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*(Inner spiritual presence)

*(Inner spiritual presence)

   

   

Our [[presence]] within you is very [[subtle]].  As we’ve said before, it’s more like the background or surround of your [[consciousness]].  I’m [[focusing]] the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_9#9:4._THE_ABSOLUTE_MIND Cosmic Mind] down to make it useful for you.  You [[literally]] have my [[Mind]]/[[Adjutant Mind Spirits|Spirit Adjutant]] kind of mind, distinct from any other order of [[personal]] [[being]], like an [[angel]].  I’m part of your mentality and your [[consciousness]] is more than just your [[brain]] and [[nervous system]] [[activity]].  It’s partly me.  I’m always in here with you, if you will, helping you, augmenting your [[intuition]], your [[courage]], your [[curiosity]], your [[feelings]] of companionship and gregariousness, the summation of these in your [[wisdom]]; and finally, boosting your distinct [[human]] [[ability]] to feel [[thankful]] and [[worshipful]] to [[God]] for your life.

Our [[presence]] within you is very [[subtle]].  As we’ve said before, it’s more like the background or surround of your [[consciousness]].  I’m [[focusing]] the [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_9#9:4._THE_ABSOLUTE_MIND Cosmic Mind] down to make it useful for you.  You [[literally]] have my [[Mind]]/[[Adjutant Mind Spirits|Spirit Adjutant]] kind of mind, distinct from any other order of [[personal]] [[being]], like an [[angel]].  I’m part of your mentality and your [[consciousness]] is more than just your [[brain]] and [[nervous system]] [[activity]].  It’s partly me.  I’m always in here with you, if you will, helping you, augmenting your [[intuition]], your [[courage]], your [[curiosity]], your [[feelings]] of companionship and gregariousness, the summation of these in your [[wisdom]]; and finally, boosting your distinct [[human]] [[ability]] to feel [[thankful]] and [[worshipful]] to [[God]] for your life.

   

   

We so prize your [[free will]] and [[dignity]], my [[children]], we want to [[encourage]] you to get a [[feeling]] for who you are as you make your [[choices]] minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day, as you direct yourself into your life.  We [[value]] your [[free will]] so greatly, we’re not intrusive.  By your very [[ability]] to ignore us, it’s your [[choice]] as to whether or not to acknowledge us--acknowledge me as part of your mentality.  I am always here.  My [[Holy Spirit]] is always part of you, and you are very definitely part of me.   

We so prize your [[free will]] and [[dignity]], my [[children]], we want to [[encourage]] you to get a [[feeling]] for who you are as you make your [[choices]] minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day, as you direct yourself into your life.  We [[value]] your [[free will]] so greatly, we’re not intrusive.  By your very [[ability]] to ignore us, it’s your [[choice]] as to whether or not to acknowledge us--acknowledge me as part of your mentality.  I am always here.  My [[Holy Spirit]] is always part of you, and you are very definitely part of me.   

This [[orientation]] of Michael’s [[Spirit of Truth]] opens you up to contact and relate with your [[Thought Adjuster]].  As you get a greater sense of [[time]] becoming ever more still, you can feel yourself expanding.  Your [[soul]] comes forth and your [[time]] [[units]] of [[maturity]] begin to [[develop]].  You get closer and closer to [[experiencing]] a real sense of what the [[transcendent]] [[dimensions]] of time are--that time is not only passing, but that it also holds [[everything]].  And as you gain this greater sense of [[continuity]], my [[children]], you get some detachment from your own [[immediate]] [[thoughts]].  You don’t identify so strictly with only what you are [[thinking]] at the [[moment]].  Now you can begin to notice as you deepen into your [[meditation]], how your thoughts begin to [[change]], how your thoughts are becoming adjusted.  This is the [[presence]] of [[God]] in your [[mind]], and there is no [[limit]] to this expansion as there is no limit to Him.

This [[orientation]] of Michael’s [[Spirit of Truth]] opens you up to contact and relate with your [[Thought Adjuster]].  As you get a greater sense of [[time]] becoming ever more still, you can feel yourself expanding.  Your [[soul]] comes forth and your [[time]] [[units]] of [[maturity]] begin to [[develop]].  You get closer and closer to [[experiencing]] a real sense of what the [[transcendent]] [[dimensions]] of time are--that time is not only passing, but that it also holds [[everything]].  And as you gain this greater sense of [[continuity]], my [[children]], you get some detachment from your own [[immediate]] [[thoughts]].  You don’t identify so strictly with only what you are [[thinking]] at the [[moment]].  Now you can begin to notice as you deepen into your [[meditation]], how your thoughts begin to [[change]], how your thoughts are becoming adjusted.  This is the [[presence]] of [[God]] in your [[mind]], and there is no [[limit]] to this expansion as there is no limit to Him.

   

   

If you are open to it, if you are willing to [[listen]] and hear within you, and then [[value]] and heed what comes through, this [[presence]] of [[God]] can [[literally]] give you [[ideas]], can even suggest the next step to take.  You’ve all known [[moments]] of this, when, as you say, an [[idea]] came as a [http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/70700.html bolt from the blue], so startling and [[surprising]], yet so [[welcome]] too as it [[totally]] [[comprehended]] the whole complicated situation.

If you are open to it, if you are willing to [[listen]] and hear within you, and then [[value]] and heed what comes through, this [[presence]] of [[God]] can [[literally]] give you [[ideas]], can even suggest the next step to take.  You’ve all known [[moments]] of this, when, as you say, an [[idea]] came as a [https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/70700.html bolt from the blue], so startling and [[surprising]], yet so [[welcome]] too as it [[totally]] [[comprehended]] the whole complicated situation.

   

   

True enough, you are a [[creative]] [[spiritual]] [[being]] yourself.  You originate most of the [[thoughts]] that go through your [[mind]].  It’s also true that in your highest mind, the most [[spiritually]] [[creative]] part of your [[mind]], is exactly where you link up with us.  So you can never tell for sure, at first, whether a particular marvelous [[idea]] came from your [[Thought Adjuster]] or from your own [[creative]] [[personality]].  For all [[practical]] [[purposes]] it doesn’t matter.  It’s your [[personal]] [[quality]] of [[recognition]]--of the [[value]] of the [[wonderful]] [[idea]], its practical usefulness--that is just what you need.  The [[recognition]] is what’s important.  As [[Michael]] taught, as [[Jesus]], you need this [[ability]] to recognize truth irrespective of its [[origin]].  This is your [[orientation]].  This is how you [[grow]].

True enough, you are a [[creative]] [[spiritual]] [[being]] yourself.  You originate most of the [[thoughts]] that go through your [[mind]].  It’s also true that in your highest mind, the most [[spiritually]] [[creative]] part of your [[mind]], is exactly where you link up with us.  So you can never tell for sure, at first, whether a particular marvelous [[idea]] came from your [[Thought Adjuster]] or from your own [[creative]] [[personality]].  For all [[practical]] [[purposes]] it doesn’t matter.  It’s your [[personal]] [[quality]] of [[recognition]]--of the [[value]] of the [[wonderful]] [[idea]], its practical usefulness--that is just what you need.  The [[recognition]] is what’s important.  As [[Michael]] taught, as [[Jesus]], you need this [[ability]] to recognize truth irrespective of its [[origin]].  This is your [[orientation]].  This is how you [[grow]].

*(Physical stretching)

*(Physical stretching)

   

   

One further [[thing]] I wanted to mention tonight, we’ve talked about only briefly before, and that is the notion of stretching not only [[mentally]] but [[physically]] too.  Think of physical stretching as a [[necessary]] [[activity]] simply because your [[body]], all by itself through your [[activity]] and even more as you get older; your body left alone to its own devices will slowly lose its [[freedom]] of [[motion]].  Muscles and ligaments shorten; all the joints all over your [[body]] get little deposits of [http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium calcium] around them.  So it’s good to stretch and expand whatever range of [[motion]] you find yourself stuck with, at any [[age]].

One further [[thing]] I wanted to mention tonight, we’ve talked about only briefly before, and that is the notion of stretching not only [[mentally]] but [[physically]] too.  Think of physical stretching as a [[necessary]] [[activity]] simply because your [[body]], all by itself through your [[activity]] and even more as you get older; your body left alone to its own devices will slowly lose its [[freedom]] of [[motion]].  Muscles and ligaments shorten; all the joints all over your [[body]] get little deposits of [https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium calcium] around them.  So it’s good to stretch and expand whatever range of [[motion]] you find yourself stuck with, at any [[age]].

   

   

You notice that as you reach the [[limits]] to which you are used, you encounter [[pain]].  At first it’s just a slight ache, and then a heavier one.  If you impatiently rush into the area with some notion in your [[mind]] of how much you are going to stretch that leg--or whatever, today--you will notice little tingly pricks of muscle tearing: that’s too much.  [[Physical]] [[limits]] require [[patience]] and [[pure]] [[attention]] to really get down deep into that ache and let those muscles [[relax]] and lengthen, to feel those joints moving more than they have lately.   

You notice that as you reach the [[limits]] to which you are used, you encounter [[pain]].  At first it’s just a slight ache, and then a heavier one.  If you impatiently rush into the area with some notion in your [[mind]] of how much you are going to stretch that leg--or whatever, today--you will notice little tingly pricks of muscle tearing: that’s too much.  [[Physical]] [[limits]] require [[patience]] and [[pure]] [[attention]] to really get down deep into that ache and let those muscles [[relax]] and lengthen, to feel those joints moving more than they have lately.   

*(Experiencing Mother Spirit: service)

*(Experiencing Mother Spirit: service)

   

   

NEBADONIA:  Yes, my son, that is true--if you [[realize]] that what we are talking about is [[pure]] [[spirit]].  Similarly to how I [[focus]] the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_16#16:6._THE_COSMIC_MIND Cosmic Mind] of the [[Infinite Spirit]] down for each [[individual]] [[personal]] [[being]] within me according to their [[ability]] to receive this, just so, my son, what you will [[experience]] is how I present myself to you at that particular [[moment]], that [[unique]] moment of time and situation.  And so I am able to [[appear]] to each of my [[children]] of [[different]] orders of personal [[beings]], and at each [[stage]] of their [[spiritual]] [[growth]], so uniquely.  Insofar as you “see”--that is, [[feel]]/[[realize]]/[[experience]] my [[Holy Spirit]], yes, you are experiencing through me the [[creative]] [[quality]] of the [[Infinite Spirit]].  Keep in [[mind]] all along that we are two very [[discrete]] [[beings]].  I am the daughter of the [[Infinite Spirit]], and the [[parent]] is [[different]] from the child.  Now does this qualification--([[Mother Spirit]] [[chuckles]])--give you some notion of what you would [[experience]] if, as you say, you could see me?

NEBADONIA:  Yes, my son, that is true--if you [[realize]] that what we are talking about is [[pure]] [[spirit]].  Similarly to how I [[focus]] the [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_16#16:6._THE_COSMIC_MIND Cosmic Mind] of the [[Infinite Spirit]] down for each [[individual]] [[personal]] [[being]] within me according to their [[ability]] to receive this, just so, my son, what you will [[experience]] is how I present myself to you at that particular [[moment]], that [[unique]] moment of time and situation.  And so I am able to [[appear]] to each of my [[children]] of [[different]] orders of personal [[beings]], and at each [[stage]] of their [[spiritual]] [[growth]], so uniquely.  Insofar as you “see”--that is, [[feel]]/[[realize]]/[[experience]] my [[Holy Spirit]], yes, you are experiencing through me the [[creative]] [[quality]] of the [[Infinite Spirit]].  Keep in [[mind]] all along that we are two very [[discrete]] [[beings]].  I am the daughter of the [[Infinite Spirit]], and the [[parent]] is [[different]] from the child.  Now does this qualification--([[Mother Spirit]] [[chuckles]])--give you some notion of what you would [[experience]] if, as you say, you could see me?

   

   

Student:  Oh!--yes it does, because in my [[stillness]] and [[meditation]] I look forward to [[experiencing]] the [[individual]] [[spirit]] [[personalities]] of [[Michael]] and you, [[Nebadonia]], as well as the presence of [[God the Father]].  It really opens up doors and makes me [[realize]] that [[personality]] is such an amazing [[thing]].  The gift of [[personality]], that [[the Father]] has given us, is just awesome to me; and that, in some way, opens up doors I can’t even [[explain]].  (laughter)

Student:  Oh!--yes it does, because in my [[stillness]] and [[meditation]] I look forward to [[experiencing]] the [[individual]] [[spirit]] [[personalities]] of [[Michael]] and you, [[Nebadonia]], as well as the presence of [[God the Father]].  It really opens up doors and makes me [[realize]] that [[personality]] is such an amazing [[thing]].  The gift of [[personality]], that [[the Father]] has given us, is just awesome to me; and that, in some way, opens up doors I can’t even [[explain]].  (laughter)

NEBADONIA:  It’s a two-fold [[process]], and a [[balance]] we once referred to as: deep calls to deep, and [[responds]].  As you become deeper inside yourself with these [[spiritual]] [[experiences]] you mentioned, it might seem strange but these [[actually]] allow you to let go of yourself with a [[growing]] and genuine self-[[confidence]].  It’s this inner confidence which allows you to open yourself outwardly.  It comes out as a greater [[tenacity]] and fearlessness to let other folks come in to you where you can more clearly register them.  For each [[person]] you meet is [[unique]] as well, and you have to grow your [[ability]] to fearlessly [[embrace]] so much living [[character]].  

NEBADONIA:  It’s a two-fold [[process]], and a [[balance]] we once referred to as: deep calls to deep, and [[responds]].  As you become deeper inside yourself with these [[spiritual]] [[experiences]] you mentioned, it might seem strange but these [[actually]] allow you to let go of yourself with a [[growing]] and genuine self-[[confidence]].  It’s this inner confidence which allows you to open yourself outwardly.  It comes out as a greater [[tenacity]] and fearlessness to let other folks come in to you where you can more clearly register them.  For each [[person]] you meet is [[unique]] as well, and you have to grow your [[ability]] to fearlessly [[embrace]] so much living [[character]].  

   

   

This [[ability]] is the [[opposite]] of [[prejudice]] wherein an inner insecurity is the cause of the need to pre-judge and [[type]] others along [[stereotypical]] lines that [[mask]] their [[individual]] [[uniqueness]].  A prejudiced person sees only [[types]]--[[race]], or [[sex]], or [[ethnicity]]--not [[individuals]].  But to see and [[accept]] another as the living, changing, bottomless [[infinity]] they actually are, is [[being]] of [[service]], is giving them [[recognition]] and [[response]].  As you grow [[spiritually]] inside, you are creating the tough [[balance]], the [[equanimity]], to meet them as whom and what they are.  As you grow inside so you also grow outwardly in what you are able to [[perceive]] and relate to.  This is your [[character]].  This is your own [[secure]] [[home]] base of [[spirit]] that enables you to let the world in unafraid.  It is its own reward--[[instantaneously]]!--([[Mother Spirit]] [[laughs]]).  [[Being]] of [[service]] is the greatest, fullest life you can live.  More and more people will emerge as [[individuals]] to fill your [[soul]].  

This [[ability]] is the [[opposite]] of [[prejudice]] wherein an inner insecurity is the cause of the need to pre-judge and [[type]] others along [[stereotypical]] lines that [[mask]] their [[individual]] [[uniqueness]].  A prejudiced person sees only [[types]]--[[race]], or [[sex]], or [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype ethnicity]--not [[individuals]].  But to see and [[accept]] another as the living, changing, bottomless [[infinity]] they actually are, is [[being]] of [[service]], is giving them [[recognition]] and [[response]].  As you grow [[spiritually]] inside, you are creating the tough [[balance]], the [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/equanimity equanimity], to meet them as whom and what they are.  As you grow inside so you also grow outwardly in what you are able to [[perceive]] and relate to.  This is your [[character]].  This is your own [[secure]] [[home]] base of [[spirit]] that enables you to let the world in unafraid.  It is its own reward--[[instantaneously]]!--([[Mother Spirit]] [[laughs]]).  [[Being]] of [[service]] is the greatest, fullest life you can live.  More and more people will emerge as [[individuals]] to fill your [[soul]].  

   

   

Deep calls to deep, for they will register your [[response]] too--not always [[consciously]], perhaps, but there is something in them as well--their [[Thought Adjuster]], their portion of my [[spirit]] and my [[being]], which recognizes the [[intrinsic]] [[love]] and [[strength]] you have.  It’s this which enables you to see their [[character]] and [[reflect]] it back to them more fully.  Does this [[sound]] like something interesting?

Deep calls to deep, for they will register your [[response]] too--not always [[consciously]], perhaps, but there is something in them as well--their [[Thought Adjuster]], their portion of my [[spirit]] and my [[being]], which recognizes the [[intrinsic]] [[love]] and [[strength]] you have.  It’s this which enables you to see their [[character]] and [[reflect]] it back to them more fully.  Does this [[sound]] like something interesting?

*(Lucifer’s erroneous ideas and choices)

*(Lucifer’s erroneous ideas and choices)

   

   

NEBADONIA:  Our main feelings about our son were initially ones of surprise and disappointment.  Yet for us it was also an acknowledgment of our Father’s ability to create--truly create unique, free-willed personalities, independent of both Him and us.  Lucifer’s genuinely erroneous ideas came out of his own creativity, and then because of what you would call ego/maniacal reasoning--a kind of stubborn partiality to what he himself was capable of originating--call it pride or arrogance--he seized upon these notions to the exclusion of all the rest of Michael’s, and my, and the Father’s creation.  In human terms it was an infatuation with, and an addiction to, his own ideas of how things should be.  He was always cognizant of Michael’s and my existence, and of our offers of love and assistance to help him gain some humility, some deeper appreciation of the enormity of what he was devaluing, but our offers were spurned with increasing contempt.  He took Michael’s refusal to judge and come up against him as some kind of proof he--Lucifer--was right.  

NEBADONIA:  Our main [[feelings]] about our son were initially ones of [[surprise]] and [[disappointment]].  Yet for us it was also an [[acknowledgment]] of [[our Father]]’s [[ability]] to [[create]]--truly create [[unique]], [[free-will]]ed [[personalities]], [[independent]] of both Him and us.  [[Lucifer]]’s genuinely erroneous [[ideas]] came out of his own [[creativity]], and then because of what you would call [[ego]]/maniacal [[reasoning]]--a kind of stubborn partiality to what he himself was capable of originating--call it [[pride]] or arrogance--he seized upon these notions to the exclusion of all the rest of [[Michael]]’s, and my, and [[the Father]]’s [[creation]].  In [[human]] terms it was an [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infatuation infatuation] with, and an [[addiction]] to, his own [[ideas]] of how things should be.  He was always [[cognizant]] of [[Michael]]’s and my [[existence]], and of our offers of [[love]] and [[assistance]] to help him gain some [[humility]], some deeper [[appreciation]] of the enormity of what he was devaluing, but our offers were spurned with increasing [[contempt]].  He took [[Michael]]’s refusal to [[judge]] and come up against him as some kind of [[proof]] he--[[Lucifer]]--was right.  

   

   

It got the point of his thinking we were some kind of petty tyranny, and that he was ever so courageous himself to break free and lead a rebellion against us.  His flaw was essentially one of irresponsibility insofar as he began to initiate things--changes in your Local System--and then refused to respond to what ensued.  He would not respond to the chaos, the retrogression, and the enormous suffering he himself was initiating.  He began to live more and more in his own mind, especially as things did not pan out as he thought they would.  You can only imagine what it was like for a personality to become so twisted and turned in upon itself like this.  For hundreds of thousand of years he constantly spurned Michael’s offers of mercy simply because they implied genuine rehabilitation--acknowledging, in order to re-embrace, greater spirit.

It got the point of his [[thinking]] we were some kind of petty [[tyranny]], and that he was ever so [[courageous]] himself to break free and lead a [[rebellion]] against us.  His flaw was [[essentially]] one of irresponsibility insofar as he began to [[initiate]] [[things]]--[[changes]] in your [[Local System]]--and then refused to [[respond]] to what ensued.  He would not respond to the [[chaos]], the retrogression, and the enormous [[suffering]] he himself was initiating.  He began to live more and more in his own [[mind]], especially as things did not pan out as he thought they would.  You can only [[imagine]] what it was like for a [[personality]] to become so twisted and turned in upon itself like this.  For hundreds of thousand of years he constantly spurned Michael’s offers of [[mercy]] simply because they implied genuine rehabilitation--[[acknowledging]], in order to re-[[embrace]], greater [[spirit]].

   

   

Student:  At a certain point he must have known he was wrong, and he just couldn’t turn that around?

Student:  At a certain point he must have known he was wrong, and he just couldn’t turn that around?

   

   

NEBADONIA:  No; what I’m saying is that he never accepted that he was wrong.  He stubbornly persisted in “being right”--clinging to a past decision--just as you’ve all experienced with others, perhaps even within yourself at times.  

NEBADONIA:  No; what I’m saying is that he never [[accepted]] that he was wrong.  He stubbornly persisted in “being right”--clinging to a past [[decision]]--just as you’ve all [[experienced]] with others, perhaps even within yourself at times.  

   

   

Student:  But when he was interred, he must have come to realize he no longer had any power.  How could he not, like, deal with that fact?

Student:  But when he was interred, he must have come to realize he no longer had any [[power]].  How could he not, like, deal with that [[fact]]?

   

   

NEBADONIA:  This is what you would call, in a human being, insanity.  It doesn’t make sense.  If he had been capable of reasoning even to that slight degree of accuracy, he wouldn’t have been where he was.  He had lost the ability to let go his own inner machinations to the point where they then had him.  He had lost touch with outer reality and the enormous glory of the Father’s creation, the perception we call the spiritual blessing of humility.  

NEBADONIA:  This is what you would call, in a [[human being]], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insanity insanity].  It doesn’t make sense.  If he had been capable of [[reasoning]] even to that slight [[degree]] of accuracy, he wouldn’t have been where he was.  He had lost the [[ability]] to let go his own inner machinations to the point where they then had him.  He had lost [[touch]] with outer [[reality]] and the enormous [[glory]] of [[the Father]]’s [[creation]], the [[perception]] we call the [[spiritual]] [[blessing]] of [[humility]].  

   

   

Student:  So he no longer exists?

Student:  So he no longer exists?

   

   

NEBADONIA:  Yes, since the adjudication of his rebellion that wiped him out, along with all the other spirits who also refused to acknowledge something greater than themselves.  This is why, in a very real sense, iniquitous, evil beings more or less remove themselves from cosmic reality by their own refusal to acknowledge and appreciate it.  

NEBADONIA:  Yes, since the [[adjudication]] of his [[rebellion]] that wiped him out, along with all the other spirits who also refused to [[acknowledge]] something greater than themselves.  This is why, in a very real sense, [[Iniquity|iniquitous]], [[evil]] beings more or less remove themselves from [[cosmic]] [[reality]] by their own refusal to acknowledge and [[appreciate]] it.  

   

   

As you’ve been informed, neither Michael nor I were required to cause any of our own children to cease to exist, although everything they were and did, everything they directly caused, will always be a part of the Supreme Being, the universal history of time and space events--God’s soul, if you will.  Only in that sense do they live on.  

As you’ve been informed, neither [[Michael]] nor I were required to [[cause]] any of our own [[children]] to cease to exist, although [[everything]] they were and did, everything they directly caused, will always be a part of the [[Supreme Being]], the [[universal]] [[history]] of [[time and space]] [[events]]--[[God]]’s [[soul]], if you will.  Only in that sense do they live on.  

   

   

Student:  It’s so hard to grasp that such a life like that could falter.  It doesn’t make sense.  Like you said, it’s just insane.

Student:  It’s so hard to grasp that such a life like that could falter.  It doesn’t make sense.  Like you said, it’s just insane.

   

   

NEBADONIA:  Yes, this is what I meant when I said it was a demonstration to Michael and me of God’s infinity in creating unique personalities that are truly free--free even from Him and His goodness; free from us.  Lucifer’s experience was, and is, a cosmic possibility.  The things that go awry by personal choice are proof of the free-will-ness of all of God’s children.  Without this ability to avoid even Him, you’d have only a kind of absolute cosmic determinism, an inescapable fatalism.  You would not have discrete personal beings but only little aspects of God running around, doing only His will.  This is not the awesome reality and mystery of personality you noticed--which actually exists.  

NEBADONIA:  Yes, this is what I meant when I said it was a [[demonstration]] to [[Michael]] and me of [[God]]’s [[infinity]] in creating [[unique]] [[personalities]] that are truly [[free]]--free even from Him and His [[goodness]]; free from us.  [[Lucifer]]’s [[experience]] was, and is, a cosmic [[possibility]].  The [[things]] that go awry by [[personal]] [[choice]] are [[proof]] of the [[Free will|free-will]]-ness of all of [[God]]’s [[children]].  Without this [[ability]] to avoid even Him, you’d have only a kind of [[absolute]] cosmic [[determinism]], an inescapable [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatalism fatalism].  You would not have [[discrete]] [[personal]] [[beings]] but only little aspects of God running around, doing only His will.  This is not the awesome [[reality]] and [[mystery]] of [[personality]] you noticed--which actually exists.  

   

   

Student:  Now, with that adjudication, with all the System circuits being open, I do encounter those who are avid and deep readers of the Urantia book who don’t believe that that has happened.  I don’t get into arguments with them, but allow the Spirit of Truth to reveal that.  Is there any guidance you could give me in this realm?

Student:  Now, with that [[adjudication]], with all[[ the System]] [[circuits]] being open, I do encounter those who are avid and deep [[readers]] of the [[Urantia book]] who don’t believe that that has happened.  I don’t get into [[arguments]] with them, but allow the [[Spirit of Truth]] to reveal that.  Is there any [[guidance]] you could give me in this realm?

   

   

NEBDONIA, laughing:  Well, do what we do: tease.  You are wise in following the ways of spirit: you never demand; you playfully suggest.  Plant seeds/concepts.  Keep a sense of humor about it all.  

NEBDONIA, [[laughing]]:  Well, do what we do: tease.  You are [[wise]] in following the ways of [[spirit]]: you never demand; you [[playfully]] suggest.  Plant [[seeds]]/[[concepts]].  Keep a sense of [[humor]] about it all.  

   

   

Listen well to what they say, and follow your own advice by really entertaining--as best you can--what they have to offer.  Have a real exchange; get to know them and their viewpoint.  

[[Listen]] well to what they say, and follow your own advice by really [[entertaining]]--as best you can--what they have to offer.  Have a real exchange; get to know them and their [[viewpoint]].  

   

   

Student:  Well, I thank you for the guidance.  I honor your presence--very much.  

Student:  Well, I thank you for the [[guidance]].  I honor your [[presence]]--very much.  

   

   

NEBADONIA:  You are welcome, my son.  Be in my love.

NEBADONIA:  You are [[welcome]], my son.  Be in my [[love]].

   

   

Student:  I want to thank you, Mother, for pulling all of us forward--pulling me forward out of myself.  And the growth.  

Student:  I want to thank you, Mother, for pulling all of us forward--pulling me forward out of myself.  And the [[growth]].  

   

   

NEBADONIA:  My son, are you having more fun?

NEBADONIA:  My son, are you having more fun?

   

   

Student:  Yes and no--more of yes, though.  Actually--I’m doing very good.

Student:  Yes and no--more of yes, though.  Actually--I’m doing very good.

===='''''[[Play]]'''''====

===='''''[[Play]]'''''====

*(Having fun)  

*(Having fun)  

   

   

NEBADONIA:  We do like to tease you with that because there is a tendency to take Michael and me too seriously.  We do appreciate your love, and your devotion, and your respect.  But also, this thing of fun?--this deep joy of the soul: this too was in God’s imagination.  This too is what He created you to experience.  And so we love to tease you this way because we do--simultaneously/instantaneously--register the pain, the sorrow, the uncertainty, the anguish and loneliness--most human lives will know.  So we have faith in you.  We trust in you, my son, to grow, to expand and see things ever more spiritually inclusive.  And then to feel that freedom!--that joy of freedom.  

NEBADONIA:  We do like to [[tease]] you with that because there is a tendency to take [[Michael]] and me too seriously.  We do [[appreciate]] your [[love]], and your [[devotion]], and your respect.  But also, this [[thing]] of fun?--this deep [[joy]] of the [[soul]]: this too was in [[God]]’s [[imagination]].  This too is what He [[created]] you to [[experience]].  And so we [[love]] to tease you this way because we do--[[simultaneously]]/instantaneously--register the [[pain]], the [[sorrow]], the [[uncertainty]], the anguish and loneliness--most human lives will know.  So we have [[faith]] in you.  We [[trust]] in you, my son, to [[grow]], to expand and see [[things]] ever more [[spiritually]] inclusive.  And then to feel that [[freedom]]!--that [[joy]] of freedom.  

   

   

These realizations set you free.  There will always be another mountain of the world, or mind, or spirit, to climb.  There is always another step to take on your own, but with God’s company too--forever!  There’s also laughter and stopping to look around, all along the way.  You keep climbing higher.  The view keeps getting broader.  Your soul keeps growing.  This is the stuff of it all, the joy God created you to share with Him.  So spread it around, my son.

These [[realizations]] set you free.  There will always be another mountain of the world, or [[mind]], or [[spirit]], to climb.  There is always another step to take on your own, but with [[God]]’s company too--forever!  There’s also [[laughter]] and stopping to look around, all along the way.  You keep climbing higher.  The view keeps getting broader.  Your [[soul]] keeps growing.  This is the stuff of it all, the [[joy]] [[God]] created you to [[share]] with Him.  So spread it around, my son.

   

   

Student:  Thank you, Mother.

Student:  Thank you, Mother.

   

   

NEBADONIA:  You are welcome.  Be in my love.

NEBADONIA:  You are [[welcome]].  Be in my [[love]].

 

===='''''[[Trust]]''''', '''''[[Faith]]'''''====

===='''''[[Trust]]''''', '''''[[Faith]]'''''====

*(Opening with trust and faith)

*(Opening with trust and faith)

   

   

So, my children, tonight I wanted to acknowledge that physical ache you feel when you stretch your bodies, along with that spiritual gap of uncertainty and surprise when you are confronted with something that might go wrong, and requires so much patience and care.  And then your openness that is so necessary for you to stretch your spirits in a genuine adventure--to go into that huge world out there, surround by an even more unfathomable creation of God’s.  It takes a strong spirit to open in trust and faith like this, yet this is what strengthens you.  So be determined to know it all: because you will.  There are a thousand and one schools out there of every art and science you’ve discovered so far; and a million more.  These are to stretch and strengthen your spirit in embracing whatever comes, and not be daunted there is no end to the adventure either in space or time.  

So, my [[children]], tonight I wanted to [[acknowledge]] that [[physical]] ache you feel when you stretch your [[bodies]], along with that [[spiritual]] gap of [[uncertainty]] and [[surprise]] when you are confronted with something that might go wrong, and requires so much [[patience]] and care.  And then your openness that is so [[necessary]] for you to stretch your [[spirits]] in a genuine [[adventure]]--to go into that huge world out there, surround by an even more unfathomable [[creation]] of [[God]]’s.  It takes a strong [[spirit]] to open in [[trust]] and [[faith]] like this, yet this is what [[strength]]ens you.  So be determined to know it all: because you will.  There are a thousand and one schools out there of every [[The Arts|art]] and [[The Sciences|science]] you’ve [[discovered]] so far; and a million more.  These are to stretch and strengthen your [[spirit]] in [[embracing]] whatever comes, and not be daunted there is no end to the [[adventure]] either in [[Spacetime|space or time]].  

   

   

We pointed to the second phase of giving up an unhealthy habit: after it’s gone, what to fill in that space and time?  What do you fill in eternity with?  That could be kind-of scary in prospect; and is, for so many, just contemplating the giving-up part.  And so trust, my children.  Trust God has given you the means as part of you.  You are endowed with spirit.  You are endowed with creativity.  You’re using it all the time.  Together with all that myriad infinity of other personal beings out there, for company, you’re going to have a good time.  This first, human life of your is truly a trial, yet that trial is what points the way for you to grow.  Lean into it.  Welcome the stretch it takes.  Be unafraid of what lets you know you’re stretching, and growing.

We pointed to the second [[phase]] of giving up an unhealthy [[habit]]: after it’s gone, what to fill in that [[space]] and [[time]]?  What do you fill in [[eternity]] with?  That could be kind-of scary in prospect; and is, for so many, just [[contemplating]] the giving-up part.  And so [[trust]], my [[children]].  Trust [[God]] has given you the means as part of you.  You are [[endowed]] with [[spirit]].  You are endowed with [[creativity]].  You’re using it all the [[time]].  [[Together]] with all that myriad [[infinity]] of other [[personal]] [[beings]] out there, for company, you’re going to have a [[good]] time.  This first, [[human]] life of your is truly a [[trial]], yet that trial is what points the way for you to [[grow]].  Lean into it.  [[Welcome]] the stretch it takes.  Be unafraid of what lets you know you’re stretching, and [[growing]].

===Closing===

===Closing===

Be in Michael’s peace and my love.  Good evening.

Be in [[Michael]]’s [[peace]] and my [[love]].  Good evening.

[[Category: The Teaching Mission: Dialogues]]

[[Category: The Teaching Mission: Dialogues]]