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Topic: Forgiveness

Group: Lightline TeaM


Teacher: Thought Adjuster, Michael

TR: Mark Rogers, Henry Z.



Preamble: [Mark] I come equipped with a tweak to start off with, at least in my universe of awareness, about this idea of forgiveness. Of course we've all discussed dimensions of this at different times and different aspects of it but I can't help but notice it is a prevalent theme and what's going on in me, around me and in my circles. Just the word started going around and around my mind and I started looking at the word forgiveness. It didn't designate much more than the word forgiveness, to forgive somebody, but it stared coming apart as it went around and around in my mind. 'For'-giveness is like in advance of, preconditioned, for-giveness, generosity, willingness, the ability to bestow and give.

So it started to make sense to me that this forgiveness is the predisposition to be generous and giving in your assessment of whatever it is before you that needs some form of recognition, usually involved around somebody doing something that offends or disturbs and then there is this "need" that arises for this forgiveness, for a predisposition to be generous in understanding and relating. I happened to be reading the Urantia Book in the section about the default of Adam and Eve and there is this great sorrowful thing that happens when they default from their original mandated mission.

Certainly they have to suffer the consequences of their actions and their choices but the universe has already forgiven them and proved to be a friendly place to them in advance. Before it was even necessary, the Father had forgiven them. I got to thinking about that whole thing and if everything is forgiven even in advance from on high there is that much predisposition to be generous with an assessment of us. If we could just realize that is happening to us, it is happening all the time, then certainly shouldn't that be the way we should be to others when they are in front of us and in some "need" of forgiveness. If we are in need of forgiveness, wouldn't we want those who we have offended to have a predisposition to be generous in their dealings with us.

So I offer it up as a manifestation. I had the 'thought,' I expressed in 'word' what my thought was and brought it from solely within me now out into our collective awareness and now I offer to follow up with the 'deed' of positioning myself and creating the scenario to facilitate the manifestation of this desire to know about forgiveness and anything else that the celestials would like to offer.

Prayer: [Mark] Divine Parents, thank you for your generous dealings with us, for your forgiveness of our many missteps and many deeds that we are in ignorance that we have even done. Certainly missteps are required for us to learn and grow and establish the conditions that we believe to be right. And so in this process we stumble and fall and you never judge us harshly, you never offer criticism of us; rather you are always there for us, to encourage and to gently support and nourish us throughout the process because you see us as not in error but merely in growth. Thank you each, thank you for your loving watch care. We adore you and love you as well.


The Voice: Greetings, I will open the door and walk through this door that you have created just for this occasion. I would enter into your sanctuary that you have built for this purpose. I am this one's Inner Voice as I am referred to. But of course word symbols are only symbols meant to describe and portray, but only gestures towards the real thing. I welcome the opportunity to pick up the baton, as it were, and to talk for a moment about this whole notion of forgiveness.

My dear ones, I cannot impress upon you the magnitude of the significance of this realization and awakening in your awareness. There are many factors which are involved in the conditioning of your ascension career and your growth of course, but few are as paralyzing and debilitating as this phenomenon of holding on to past traumatic events because there has been no internal reconciliation, no mechanism by which one can release the trauma from impinging on their current reality.

As long as you continually are tied to traumatic events in your life you are not free to move about freely. You have these cords attached to you which act as an anchor on you as you try to navigate your way and such a drag on your forward momentum prove too much for many in this mortal existence to overcome because they simply have lacked the mechanism to cut themselves free from these cords which bind them. This idea of the need to forgive is the key to freeing yourself from the bondage of your past, from the time before where you weren't who you are now. You were who you were when these events occurred but you are a different, fuller, more complete person now and you would grow and become a total complete fulfilled human being if you manage to sever those ties which bind you to certain times and places and condition your ability to move forward.

The act of forgiving is not done for the one who has been of offense or the circumstance which was unacceptable for these things may never even become aware of your forgiveness for them but as long as you cannot forgive they have a hold on you. You cannot stray far from them, you are tied to them and it takes a conscious act of will to engage in the sincere process of forgiveness in which you may literally envision cutting such cords and allowing such significant events in your life to drift away from you and give you space and the opportunity to expand your life experience.

And so I am encouraged that this topic has taken some root and will provide some wonderful opportunities such as this to illuminate the importance of the gift one gives them-self when they forgive another or an event or a sorrow because these things must be let go with intention and this letting go is what happens when there is sincere forgiveness. Then there may be forgetting as well as forgiving. This is not easily undertaken by some without some directed efforts but this pursuit is one of the most worthy pursuits you may strive for because no man can be free until they have severed all of these ties that bind them to their position. Then they may move freely in spirit, unencumbered by these connections to a place or time or person.

Thank you for the opportunity to have a few words with you about such an important topic. In the very near future, this forgiveness muscle will need a great amount of exercise as more and more will be presented which will require forgiveness in order to move past, move beyond and grow away from. So let's make it so, let's be the age of forgiveness where generosity rules and every man is predisposed to be so generous as to be eager if not willing to forgive their neighbor. Thank you and I now turn over the floor to another, farewell.

Preamble: [Henry] Greetings to you this evening and those who are here on the voice line conference call Monjoronson.com; those who are visiting here through streaming audio, a good evening to all of you. This evening I am going to continue in the vein of forgiveness. Forgiveness is a tremendous tool in the operating of the spiritual circuits of life. The spirit and spiritual life of a human is moving down a stream and this stream has trees falling across so that you are not able to pass. Forgiveness removes these trees out of the pathway and opens up the river to continually move forward in spirit.

In my personal life I think one of the greatest moments of making a tremendous difference in my awareness towards my life and people I dealt with and things that I held on to and identified with was when I was able to forgive and let go in forgiveness, let go of the anticipation, the assumption, the expectation, to let go of the area of defeat, to let go of lost time; that in the spiritual moment there is a tremendous clarity that comes about because you are unencumbered by the weight which pull us down and want to sink us in this river of life when we want to float, move with the water.

So there isn't a tremendous amount of spiritual insight that I can personally add to this valuable act in which we encounter our true selves so I am going to prepare the way for someone greater than me to speak.

Thought Adjuster: [Henry] I thank you for this opportunity which is made ready and available for me to speak and share a few thoughts this evening on this idea of forgiveness. It is certainly true that the Father has already forgiven your misdeeds, your shortcomings, your mistakes, your lack of recognition and attention to love. In the Father's greatness, there is a character trait which precedes all actions of the Father in relation to the time and space creature which house the fragile Fragments of the Father. Even the presence of the Father is preceded in forgiveness. The Father is able to completely accept the subject of His indwelling. No matter who that person is and what that person has done, the Father in His infinite greatness precedes in forgiveness and embraces a stance of readiness and love for this soul He indwells.

Partly it is to show us that forgiveness takes on a humble stance, a stance of acknowledgement, a stance of love and a stance of trust that we would be willing to forgive another of their humanness, their shortcoming or our own shortcomings as humans are concerned and to move forward in greater working relationship with each other with an element of confidence and trust and renewed interest. Forgiveness is a conscious act, it removes all doubt from a believers mind that in being able to forgive ones own self, ones own humanness, one can the further begin to grasp the concept of sonship on a greater level, that you truly are God's children, His sons and his daughters.

As a loving Father forgives the deeds and the relationship of the children, so too do we learn in this trust of inner love and inner faith. We begin to see a greater need to expand in our awareness of what spirit has in store for us as our part and bounty in spiritual life. We free the way for ourself to enjoy a greater contact with spirit because it is not interrupted by the ill feelings which one either harbors for oneself of towards another. Forgiveness is the ability to find the commonness of God within the soul of each man and woman and that acknowledgement to concede to their humanness. It is not necessary to ask that they be forgiven but that you yourself, in your dealings, forgive people for the shortcomings you've experienced dealing with them.

It is a conscious letting go, not getting attached to these feelings. Forgiveness prepares man for a greater stake in the greater spiritual potential which is manifesting within mankind at this time. Elements of faith and trust appear with a greater and stronger recognition which comes with the understanding of truth and goodness, of being able to distinguish between a person and their actions because truly all are worthy, are worthy of the greatness which spirit holds in trust for them.

It is a long journey for some people to come to the understanding that this greater trust and faith cannot be held while you are holding on to the un-forgiveness which lies within your heart which you think you deserve, which you have rationalized that you own, that for whatever reason you may have a right to have a grudge or have an attitude about the way that your brothers or sisters may treat you. But this certainly is of an ego nature and not from a spiritual quality can you find a greater understanding by holding and standing to this distrust within yourself, this doubt, this fear, this need to get even or to uphold the pattern of behavior which has been handed down and taught to you; to find the non-sacredness of its outer surface and as you handle it begin to sense how even the feel of it is not very comfortable.

Spiritual insight and spiritual qualities are quite comfortable to hold. They almost melt to your touch. They satisfy as you hold them and you obtain through their understanding and nourishment a type of spiritual clarity and understanding which comes from the ability to put the animal constraints beside yourself and to grow more one with the spirit and all that spirit has to offer. I would have to say that in the element of forgiveness, one of the most important things many people have to confront is forgiveness within their own selves; to be able to accept themselves for what they are and what they have become and to begin to grow into who you really are through an understanding of this forgiveness; what it is about yourself that you need to let go of to [be] forgiven.

You may be reaching too far, you may be trying too hard, you may be missing the area you are seeking to find. The ability to be able to change demands a certain sense of personal forgiveness to be able to move forward with a new idea, a new mind, a consciousness ready to accept its spiritual destiny and its spiritual inheritance. Forgiveness does not necessarily make the task any less of a nuisance yet forgiveness gives you a greater understanding to accept the nature of the tedious tasks at hand for certainly in the dealing on a brotherhood level, on a spiritual level of association with your fellow men, this certainly will become a tremendously tedious, at times, undertaking.

One must have a greater foresight, an understanding of what is being achieved and what is being qualified. Forgiveness is one of the first acts of qualifying yourself that you are ready to truly begin this tremendous journey inward, this soul searching, this heart and gut rendering understanding in spiritual consciousness of ones place within the greater chain of love and responsibility in helping understand the great gift which has been given man and how this gift is unwrapped and used in the conscious daily life and growth of men and women on your world today.

For how are nations to move beyond the racial, political and national boundaries of forgiveness if individuals are not willing to move forward and teach the group about forgiveness? It is truly one of the great obstacles confronting your young race. As you contemplate the areas of understanding and action may you truly grow in a greater understanding of the true light which lights your world and the heart and soul of each of you. Thank you for this opportunity to share within the nature of spirit and the outworking of spiritual consciousness within your human minds. I thank you for allowing me this time. Good night.

Michael: [Mark] Greetings my dear ones, I am Michael here to share in this thought pattern with you about forgiveness. I hope that you know relatively soon in your mortal career that you have been forgiven from me and your Father above. We certainly have already extended you this grace and have no other ideas about you having fallen short or somehow become deserving of harsh consideration. We only know how to love you and loving you of course enables us to forgive you. If you will follow our lead and love and therefore forgive all those who are in your circle of awareness, then you will be doing that which I would do for them. I would be grateful for you to demonstrate that you have command of what you think I would do to them and for them. I would love them unconditionally and I would have no need to provide great amounts of forgiveness because I would be aware that they are not in need of it. It is not required; nevertheless it is always there as one more form of nourishment, one more avenue of comfort that I may provide and it is my pleasure to do so.

Many times I observe that you are the hardest on yourselves and this saddens me because I am unable to give to you that which you refuse to accept and that which you would not give to yourself. In order to even have the capacity to receive forgiveness you must act in love towards yourselves and create this attitude of generosity towards yourselves and when you have been successful in being gentle with yourselves you are in a position to accept the forgiveness of others even if, I may observe, it was never required or necessary.

But you may have thought it was, it may have been a real issue for you and so join me as we move beyond this stage of being stuck, thinking we need forgiveness or finding it impossible to give it. Let us work together to be so generous with our love that forgiveness is merely a manifestation of this generosity and of this love. It is not hard when you come at it from that angle. It is a characteristic, a trait of love to be generous and ever willing to forgive as part of the demonstration of the profound love that is. And so it will be in your lives, you may become this profound demonstration of the pervasive powers of love. They will increase your tolerance, they will redouble your desire to be of service even if this service is to the self.

One of the greatest acts acts of service you could offer is this willingness to forgive and to comfort those who feel they need this forgiveness by so freely bestowing it thereby removing this obstacle from their experience or your own. The Father loves you so much that His whole premise of your existence is conditioned by this 'for-giveness' and yet there is still this tendency to feel as though you need it and that you do not have it, that it is somehow lacking. It is not lacking when emanating from the Father but there very well may be a disconnect in your capacity to embrace this forgiveness. This too shall grow and increase until you are able to freely accept and freely give this attribute of love.


My peace I leave with you, my love surrounds you, my forgiveness if yours before you ask as a condition of my love for you. Make it so in your lives for yourself and for those around you. Let your peace be a gift from you, let your love manifest in all these ways including forgiveness and let this be your gift of grace as I would offer this gift, so shall you. Take my love with you throughout your days ahead and never hesitate to call on me for reconfirmation of this truth. I will generously offer that as well. Be at peace and farewell.