yourselves closer to accessing this channel of your thought adjuster, this component of yourseld..your spirit self, that stillness provides you with the necessary orientation to be able to navigate this spiritual dimension, and through stillness you will develop your keys for your art of living.
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He is qualified to make the judgements for you about your spiritual exposure, and when you act in consort with him it provides the necessary shift for the playing field to change, for the partner who is so ever willing, and ever patient with you, to become more active. Never doubt that your thought adjuster is always in observation of you, always awaits your signal for advancement, knows the deepest and most sincere desires of your heart. There is no misrepresenting yourself to your thought adjuster. It simply is not possible. There is no isolation of yourself from your thought adjuster. That as well is not possible. You are partners, and you will remain partners until you indeed become one.
 
He is qualified to make the judgements for you about your spiritual exposure, and when you act in consort with him it provides the necessary shift for the playing field to change, for the partner who is so ever willing, and ever patient with you, to become more active. Never doubt that your thought adjuster is always in observation of you, always awaits your signal for advancement, knows the deepest and most sincere desires of your heart. There is no misrepresenting yourself to your thought adjuster. It simply is not possible. There is no isolation of yourself from your thought adjuster. That as well is not possible. You are partners, and you will remain partners until you indeed become one.
 
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===Closing===
 
Machiventa: I would close this with a prayer. Divine parents who reside at the center of all things, and who reside at the center of each of us, please be with us, live through us, be welcome in our lives, in our circles be welcome as we experience this life. We welcome you to share it with us. As our gift to you, we bring you our experiences, we bring you our observation, we bring you our love, the observations of our lives. Please take these as our gifts. We offer them to you as the only things we indeed have to offer. We know that is because of you that we accumulate these experiences and we live these lives. We want you to know that we cherish them, we will take care of them, we will grow them and we will return them to you to be shared by all. Thank you for this opportunity for this privilege, for this life.
 
Machiventa: I would close this with a prayer. Divine parents who reside at the center of all things, and who reside at the center of each of us, please be with us, live through us, be welcome in our lives, in our circles be welcome as we experience this life. We welcome you to share it with us. As our gift to you, we bring you our experiences, we bring you our observation, we bring you our love, the observations of our lives. Please take these as our gifts. We offer them to you as the only things we indeed have to offer. We know that is because of you that we accumulate these experiences and we live these lives. We want you to know that we cherish them, we will take care of them, we will grow them and we will return them to you to be shared by all. Thank you for this opportunity for this privilege, for this life.
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