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Marin T/M Group—Mill Valley, California—U. S. A.
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===Topic: ''Truth, Reality, & Freedom''===
 
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===Group: [[Marin TeaM]]===
NEBADONIA—T/R-JL
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==Facilitators==
 
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===Teacher: [[Nebadonia]], [[Anatolia]]===
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===TR: [[Gerdean]]===
      (Truth and Reality)
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==Session==
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===Opening===
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      (Truth and Freedom)
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      (Visualization)
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      (Truth and Human Reality)
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      (Truth and Self-questioning)
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January 16, 2006
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Dear Mother and Michael, Tonight we want to thank You for pointing the way, for being our forward scouts out into this new territory of faith for us. We treasure Your ability to cut right through to the spiritual heart of our questions, then pay us the respect of being very direct and frank with us. In this You give us wonderful examples of what a true friend is. Amen.
 
Dear Mother and Michael, Tonight we want to thank You for pointing the way, for being our forward scouts out into this new territory of faith for us. We treasure Your ability to cut right through to the spiritual heart of our questions, then pay us the respect of being very direct and frank with us. In this You give us wonderful examples of what a true friend is. Amen.
    
Good evening, My sons, this is Nebadonia. Being your Mother Spirit, I too welcome the feedback you give Me, and I cherish the love in your words. I have a mother’s heart that strives to be wise with My children, and I am glad you recognize this is, at times, what you call tough-love, which is after all the realization of the importance of truth. You know that wonderful saying: You shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.
 
Good evening, My sons, this is Nebadonia. Being your Mother Spirit, I too welcome the feedback you give Me, and I cherish the love in your words. I have a mother’s heart that strives to be wise with My children, and I am glad you recognize this is, at times, what you call tough-love, which is after all the realization of the importance of truth. You know that wonderful saying: You shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.
 
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===Lesson===
(Truth and reality)
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*(Truth and reality)
    
To your modern minds another good word for truth is reality--that which is real, that which actually exists. You are all striving to be fully existential, and you will slowly achieve this, though it may take uncountable millions of years. For in this dimension too, My children, there is no limit. Even after you become pure spirits and leave our Local Universe to head out into your galactic adventure, still you will be just starting that phase of your existence. There are many, many steps to go before you achieve a final existential existence, and become what is appropriately called a Finaliter in the Paradise Corps of the Finality.
 
To your modern minds another good word for truth is reality--that which is real, that which actually exists. You are all striving to be fully existential, and you will slowly achieve this, though it may take uncountable millions of years. For in this dimension too, My children, there is no limit. Even after you become pure spirits and leave our Local Universe to head out into your galactic adventure, still you will be just starting that phase of your existence. There are many, many steps to go before you achieve a final existential existence, and become what is appropriately called a Finaliter in the Paradise Corps of the Finality.
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Starting out as a nodule of experience--a focal point of personality in time and space, in time you will finally become final: and then, of course, there are six more galaxies to go out and explore. This is the nature of your present existence and potential. As your Urantia book assures you, and so have We, you are already existential in the very fact of your existence. In this one aspect you are already absolute, for your personality is a creation of God the Father. And so as you strive for truth in order to be free, what exactly is it you are being free from?
 
Starting out as a nodule of experience--a focal point of personality in time and space, in time you will finally become final: and then, of course, there are six more galaxies to go out and explore. This is the nature of your present existence and potential. As your Urantia book assures you, and so have We, you are already existential in the very fact of your existence. In this one aspect you are already absolute, for your personality is a creation of God the Father. And so as you strive for truth in order to be free, what exactly is it you are being free from?
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(Truth and knowledge)
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*(Truth and knowledge)
    
This is the qualitative difference between knowledge and truth. Knowledge is a possession. It is what you have earned and, when you think about it, your increasing wisdom tells you that knowledge, or facts--physical facts, correlated and organized in meaningful ways by your mind; all these have truth within a fairly small and circumscribed context. Truth Itself is just the largest conceivable context, which, by definition, can never be a possession. God alone possess truth because God alone, shared only with the other absolute members of the Trinity, is Truth; is the fullness of reality; is the sum total of all existence. Yet for we subordinate beings who can never hope to possess truth, we can revere it as an orientation. Whereas you can never have truth as you have facts, or understand meanings--and be relatively confident in their application extending on into the future; still truth can be your orientation and serve as a humbling reminder that there is always something more. The context of your existence is like the horizon, always out there surrounding you, encompassing you. From a spiritual standpoint, you can slowly achieve a near absolute confidence in the existence of truth, even though you cannot hold it, you cannot possess it. True enough, this is, at your stage of existence, very much a matter of faith. For in this sense it is inseparable from your inner convictions of the reality of God himself. So it is not something you can ever prove to anyone else. Neither God nor truth can be empirically demonstrated like a mathematical theorem, or the laws of chemistry and physics.
 
This is the qualitative difference between knowledge and truth. Knowledge is a possession. It is what you have earned and, when you think about it, your increasing wisdom tells you that knowledge, or facts--physical facts, correlated and organized in meaningful ways by your mind; all these have truth within a fairly small and circumscribed context. Truth Itself is just the largest conceivable context, which, by definition, can never be a possession. God alone possess truth because God alone, shared only with the other absolute members of the Trinity, is Truth; is the fullness of reality; is the sum total of all existence. Yet for we subordinate beings who can never hope to possess truth, we can revere it as an orientation. Whereas you can never have truth as you have facts, or understand meanings--and be relatively confident in their application extending on into the future; still truth can be your orientation and serve as a humbling reminder that there is always something more. The context of your existence is like the horizon, always out there surrounding you, encompassing you. From a spiritual standpoint, you can slowly achieve a near absolute confidence in the existence of truth, even though you cannot hold it, you cannot possess it. True enough, this is, at your stage of existence, very much a matter of faith. For in this sense it is inseparable from your inner convictions of the reality of God himself. So it is not something you can ever prove to anyone else. Neither God nor truth can be empirically demonstrated like a mathematical theorem, or the laws of chemistry and physics.
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We looked at this once before in it’s social and political implications, how certain individuals in power, cherishing an inner illusion that they know what is absolutely right and correct, have all through history perpetrated the most obscene horrors on their fellows. We’ve also looked at a general trend of maturity being a matter of ever so slowly but certainly getting the inner self-confidence to let go of these illusions of generalities and prejudices, so you can experience the truth of the infinity of every other personality you encounter.
 
We looked at this once before in it’s social and political implications, how certain individuals in power, cherishing an inner illusion that they know what is absolutely right and correct, have all through history perpetrated the most obscene horrors on their fellows. We’ve also looked at a general trend of maturity being a matter of ever so slowly but certainly getting the inner self-confidence to let go of these illusions of generalities and prejudices, so you can experience the truth of the infinity of every other personality you encounter.
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(Truth and freedom)
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So if this is the truth, My children, if every other personal being of whatever kind bears the hallmark, the stamp if you will, of God’s hand in their creation; if this is the truth and you are able to see it, you are able to experience other folks this way; what is it you are being freed from? Isn’t it obvious you are being freed from the enormously self-limiting illusions of all your generalities, and stereotypes, and prejudices? These are small, constraining contexts that some folks might live their life within and never touch the reality, never experience and possess the enormous wealth of all these other wonderful souls that are possible to know.
 
So if this is the truth, My children, if every other personal being of whatever kind bears the hallmark, the stamp if you will, of God’s hand in their creation; if this is the truth and you are able to see it, you are able to experience other folks this way; what is it you are being freed from? Isn’t it obvious you are being freed from the enormously self-limiting illusions of all your generalities, and stereotypes, and prejudices? These are small, constraining contexts that some folks might live their life within and never touch the reality, never experience and possess the enormous wealth of all these other wonderful souls that are possible to know.
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If you have any questions or comments, My sons, let Me hear them. They are My adventures.
 
If you have any questions or comments, My sons, let Me hear them. They are My adventures.
 
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===Dialogue===
 
Student: Mother, what is visualization, and how do I do it--especially with respect with the Akashic Construct? I would like to be involved in that, and heal people as well as myself, and I have no clue to what visualization is.
 
Student: Mother, what is visualization, and how do I do it--especially with respect with the Akashic Construct? I would like to be involved in that, and heal people as well as myself, and I have no clue to what visualization is.
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NEBADONIA: Yes, C, once again you bring Me a term that has many meanings, in many different contexts. Normal waking visualization is, as we have looked at before, a combination of the excitation from some external stimuli impacting your sense organs, such as sight, which are interpreted by your brain and then, with the powers of your mind, given an objective-seeming reality which may or may not correspond to the external object. In terms of consciousness, on the extreme other end of the spectrum, you have your dreams, some of which you’ve all experienced can seem very realistic at times.
 
NEBADONIA: Yes, C, once again you bring Me a term that has many meanings, in many different contexts. Normal waking visualization is, as we have looked at before, a combination of the excitation from some external stimuli impacting your sense organs, such as sight, which are interpreted by your brain and then, with the powers of your mind, given an objective-seeming reality which may or may not correspond to the external object. In terms of consciousness, on the extreme other end of the spectrum, you have your dreams, some of which you’ve all experienced can seem very realistic at times.
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Student: But then how do we exist?
 
Student: But then how do we exist?
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NEBADONIA: You exist because your consciousness is put into a transcendent vehicle. This vehicle has been all mankind’s study, yet even though you have libraries of literally millions of books on topics of just, shall we say, just your physical being, let alone the mental and spiritual dimensions of being human, this remains still a transcendent encompassing that supports your consciousness, without which your personality cannot yet experience, or constantly strive to learn more.
 
NEBADONIA: You exist because your consciousness is put into a transcendent vehicle. This vehicle has been all mankind’s study, yet even though you have libraries of literally millions of books on topics of just, shall we say, just your physical being, let alone the mental and spiritual dimensions of being human, this remains still a transcendent encompassing that supports your consciousness, without which your personality cannot yet experience, or constantly strive to learn more.
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NEBADONIA: Yes, this is true. It really is God. God is truth. God is absolute, and infinite, a fully existential Being such as you can only grow towards. But starting out as you are, somewhat like a tadpole, (laughter—this is an old joke and tease between D and Michael and Mother Spirit) you are still 99.9999 percent experiential, My son. Only the fact of your existence is absolute. As you know there are many, many poor souls who are in such a state of mind day to day, they suffer enormously, unbelievably, in doubting their own existence. They can be so deranged this way they cannot support their existence, but must be compassionately institutionalized. This is why We say your true home is on the edge of the unknown, because God and His total creation are beyond the comprehension of any sub-absolute being. In this sense God is only fully known by His other absolute associates, the Eternal Son, and the Infinite Spirit. The only way sub-absolute beings can know Him is through faith. In this you can all be faith-sons of the living God now, as you slowly, over eons and eons of time, augment your own existential quotient of being.
 
NEBADONIA: Yes, this is true. It really is God. God is truth. God is absolute, and infinite, a fully existential Being such as you can only grow towards. But starting out as you are, somewhat like a tadpole, (laughter—this is an old joke and tease between D and Michael and Mother Spirit) you are still 99.9999 percent experiential, My son. Only the fact of your existence is absolute. As you know there are many, many poor souls who are in such a state of mind day to day, they suffer enormously, unbelievably, in doubting their own existence. They can be so deranged this way they cannot support their existence, but must be compassionately institutionalized. This is why We say your true home is on the edge of the unknown, because God and His total creation are beyond the comprehension of any sub-absolute being. In this sense God is only fully known by His other absolute associates, the Eternal Son, and the Infinite Spirit. The only way sub-absolute beings can know Him is through faith. In this you can all be faith-sons of the living God now, as you slowly, over eons and eons of time, augment your own existential quotient of being.
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Let Me add one further thing along these lines. There is a great difference between self-doubt and self-questioning. I’ve tried to point out tonight there is a way you can validly and self-honestly still your doubts as to your existence, and the existence of truth, and God, and thereby gain the self confidence, the inner self-assurance that allows you, then, to question everything you know and believe, in your striving for ever greater truth. (a long, puzzled hmmm…followed) I think you know, My son, much of what I say is meant for study. I don’t expect you to comprehend it instantaneously. (laughter)
 
Let Me add one further thing along these lines. There is a great difference between self-doubt and self-questioning. I’ve tried to point out tonight there is a way you can validly and self-honestly still your doubts as to your existence, and the existence of truth, and God, and thereby gain the self confidence, the inner self-assurance that allows you, then, to question everything you know and believe, in your striving for ever greater truth. (a long, puzzled hmmm…followed) I think you know, My son, much of what I say is meant for study. I don’t expect you to comprehend it instantaneously. (laughter)
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NEBADONIA: Oh, I have—very much, very much. I think you know you’re in My love.
 
NEBADONIA: Oh, I have—very much, very much. I think you know you’re in My love.
 
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===Closing===
 
Well boys, let’s wrap this up. It has been quite an adventure this evening. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed it. You really have taken to heart what I chose to talk about. It’s a delight to have My children question Me, and then be so open, and entertain what I have to offer. Neither Michael nor I desire any kind of blind belief or faith. Rather, We invite you to question Us as you question yourselves, and each other. At the same time, trust in your perception of Our presence, for as you are finding out, spirit is most ungraspable. You cannot literally possess it as you do a physical fact or mental meaning, but you can very validly be possessed by it, and feel its love right down into every cell of your body. Spirit is the source of the facts and the meaning you find in your life. And so We worship and thank Him--He who is spirit! Be in My love. Good evening.
 
Well boys, let’s wrap this up. It has been quite an adventure this evening. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed it. You really have taken to heart what I chose to talk about. It’s a delight to have My children question Me, and then be so open, and entertain what I have to offer. Neither Michael nor I desire any kind of blind belief or faith. Rather, We invite you to question Us as you question yourselves, and each other. At the same time, trust in your perception of Our presence, for as you are finding out, spirit is most ungraspable. You cannot literally possess it as you do a physical fact or mental meaning, but you can very validly be possessed by it, and feel its love right down into every cell of your body. Spirit is the source of the facts and the meaning you find in your life. And so We worship and thank Him--He who is spirit! Be in My love. Good evening.
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