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Question #1: Judging by some transcripts, at some point the receiver starts to interject their own [[thinking]] [[process]] into the [[communicated]] messages. We aren't sure at what point contact stops and human involvement begins. Can you tell us something about what is happening here?
 
Question #1: Judging by some transcripts, at some point the receiver starts to interject their own [[thinking]] [[process]] into the [[communicated]] messages. We aren't sure at what point contact stops and human involvement begins. Can you tell us something about what is happening here?
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Monjoronson: No, not really. I can say that the effort to make contact is an effort that is double ended as the [[human]] [[transmitter]] attempts to [[perceive]] the urging of [[spirit]] within their mind [[capacity]] to perceive in [[symbol]]. It is unfortunate that you would like something greater, but something greater is not possible at this time. When it will become possible [to have almost the [[universal]] ability to hear,  that] is when no more transmitters are needed and that each one can perceive the inclinations of spirit for themselves. This is what it [[[T/R]]’ing] is–  an inclination of spirit based on [[information]] which you already have.
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Monjoronson: No, not really. I can say that the effort to make contact is an effort that is double ended as the [[human]] [[transmitter]] attempts to [[perceive]] the urging of [[spirit]] within their mind [[capacity]] to perceive in [[symbol]]. It is unfortunate that you would like something greater, but something greater is not possible at this time. When it will become possible [to have almost the [[universal]] ability to hear,  that] is when no more transmitters are needed and that each one can perceive the inclinations of spirit for themselves. This is what it [[TR|T/R]]’ing] is–  an inclination of spirit based on [[information]] which you already have.
    
There is a tremendously [[creative]] leeway into the [[thought]] projections of humans and the inclinations of spirit for spirit tremendously reinforces the positive. No matter what it is, at some point the positive will [[transform]] as it needs be into what it is to become. What is important is that there is an effort made on the part of human [[resource]] to contact [[spirit]] in an attempt to [[perceive]] [[information]]. Be not fooled by the [[eloquence]] of [[speech]] or the [[patterns]] of [[words]]. Learn to [[discern]] the spirit behind the words, and in between the words and the [[meanings]] which are not being [[revealed]]. Like the [[parables]] spoken by your Master as He lived on the [[planet]], parables . . . are stories which [[necessarily]] involve multiple capacities for [[understanding]]. The [[language]] of spirit is . . . perceived on multiple levels of [[understanding]] of what the human is able to [[access]] through spirit.
 
There is a tremendously [[creative]] leeway into the [[thought]] projections of humans and the inclinations of spirit for spirit tremendously reinforces the positive. No matter what it is, at some point the positive will [[transform]] as it needs be into what it is to become. What is important is that there is an effort made on the part of human [[resource]] to contact [[spirit]] in an attempt to [[perceive]] [[information]]. Be not fooled by the [[eloquence]] of [[speech]] or the [[patterns]] of [[words]]. Learn to [[discern]] the spirit behind the words, and in between the words and the [[meanings]] which are not being [[revealed]]. Like the [[parables]] spoken by your Master as He lived on the [[planet]], parables . . . are stories which [[necessarily]] involve multiple capacities for [[understanding]]. The [[language]] of spirit is . . . perceived on multiple levels of [[understanding]] of what the human is able to [[access]] through spirit.
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Question #3: Could you discuss and give us an idea of the accuracy of transmissions when the mind is not at mischief?
 
Question #3: Could you discuss and give us an idea of the accuracy of transmissions when the mind is not at mischief?
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Monjoronson: Thank you for the question. It is an [[understanding]] that the "[http://books.google.com/books?id=iRJWAAAAMAAJ&q=the+mind+at+mischief&dq=the+mind+at+mischief&ei=_8CRS5fGAarkygSV5ICuCw&cd=1 Mind at Mischief]" was a title of a [[work]] which dealt with the many [[different]] activities that the [[mind]] is involved in. The [[text]] written by [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=William_S._Sadler,_Jr.#Background Dr. Sadler] first mentions a reference to a [[process]], probably the process used to contact Dr. Sadler through a [[liaison]] [[personality]] in which spirit was able to speak by using a [[technique]] of [[God consciousness|Adjuster mindedness]]. Spirit speaking through the human mind is what Dr. Sadler referred to as the “mind at mischief.” Again I am not sure what [[information]] you are trying to gather.
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Monjoronson: Thank you for the question. It is an [[understanding]] that the "[https://books.google.com/books?id=iRJWAAAAMAAJ&q=the+mind+at+mischief&dq=the+mind+at+mischief&ei=_8CRS5fGAarkygSV5ICuCw&cd=1 Mind at Mischief]" was a title of a [[work]] which dealt with the many [[different]] activities that the [[mind]] is involved in. The [[text]] written by [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=William_S._Sadler,_Jr.#Background Dr. Sadler] first mentions a reference to a [[process]], probably the process used to contact Dr. Sadler through a [[liaison]] [[personality]] in which spirit was able to speak by using a [[technique]] of [[God consciousness|Adjuster mindedness]]. Spirit speaking through the human mind is what Dr. Sadler referred to as the “mind at mischief.” Again I am not sure what [[information]] you are trying to gather.
    
Again, the [[Urantia Papers]] did not use a human [[TR|ransmission]] [[technique]]. It used an intrusion of spirit through [[human]] [[consciousness]] by [[agreement]] with the Adjuster mindedness within the [[individual]] who was used by spirit to speak through. Again, this was [[necessary]] to produce the [[quality]] of [[text]] which exists as the [[Urantia Papers]]. I would say at best, in terms of the transmission of [[truth]], that the majority of what is transmitted contains truth. There is not much misinformation being [[transmitted]]. When humans attempt to subject spirit to a more specific [[time]] and [[space]] related [[event]], there may be difficulty in a human perceiving that these events happened when they happen but as human consciousness is, humans try to define things which are undefinable. This is the [[quality]] of [[mind]] on the human level.
 
Again, the [[Urantia Papers]] did not use a human [[TR|ransmission]] [[technique]]. It used an intrusion of spirit through [[human]] [[consciousness]] by [[agreement]] with the Adjuster mindedness within the [[individual]] who was used by spirit to speak through. Again, this was [[necessary]] to produce the [[quality]] of [[text]] which exists as the [[Urantia Papers]]. I would say at best, in terms of the transmission of [[truth]], that the majority of what is transmitted contains truth. There is not much misinformation being [[transmitted]]. When humans attempt to subject spirit to a more specific [[time]] and [[space]] related [[event]], there may be difficulty in a human perceiving that these events happened when they happen but as human consciousness is, humans try to define things which are undefinable. This is the [[quality]] of [[mind]] on the human level.
    
The [[transmission]] [[process]] is not [[intended]] to be 100% accurate from either side. Again, what is important is that humans attempt to reach out and [[discern]] the [[quality]] of [[spirit]], the quality within spirit mind and to discern through spirit what spirit dictates to humans. These are much like the early telephone, tin cans with metal wires strung between them, crude, yet able to discern. This is quite similar to the [[T/R]] [[process]] which utilizes [[faith]] and [[trust]] as the [[connection]] and condition to receive [[information]]. Then again, if you are not getting the information you need through a T/R, well then it is [[necessary]] for you to contact spirit yourself and get the information first hand. That way it will not be necessary to [[criticize]] a process which is at best tremendously [[inspiring]], [[faith]] filled and [[trust]]ing. Again, thanks for this question.
 
The [[transmission]] [[process]] is not [[intended]] to be 100% accurate from either side. Again, what is important is that humans attempt to reach out and [[discern]] the [[quality]] of [[spirit]], the quality within spirit mind and to discern through spirit what spirit dictates to humans. These are much like the early telephone, tin cans with metal wires strung between them, crude, yet able to discern. This is quite similar to the [[T/R]] [[process]] which utilizes [[faith]] and [[trust]] as the [[connection]] and condition to receive [[information]]. Then again, if you are not getting the information you need through a T/R, well then it is [[necessary]] for you to contact spirit yourself and get the information first hand. That way it will not be necessary to [[criticize]] a process which is at best tremendously [[inspiring]], [[faith]] filled and [[trust]]ing. Again, thanks for this question.
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===='''''[[Thought Adjusters]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Thought Adjusters]]'''''====
 
*Irrevocable Thought Adjuster Decisions
 
*Irrevocable Thought Adjuster Decisions
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The [[discernment]] of a [[Thought Adjuster]] is a [[purely]] [[personal]] [[activity]] based on some level within the pre-personal aspects of the [[First Source and Center]] not necessarily involving the [[Trinity]] yet being a part of the primal [[deity]] [[essence]] of [[the Father]]. These are pure unadulterated substance aspects of the Father [[designed]] to [[work]] within the human [[consciousness]] to bring the human to an integrated and [[coordinated]] [[personal]] and social [[consciousness]] of [[spirituality]]. [Thought Adjusters help make conscious the] . . . personal [[meaning]] and [[purpose]] to ones life by revealing the greater [meanings of the] social service activities of the brotherhood of man on the planet.  They make available the [[necessary]] [[relationship]] between [[God]] and [[man]] within the human [[mind]]. This we know through [[observing]] [[human]] [[activity]], what humans have [[voiced]] and what humans show and don't show in their [[behavior]]. Again, thank you for these questions.
 
The [[discernment]] of a [[Thought Adjuster]] is a [[purely]] [[personal]] [[activity]] based on some level within the pre-personal aspects of the [[First Source and Center]] not necessarily involving the [[Trinity]] yet being a part of the primal [[deity]] [[essence]] of [[the Father]]. These are pure unadulterated substance aspects of the Father [[designed]] to [[work]] within the human [[consciousness]] to bring the human to an integrated and [[coordinated]] [[personal]] and social [[consciousness]] of [[spirituality]]. [Thought Adjusters help make conscious the] . . . personal [[meaning]] and [[purpose]] to ones life by revealing the greater [meanings of the] social service activities of the brotherhood of man on the planet.  They make available the [[necessary]] [[relationship]] between [[God]] and [[man]] within the human [[mind]]. This we know through [[observing]] [[human]] [[activity]], what humans have [[voiced]] and what humans show and don't show in their [[behavior]]. Again, thank you for these questions.
===='''''[[Fusion]]'''', '''''[[Urantia Book]]''''''====
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===='''''[[Fusion]]''''', '''''[[Urantia Book]]'''''====
 
*[[Education]] for [[Spiritual]] [[Motivation]]
 
*[[Education]] for [[Spiritual]] [[Motivation]]
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Not to say that [the [[Urantia Book]] or improved self-[[transformation]]s] are not going on already on the planet, but such is not going on with tremendous [[frequency]] at this time . . . to catch the [[attention]] of the majority of people. Yet what you ask, certainly is worth exploring within your own life and consciousness of how you can live these [[truths]] and bring them to a greater [[reality]] within your life. This is where education begins, and when humans begin to [[translate]], those [[events]] will [[necessarily]] begin to [[inspire]] others to do the same. Again, thank you for this concern.
 
Not to say that [the [[Urantia Book]] or improved self-[[transformation]]s] are not going on already on the planet, but such is not going on with tremendous [[frequency]] at this time . . . to catch the [[attention]] of the majority of people. Yet what you ask, certainly is worth exploring within your own life and consciousness of how you can live these [[truths]] and bring them to a greater [[reality]] within your life. This is where education begins, and when humans begin to [[translate]], those [[events]] will [[necessarily]] begin to [[inspire]] others to do the same. Again, thank you for this concern.
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===='''''[[Worship]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Worship]]'''''====
 
Question #7: Your advice is sought about whether or not it should be taught that [[the Father]] alone is [[worship]]ed or may we include [[God the Supreme]] either as worship or [[adoration]]? They ask for your [[guidance]] and appreciate your help on that.
 
Question #7: Your advice is sought about whether or not it should be taught that [[the Father]] alone is [[worship]]ed or may we include [[God the Supreme]] either as worship or [[adoration]]? They ask for your [[guidance]] and appreciate your help on that.
    
Monjoronson: [[Worship]] is reserved for [[Paradise]] [[Deity]]. All Paradise Deity comes from [[the Father]]. The attenuation of the [[Supreme]] comes from the Father. All [[worship]] goes to one [[source]], the [[First Source]]. All other sources are characteristics or aspects of the Father, removed yet still connected in some way in [[relationship]] to the [[presence]] of the First Source. As far as [[humans]] are concerned there is only one [[God]]. It is only [[necessary]] to [[worship]] the one [[God]]. Thank you for this question.
 
Monjoronson: [[Worship]] is reserved for [[Paradise]] [[Deity]]. All Paradise Deity comes from [[the Father]]. The attenuation of the [[Supreme]] comes from the Father. All [[worship]] goes to one [[source]], the [[First Source]]. All other sources are characteristics or aspects of the Father, removed yet still connected in some way in [[relationship]] to the [[presence]] of the First Source. As far as [[humans]] are concerned there is only one [[God]]. It is only [[necessary]] to [[worship]] the one [[God]]. Thank you for this question.
===='''''[[Preparation]]'''', '''''[[UFO]]''''', '''''[[Intervention]]'''''====
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===='''''[[Preparation]]''''', '''''[[UFO]]''''', '''''[[Intervention]]'''''====
 
*Preparing the Mortal [[Audience]] for a [[Spiritual]] [[Event]]
 
*Preparing the Mortal [[Audience]] for a [[Spiritual]] [[Event]]
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Question #8: What comments can you make on the following suggestion: Perhaps a "visual" [[celestial]] visitation or even/and some form of verifiable [[UFO|extra-terrestrial]] contact maybe would shake up the [[status quo]] and still would not qualify as "interference" on our world. Perhaps there could be some helpful [[political]] and [[religious]] convulsions that would precipitate [[change]] for the better.
 
Question #8: What comments can you make on the following suggestion: Perhaps a "visual" [[celestial]] visitation or even/and some form of verifiable [[UFO|extra-terrestrial]] contact maybe would shake up the [[status quo]] and still would not qualify as "interference" on our world. Perhaps there could be some helpful [[political]] and [[religious]] convulsions that would precipitate [[change]] for the better.
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Monjoronson: Most certainly. There is a [[complex]] within human [[psychological]] [[consciousness]] [something] called the [[messiah complex]]. The messiah complex deals with the [[concept]] that someone or something from the outside will come to the [[planet]] and make it all okay so that everybody will believe and be part of this great and [[wonderful]] [[thing]]. It stems from the Jewish concept of the [[messiah]] as it was bastardized through the ages down from [[Abraham]] to [[David]] to the times within [[[Christ]]'s] [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_120 appearance] on the [[planet]]. The [[actuality]] of [[God]] becoming man and walking among you is [[proof]] and [[evidence]] first, that God does exist, second, that God does care and third, that God [[personally]] in the [[representation]] of His Son came as one of you to show you how to live.
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Monjoronson: Most certainly. There is a [[complex]] within human [[psychological]] [[consciousness]] [something] called the [[messiah complex]]. The messiah complex deals with the [[concept]] that someone or something from the outside will come to the [[planet]] and make it all okay so that everybody will believe and be part of this great and [[wonderful]] [[thing]]. It stems from the Jewish concept of the [[messiah]] as it was bastardized through the ages down from [[Abraham]] to [[David]] to the times within [[Christ]]'s [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_120 appearance] on the [[planet]]. The [[actuality]] of [[God]] becoming man and walking among you is [[proof]] and [[evidence]] first, that God does exist, second, that God does care and third, that God [[personally]] in the [[representation]] of His Son came as one of you to show you how to live.
    
Quite frankly, until your planet learns the few basic things that were shown 2,000 years ago, spirit doesn't deem it [[necessary]] to interfere. Again, even the [[Urantia Book]] in its unadulterated [[nature]] stands as testament as dust collectors on peoples shelves because obviously the ten's and hundred’s of thousands of [[books]] published have not yet garnered a greater readership capacity.  
 
Quite frankly, until your planet learns the few basic things that were shown 2,000 years ago, spirit doesn't deem it [[necessary]] to interfere. Again, even the [[Urantia Book]] in its unadulterated [[nature]] stands as testament as dust collectors on peoples shelves because obviously the ten's and hundred’s of thousands of [[books]] published have not yet garnered a greater readership capacity.  
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