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MMc:  I was wondering if there is anything you’d like to speak to us about first?

MMc:  I was wondering if there is anything you’d like to speak to us about first?

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===='''''[[Learning]]'''''====

*Life is all about learning

*Life is all about learning

   

   

MONJORONSON:  You will be looking first at common interest.  When you look at position-taking, then you are going in the wrong direction immediately.  If you look at common interest and common vision, collective vision, those two factors will lead you into the future and you will devise your organizational systems, as you need to.  You, in fact, do not need political parties to elect competent individuals to office.  That is simply an old archaic method devised from arm wrestling, for instance, or from jousting, or from ring-tossing, as has been done in centuries and millennia before.  You see that this is an archaic process of selection.  It is very much like the old “tug-of-war,” where you have an incredibly strong rope with hundreds of people on each side, pulling in opposite directions, pulling in their direction, and so you pull people over to your side.  This is majority-making in its most primitive form, but you have only organized that in a much more civilized fashion.  Yet, for an emerging and maturing civilization and nation—or even community—this process of majority-making is very archaic.  It is far more interesting, but more challenging, to have a verbal jousting of meaningful topics that candidates—whether it is one person or a dozen people—that this is a process of, not debate, but of presentation of argument from one person’s position, and then finally honing the numbers down as those less capable fall out of this competition, and the most competent individual can lead their community forward.  This is simply just one example of many that could be drawn.  We are trying to help you rework the old molds of your thinking, so that you think in different ways for leading your communities, states and nation forward.

MONJORONSON:  You will be looking first at common interest.  When you look at position-taking, then you are going in the wrong direction immediately.  If you look at common interest and common vision, collective vision, those two factors will lead you into the future and you will devise your organizational systems, as you need to.  You, in fact, do not need political parties to elect competent individuals to office.  That is simply an old archaic method devised from arm wrestling, for instance, or from jousting, or from ring-tossing, as has been done in centuries and millennia before.  You see that this is an archaic process of selection.  It is very much like the old “tug-of-war,” where you have an incredibly strong rope with hundreds of people on each side, pulling in opposite directions, pulling in their direction, and so you pull people over to your side.  This is majority-making in its most primitive form, but you have only organized that in a much more civilized fashion.  Yet, for an emerging and maturing civilization and nation—or even community—this process of majority-making is very archaic.  It is far more interesting, but more challenging, to have a verbal jousting of meaningful topics that candidates—whether it is one person or a dozen people—that this is a process of, not debate, but of presentation of argument from one person’s position, and then finally honing the numbers down as those less capable fall out of this competition, and the most competent individual can lead their community forward.  This is simply just one example of many that could be drawn.  We are trying to help you rework the old molds of your thinking, so that you think in different ways for leading your communities, states and nation forward.

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===='''''[[Focus]]'''''====

*What is missing is a focusing element

*What is missing is a focusing element

Let me add, what is missing for most all of your social processes and institutions and organizations is a focusing element.  Your focusing element heretofore in centuries past has been survival.  Then once survival has been achieved you want to exist past the immediate day into the future and next year, and so forth, so that you can leave your progeny able to survive and exist.  Of recent decades, it has become the profit-motive for your nation; everything seems to be focused on money, focused on the bottom line, focused on profitability.  However, this is far too narrow a perspective and it helps those few people who are capable in this realm, and the vast majority is left behind.  In the future, you must take a much more egalitarian perspective on the issues you discuss.  We have offered you the discussion point, the focusing point, of social sustainability.  This will become a much more profitable focus for all social processes in the future.  This will provide a far more rational means for discussing how to lead a nation or a small community forward, and the commonality will be sustainability, not just existing from year-to-year, or a generation.  Societies must provide a learning process whereby a generation’s quality of life is improved from one generation to another.  This will be of great benefit to everyone.  The truths that you discover in a local, small town sustainability design team—let’s say in a small town in Missouri—would have the same applicability to a small town in Birmingham, England, or in Mumbai, or in Johannesburg.  The universalities of human beings are known, but they have not been used for political or social purposes for discussion [or] improvement of your societies.  It is time to do this.

Let me add, what is missing for most all of your social processes and institutions and organizations is a focusing element.  Your focusing element heretofore in centuries past has been survival.  Then once survival has been achieved you want to exist past the immediate day into the future and next year, and so forth, so that you can leave your progeny able to survive and exist.  Of recent decades, it has become the profit-motive for your nation; everything seems to be focused on money, focused on the bottom line, focused on profitability.  However, this is far too narrow a perspective and it helps those few people who are capable in this realm, and the vast majority is left behind.  In the future, you must take a much more egalitarian perspective on the issues you discuss.  We have offered you the discussion point, the focusing point, of social sustainability.  This will become a much more profitable focus for all social processes in the future.  This will provide a far more rational means for discussing how to lead a nation or a small community forward, and the commonality will be sustainability, not just existing from year-to-year, or a generation.  Societies must provide a learning process whereby a generation’s quality of life is improved from one generation to another.  This will be of great benefit to everyone.  The truths that you discover in a local, small town sustainability design team—let’s say in a small town in Missouri—would have the same applicability to a small town in Birmingham, England, or in Mumbai, or in Johannesburg.  The universalities of human beings are known, but they have not been used for political or social purposes for discussion [or] improvement of your societies.  It is time to do this.

   

   

We are using the events that are forthcoming in the world, the great difficulties that you will have as, not of a lesson, but as an opportunity for you to learn from.  Again, when these calamities come to your world, and they are already present, these were not brought to you by God.  They are simply outcomes and developments of a world that has too many people in it, that has difficulties supplying the necessities of life and survival.  Only those who understand the principles of sustainability will survive, and this will come to the attention of billions of people as they face the awesome fact of their survival at that time.

We are using the events that are forthcoming in the world, the great difficulties that you will have as, not of a lesson, but as an opportunity for you to learn from.  Again, when these calamities come to your world, and they are already present, these were not brought to you by God.  They are simply outcomes and developments of a world that has too many people in it, that has difficulties supplying the necessities of life and survival.  Only those who understand the principles of sustainability will survive, and this will come to the attention of billions of people as they face the awesome fact of their survival at that time.

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===='''''[[Sustainability]]'''''====

*When politics can become useful

*When politics can become useful

===='''''[[Morality]]'''''====

===='''''[[Morality]]'''''====

*Using the moral compass to evaluate policies

*Using the moral compass to evaluate policies

MMc:  Thank you. This question has a long lead-in.  Back in one of our past sessions, #34, you spoke of the “moral compass,” and the three core values as they operate in the schematic of sustainability saying,  “It will be most difficult to use in politics and political governance because there is so much position-taking within and among those groups.”  You then go on to say, “… it will also assist in the process of governance to show and demonstrate to legislators how the policies and laws they propose are position-taking, rather than interest-centered.”  Now, my question:  Can the moral compass be used to evaluate the policies of the various politicians and their parties, prior to an election?

MMc:  Thank you. This question has a long lead-in.  Back in one of our [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2011-11-25-Conversations_with_Monjoronson_34 past sessions, #34], you spoke of the “[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2011-11-25-Conversations_with_Monjoronson_34#Morality moral compass],” and the three core values as they operate in the schematic of sustainability saying,  “It will be most difficult to use in politics and political governance because there is so much position-taking within and among those groups.”  You then go on to say, “… it will also assist in the process of governance to show and demonstrate to legislators how the policies and laws they propose are position-taking, rather than interest-centered.”  Now, my question:  Can the moral compass be used to evaluate the policies of the various politicians and their parties, prior to an election?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  Yes, most certainly, and I do understand your questions and you present two factors there.  The schematic, which uses the three core values, is the moral compass:  It can be used to validate existing social policies; it can be used to validate the rhetoric, the position-taking of politicians, the candidates who are running for office.  But first, one important dynamic must be invoked, and that is there must be some ingenious politician, some risk-taking candidate, who is willing to completely reframe all political issues in terms of social sustainability.  If you take the sport lacrosse as a metaphor for political campaigning and discussion of issues, you can see how competitive and combative it is and how destructive it is to the participants, that in the end, there is a winner and there is a loser.  And if someone comes along and says, “Well, this is all very good, but why don’t we string a net across and give everybody a badminton racket and a birdie and let’s see how we do then?”  This is reframing competition.  

MONJORONSON:  Yes, most certainly, and I do understand your questions and you present two factors there.  The schematic, which uses the three core values, is the moral compass:  It can be used to validate existing social policies; it can be used to validate the rhetoric, the position-taking of politicians, the candidates who are running for office.  But first, one important dynamic must be invoked, and that is there must be some ingenious politician, some risk-taking candidate, who is willing to completely reframe all political issues in terms of social sustainability.  If you take the sport lacrosse as a metaphor for political campaigning and discussion of issues, you can see how competitive and combative it is and how destructive it is to the participants, that in the end, there is a winner and there is a loser.  And if someone comes along and says, “Well, this is all very good, but why don’t we string a net across and give everybody a badminton racket and a birdie and let’s see how we do then?”  This is reframing competition.  

   

   

MMc:  Well, first that politics is a wasteful thing.  It is position-taking, and as I’ve said, I’ve stayed far afield of it; I haven’t been a great political worker in trying to get my point across by taking positions and working within systems.  The second is that by utilizing a goal of sustainability, most of the position-taking of politics, all of the extras that benefit a few and do not benefit the majority become superficial.  The epiphany is that essentially, by focusing on the goal of sustainability, the vast majority of humankind is served.

MMc:  Well, first that politics is a wasteful thing.  It is position-taking, and as I’ve said, I’ve stayed far afield of it; I haven’t been a great political worker in trying to get my point across by taking positions and working within systems.  The second is that by utilizing a goal of sustainability, most of the position-taking of politics, all of the extras that benefit a few and do not benefit the majority become superficial.  The epiphany is that essentially, by focusing on the goal of sustainability, the vast majority of humankind is served.

===='''''[[Leadership]]'''''====

===='''''[[Leadership]]'''''====

*Three hopes of our mentors toward politics

*Three hopes of our mentors toward politics

   

   

What your world is all about is figuring out how to move ahead positively and constructively, making right decisions by individuals, choosing right courses of actions by organizations.  In the scheme of things this will develop and evolve.  It will become too costly to the process of survival and existence, let alone sustainability, to pursue processes which are so expensive in terms of waste of time and lack of direction, and that the demands for survival, existence and sustainability will become so high that individuals must use effective means to come to right answers that lead your communities and nations forward positively and constructively in times of intense difficulty.  It is very much the same system that is involved in the evolution of species that the life carriers bring to your world, that there is an initiation of a new species, a new variety, and that old varieties and species die away, and those who are more effective survive.  There are improvements in all of this, and where you learn, you will learn to survive and you will learn about sustainability.  The learning process will be most difficult, but you will learn, or you will die.  (Roxie:  Thank you.)  (Long pause.)

What your world is all about is figuring out how to move ahead positively and constructively, making right decisions by individuals, choosing right courses of actions by organizations.  In the scheme of things this will develop and evolve.  It will become too costly to the process of survival and existence, let alone sustainability, to pursue processes which are so expensive in terms of waste of time and lack of direction, and that the demands for survival, existence and sustainability will become so high that individuals must use effective means to come to right answers that lead your communities and nations forward positively and constructively in times of intense difficulty.  It is very much the same system that is involved in the evolution of species that the life carriers bring to your world, that there is an initiation of a new species, a new variety, and that old varieties and species die away, and those who are more effective survive.  There are improvements in all of this, and where you learn, you will learn to survive and you will learn about sustainability.  The learning process will be most difficult, but you will learn, or you will die.  (Roxie:  Thank you.)  (Long pause.)

This is Monjoronson.  My staff is signaling me that this would be a good time to take a break from our session and leave it as incomplete, and to allow listeners and readers to respond with questions, if they have any.  As this is an election year for this nation, we hope that it is highly productive in question asking, so that those who ask questions would receive insights about how to proceed.  Do you have any immediate questions that need to be answered at this time?

This is Monjoronson.  My staff is signaling me that this would be a good time to take a break from our session and leave it as incomplete, and to allow listeners and readers to respond with questions, if they have any.  As this is an election year for this nation, we hope that it is highly productive in question asking, so that those who ask questions would receive insights about how to proceed.  Do you have any immediate questions that need to be answered at this time?

   

   

   

   

Group:  Thank you very much!

Group:  Thank you very much!

===Note===

===Note===

Monjoronson obviously felt this topic was timely and very needed, as his delivery was very fast and deliberate, and he would relish further questions on this topic.  If you have any, please email them to Michael McCray:  momccray12349@gmail.com .  Thank you.]

Monjoronson obviously felt this topic was timely and very needed, as his delivery was very fast and deliberate, and he would relish further questions on this topic.  If you have any, please email them to Michael McCray:  momccray12348@gmail.com .  Thank you.]

The book Monjoronson referred to is:  

The book Monjoronson referred to is:  

:The Fifth Discipline, by Peter Senge, ISBN 0-385-26095-4

:''The Fifth Discipline'', by Peter Senge, ISBN 0-385-26095-4

   

   

From the front and back inside cover:  “In the long run, the only sustainable source of competitive advantage is your organization’s ability to learn faster than its competitors.  

From the front and back inside cover:  “In the long run, the only sustainable source of competitive advantage is your organization’s ability to learn faster than its competitors.  

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